IRys tried to pitch Gundam Seed to Bae with NTR and BL

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[@sentinel1354]

She forgot to mention war crimes in her pitch there.

[@DemonFireRain]

it's Gundam, the war crimes are implied.

[@velveteensallet949]

That's how you draw Pekora into it.

[@sentinel1354]

True. However she'd be Rau Le Creuset in the Seed verse of Hololive.

[@gabrielchin4161]

Isn't that present in most Gundam series? I'm assuming war crimes are implied.

[@traphimawari7760]

War crimes and super awesome robots. Truly encapsulates man's desires. 😊

[@velveteensallet949]

She isn't called YabaIRyS for nothing!

[@timetraveler9105]

It is gundam SEED. Of course it’s all about Seeding, BREEDING, cultivating

[@sentinel1354]

And war crimes. That's the important part.

[@blatantslander]

I don't know about you but the cultivation genre is looking pretty DARN DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I'M SEEING

[@xxx-lq7ho]

its not a gundam without war crime like witch from mercury some person became tomato sauce

[@traphimawari7760]

There's also aliens but it never gets mentioned ever again, it's just implied that there were aliens, I'm still looking forward as to what they would do with that, then again just like reality the war shifted the topic of the existence of aliens over people throwing rocks at each other, nobody truly cares about the aliens because of society. 🤡

[@sentinel1354]

Whereas in Gundam seed, you see person pop like balloons

[@pax6833]

Irys and Ina are Gundam SEED fangirls? Fucking BASED. I absolutely love Gundam SEED. Go Irys! Corrupt Bae!

[@aeinyuki8415]

Afaik, AZki is also a SEED fan.

[@velveteensallet949]

​@@aeinyuki8415As is Sora.

[@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni]

Not surprising pretty sure Seed was one of the series that was also pretty popular among girls they just can't resist that Jesus Yamato no wonder he steals everyone's girls

[@MrCreepjo]

​@@DanielGonzalez-vo5niog Gundam was also girl heavy show with majority of their audience being girls at that time.

[@yamiRic]

oh you have to watch Azki Gundam SEED karaoke then.. It was amazing

[@velveteensallet949]

Bae's soul is weighed down by gravity but Akira Ishida shall free her from its tyranny!

[@kagephenex]

Seed Freedom was the culmination of both Seed and Seed Destiny. I have yet to watch it but based on jp twitter reactions, its basically that meme where the cat watches its owner continuously pour kibble into its bowl until it overflows. Ina and Irys' reactions are definitely genuine.

[@pax6833]

Imma eat that kibble when we finally get english release

[@kagephenex]

@@pax6833 Indeed. An eng sub release that is.

[@nerissaravencroftsmissinghorn]

really concerning how much she loves NTR...big red flag LOL

[@user-oy6zi2rl9r]

But she likes red. Look at bae

[@nerissaravencroftsmissinghorn]

@@user-oy6zi2rl9r oh well I guess it's alright then XD

[@avioracrown6967]

Now, I know I get to like NTR from. Yes, I watched this series when I'm in high school at tv 📺 But I can't remember the plot but I remember I so excited to see the pink hair get stolen or something.

[@EmperorPylades]

​@@avioracrown6967Gundam SEED has Jesus Yamato cuck two friends out of their finances, and SEED Destiny has him cuck Shinn out of the entire fucking show. So yeah, it's pretty NTR heavy.

[@Why_Do_I_Need_A_Handle_Name]

@@avioracrown6967Lacus was simply Athrun's fiancee. Kira-Athrun pre-Freedom/Justice had issues, so whatever sht happened was kind of fair. At this point, Athrun was kinda into Cagalli ady. Then Kira stepped in. At that moment, all was well. Cagalli *was* going to get married (coz reasons) to that one guy in Destiny, but you know, they weren't married yet. And we all know that it's Athrun for Cagalli anyway. Meer is just some political powerplay. Lunamaria has one-sided feelings for Shin that is later turned complicated. Shin and Stellar were together until "that". Meyrin has one-sided feelings for Athrun. Murrue and Mu ended up together. Tolle died, so anything with Mirallia isn't NTR. Flay...is a manipulative bitch? Had character development in the end, still a bitch tho. Flay and Sai were in a relationship but it was more Flay's fault than Kira's. Even Sai understood that. I might be missing some couples, but for the most part, I don't think GS/GSD are NTRs

[@DeludedOne]

The main selling point of the series is KIIIIRRRAAAAAA!!!!! AAATHHRRUUUNNNN!!!!!

[@thelegendmaster3935]

OK what's with those name yelling scenes oh yeah Nicol was 15 and he loved the piano

[@ishneak]

the power of Akira Ishida is truly something else.

[@PS5ProROGPhoneROGAllyuser]

Ah yes, NTRyS. 🤣

[@lenk2204]

If you think a about it Lacus pretty much NTRed Athrun when they we're still together

[@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni]

Not as bad as Flay did

[@MrCreepjo]

They never loved each other it was mainly political relationship forced by their parents.

[@EmperorPylades]

Not as bad as Destiny did with Shinn

[@janchristianursuaaguilar7434]

yup not to mention katsura aka athrun loves NTR gintama reference fyi

[@MrGonjack]

It is not NTRed since Athrun never really loves Lacus because they are are just matched by their family. He more into Cagally........

[@Archedgar]

Fauna called it; Bae loves ikemen.

[@kephalai]

ishida "make women around 30s dripping wet" akira

[@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni]

Its funny that she explains it that way for me 0083 is definitely Gundam NTR think I've even referred to it as that

[@HDreamer]

There's new Seed content? Wow. It's been like 20 years that I spend a whole weekend watching the entirety of Seed Destiny in one go, only afterwards finding out that it's the second season. lol

[@janchristianursuaaguilar7434]

NTR ja nai, Arthurn da!

[@thelegendmaster3935]

KATSURA DA!

[@Z48654]

I want irys to NTR me 😭😭

[@solastro5595]

To me gundam seed timeline is teenage romance drama

[@gerthddyn]

That covers UC as well, but at least the adults in the room got Mu. Destiny ruins it but he is my favorite character in SEED.

[@solastro5595]

The new gundam seed freedom looks like they cucking kira@@gerthddyn

[@sdarkpaladin]

It's Ishida Akira X Hoshi Souichiro. You could not find a better BL pairing from the early 2000s.

[@deo_exus2041]

I was so focused on the mechanics that I didn't notice the ntr...

[@DmonHiro]

To be fair... Kira stole Lacus. And then Fley stole Kira...

[@Green-tt9cx]

Until now, this lyrics.... I don’t want to lose desire I don’t want to lose my fire It’s time to countdown the fighting Just one way to freedom *Freedom* *FREEDOM* Still stuck in my head

[@kingjay7472]

I never watched can anyone confirm to me that there's NTR

[@aptspire]

Confirmed

[@Bafflementation]

The woman in question is engaged, although it's implied to be a bit more like an arranged marriage. She's still cheating though.

[@fatechance4013]

Yes, NTR in this series is so strong. without any remorse MC fcked his friends fiance. 2 of them.

[@janematthews9087]

There's a an ojousama character there that slept with the main guy, but a few eps later she freaked out and went with a different guy instead. I don't care she sucks, anyways.

[@askatamvan1054]

​​@@janematthews9087Who? Was this flay? I remember she slept with kira, but kira's friend (the blond guy) had a crush on her but she chose Kira. Did she sleep with the blond guy too? I didn't remember that part. Also I think I remember Flay got jealous of Kira because he went with Lacus (cmiiw).

[@marianchovych]

And here I thought Gundam Hathaway movie was NTR There’s more

[@gerthddyn]

We only see these interactions. Just how much anime does IRyS try to get Bae to watch off screen and neither of them talk about it afterwards? IRyS is me just in a place where she can at least find some people at work interested in her hobbies (even if the wife isn't).

[@mitchellalexander9162]

The Duality of SEED: IryS: Man I just love SEED. WoolieVerses: Now Let me tell you why this SUCKS!

[@kaitoyuki]

If Mushuku tensei is successful despite having ntr and pedos, then gundam seed should be fine for most people lmao.

[@gourmand3]

I wonder if there's a study done on people that get a kick out of NTR, must be something wrong with them

[@yamiRic]

Gundam SEED is my personal guilty pleasure.. I love every single bit of it because of how unusual it is. A perfect main character with ultimate plot armor, and a perfect heroine who always right and correct in everything. In every Gundam Universe, usually you'll have edgy male lead and cringy-weak heroine. Gundam SEED has none of that.

[@meikisaragi1445]

I just noticed that Kira and Suletta have this in common. It's interesting that they both stole other people's fiancé. No hate pls. Ntr is common in movies dramas etc anyway. Look at Spider-man and The Dark Knight they both got NTR'd. Besides, Miorine and Guel doesn't even love eachother(one sided?), And Athrun and Lacus being just friends and all. So please Chill.

[@Orchested]

Oof the ntr of Gundam seed... it Made the series so painful to watch D:

[@traphimawari7760]

It's not that bad, also it's not like Kira wasn't cheating on her and they never were that in love with each other it's more like their relationship was out of convenience and just in general using each other Kira using her to cope while Flay be using him to avenge her parents and kill as much coordinators, that's til Kira met Lacus and got rizzed by her gyatt and Flay got fanum taxed and livvied up by Rau la Crueset.

[@thedigitaldummy3098]

⁠@@traphimawari7760> Flay got fanum taxed by Rau Le Creuset Never before have I wanted to delete someone else’s account over a single comment as I do right now.

[@traphimawari7760]

@@thedigitaldummy3098 I mean it is true, jokes aside she did get taken hostage by Rau and she really felt that Stockholm syndrome hitting and got rizzed up by essentially Mu's father, and he called him a failed clone when he be out here pulling hoes.

[@traphimawari7760]

@@thedigitaldummy3098 it is true tho, jokes aside she did get taken hostage and Stockholm syndrome must have hit hard for her if she really felt the urge to sleep with a coordinator and not only that but the coordinator that has been hunting her in the archangel for weeks, literally the people hunting her down and she agrees to lend her cooch.

[@androyus]

The NTR in Zeta & 0083 are arguably worse.

[@hewhoshallnotbenamed5168]

Gundam SEED isn't my favorite Gundam series, not by a LONG SHOT, but it's still fun to watch other Gundam fans geek out.

[@fisher89898]

Meanwhile for Wfm, what is that? Should recommend gundam 00 for bae since setsuna is voiced by mamoru miyano

[@theanonymouschicken169]

And the show was the first gundam show and most popular anime series written and directed by a female director so the NTR appealing to the female fantasy. 👀

[@androyus]

The director of SEED is a *man* named *Fukuda* bro. Some people need to get their facts straight. There's a bunch of misinformation in this comment section.

[@theanonymouschicken169]

@@androyus Please take your own advice and not spread misinformation by doing a 2 second google search and actually look the information provided. Mitsuo Fukuda is her *HUSBAND.* Chiaki Morosawa is the screenwriter/Author and creator of the series In the behind the scenes, she wrote, storyboarded and was present and during the whole productions basically a director. We are in 1990s(production started 1998, released 2002) in Japan so misogyny was much more prevalent so making her husband the ‘director’ is how she was able to avoid workplace politics. Unfortunately she developed cancer near end of gundam seed and because the series was so popular a season 2(gundam seed destiny) was greenlit. but because Chiaki Morosawa was fighting the battle against cancer she was sick for most of the production, which is why infamously second half of gundam seed destiny had the same plot and same reused animations as the second half of the first season because Chiaki Morosawa was at the hospital it was the only way for her husband to meet the dead lines of a weekly series. She passed away on 19th February 2016. She was the Goat.

[@androyus]

​@@theanonymouschicken169 You said Morosawa directed SEED. That is *wrong* bro. *Fukuda directed SEED* while Morosawa wrote it. A simple Google search will tell you right away 🙄

[@MaximusLight]

Don't do it Bae or at least if you do go straight to Seed Destiny since that was actually alright

[@thedigitaldummy3098]

Remember, whenever anyone tries to play historical revisionism by claiming that “women are responsible for Gundam’s success” (looking at you G-witch fans), be sure to remind them that those people weren’t women. They’re fujoshis.

[@elxjasonx]

Irys, someone you should never listen on anime taste...

[@Deadgye]

I don't like this growing trend of complicated relationships shifts being labeled as NTR.

[@StrikeNoir105E]

I think it got mentioned as such because Flay was originally Sai's girlfriend, then she suddenly became Kira's girl. Yes the intent was more on Flay than on Kira but from an outside observer it definitely looks like NTR. Though indeed it's not actually "NTR" because that is a very specific action using sex as a means to steal a girl's affections, whereby in this case the act comes afterwards and it was the girl that started it. Basically it's more "cheating ho" than "NTR".

[@pilferedserenity1570]

My dude if you are shifting relationships like a manual transmission that's NTR

[@askatamvan1054]

​@@StrikeNoir105EWas Sai the blond guy with glasses? And flay was in relationship? Wtf I just knew this fact know. I guess I was too young to remember the intricate part.

[@magickoopa24]

For me it's less about complicated relationships and more about the sad, longing looks people give their partners as they talk with someone of the opposite sex like 30 feet away. It happened so much in The Seeds, and I couldn't stand it. Can't believe Freedom also does it

[@xxJing]

I watched Seed for the first time when I was a teenager. Just about everyone hated Shinn, but my favorite part of the series was unironically just Shinn raging and destroying everything. I laughed my ass off when he was willing to just impale Lunamaria to try to kill Kira (or was it Athrun, I can't really remember).

[@Tarage]

The Gundam Seed movie was not great. It was a fucking trainwreck.

[@MrCreepjo]

The money it pumped and reviews it got says otherwised. The fact it's now the highest grossing Gundam movie.

[@Heatranoveryou]

Gundam seed is absolute garbage though. I wouldn't recommend anyone waste their time with it. The writers had to have been brain dead. No I have not watched most of it because it's that bad from the beginning.

[@strategicperson95]

Lucky you. I watched both SEED and Destiny. I was suckered in by Andrew Waltfeld. But I could see how bad the story was Spoilers: ZAFT are treated like the villain for most of the series when most of details and portrayal of them is more showing they are reacting to horrible atrocities. How anyone could side with the Atlantic Federation is the greatest question I have, especially how they try to soften the AF by saying its really Blue Cosmos but you can't pull that after I've seen how awful the AF is; especially after Alaska. The show especially has done more for me to cheer for the antagonists (Rau for SEED and Durandal for Destiny) over the "heroes". So much so that I have now an innate hatred for any Gundam character that spouts the same or similar dribble that came out of Kira. This really screwed me over when watching other Gundam series like Char's Counterattack and Unicorn (I will admit with both of those being my first UCs, I had no context; but after watching UC shows like Zeta, I have a better understanding to note how awful my hatred of Kira screwed with me). Not to mention Kira and Lacus' hypocrisy that was overly abundant throughout Destiny. I would have enjoyed Destiny if Lacus and Kira stayed out of the story. But if they had to be there; I'm just going to say there would have been 1 million ways to improve Destiny IF we had to keep most of the details from the end product. I'm even wondering if I could even call my relationship with the Cosmic Era as a Love-Hate feeling, as I lean more on the Hate part than love. I really wish I didn't have SEED as my first Gundam. Thankfully 00 cleansed my palette and later works like Origin really got me to truly give the series, especially their alternate universes their proper due. Haven't seen Witch, cause honestly I'd rather watch the other Gundam series (Double Zeta, X, etc.) before I jump into what I'm thinking may make SEED and Destiny less awful by comparison. The Gundam Series I have watched: UC: Origin, Stardust Memories, Zeta, Unicorn, Narrative (will be rewatching Char's Counterattack) Gundam Wing CE: Gundam SEED, Destiny, Stargazer (this is the only good thing, but that's not saying much for CE) Gundam 00 and its second Season IBO

[@Heatranoveryou]

@@strategicperson95 witch is not good but its nowhere near that bad. I think the average watcher liked it until the ending. Kind of like darling in the franxx.

[@EmperorPylades]

@@strategicperson95 SEED Destiny is one of the only series in all of Gundam that people will generally list as being outright "bad", along with AGE, and to a lesser extent, Victory and "Reconquista in G". So you've experienced the worst there is on offer already.

[@janarcangel49]

Ah yes Seed. UC for casuals. Easier to get into

[@strategicperson95]

Extremely frustrating for anyone that enjoys war and morally grey stories.