Is 80 Hz the Best Crossover Frequency Setting for Your Speakers? Home Theater Basics

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Techno Dad

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5 жыл бұрын

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@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Video Timeline: 1:18 - THX Standard 4:15 - The Big Question! 5:05 - My Methodology 7:45 - My Recommendation 11:40 - The Wrap Up!
@voodoo9077
@voodoo9077 5 жыл бұрын
Since your still testing the PB4000, you should do a comparison with RCA subwoofer cable. From super expensive one, to affordable.
@chriswelljack4910
@chriswelljack4910 5 жыл бұрын
Techno dad i dont know what reciever u are using but do u know you can set your speakers to small and still cross them over to what ever point you want them at?
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that will make a huge difference honestly.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
@Chriswell, yup!
@chriswelljack4910
@chriswelljack4910 5 жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDad ok cool because setting your speakers to small doesnt really mean they are small its for just telling the av wat to do with the rest of the bass frequency
@diegonieva1080
@diegonieva1080 2 жыл бұрын
Man, after daaaaays of trying to figure out why the sound was so crappy on my new Wharfdale towers, I came across your video and made the settings make so much more sense! All of a sudden I can hear details again! Thank you!!!!
@VimalReynolds
@VimalReynolds 5 жыл бұрын
I am just getting back into home theater, and this video and others on your channel have helped tremendously. Thanks.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
You're VERY welcome Vimal! Thank you for watching!
@itgeeky6313
@itgeeky6313 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I am not an expert at home Theatre systems but I have been learning a lot from Techno Dad's videos... The guy really knows his stuff.
@andreusburton8838
@andreusburton8838 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you for the tips in this video. I adjusted my crossovers and it made a world of difference. You were definitely correct. I did get a much fuller and even sounding bass from my speakers, especially with fronts. Please keep making videos. I thoroughly enjoy your channel.
@zanfear
@zanfear 4 жыл бұрын
For about 10 years I had no idea about crossover frequency settings (I'm 26 but I'm the tech guy in my family lol). I'm going to have to play around with our set up. What did you end up choosing as crossovers for your speakers?
@ferrisburgh802
@ferrisburgh802 3 жыл бұрын
This is really an issue that never seems to go away. Unfortunately many people, myself included fell into the trap of using the recommended 80 hz crossover for all the speakers. I didn't know much about speaker frequency response capability except it was an number in the speaker specs. Like many I purchased speakers based on recommendations from friends and reading reviews; ditto receivers. Needless to say I've wasted a lot of money. Since watching you guys on your daily podcast I have become more knowledgeable. I subscribed to your channel and came across this video. It was truly a great find. My system which consists of ML 60xts, 50xt and FX surrounds with a Polk 10 inch Sub with the FL, FR , FC set to 60 Hz and the FXs left at 80hz has really opened up the sound to the point I sat in amazement when playing my favorite go to CD which is the 1812 Overture on Mercury Living Presence with all the bells, cannon shots, etc. and the Hobbit - Battle of Five Armies movie. BTW my AVR is the Marantz SR7013 with the Emotiva BASX 2 driving the FCR speakers leaving the sub and surrounds to the Marantz (which really had a problem driving the ML 60xts despite what their specs said, that is another story). This is a long post but thank you. Perhaps this is a topic you guys should revisit on your daily podcasts.
@wayneburger2318
@wayneburger2318 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks TD appreciate you always doing the groundwork and making it so simplistic to understand.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
No problem Wayne, thank you for watching!
@rafaelperez9652
@rafaelperez9652 5 жыл бұрын
Always learn something new from TD's channel because he knows what he's talking about! I like that. Great!! 👍
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rafael!
@frazy1984
@frazy1984 5 жыл бұрын
Every video of yours is detailed and of professional level. Your way of mixing humour with the facts, is what makes the viewers keen on listening to you, without making them bored. I appreciate your efforts. Thanks and keep going.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mrfixinspitzin
@mrfixinspitzin 5 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. For my Klipsch 8000F's I have two crossover presets on my Yamaha Aventage Receiver, one for movies @ 60hz, and one for music at @ 40hz. After listening for quite some time I have settled on these settings and could not be happier.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
NICE!!!
@Bozlee22
@Bozlee22 Жыл бұрын
When THX came up with the 80Hz standard it was over 25 years ago. Speakers have improved dramatically since then. Test and listen for yourself to see what’s best for your system and don’t forget the Surrounds.
@PauldeSilvaG
@PauldeSilvaG 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you on this. The Audyssey XT32 does it all for you and more e.g. crossovers, channel levels, time delays and EQs and phasings.
@Napalm44
@Napalm44 5 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed thank you. The video was def helpful I've been having this discussion with my friends for long time. Wish I had seen this video awhile ago. I have tower 1
@Enforcer0623
@Enforcer0623 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Answered all my questions... Thank you!
@Spirited_Driver
@Spirited_Driver 4 жыл бұрын
I love experimenting with the crossovers, I run 11.2.2 including a 4-way B&W HTM centre, and 12" tower mains, 10"&15" subwoofers, 6.5" everywhere else. I have the 15" sealed velodyne set around 40hz, it moves a lot of air that you feel on your pants its such a nice boost in extension into the sub frequencies. My 10" audio research is ported so its got a punch in the higher 80hz area and i have it set to 90hz. The mains and heights set to large 40hz highpass they sweeten everything at a flat but very full response throughout the entire frequency sweep. the centre although 4-way doesnt have much bass output lower than around 100hz despite its size, its set to 100. Then i have the crossover for the Low frequency extension setting that sends subwoofer signal to the mains as well as the subwoofer, its set to 150hz which seems to sound better.giving all the bass to the mains as well.
@WolfRathmAGR
@WolfRathmAGR 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man! Thanks! That's helps me a lot!!
@MrJgibo1
@MrJgibo1 5 жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying my Klipsch RF 820s with my SVS SB 4000. Watched over 50 4k movies. Finally got around to using REW. Found I had a big dip at 42 hz despite the great bass. Had to adjust one of the DSP and put it out of phase. Now I'm in heaven all over again 😁
@hi-fihaven2257
@hi-fihaven2257 5 жыл бұрын
Great work covering the home theater basics. Great pertinent information, always helpful! Great work on this video.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!!
@jr62inhometheater98
@jr62inhometheater98 5 жыл бұрын
Great topic and video. That’s always something I am experimenting with . You bring up some valid points and something I will try.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@mikeortiz2139
@mikeortiz2139 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a fair amount of your videos and after this one, I have a greater appreciation for you T.D. Keep on, keeping on.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Mike!
@iwasteuseraccounts
@iwasteuseraccounts 5 жыл бұрын
Great info. Hope you'll do a video about Atmos speakers regarding this. Thanks.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! Maybe next week!
@khobia2
@khobia2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Channa great video. I looked at several and thought your recommendations rounded off everything I had looked at and read. I have a Pioneer SP-52KFS system. I’m thinking about about upgrading to either elac, svs, or klipsch but that’s beside the point. So on the spec sheet the towers bottom out at 40 Hz center and surrounds 55 Hz, atmos-enabled at 180 Hz. So I raised everything up by 10 hz 50 hz and 70 hz respectively. Subwoofers set 120 hz and atmos-enabled speakers (180 hz) I left at the auto-calibration level of 150 hz. I’ll listen to these settings for a week or so and see if I like ‘em.
@drakestevens5053
@drakestevens5053 3 жыл бұрын
I like your video! It's refreshing to hear advice telling people to to try out different settings to see what sounds best for their unique setup, rather than pretending to know something specific about something with so many variables. I loved how you described your process, particularly how you explained why you chose the test clip that you did. Great information. My 5.2.4 Atmos setup in the family room is set at 80Hz because it sounds best with my Boston HS-40 surrounds and height speakers. My 5.1 in the man cave, however, is set at 60Hz because it sounds fuller with my Infinity Sterling SS-03 speakers. The right crossover point really does depend upon speaker size and placement, and room size and acoustics. New fan of your channel! Thank you!
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Drake, and welcome! I am a music producer and DJ, so I play around with frequencies all the time when mixing music. There are times where you just have to trust your ears. You said it yourself, there are too many variables and making a broad statement about what it should be set to is a difficult thing.
@kozkoz7776
@kozkoz7776 5 жыл бұрын
You can certainly get thru to people with you tutorial SIMPLE to understand and for that I THANK YOU WELL DONE
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome!! Thanks for watching!
@ForPetesake552
@ForPetesake552 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this video, cause I’ve been kind of scratching my head about this very topic. Great review!!
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
@ForPetesake552
@ForPetesake552 3 жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDad thank you again.
@richardburnett8595
@richardburnett8595 3 жыл бұрын
Always good at a change point new subs ! Wow cheers trying to dial these little monsters in
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 2 жыл бұрын
Very solid advice brother... Ive seen all the recommended 80/120 recommendations and tested myself..all I can say is its not only subjective but will vary from system to system as well... 80 and 120 may sound great on one system and not right on another..also music listening vs hometheater setup may require straying from those parameters..Truly, you need to do what you have done: try the settings and then vary things within the parameters set by ur speakers capabilities and try a varity of listening, then see what complements the sound and what degrades the sound... one rule fits all does not really work, its a starting point, you dial in from there.
@guy197
@guy197 Жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see a video keeping an open mind about crossovers and not just saying "Set crossover on all your speakers to 80Hz. Period." like so many out there. Especially when it comes to the center channel.
@alexnather7614
@alexnather7614 4 жыл бұрын
i can't believe that there's any dislikes, i mean come on guys. This guy is the real deal and knows what he's talking about.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex!! Haters always going to hate!
@mark17840
@mark17840 2 жыл бұрын
he knows a lot he is the real deal,
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 2 жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDad i’m still working on trying to figure out what the perfect crossover would be for Bowers and Wilkins 805 D3 speakers. Any feedback you could give me would be helpful
@Kev-O33
@Kev-O33 2 ай бұрын
lol
@Vincent-lw2sp
@Vincent-lw2sp 5 жыл бұрын
I think you're 100% correct that it's all subjective and everyone's room is going to sound different. The size of the room, placement of the speakers, and listening distance are all factors that contribute to how the sound is going to change in any given situation. Tweaking to find what sounds best in your room is part of the enjoyment of the hobby (IMHO).
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Woot Woot!
@patk2225
@patk2225 5 жыл бұрын
well my sound system has perfect sound reproduction and my subwoofer crossover is at 64Hz and my subwoofer doesn't make any sounds at the 90Hz frequency perfect sound is not subjective
@Turtleback8024
@Turtleback8024 4 жыл бұрын
@@patk2225 I still think "perfect" is subjective though.
@skylordsrebornpvpreplays5795
@skylordsrebornpvpreplays5795 3 жыл бұрын
well said
@Brian_Fantastic
@Brian_Fantastic 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Klipsch R-26F, and I used the John Wick club scene as my demo as well. I believe I landed at 60hz for these speakers. I had the towers set to large for months, but after making this change I notice a huge difference in quality.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Brian! Thank you for sharing your experience!
@mikez-ht7706
@mikez-ht7706 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I leave all my settings at 80hz/Atmos at 100hz plus lfe at 120hz dual 12" DB12 subs & sounds perfect for me, all depends on what you like & what equipment you are using. My Fluance Signature series towers going down at 35hz. 2.0 for music i change to full band without the dual subs.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Nice!!!
@dougbulldog9947
@dougbulldog9947 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge., I enjoy your show and have learned plenty. I hear you when you say it is subjective and I understand why I should probably set all my speakers to small and the receiver crossover point to 80HZ but... when I use YPAO mic to setup my Yamaha RX V473 receiver YPAO changes all the speakers (except the center channel) from small back to large and crossover back from 80 to 120 or sometimes right up to 160HZ The Yammy receiver is connected to Onkyo SKF-4800 floor-standing front speakers, Onkyo SKC-4800 center speaker, Infinity reference 5.5'' bookshelf rear speakers on stands and Sony SA-WM40 subwoofer. I mainly listen to rock and country music and stream the occasional movie or tv series. I struggle to get my head around frequency numbers ans I know is subjective, but without hearing it do you think I should probably still change all the speakers back to small and crossover to 80??? Thanks again, keep up the good work.
@moshak9888
@moshak9888 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Techno Dad this vid really helped me understand about crossovers so many thanks and keep on going
@joshuauttangi9500
@joshuauttangi9500 2 жыл бұрын
I need help on my set up please, I bought in a entry level Yamaha YHT 3072 5.1 av receiver along with the Taga TAV 506 v.2 and a subwoofer TAV 90 v.4, all I want to know is what crossover frequency do I set up on the av receiver and what Crossover frequency do I set up on the subwoofer, I'm using a LFE cable to link the sub to the av receiver... Thanks.
@woosa42
@woosa42 4 жыл бұрын
Great info. I had originally bought the Onkyo tz-nr630, but ended up having hdmi problems losing sound when ever it felt like it. Loved it when it worked properly. I could adjust the crossovers at 10hz at a time for the ear level speakers. I ended up returning it for the Denon x4500h, which is even better. The only issue i have with the Denon is i can't adjust the crossovers for the ear level speakers at 10hz at a time so i can dial it in better. With the Onkyo i had my center channel at 70hz. It's 20 hz at a time. Man, i wish i could get that down to 70, lol.
@samirheer1294
@samirheer1294 2 жыл бұрын
You are so cool. You are so helpful and I always learn so much from you. Keep doing what you’re doing bro.
@troyevans3724
@troyevans3724 5 жыл бұрын
Solid video with some really great and useful advice. Im teally digging the channel bra.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you liked the video!
@mousey31
@mousey31 5 жыл бұрын
You never disappoint bro! Big ups to you.🙌🙌🙌🙌
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video!
@XNeo27564
@XNeo27564 5 жыл бұрын
I was really impressed when you said 'john wick is here' your point was made clearly sir.
@T-eee-L
@T-eee-L 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I'm definitely going to adjust my L/R and C channel tonight. I'm running a Denon AVR-X6500H along with a full Martin Logan setup (Motion 40's as my L/R and Motion 50XT as my C).
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Nice setup! I should be getting an X6500H to review soon and I have a review coming out shortly on a very small ML 5.1
@T-eee-L
@T-eee-L 5 жыл бұрын
Techno Dad super! I’m looking forward to the review! Not many KZbinrs have reviewed this beast and that’s too bad because the X6500H is a beast!
@bphilbac
@bphilbac 5 жыл бұрын
Nice and helpful info. Thanks bro.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@desmondgillam112
@desmondgillam112 4 жыл бұрын
i agree with you views on crossovers there's a disc delos de 3179 which has a 20,000 to 15 hz test to see where your main speakers rolloff hope this helps good video
@blueboyblue
@blueboyblue 5 жыл бұрын
Even in the Subwoofer range, as frequency goes up, the beams or directionality of the speaker becomes more directional. At lower frequencies, sound tends to sound Omni-Directional or all directional. At above 80hz, the bass sound starts to become more directional. That is, instead of coming from everywhere, it seems to be coming from a specific direction. Now this is a steady process, the higher the frequency, the more you can determine the direction the sound is coming from. Under 80hz, the sound tends to be coming from everywhere which is what you want for Sub-Bass for Movies, and even for Music.
@DigitalDonAV
@DigitalDonAV 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. This is a hard subject only because of he amount of variables, I'd say 80 has always been a good reference point for most in a surround system, in years past A/V receivers had somewhat limited bass management options, today things are different at the mid to high end level. One of the factors in a lot of the systems i have setup over the years that use clients legacy towers speakers is the power output of the A/V receiver. If a client had big fairly inefficient towers, lowering the crossover point and adding bass would definitely sap the power from the receiver on surround playback effecting the overall sound of the system, not so much an issue with speakers like Klipsch that are crazy efficient, but speakers that were in the low 80db range power hogs. In my system, my towers run full range in both two channel and surround, they are efficient and have powerful outboard amps pushing them with tons of headroom, but If I had a mid level A/V receiver (Like most people do)I would probably experiment just as you suggested...as you know, manufactures specs can be a little inflated from time to time :-) Anyway not trolling at all, I am an AV pro in my day job and former DJ myself, your info is sound, it's just that there are a ton of factors involved in this people may not consider and you could make a two our video on this...bust only audio nerds like us would watch. Good job brother.
@amb86
@amb86 2 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful! Thanks!
@michaelcharles5273
@michaelcharles5273 4 жыл бұрын
Hey i changed my Klipsch RP 280f to Large which made a big difference in my sound, my music is much fuller. I had to lower my sub levels but i LOVE the change. Great video Thank you.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@007galaxie
@007galaxie Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I've had my crossover set at 80Hz for ever. I just received a new RP504Cii that'll replace my old center. I'll experiment and lower that crossover for both the center and mains. I'm sure my vintage Cerwin Vega 150's will wake up :)
@ireniqs
@ireniqs 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! A lot of useful information. Thanks! Like it and subed!
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!!
@frankenstudio22
@frankenstudio22 4 жыл бұрын
Great video / clear explanation! Thanks
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@mohammedkumail5373
@mohammedkumail5373 3 жыл бұрын
THIS WAY ONLY ONE SPEAK WHO IS COMPETENT AND TRUE TO HIS WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE, ABSOLUTELY AWESOME TUTORIAL, LIKED THE WAY YOU SLAPPED UR CRITICS😁KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MATE!! 👍👍
@wattspeakers
@wattspeakers 3 жыл бұрын
I've experienced the same thing. Moderate home theater setup with a Sony Atmos receiver, and full Energy Connoisseur setup. LRC are CC-10's, LH & RH are CB-10's, LR RR are CB-20's and there's 3 CSW-C8 subs. All the main speakers are 60-20k, and 92db. I've tried all sorts of crossover points, and it sounds really nice at the THX 80hz, but I've got them all set at 70hz and 0db which surprisingly makes a considerable difference and the whole system sounds richer and fuller with certain effects and music that are being played in surround that would otherwise be subdued. The subs are at -5 but they've got a 97db efficiency, and I have effect/eq set to off and it all sounds pretty sweet regardless if it's a new Atmos movie, an old 5.1, or even stereo. Thanks for the video!
@bryanp4827
@bryanp4827 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Channa, it's amazing sometimes how we all just go with the flow of recommended settings...i did, and my Paradigm front end for sure goes down to around 40Hz, so i too might have a muck around with some settings, and see what transpires...Cheers brother!👍
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I always mess around with settings but it's per speaker so it's getting a bit out of hand with all the speakers I'm going to be having in the near future, LOL!
@kim_not_tim
@kim_not_tim 4 жыл бұрын
How did they sound after messing with it Chill Bill?
@BruceLee-ro5eh
@BruceLee-ro5eh Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video helped me out a lot!!!👍😁
@8Castiel7
@8Castiel7 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, having never owned a sub before I had it set on the 80hz I saw recommended everywhere but when watching movies it was just overpowering and boomy, lowered it to 70hz and things sounded better. I'll continue adjusting things as I go to see what works best.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Castiel! That’s the thing about audio, everyone likes hearing things differently, and everyone’s room is different. The best thing to do is experiment with different settings and find the ones you like the most.
@karlsheldon60
@karlsheldon60 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. What I got out of this video we need towho what are our speakers frequency can handle also. Larger or tower speakers. I have Bose 601 series 1 speakers for my front. They are very big and very old. Would I consider those tower or large speakers?
@shaunrichards744
@shaunrichards744 5 жыл бұрын
Your the man techno dad I tried it on my polk tower speakers which can go down to 40 Hz set my ROTEL processor mains to 60 Hz and left my center and surrounds at 80Hz and set subwoofer at 120Hz and made a big difference to bass performance over the recommended ROTEL default settings which was 100Hz.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Shaun! I'm glad it worked out for you!
@mrsandroks
@mrsandroks 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, can you make a video elaborating about having two subwoofers / dual / stereo subwoofer? Thanks
@cedo2297
@cedo2297 4 жыл бұрын
Channa, thank you very much i purchased the rf7 iii and rc64 due to you and youthman. Can you give me an up to date crossover starting point from your experience yhat i can set my front stage at. I would appreciate that. Thanks again. Also small or large for the rf7 iii and rc-64 iii
@RBS22
@RBS22 5 жыл бұрын
I was never convinced in the frequency cut in 80hz for the front speakers, with his suggestion and thought, completely removed my doubt, I adjusted in 80rz, since they go down well until 42hz. I also dare house music, jazz ...
@farookchowdhury3949
@farookchowdhury3949 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video bro. I like your videos. Bro please let me know, I am using the subwoofer SVS PB 12 NSD and really can't decide to set the crossover. Shall I set it up to 120 hz or below that. My amp is Onkyo tx nr 686. Would really appreciate to have your advise and answer on this ASAP.
@andrewfox1446
@andrewfox1446 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos they are very informative regarding the point on floorstanders or any other speaker really they will only handle what they will handle crossover frequencies I agree or different but on the point with floor standards what I do I select full band to get the best full power out of the actual speaker and then I also select double bass on subwoofer settings to underpin if I ever needed to but I have to be honest in 25 years I've never used a subwoofer if your speakers can handle it and are good quality they will deliver the chance that I've experienced is people don't know how to use subwoofers they are obsessed with bass and putting base or trying to put base there when it isn't even on the soundtrack and it all comes back to the same thing if it isn't on the recording you will be whistling Dixie forever more brilliant video Our Kid love from the UK Oh yeah even on surround backs I can't really tell the difference but if you have to mess around with crossover frequencies and then maybe there would be applied but I never do all my speakers are on full band and all I can tell you is I'm surprised my plaster and windows are still in place and it isn't the most powerful system either I use on Onkyo TX nr609 from nearly 10 years ago it is not at Moss but still sounds absolutely freaking amazing even on music I think people need to pare the speakers more carefully preferably the same make on all speaker all around that way you get a full balance and you get a good cohesion of speakers but everybody is different again mate a great video love from the UK I shall leave you alone now
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew!! Thank you for sharing your experience and watching from across the pond! What I know from surround back channels is that there is such little information unless it's an action movie that's 100%. You won't hear a whole lot of difference, so I would keep those and the surrounds at 80 Hz.
@Charlesbjtown
@Charlesbjtown 3 жыл бұрын
This is without question, the longest sentence I've ever seen. Not a stitch of punctuation.
@thewedge4745
@thewedge4745 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched and great review . Got a question . I have the Q Acoustics 3050i floorstanding speakers and the Q Acoustics 3090ci centre speaker with two svs sb1000 subs and 4 svs prime Elevation speakers two for Heights and the other two for rears all set at 80hz would you suggest setting the fronts to 50hz and the centre to 70hz and what would suggestion be for the Heights and rears . Many Thanks . Wedge .
@stephenfrancisvoros382
@stephenfrancisvoros382 4 жыл бұрын
I found this with my sound system too, centre is accusound 200w rms 8ohm 25hz 40hz 90db sensitivity and fronts are polk audio signature s60, 300w 8ohm 26hz 40hz 90db sensitivity, my Yamaha RX-A 3070 ypao wants to set them large, but it's way to much base, mostly from the polks, so I changed the centre to small and like you played with crossover points, finding it sounding best at 60hz crossover, male female voices sound better, the polks I set small too, finding crossover was best 40hz, so they are digging deep still but no to much for the whole system, I watched John Wick yesterday and it sounds spot on, other speakers are set small 80hz crossover, the whole system rolls off perfectly and smoothly into my 2x emotiva basx s12 subs, I've just finished the build of my upgraded system, being 7.2.4, it's awesome!
@av_rob79
@av_rob79 2 жыл бұрын
Hey great videos, I recently got into home theater and have been watching your videos a lot and they have helped out immensely. Since I got my home theater a couple weeks ago I have had all my speakers set to large but now it's time to set crossover frequencies. So today I set them all to small and set frequencies to 80Hz on all except my atmos height speakers I set to 110Hz. Now I want to dial them into proper frequencies but I need some help. My towers are Soundstage Atmosphere T5's with a frequency range of 41-28 KHz. Setting these to 80 seems wrong but I am really new to this. What would be a good frequency to set these at? Any help on this subject would be greatly appreciated
@DOrtizPhoto
@DOrtizPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. What setting would you recommended for a Sennheiser soundbar with a SVS 13" 800w sealed sub
@davidcole2337
@davidcole2337 5 жыл бұрын
Great info. I will give this a try.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! let me know how it goes!
@joelane4670
@joelane4670 4 жыл бұрын
You explain everything so well dude. Thank you!! Question....I have older Polk satellites..will they have that number on the speaker somewhere?..Sorry but I would look,but I won’t be home for at least a month..lol. Thanks again...And don’t worry about the folks that cant make sense of good advice..just sayin..
@gauthamv77
@gauthamv77 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanations I’m considering buying the mono price monolith 3 Channel LCR in wall speakers. I can’t decide between the ones that have 4 woofers versus 2 woofers. I’m setting up a home theater - 3800 cubic feet. I have two RSL sub woofers. Do I need the extra woofers in the LCRs
@tecnologicoguemoba5382
@tecnologicoguemoba5382 2 жыл бұрын
Muy buen video, recomiendas cambiar el corte del subwoofer que por defecto es 120 hz en el receptor, bajarlo a 80 hz?, el corte de los satelites los tengo en 80 hz tambien!!
@vader540is
@vader540is 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I agree%100!
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robertbarton3556
@robertbarton3556 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video, I agree with using your ears with the equipment you have, why would you buy some nice towers that have good bass extension and then as you say chop it off at the legs with a higher crossover point, the only reason you might do this is if you are having bass problems in your room from your fronts because of positioning that you are stuck with or because of room size or furniture etc I don't have a sub (I live in a flat) but i set my crossover to the centre to 80hz which is the same as the speaker manaufacturers specs, and 100hz for my small surround speakers, again the same as the manufacturers specs, it takes away a lot of strain from the smaller speakers and they sound clearer for it, but if you can, run your fronts full range, but play around with the crossovers like you say and let your ears decide
@angelluisguzmandeleon4903
@angelluisguzmandeleon4903 5 жыл бұрын
this guy is great .. his channel is good and you learn many details and if you read the comments it is like an endless source of experiences .. very good content .. my question to techno dad is: I bought 1 pair Klipsch RP-402S for surround side .., when I run the audyssey the crossover is 120 hz .. and the Dolby Atmos. 2 pairs RP-500SA (back) and Rp-140SA (front) .. audyssey crossover 60hz .. however in the manufacturer's manual it puts at least 150 hz for Dolby Atmos use. I have it at 200 Hz and it is perfect. .for me .. that you recommend me .. so that the surround is more immersive ,, lower them to 80hz? hope your channel grow exponentially..
@sonicboomin
@sonicboomin 3 жыл бұрын
used your method with same john wick scene. i have polk signature series fronts and center, both center and fronts sounded best to me at 60HZ. thanks for the tip.
@yournightmare9999
@yournightmare9999 5 жыл бұрын
Great topic 👌 how to adjust sub and reciver for sub and speakers for best sound
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Word! I'll work on that!
@calistameghan
@calistameghan 4 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Have a question on av receivers and using a crown amplifier for my mains don’t know what to set the input sensitivity on the crown amplifier to? my receiver is a denon avr 6500 and for speakers I’m using all cerwin Vega xls series my mains are the xls single 15s - center channel xls 6c - and the rears are xls-6 . Also really don’t know anything about base management because I’m new to this surroundsound area should I set my mains to small or large
@tulioalopez
@tulioalopez 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you help.
@BluesChoker01
@BluesChoker01 5 жыл бұрын
FYI, I've disconnected my subs from the floor with shock platforms usually used for say, monitors or guitar amps on risers. This allows them to move a bit and direct more sound into the listening area, and less into the carpeted floor. Huge difference after tuning!!
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! I always decouple my subwoofer from the floor. I even do that with my center channel. I also do that in my music studio with monitors and my large Marshall tube combo. I have found a product that will do the same for speakers but it's pricey. I need to make a video on them soon!
@BluesChoker01
@BluesChoker01 5 жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDad Channa, This may be off topic here. I'm an acoustic and electric guitarist now that I've semi-retired. Mo time, mo music. :-) I have software to slow tracks maintaining pitch, changing keys, altered tunings, etc, for learning to play new stuff. But I'd like to improve my software arsenal for recording. As you know, many recorded versions of songs have two or three guitars which you have to combine into fewer instruments for a live performance--unless you have the rare luxury of three guitarists! True, combining parts is learning event that increases knowledge and promotes a better sound, but it can be tedious. I'd like to play the different parts myself and mix them. I'd have to add some percussion and base, etc. Do you think one platform, say Apple has the best music apps? It's amazing that we can afford software and hardware that used to cost hundreds of thousands of bucks and took up half a room. :-) Is there a better place to get your thoughts? Thx!!!
@99Duds
@99Duds 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@patrick1eas
@patrick1eas 5 жыл бұрын
good explanation TD, going to try playing with the cross over this weekend. I have it set to 80 Hz on all my speakers because it was the "correct" setting lol
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Totally understand! Let me know what you experience!
@patrick1eas
@patrick1eas 5 жыл бұрын
wow, it does sound better man Techno Dad 1UP!
@zanfear
@zanfear 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrick1eas What did you end up choosing?
@smklvr69
@smklvr69 4 жыл бұрын
@@zanfear just look up your speakers and their frequency response and set each channel accordingly if you have all the same at they drop off at around 35hz like shown with a set in this video, set your crossover in the amp to 40hz or 50hz (usually always better to go +10 so it mixes well) then let the subwoofer take over from there. Like I have all the same 7 large bookshelf speakers that can go down to 32hz, set to 40hz crossover then my subwoofer set to kick in at around 60hz to fill in the sound and anything lower.
@MichaelGreco
@MichaelGreco 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Keeping with my budget system, I'm got some price appropriate speakers to mount to the ceiling. polk audio owm3, going to do top middle with the Denon 3400. Frequently response goes down to 80, what would you suggest I set the crossover to? Do you do 80 on your Prime elevation? Thanks man
@brendanlawton7518
@brendanlawton7518 5 жыл бұрын
I usually follow SVS's guideline of double what your speaker is rated {eg. 40Hz rating set to 80 75Hz set to 150} Seems to be a good starting point then get closer to actual rating of speakers.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good way to look at it!
@antoinebaylor4166
@antoinebaylor4166 3 жыл бұрын
Super dope video, I have a question, I’m running svs Ultra Towers Ultra center Ultra books and a pb4000 the towers are Bi-amp thru Marantz 7015/Emotiva XPA 7 gen3 where should I set the crossover at?
@angelluisguzmandeleon4903
@angelluisguzmandeleon4903 5 жыл бұрын
excellent video ...what do you recommend crossover and level Home theater 7.2.2 AVR Marantz 7012 Bluray 4k panasonic DP ub820 Front klipsch RF-42II Center RP 504C Subwoofer klipsch R-110SW Subwoofer SVS PB 1000 Surround and surround back RB-41 II Dolby Atmos Rp 140SA living Room size 13 x 31 (403 sq feet)
@DriftTaxi
@DriftTaxi 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah my fronts are dual 10, center is 4 6.5" and all my mains are full sized towers (surrounds: 3-way with 8" sub driver, and, rears are 5-way with 12" sub drivers) . I run my crossover at 40Hz and it's big sound,. I love it!
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@Icelandlover
@Icelandlover 3 жыл бұрын
When we adjust crossover accordingly, is there a point to set the avr for either small or large speakers? Audioholics recommends to set the 3 main speakers to small in a HT set-up.
@TheReverendSlim
@TheReverendSlim 5 жыл бұрын
In-room extension is always lower than the speaker's natural rolloff. I have found that in most rooms, given the typical slope of crossovers, your best setting will be a half-octave above the spec'd -3dB rolloff. So multiply the speaker's -3dB point by 1.5 and you will usually nail it, barring phase alignment issues.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Great tip, I'll check it out!
@sleazypig
@sleazypig 4 жыл бұрын
So I just now ordered some Klipsch r620f floor speakers they have two six inch drivers so what would you recommend as a good crossover for them. I pick them up today they are my first towers
@johnbarberio4425
@johnbarberio4425 Жыл бұрын
Great video; question, when having large towers as front speakers like the Rf-7's or other, does it also make sense to put the speakers at large instead of tweaking the crossover? Again I haven't tried any if this yet, but I wanted your input on this. Tks for reading
@evil156
@evil156 4 жыл бұрын
do you unplug all the other speakers except sub and the particular one to test for finding the right frequency?
@francisorig1767
@francisorig1767 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video technodad...
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@gigachard5690
@gigachard5690 Жыл бұрын
Great rundown. I only really absorb a little of the home theatre knowledge at a time but its funny how even your interpretations of what experts or "so-called KZbin Experts" say that may be taken in a subjective way. Your explanation of how audio is subjective made me realize people who talk about audio being subjective isn't meant to say how we interpret it subjectively only, but also the environment and other factors that produce the subjective results. I particularly found it interesting his you mentioned how direct the speaker is with your ear that can influence what range of frequencies you want to consider when making adjustments. To tie it all in you mention the multiple drivers in each cone which really outlined my confusion as I used to judge the crossover mostly by the size of the outside of the speaker.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Hi! Yes, there are lots of factors that contribute to the subjective nature of this hobby. Another thing I didn't mention in this video is that I run power amplifiers for all my speakers. So when I have a speaker that can go down to 30Hz, my amplifier has no problems giving that extra juice for the speakers to handle the low frequencies in that range. If you are running an AVR only, it may be difficult for the AVR to provide extra power for those lower frequencies. My college and I created a new Home Theater product, and in this product, we dedicated a section on finding the correct Crossover Point for your speakers. This is specifically for a Dolby Atmos setup and it is based on what you hear through your system. Might make this topic easier to figure out - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH6XoqhuqJh5ac0
@truknetsoh
@truknetsoh 5 жыл бұрын
Hi techno. Great video. I'm have the svs ultra bookshelves with pb2000. What do you set your crossover for those.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Truk! Try 60Hz for the books and PB2000 LFE at 120.
@cristianbortos7757
@cristianbortos7757 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a Yamaha rx 685 reciever, and after the auto calibration my speakers are set to 40 hz, should I leave them like that? My speakers are bookshelf . Thank you!
@reisespieces1841
@reisespieces1841 2 жыл бұрын
Techno Dad, Love your videos as it helps me out a lot to understand surround sound better and make better overall decisions. So I have the following for my surround sound: Marantz 7706 Monoprice 9X Klipsch RP8000 Klipsch 504C Klipsch RP 500M Klipsch CDT-5650-C II for Atmos SVS PB 4000 What do you think would be the best crossover frequency for all my speakers? Room is 19’ across and 20’ in depth, with 10’ ceilings and about 17’ to the optimal seating position. I just received the SVS Pb 4000 so trying to fig that out as well. I like a lot of bass. Would love to hear your professional opinion as how to dial these speakers in. Thanks
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 5 жыл бұрын
I actually keep my center and surround channel crossover points up about 110 and redirect to give a bit more protection. And my mains and sub at 80. But I run a much larger set of subs than most people will ever imagine.. (2x18"s) My surrounds and center are probably large enough to handle the recommended 80, but the amp is not being offloaded on those channels.
@darthmaul13
@darthmaul13 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. After 20 years I had to replace my receiver. I got at Onkyo & have Bose speaker set up. My previous receiver didn’t have this cross over stuff. Should I set ALL speakers at 80hz crossover? Or the LFE at 80 & the F S C at 100?? Please help.
@NIAtoolkit
@NIAtoolkit 5 жыл бұрын
I output "full range" from the receiver/amp and let the built-in speaker crossovers do the work. If there's a LFE track, that goes straight to the subwoofers (also at full range).
@jimmythek750
@jimmythek750 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I just got a new sub and was recommended to set it to LFE. Too boomy and one note-ey. So set it to 120hz. Much better with more definition in the bass and not intruding on the upper mid bass.. Plus I got a "Y" splitter and fed the signal into both RCA inputs. Much more dynamic.
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Jimmy!
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean about them being boomy and one note when on LFE mode, thats because the subs crossover is disabled so you have no filtering at all..that 120hz setting Can be done either at the sub or in the receivers end under LFE low pass..you use one or the other, not both.. many audio techs recommend using that LFE in on the sub and setting the 120hz in ur receiver.. either way, same effect
@mangeshiyer4711
@mangeshiyer4711 8 ай бұрын
Nice knowledgeable video ❤
@samo8204
@samo8204 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Channa. I have this setup and would like/appreciate your opinion. RF-7IIIs, RC-64III, 4 RP-600M & 4 CDT5800s and a JTR 4000 sub. All running off a Marantz 8015. Right now I have everything crossed to the sub at 120Hz. Your thoughts?
@larrytan73
@larrytan73 2 жыл бұрын
My first time to your channel. Man you really helped me .
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome! And I’m glad I could help.
@TonyAguirreJazz
@TonyAguirreJazz Жыл бұрын
Great post! Super Helpful Also love that you are a DJ. My son is Surf Mesa
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Surf Mesa? No way! I was playing Marching Band in my weekly residency. What a small world. I’ll be starting my winter residency soon enough, I’ll have to pickup some of his new stuff. Thank you for the reminder 😉
@TonyAguirreJazz
@TonyAguirreJazz Жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDad Nice Channa! Keep up the great work! Love the videos
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