Did Sweden, Finland and Estonia cover up what really happened to the MS Estonia?

#estonia #sweden #finland
9:53: final mayday call from the MS Estonia
The MS Estonia was a cruiseferry built in 1980 for the Finnish company Rederi Ab Sally by Meyer Werft, in Papenburg, West Germany. She was employed on ferry routes between Finland and Sweden by various companies (first Viking Line, then EffJohn) until 1993, when she was sold to Nordström & Thulin for use on Estline's Tallinn-Stockholm route. The ship's sinking on 28 September 1994, in the Baltic Sea between Sweden, Finland and Estonia, was one of the worst peacetime maritime disasters of the 20th century, claiming 852 lives, In this video I take a look at the conspiracy surrounding her sinking.
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[@oursisulife3930]

I've long been fascinated by the disaster. One of the most interesting things is to listen to the full audio recordings between the different vessels. Thank you for covering this story. You did a beautiful job!

[@IrishinFinland]

Thank you!

[@teijaflink2226]

Right I always seem to come back to it, I just can't stop thinking about what actually happened. Firstly what the passangers when through it seems like the worst terror I could ever imagined (I suppose it feels extra scary and close because I have travelled in similar ferries) and then of course what did actually happen and why all the secrets like why didn't they take up all the bodies, to get a better picture of what actually happened to them and because majority of people wanted their loved ones back home and bury them.

[@user-py8di4nm2t]

Holy sh** that mayday call always makes me so anxious and get goosebumps....

[@EugeakaEugene]

If interpol wanted, Avo Piht would be found. Also Sweden's suspicious lack of showing effort to investigate and avoidance to let relatives know more about what happened. This wasn't just a tragedy. Criminal activity was definitely involved in this

[@helenike132]

I completely agree. Unfortunately we still have more answers unanswered than answered.

[@jjansgi]

Correct. He would be found inside the wreck.

[@nima9340]

As a Swede I cannot begin to describe how deeply this disaster hit our country. (And tbh I'm quite dissapointed how little it is covered outside of the affected countries, few modern sinkings can really compare.) For example; I was 7 years old when this happened. Two major things happened that year. One was the sinking of Estonia. The other was the worst (and probably only) mass shooting in the history of Sweden. One of those things happened in my hometown, while I was sleeping in my bed 10 minutes away. I have no memory of this. I do, however, remember the look on my mothers face when she told me about Estonia. I remember going to school that day and everyone crying. I remember trying to grasp with my childish mind how so many people could die in such a short time. I remember it like the trauma it was, despite not even knowing anyone aboard. I've seen many tragedies in my life. I've seen the tsunami. I've seen the world trade center. And I've seen wars and ethnic cleanings. And although they are obviously far worse, nothing has stuck with me like this memory. Because for a 7 year old little girl seeing your whole country this traumatized... It sticks. And I hope that one day the truth will come out and the victims will get peace. Because the memory of realizing that your government that you fully trusted were lying about this the whole time. The memory of loosing that trust. That memory is almost just as horrible.

[@lukalaa1764]

The presentation was excellent with this, hats off to you. Hopefully, in the future, a better picture is made of what occured.

[@IrishinFinland]

Thank you very much, because it is public knowledge that twice it was used to transport military hardware I just think that we will never know really the full picture

[@no_one01-5]

Couldn't agree more!

[@mikkorenvall428]

Western media/propaganda is always making Russia the bad guy. However the German reporters found out that a swedish submarine was damaged almost beyond reparation and was taken to a salvage dock just 2 weeks after the incident and was under reparation for atleast 3 months. Makes me wonder if the heavy seas supriced the swedish submarine in watch as Estonia dig deeper into waves than normal and therefore caused a collasion...? Sweden has only confirmed the docking but nothing about the damage or the cause that made them.

[@no_one01-5]

Without even seeing this video in full, I already know the story and it is endlessly interesting. So happy that you covered it!

[@samityppi]

- in 1990-1991, Estonia went by the name Silja Star, where my father worked - Silja Star drove "too hard" in the waves, the bow gate was damaged and water flooded the car deck "almost up to the knees" - the ship had to be repaired at the shipyard for about a month, my father also got extra paid leave - note that this happened 3-4 years before the sinking of the ship in question! - at that time, the staff often passed through the car deck, so everyone knew about it - documents, interviews, experts claim that there was never a fault/problem with the bow gate before - most parties claim that in 1994, this bow port thing came as a complete surprise - it is 100% certain that Silja Star's temporary removal of traffic and the repair of the bow gate is documented - are there similar documents already from the time of Viking Sally (same ship), I don't know, since it hasn't been clarified - enormous resources have been used to search for the fault and the cause, even though the matter has been known to everyone - many high-level people have presented even wild theories as to the cause of the sinking - is it not really understood that the same, known fault, has been repeated several times? - The staff of Silja Star was never interviewed, neither before nor after the disaster in Estonia - the ship sailed as Viking Sally from 1980-90, the staff were never interviewed, to find out the origin of the leak - An interview with Sally's people would have either solved the matter, or moved the investigation in the direction of Silja Star's staff - neither of the above happened - every worker could have told if there was water on deck or not, and if so, how often/how much - 1 public figure has voluntarily told, while working on Sally, that there were problems with the bow gate

[@jerkku5362]

Wasaline oli kuleemma tehny alustavia suunnitelmia keulaportin parantamisesta mutta virolaiset ei ollu kiinnostuneita ja sen kyllä voi uskoa. Sehän on vanha neuvostoliittolainen tapa niin kauan käytetään ku joten kuten toimii. Siis aluksen miehistöhän oli pääasiassa neuvostoajan kasvatteja ja on sitä aikaa marginaalisesti vielä tallinkillakin jos matkustaa viron lipun alla liikkuvilla aluksilla niin huomaa kyllä henkilökunnasta että palkka on joko paskaa tai sitte vituttaa muuten vaan ja tämä johtaa huonoon asiakaspalveluun. Siksi en tallinkin laivalta osta ikinä mitään vaan vasta maissa. Toki olen saanu paskaa asiakaspalvelua viking linellakin.

[@danielandersson1139]

There were many instsnces of bow visor failures in the 80s and 90s, including on Diana II in 1993.(her visor+ramp configuration was exactly the same as Estonia/Viking Sally.) These are documented in the JAIC report and also in the Meyer Werft report(usually calked GGE report) There is no cover up and no reason to doubt the official finding of the cause of the accident. The theories about submarines and bombs are ludicrous and unrealistic. What I would change in the official report is the blame, which should be on 1. RAB Sally and Estline, for ordering and purchasing a vessel they knew did not fulfill SOLAS rules. Estline also neglected repairs and did not promote the right safety culture 2. The Finnish and Estonian authorities for certifying the ship when it did not fulfill the criteria 3 Meyer Werft for building a vessel without the required collision bulkhead.

[@leatammiste5386]

The memory of the disaster still brings tears to my eyes. I vividly recall the day after when a heavy, painful silence was everywhere. People were glued to their TV screens, hoping to find their loved ones' names on the "survivors" list.

[@Silveirias]

Wonderfully presented. I don't think I've seen a video in English before that discusses the conspiracy theories as well. I hope the new investigations manage to be more transparent and bring us a conclusion that the survivors and the family members can accept as truthful. Even though I don't believe in conspiracy theories, I do find them interesting. I think the original investigation and government reactions only fulled them. Like not wanting to do any recovery, trying to cover the ship in concrete, preventing any divings, and not admitting to the weapons trasportation until ten years later. And then the new discovery of a hole on the hull. No wonder people don't trust the original accident report.

[@teijaflink2226]

Even if the official report actually makes sence, to me at least but it's really difficult to actually trust it because of all the other weird things.

[@LawrenceMclean]

The expression: "conspiracy theory", is very often used as a slur, in order to discredit truth that must be derived.

[@magnusforsman9150]

M/S Estonias sinking is a tragedy, but why is simple! The receipt is the combination of RoRo ships open cargo decks, free surface effect, sloppy fixation of bigger vehicles on car deck and a old ferry ship driven way to hard in that extreme weather. I was awakened that night in central Stockholm because of the hard wind and rain battering my windows on second floor as never before and never after that night.

[@Anttimation]

Excellent video and narration! I think there's some new series of this in the works...?

[@ilkkak3065]

All this never ending speculation is cause JAIC was too subtle towards the Estonian shipping company. It's in the final raport but they didn't point it out. Ship should have been send to repair dock for visir and ramp repairs long time before sinking. They had had problems with the visor and ramp locks and watertightness long before the sinking.

[@henriikkak2091]

That's what I think too. It was just such a shock and an embarrassment that negligence was the cause. The ship went down so quickly that most people didn't have a chance.

[@teijaflink2226]

Shouldn't the ship company actually been charged for the negligence?

[@Sinivaal]

Only 10% of Estline was owned by Estonia .

[@Glen-mk7ks]

What bothers me most is that the bodies weren't recovered. Especially when it's in diving depths for a recovery ! I wish they would just raise it ! Been following this for years and always looking for new info when I return here to see or read new videos.

[@hubertushubertus6544]

A deep Hole or crack discovered by Henrik Evertsson in 2020 is exactly same place which was calculated by a group of ship engineers led by shipbuilder Anders Björkman almost 28 years ago. björkman said "there must be a hole on rigt side under the water line " near sauna and swimmingpool area . anders björkman was absolutely right. 27 years ago without seeing any hole just by calculating only !!!

[@melissastory1993]

Exactly! I trust the engineers more. I used to work for an engineering firm and even without the software, I’d still put a lot of trust in their calculations, but with the software I trust it even more. I trust the engineer that calculated the force needed to create that damage, because I also trust that they wouldn’t have had someone else fact check that before putting it in the documentary.

[@hubertushubertus6544]

@@melissastory1993 true is somewhere and existed against all lies !!!!

[@matthieupasquier9594]

Chocking and sad story, thanks for sharing

[@Larzang]

It's been 29 years now... I was only 5 years old, and in daycare at the time. But I do still vaguely remember this, somehow. Took me a little while to get over my fear of cruise ships, after that.

[@MultiMediaEmperor]

m/s Estonia was a RoRo* (*Roll On Roll Off) ferry with at least a main car deck for vehicles whereas cruise ships are only for passengers... it is of significant importance to be able to distinguish between these two types...

[@user-qn9tm8yp5b]

same. the name of the ship itself has an ominous angsty vibe to it ever since I first heard of it as a little kid

[@GinnyBerch]

I would love this kind of content on Spotify, so I could listen to it on my walks and runs.

[@-Agis-]

Thanks, very interesting!

[@IrishinFinland]

Wow! Thank you very much! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Mmmmmmm120q8]

Definitely a cover-up... either it was sank by accident or on purpose, we will never know but I hope the truth will be told some day. Just too many official answers missing.

[@jjansgi]

We already know. Read the report and see the pictures of the investigation.

[@jerkku5362]

Minä en mihinkään salaliittoihin usko mutta tutkimukset kyllä tehtiin ihan päin helvettiä.

[@jjansgi]

@@jerkku5362 Jos ei lasketa sitä, että hylky olisi pitänyt nostaa tutkimuksia varten, niin perustele miten ne tehtiin "päin helvettiä".

[@jerkku5362]

​@@jjansgimitä helvettiä poistaako youtube linkkejä. Linkkasin tähän ylen uutisartikkelin jossa ruotsalainen tutkijalautakunnan jäsen johan franson myöntää tutkinnan puutteellisuuden. Voin kopioida sen tekstin uutena vastauksena

[@jerkku5362]

​@@jjansgiViranomainen myöntää Estonia-tutkimusten puutteellisuuden Johtaja Johan Fransson Ruotsin merenkulun tarkastuslaitoksesta myöntää puutteellisiksi sukeltajien tutkimukset Estonian hylyssä pian laivan uppoamisen jälkeen. 27.5.2007 9:09•Päivitetty 30.10.2008 19:59 Avaa Yle-sovelluksessa Jaa Sukelluksista tuolloin vastannut Fransson sanoi Ruotsin radion haastattelussa, että sukeltajien toimeksianto oli suppea: piti tutkia vain, ovatko laiva ja uhrit nostettavissa sekä vahvistaa kansainvälisen tutkijalautakunnan teoria uppoamisen syystä. Jos silloin olisi esitetty kaikki ne kysymykset joita nyt on ilmassa, tutkimukset olisi Franssonin mukaan tehty tarkemmin. Ruotsin hallituksen tilaamassa uusimmassa Estonia-tutkimuksessa selvitetään yhdeksää eri teoriaa onnettomuuden syystä. Tutkijoita askarruttaa erityisesti, miksi alus upposi niin nopeasti.

[@artsuomi]

Remember that horror. Let me throw some conspiracy. A colleague of my mother was saved from the catastrophe. She said (which also might be just a rumour) that she saw how the captain was running away at the start. It's unfortunate happening. Very mysterious and “undiscoverable”. A few days later, a Russian submarine was in some docks with renovations after collision with something.

[@mikkorenvall428]

German reporters say it was swedish submarine renovated in salvage dock. Would make things more logical... and why Sweden is so secretative about things. It's kind of catastrophy swedish sub killing swedish citizens... IF that is the way.

[@dwightschrute2822]

There is literally footage of Avo Piht alive day after the accident. They're scrubbing the internet from time to time, but videos can be found on youtube right now.

[@dwightschrute2822]

He was reported to be alive and in a hospital in Finland, and then went missing. INTERPOL was issued an international warrant to find him by the government of Estonia but nothing ever came of it. It was later changed, so that he was "reported dead all along and the rumours were part of a misunderstanding"

[@karihamalainen9622]

I was going to work , 120 km drive , early on the morning when I heard insident. Very interesting torpedohit in that weather. And Vikings very new ship has similar damage but that forward ramp does not drop away. All ships that area in that storm get some damage. I do not know truth but torpedo in that water is very interesting issue.

[@themarqq]

Case of captain Piht. All started from small Estonian news paper what told he was alive. Lot of bigger media outlets share this same info but shortly removed it because it turned out to be false. This is how consipiracy theory starts. I did my study years ago and this is what i found. The story goes that Piht was brought to Utö with the first survivors. That can't be true because the first rescued people were transported to car ferries, of which there were already several. Wikipedia also says that "the information was confirmed by a Swedish helicopter pilot." It is the Swedish Navy's helicopter Y-64 and its surface rescuer Kenneth Svensson. According to him, he has never recognized Pihti and the claim in question is the reason for early and hasty press reports. That's how the legend began to live. According to another website, Piht's wife had received "official information" from the Swedish authorities that, "Avo Piht was taken aboard the rescue helicopter Q97 on the night of September 28, and was delivered in full strength at 4:20 a.m. to Finland to the island of Utö." According to the carefully documented accident report, the Swedish Super Puma helicopter Q 97 took off from Visby, Gotland at 2:50 a.m. and arrived one hour later, i.e. at 3:50 a.m., at the accident site, picked up 6 people (none of them was Avo Piht) from two overturned lifeboats and flew them to Utö, where the helicopter arrived at 5:00 a.m. . In this case, the timestamps do not match.

[@dmitritelvanni4068]

I think I know what happened. They tried to make a stop in Finland, not realizing that it's just a myth and sailed off the edge of the world.

[@elinaerni328]

Listening to this SOS call on the radio, comes the impression that navigation in the mid-90s was at stone age levels - why couldn’t other large ships see such a large ship as Estonia on their radar? Or is the whole point that the power on the Estonia already turned off and along with it the positioning transmitter stopped working?

[@Tuppoo94]

The idea that the supposedly air-filled sections of Estonia below the car deck would've been enough to keep the 15000-tonne ship afloat is preposterous. The ship was upside down, many cabin windows had been broken by the waves, and water was rushing in through the open car deck ramp. Estonia sank stern first, like an upright glass being placed into a deep kitchen sink full of water. I do agree that the investigative authorities handled communications poorly, which lead to the disaster becoming a hotbed of conspiracy theories.

[@xtroncool007]

Scary

[@albertlaane8667]

interesting is that they didint know what happened, surley they haved seead that bow viser come off, but when the list was 20 30 degree the still didint know what happened. so the visire was on

[@dianachack8779]

I believe it. It's long been a topic of contention with the government's/families.

[@sonjaristolainen5116]

I was 9 years old, when M/S Estonia sank.

[@Pappa_66]

Thanks again mate👍Great job❤

[@IrishinFinland]

Cheers Jari!

[@Pappa_66]

By The way, did you see Sisu?

[@f_lxxxiiltd974]

Quite simply... Yes

[@Daness74]

30 years left and the ferry still lies down there in relative shallow water ..... !! We more onto the Titanic, than on her side ... !! Shame to estn government ☝️🤬😢🙏🤞🍀☮️

[@duurnamets9678]

I never believed that the sinking of the Estonia i was a normal accident. Its a coverup for shure.

[@valentinesmith2424]

The ship hit something. They know the truth. Cover it up.

[@dennislindqvist8443]

Conspiracy theories are usually disproven in almost all cases. If there was a cover-up, the truth would most likely have leaked out by now. Investigating the accident was expensive and complicated, but the technology is better today.

[@KiwiSentinel]

it has.

[@tomasfinkelman]

1:27 I this movie the carramp is open not so in reality closed and loked for years until some one removed it down there No one was suposed to be down there

[@arnold9861]

Always wondered why they covered the wreck with concrete. Covering a different reason for the disaster could be case?

[@masterticcu]

It isn't covered in anything.

[@arnold9861]

@@masterticcu They tried to! But it dlided on the side ( where the strange cracks are)

[@Kallogee]

Maybe there was something radioactive aboard?

[@teijaflink2226]

I think the official version of the accident is actually the true story, it's what makes mostly sence to me, like as example I don't think a u-boat would have managed to sink such a huge ferry. But I definitely think it's possible there where some skummy things happening on Estonia too, like smuggling of military equipment.

[@fredd3.14]

Yeah you're right most likely. There is no conspiracy here, interesting as it may be. Just understaffed sailors, lack of urgency and communication break down etc.. Plainly Difficult on youtube made a very in-depth video explaining and confirming the official story, also elaborating on other factors usually left out to create more mystery.

[@mastermarv722]

I mean yeah it is likely. But why did the swedish government try to cover it in concrete?

[@gourmetbacon5750]

@@mastermarv722Because they didn't want people diving down to an easily available mass grave

[@Swiftie_Julia]

That hole can just be the visor hitting the side

[@melissastory1993]

Not with the amount of force needed. The bow visor was too light

[@georgevavoulis4758]

This reminds me of TWA 747 that blew up over Long Island the authorities said it was a wire arching in fuel tank and causing fuel vapor to explode . Years later investigators want it reopen as there is truth to witneses on the ground and in the air of missiles launched hitting the plane

[@Rayman1971]

Whoever is calling the mayday sounds untrained. I understand the chaos happening, but he could have been a bit more together, IMO....

[@Sinivaal]

Untrained? There are around 900 lives onboard and the ship is going down fast with you at a steep angle. With all that your comment sounds arrogant