Ironman Penalty Report. 4 riders get docked and one gets away with something 👀 Pro Motocross 2022

[@georgeescaped6035]

new penalty- stop at the finish line chug a beer and continue along

[@klaus5686]

^this guy gets it.

[@JohnnyGlad96]

I’m an ET3 fan, but I’m still going to be objective. Sexton should not be penalized as he didn’t gain any time, he actually lost 3 hundredths of a second. He did the right thing. It was the right call. End of story.

[@jameswarren2894]

Agreed!

[@dougdickason]

Good on you for not being biased, and it was the right call, the spirit of the rule was applied correctly.

[@ibelieve96]

He did gain time that was faster then going all the way around and he pulled right up on Tomac

[@JohnnyGlad96]

@@ibelieve96 he was already gaining on Tomac in that part of the race. Hitting his preferred line around the tree would have been faster than making a mistake and having to pause before accelerating again. Sexton has perfect technique and his corner speed is absurd

[@gregstevens527]

The problem is Sexton screwed up lost only 3 hundredths instead of multiple seconds. I'm not a fan of either, but not penalizing him there is rewarding him.

[@mattkenyon3588]

The real issue for me is that, yes he only lost three one hundredths of a second; however, translate that same mistake to a different section of the track and it could have easily cost him a lot more. In essence he skipped an entire obstacle where he easily could have naturally lost more than that just based on how clean both of them get through the turn. The absence of a response by the AMA in this case is a political one, I’d argue that if it was anyone else besides Sexton or Tomac, they would’ve been docked points. I think most people would be more indifferent if Sexton would have backed it down a bit to make sure he didn’t gain time but he was immediately on the gas

[@antiwoke884]

Very well said and I would agree with everything you mentioned

[@MXReference]

Thanks for the shoutout! Anderson’s instagram post was hilarious 😂

[@loneventhorizon]

Dude thanks for doing the work to put this stuff into perspective. Most of us are to busy with life to find the time to dive deeper to clarify the finer points. Pun intended

[@s2_cool756]

Seems like the right call. No advantage gained, re entry would have been dangerous. Isn’t the rule there to discourage corner cutting aka cheating? Pretty sure it isn’t there to penalize rider errors that don’t result in a clear advantage in the race.

[@perrykamieniecki8810]

They should have given Chase an extra point for that turn before the tree and not getting caught up in the banner.👍

[@lilt739]

Very exquisite maneuvering indeed!

[@jakeowens1770]

Beeach please

[@bjs001001]

I agree with your breakdown. As much as I think it should have been a penalty, I believe you are right. Sometimes a little discretion has to be applied. In the end he ended up where he would have been. Plus I think he lost a little time in that cut. Either way, Sexton and Tomac are head and shoulders above the rest of the field this season and it will make for a great final.

[@crankshaft4120]

Recently discovered your videos and I'm really enjoying them!

[@HillBilly1905]

I’m a Eli Tomac fan and I believe chase doesn’t deserve anything. It didn’t make time up on Tomac

[@marmaleg5309]

@@CaddyJim and he was on the gas the whole off track section. Just like Anderson, just a shorter off track section.

[@NeoMK]

@1:58 you can clearly see the flag waving and lights flashing. A bit late?

[@noControl556]

It's offroad racing, every rule regarding going off the track has to be enforced with some descension and common sense.

[@MxViking_109]

What about in the second moto when chase jumped on yellow when battling with Eli? I thought on yellow was no jumping too or was that just in supercross?

[@RotoMoto]

Nope, you can jump on yellow even in SX. Red cross flags are WoG in SX.

[@marcspencer800]

Yea but he didn’t loose any time either so he did gain an advantage because he made a big mistake without loosing any time

[@loneventhorizon]

He did loose time

[@SYNCROORG]

You're making shit up with this new rule of yours that you must lose time or get penalized.

[@marcspencer800]

@@SYNCROORG I didn’t say he should get penalized. I think things would of been handled differently by the ama had he won the moto.. I was just saying to say he didn’t gain an advantage how he re entered the track would be crazy.. he made a huge mistake and lost less than 1/2 a second.. had he made that mistake somewhere else where he couldn’t of cut down below the tree it would of cost him more time.. so cutting the corner definitely benefited his situation but like I said I don’t think he should of been punished for it but saying he didn’t benefit from cutting the corner would be stretching it

[@hlrembe62]

In Sexton's case, this was a common sense decision by officiating. He clearly cut the course, yes, but he clearly just avoided the tree after getting out of sorts in the ruts heading up to the turn, and gained absolutely no advantage. If anything it for a few moments cost him momentum and impeded his charge. For full disclosure I am about 55% rooting for Tomac to win out but really 100% enjoying this two man race at the front and hate seeing the season end.

[@Trashguy74]

No sexton should not be penalized. I thought they changed the rule where you do not have to reenter where you went out of bounds. As long as you don't gain an advantage You are good.

[@smauller623]

Pretty sure cutting inside the track in 2nd 1pt behind 1st whose a points leader is a pretty big gain regardless.

[@diggs7252]

Exactly

[@L8vertex]

@@smauller623 not when he didn’t gain any time😂

[@scott729]

@@smauller623 go watch Kellen's video (Ryder X). He actually lost time

[@coldsteeloffroad]

Anyone else happen to see El Hombre's booger? 3:30 😂

[@imtheonevanhalen1557]

By this call, breaking ANY quick go around is fair game...let's go guys, make the track up for yourselves!! Way to go AMA, as usual

[@teribennett5619]

I feel it was a fair call for the tree maneuver, however, what if the tree had hay bail not allowing such an easy go around, how would the race have ended?

[@loneventhorizon]

Exactly. It is what it is.

[@scott729]

I hate Godzilla too! (Hangover ref), damn that thing is steep. We went out on the track afterwards and it is damn near vertical. I don't think you could climb it from a dead stop without looping. Scary ass jump and I am surprised no one has had any bad crashes there coming down from misjudging it and getting overwhelming wheel chatter.

[@Oats57]

If Chase wins the championship by one point, there’s gonna be a huge controversy that the AMA doesn’t want. They should have penalized him one point regardless if it was done intentionally or not.

[@talonsaloga2789]

Agreed!

[@Suckitupbuttercup407]

One point or the tie. I think it’s stupid and chase shouldn’t be penalized but that’s gonna be interesting🤘🏼 eli would win with the tie so a 1 point lead or a tie would give eli the title of the would have

[@fizzlefox1829]

Ya’ll idiots. You think Tomac wants to win the a championship because of an asterisk? Tomac still won the moto so it didn’t even matter.

[@hovva5842]

This is the most ignorant, misguided comment I have read in awhile. “Just cause”. Seriously?

[@mikeandrews1899]

I think chase followed the rules 🤔 if you exit the track , re-enter the first , safest way possible .... Without gaining any time . ⚖️. A rider leaving the course may continue the race by properly re-entering the track at the closest safe point to where the rider left the course without gaining an advantage.

[@trevorrau4165]

I agree with their call to not penalize sexton here. I think that's one of quite a few infractions that has to be looked at on a case to case basis and then the rider will be penalized accordingly, or maybe not penalized at all. For example had sexton gained say 1.2 seconds by cutting the track and then gone on to win the moto by only .5 seconds I'd say the fair thing would be to dock sexton the position. I'll tell you one thing that I know for sure, whoever has to actually make those calls has a tough job, a really tough job.

[@CH2NEAT]

Chase should have been penalized for the cutting track incident, since he did not even look to make sure he was safely reentering the track. On top of the wheels on the ground flag that chase flew through and aired out the ski jump.

[@CoreyBanks1]

Chase shouldn’t have and glad he didn’t. Not his fault. He didn’t gain anything. Sounds like your just a tomac or nothing kind of guy

[@dholiday9315]

They applied other penalties without this much definitive reasoning behind them…so it’s clear they just didn’t want to be the guys that cost him the ship or gave someone the ship. If chase wins it all, yes the story will be brought to you by the AMA for not applying penalties equally. lol

[@jamesadams2334]

@@CoreyBanks1 No, sounds to me like he's a follow the rules kind of guy. The AMA is afraid of Honda.

[@edwardvanwormer6993]

I think the AMA finally got one right. No penalty needed. And I'm a Tomac fan. lol

[@raymondsiewert2720]

We need well trained flaggers at these races ! Period ! Did you see the flagger in the Sexton incident at the top of the hairpin tree turn ? He is pointing the wrong way, staring into space like he is daydreaming and never even moved as Sexton had his excursion through the banners right in front of him ! This untrained flaggers problem is real and is never really addressed. 😧🤔

[@nicklazar6869]

Exactly he should be on the otherside to flag the guys who go down in the corner wtf

[@waynehearst317]

not gonna lie, first thing I did was check your shirt for cat hair. lol. Once you have seen, you can't unseen my guy! Good video though, I like your work.

[@RotoMoto]

Honesty Wayne I think it says a lot more about you squinting for fur ton a moto video han me loving my animals from time to time 😅 Appreciate the kind words though 🙏

[@waynehearst317]

@@RotoMoto what has been seen can not be unseen, a life lesson.

[@x2Dubz]

In the Cooper/Hunter situation I dont fault them for not checking up, the flagger is standing in the wrong position (should be standing before the corner) and they took the outside line and couldn't see it. Jo was in the inside line and was face-to-face with the flag so he had the chance to check up

[@enacku]

They had the red light flashing on the outside of the track on that corner, you missed that one too?

[@tzon6802]

They have red and white lights flashing right in front of their face b.s. On the inside and the outside

[@ianmaynard8204]

If Sexton was docked the time estimated for his off track excursion he was still in second. Tomac and sexton are gapping the field HUGE.

[@thisisben3593]

I don't believe there should be a bias just because there's a championship fight. . . So riders can get away with corner cutting just because they're in a title fight but someone else would get penalized because they aren't?? That's wrong

[@RotoMoto]

Same logic applies to aggressive passes. Somehow if it’s for the win everyone looks the other way 👀

[@believe8263]

Chase doesn't deserve a penalty but they should have penalized Barcia for Chase cutting the track just because.

[@guyonthecouch136]

Hahaha great idea

[@tzon6802]

Barcia could use his same response as always "WhaAaaAAt?!?! I DiDnt Do AnYtHinG" lol

[@Thekindclub1]

Penalize!!! Consistency is a must! 1 point or 3 doesn’t change the narrative much

[@ZacAttackManiac]

He made the track shorter... period!

[@charleshicks7598]

Needs to be a rule that you raise your throttle hand in the air for one second before you re-enter the track.

[@MrHarmonizr]

The only thing I though looked bad about him getting right back on the track was he passed the lapper, so he clearly gained position on the track.

[@shilde]

Watch it again. He didn’t pass anybody with that cut. He came out behind all of them.

[@MrHarmonizr]

@@shilde watch 4:39 to 5:00 I think you need to watch again too, the lapper as mid corner when chase went off track, then after Chase reentered he was right next to him and made the pass immediately. No doubt the lapper was slowing down but it dosent change the advantage of the "track cut".

[@agp7073]

Bottom line? AMA’s decision isn’t consistent and should have taken 1 point away from Chase

[@victormesa4796]

he should have docked a point for cutting the track thats the rule if your not gonna follow the rules why have them i dont if he came in second

[@Tmogangsta714]

Hunter and Cooper penalty was stupid no one was on race track

[@avzeolla3960]

A filthy Phil Jersey?? What??

[@gotoleo7536]

It don’t matter!! Sexton has the advantage there racing again!!! At sextons practice track Eli 3 needs his race of the year to win

[@merdith6]

He should lose one point

[@UnBr3aKaB1e88]

I think Sexton was on the gas too much and didn’t “coast” like he said he did. Think of the time he would have lost if he had to renter there and for him to not lose much of any time I don’t think that it was a good call. Any other rider would have been penalized.

[@Shipman37x]

Considering the amount of money you would make over 1 or 2 points I can understand a little bit pushing dispute but.... If I have won 3x already, It would be a little lame to pout just get 1 point sinse he didnt win the moto anyway. Its bad ass that they are this close in the championship

[@yamahakid450f]

That one point could be worth over a million dollar bonus for a title after Saturday... yeah, that ain't worth pouting about. Neither is becoming sole owner of second all time in 450 outdoor titles behind ricky and 1 ahead of Dungey who's second in both wins and tied with 2nd in titles with Eli. All that is worth it, especially if the AMA isn't being consistent and picking and choosing. If it were you in that position, I guarntee you wouldn't hold the same opinion, but it isn't so it's easy to say you wouldn't care... or pout, as you put it.

[@andreww2924]

"next safe entry" not "return to point of exit" How can there be any debate, with no time gained?

[@jonruger]

Sexton literally followed the rules to a T and the AMA does not want to be the reason a championship was decided people need to let it go. The AMA is damned if they do or damned if they don’t when it comes to this shit.

[@jpmorgen5726]

Part of racing is not making mistakes, because mistakes hurt your performance, but Sexton''s mistake did not hurt his lap time/performance...in the end probably didn't make any difference to the results, so fair non call.

[@defconone681]

You can't tell me a pro rider (sexton) couldn't have just put his foot down and spun the bike around safely next to that tree, my opinion he gained and should have lost the point he gained, it would be diff at a faster pace but he came almost to a stop next to the tree, just my 2 cents anyway.

[@mikestrophytruck]

I think if Chase would've won the race it would definitely been an issue I think the call was OK

[@weelgunny]

No.

[@Tmogangsta714]

Sexton had no choice couldn't back up and fall down hill

[@jamesadams2334]

But he could have let off the gas. If he had gone around the tree it would have taken more time than his cutting the course.

[@2-Stroke-Smoke]

Good call for Chase. Safest and most logical course of action is exactly what he did.

[@enlightenedidiot9552]

Doesn't matter.. Eli went 1-1 yesterday. CHAMPION!

[@expendable0youth]

regardless of time gained/lost, chase still cut an ENTIRE corner

[@scotthouston551]

Okay so maybe I'm just being an ass but if sexton never let off the gas should he not get the same penalty as Anderson

[@teddy_bear7191]

I this case, Should been a FULL STOP!! Not a turn around. Full Stop loses momentum and a restart cost some time. He did cut track! That would be safest scenario. No Penalty execpt some loss of time!

[@chrisstark2813]

You have to have content to make a clear decision on cutting track rules. Non penalty was the right choice.

[@dakotaboysfilms_]

Go to Kevin moranz KZbin and you can see on his latest vlog at iron man Jason Anderson off the track and hauling and passing multiple people

[@dougbarfoot5309]

Rules are rules. They should be inforced with total consistency. No matter the final outcome of the race. He cut the corse and passes the lapper and lost nothing.

[@dekancaine]

Why he didn’t gain anything or go hard off the track

[@toddgaskill8389]

I don’t think Chase should have been penalized. It’s not intentional, and he made effort to not advance while off track.

[@RydenAround]

No gain, safer, no penalty

[@williamchelednik445]

Rules are rules and should be the followed exactly how its written. There should never be any selective actions decided, then what the rules states. Otherwise, what's the point then of having rules if the governing body is gonna be selective to who they decide that rule applies to. That just takes away from the sport and everyone that is a part of the sport. Manufacturers, teams, riders, sponsors, fans, etc are affected when the AMA didn't enforce their rules. It doesn't matter if it's a close championship or not. If he broke the rule and didn't do what he needed to do, then no question he should of gotten whatever penalty that comes with.

[@Erick-di9gm]

Chase took a short cut and still got beat!

[@markfosty1619]

It didnt change the outcome of the race and he did not do it intentionally or gain time. So not an issue

[@jamesadams2334]

Chase did not let off when he cut the track. Did he pass anyone, no. Did he gain time on Tomac more than if he was going around the tree, yes. There should have been a penalty but then again, you know the AMA doesn't penalize Honda. The AMA loves Honda. Why do you think everyone is on four strokes? I am a fairness fan. Either follow the rules for everybody or don't have rules. Simple.

[@gregstevens527]

Chase should have absolutely ben penalized! He made a major mistake entering a corner which should have resulted in a 5+ second gap between the riders after that segment. He took the easy way out, and ended up only losing .03 seconds. He did the right thing cutting across the banners, and if he had stopped for a couple of seconds I'd say they could have let it slide....but how can you not penalize a guy for making a major mistake and not seeing a time penalty on the track for it???

[@guyonthecouch136]

I want Eli to win.. I don't think Chase needed to be penalized.. I don't want a championship decided by penalties unless it was clear that Chase was trying to make up ground by cutting corners which in this case it wasn't

[@m3hsid10]

No penalty is the correct call. Chase obviously made a mistake and was still recovering from it by the time he came to the tree. There was no other safe option for getting back on the track plus he lost a few hundredths of time on Tomac.

[@BRField]

Sexton being docked 2 point is moot and a non-issue. ET03 would have a 3 point lead, which make no difference heading into last round. Sexton has to win both motos. Tomac only one, if the other rider is second.

[@fullachit]

No point deduction for Sexton deserved.

[@Fattyturdis]

That's not a penalty, he didn't go intentionally, he didn't gain an advantage, he lost a bunch of ground.

[@kelliebrooks9094]

Sadly that flag is not where they can see it or are looking..that flagman is not in a really good spot...hes after the entrance an after the mid point hes waving it at the exit....where they have already nailed the berm pinned thexthrottle an are gonna click one more gear to clear that big jump ur talking about...i flagged ama supercross for 10 years an did safety some times u have no place where u can stand to wave a flag an have it be in time or even get noticed ...the other trouble is its what kind flag wheels on the ground they didnt see it an it in a low visibilty spot if they did see it in 2 or 3 secinds they have to nit jump the jump...in a lot of racing guys dont react ti waving yellows at all what u want them to not jump a big jump in the middle of a battle with 3 laps to go..its hard if u stand on the face of the jump theres no way to watn or slow them down there pinned an jumping....past the mid point of that turn ur not gonna warned them effectively...oh yeah the guy being lapped saw the flag big deal that dont count....it not petfect science flagging.....some turns are right after a jump into tje turn an setting up for a jump out u cant flag them its almost impossible

[@rvrbarnacle79]

He definitely cut track 100% fact not sure if he should be penalized or not would have to read rule books.

[@bjs001001]

They obviously want to keep the race for the championship as close as possible. It's sad, but today, its all about the money, not fairness.

[@Jordan-qv3py]

There a difference if he “messes up” multiple times, this looks like a genuine racing accident and really did not gain any time on ET3, good looks on not penalizing Sexton on this, would not have been a fair call IMO

[@Nanerdeath]

you dont ever turn around on a track. Thats like the biggest no no in racing. he lost time, not much but still lost time this is a non issue in my eyes even if he beat tomac.

[@micahhook3576]

Crazy they both lost two points when you cant even see the flagger around thr corner. Like theyre both about to jump over a mountain

[@abracing199]

flashing light clearly in their line of sight.

[@jamesadams2334]

I agree. If you are going to penalize them then put the flags where they can see them. They were concentrating on railing the outside, under hard throttle and at speed and the flag was 20' to their right on the inside and out of sight.

[@tzon6802]

@@jamesadams2334 Dudes are you fkn blind? There's red and white LED displays on the inside AND the outside of the track exiting the corner. Its literally flashing right in their faces

[@martinreagan5083]

He didnt make a pass or move up in position mad magazine guy chase should just go and get it

[@kelliebrooks9094]

Chase was good nobody was on his fender an he got back on his composure meaning wasnt out of control an cameback on the track safely ..if he rolled down the track making a u turn going the opposite to make that 180 turn he would be disqualifyed an lose that whole riding the wrong way on the track is a DQ... hes safe he got his bikr back undet him didnt endanger any species...he ran ovet the flag mans lunch but its cool....he lucky he didnt hit the tree.....

[@skyecommander2169]

Chase should be docked a motos worth of points for that hair.🥴

[@bradley13785]

How thick are you in the head. It was either he slams into a tree or he does the smart thing and quickly pulls left. Funny because I think you’d do the same rather than hitting a tree. No point turning around and entering where he came off the track and potentially causing a big pile up crash coming into that corner it’s just common sense.

[@bprickard]

I'm a huge fan however I choose black and white. It's only fair to the mentality of the other 40 guys.

[@nicholasdohn5872]

if you guys think chase should’ve got docked for what he did you are respectfully out of your fucking mind

[@TwistedRevan]

If chase won I could see the argument but the result is the same as when he went off of the track. There is so many cry baby’s these days 🤦‍♂️

[@drewtramp1577]

Nope. It was coo.

[@DerekMantei]

Johnny hopper had a better catch phrase…

[@RotoMoto]

Imagine taking the time to actually write this comment. I literally could not care less 🤡

[@kellybrown6988]

Chase didn’t go off the track, he cut the track! Damn cheater 😂

[@ianwheeler683]

Youve obviously never raced a motorcycle off road in your life.

[@johnkristjanson]

What a stupid comment about the Chase non penalty. Namely that the reason it’s a good non penalty is because it makes the championship closer. Really?! Holy Shit. The rules are the rules. He cut the track - period. That comment and the subjective rationale is the worlds a shit show right now! Why define the track if you think you can not follow it and it’s fine. Wow

[@andrewtorgerson6143]

Look if sexton won the moto sure penalize him sure it’d be sad to see but because he lost that moto who fuckin cares

[@NvSrAgE679]

Haven’t watched your vid yet but I feel Sexton should not be penalized. Didn’t see any reason to penalize him.

[@dyldomane]

Ironland 🤣

[@rebeccamartin1931]

Yes sexton should of had a penalty for doing that a d lost ppints

[@mattcavanah4962]

Absolutely no penalty

[@robertjolliffe4164]

Ja21 wud ve bn penalised mx sport Fukn wit championship in the close series yet lol

[@DislodgedTKO]

Chase didnt gain an advantage, re-entered at the same distance back or slightly behind, didnt gas it hard when off track, momentum carried him down

[@justingreer4829]

That's some b.s.

[@phayes5847]

he should have been penalized

[@lonh8554]

It's a non call, let's move on.

[@kevincummins6256]

It was the right decision with Chase

[@peacefulwarrior4078]

NO PENALTY SHOULD BE GIVEN if you didn't gain a position on the track If you didn't gain any ground on any riders If you re enter the track where you went off or very close to it Unintentionally as soon as possible there was no penalty ! Sexton didn't do anything to be penalized and you don't want a championship to be determined on a penalty for a honest simple mistake!

[@adamchristman7367]

chase cheated, hopefully honda is paying fu money cause sponsors who have fu money are going to stay away from a sport that follows pro wrestling ethics.

[@RCTurbo79]

It's rigged for Toe nail