Is a Chinese pvt company ‘spying‘ on India, other democracies & what is 5th Generation Warfare (5GW)

#CutTheClutter
A global investigation has revealed how Chinese company Zhenhua has been mining big data from at least 24 lakh people living across democracies, 10,000 of them in India. In episode 567 of Cut The Clutter, Shekhar Gupta explains how this was done, caught & examines if it is spying or 5th Generation Warfare (5GW).
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[@sankalp6872]

Also, they are smart and extremely motivated. We must stop making fun of our enemy and start respecting his strengths.

[@sankalp6872]

​@Chirag Patel The same applies to India. We are way too good at many but way too stupid at so many. We complain about jobs and when someone tries to open a factory in our vicinity we sit on stupid dharnas. Of course, the environment is important but many of these protests are seldom linked to the environment.

[@ashmitsingh7426]

@abdullah tousif Osama shaheed 🚽🚽🇵🇰🇵🇰

[@Mniagmdmah]

@Chirag Patel no offense bro but have you forgotten how democratic USA invaded Iraq in the name of democracy yet is best friends with Saudi Arabia?

[@sankalp6872]

@@Mniagmdmah So they are hypocritical but suggest to me one person or a nation that is not a hypocrite?

[@sinatra7407]

Chinese have proved themselves, getting to where they have got to. They are powerful where it matters. Is India powerful? One day.

[@RohitSingh-it1mg]

Like how he has started mentioning UPSC these days. Haha! He know his audience well.

[@WOEEW]

the print has been the bread and butter of new generation upsc aspirants

[@UtsavHirvaniya]

Absolutely 😁

[@nehatiwari3908]

Nope, I am a scientist and still love to listen to him!

[@import_numpy_as_pd2330]

@@nehatiwari3908 Stop fooling urself Neha... u ain't no scientist.

[@nehatiwari3908]

@@import_numpy_as_pd2330ohh, I am no scientist.... Your comment is dope!!

[@Iamrrj1]

Appreciate the warning from Mr. Shekhar , " don't write this in upsc " 😂

[@rdc515]

Oh yes, these are great for learning How to think. My experience of upsc papers tell me they are not looking for independent thought but willingness to toe the official line. Those watching this for upsc prep will be disappointed but they're definitely gaining something lot more important

[@Abhishek-lm1gb]

I think if not in GS paper 3, we can include this in essay at least

[@Iamrrj1]

@@rjrocks249 he's not an area expert of warfare obviously. Being a journalist he's a generalist. And expects upsc aspirants don't take him by his words. As he might go here and there, from the perspective of precision required in upsc answers. But I believe the content and news he is giving should be very well understood by a common man.

[@Iamrrj1]

@@mahimatripathi1829 yeah

[@Iamrrj1]

@@mahimatripathi1829 2020

[@jeet3797]

Classroom professor: Big Data is characterized by Volume , Velocity, Veracity, Variety SG: Big Data is Everything - aaltu faaltu taam jhaam I think i will stick with the new definition from now on.

[@bbb7467]

When we used to define big data had this 5th V Value as well. Couldn't Stop laughing at this 5th V from the tone SG defined big data. 😂

[@aleemhaider8738]

Nice

[@arunkumars3007]

" Don't write this in upsc." - now that's a good disclaimer

[@Prigozhyn227]

Arunkumar S first 4 generation warfares are already coined by experts. 5th generation is coined by Mr Gupta ji that’s why....

[@Prigozhyn227]

No one ... hmm I see. I will look into it. If you got any link to it do share

[@suryavaliveti8355]

Every software engineer knows that this is a deliberate leak. How can anyone keep their db insecure, not to mention lack of encryption on that data.

[@rigvedshete45]

Yup , I think it's a show of power what they are doing here

[@freevoice8460]

In reality for most of the common citizens, it doesn't concern. Google, FB, and all social media and all cookies do it all the time. Data itself is going to be the biggest threat and there is nothing called a perfect encryption.

[@ranu__12]

If the db security is weak or deliberately kept weak ,a SQL injection is enough to fetch data ..

[@KM-ff2gm]

errmmmm...Sony?

[@yashgautam9470]

It's rare for companies whose main client is the military to have lax security measures.

[@jaswindersinghnarula4379]

We haven't been this much divided at anytime in our Indian history since Independence. The sooner we realize this, the better it will be for us and I'm glad Shekhar Sir that you keep on bringing this point whenever you can. And the TRP channels are to blame for that most.

[@prashantgupta5089]

Big data : "Aaltu , faltu ,taam jhaam" - funny but apt as well for sure :)

[@alja460]

UPSC aspirants run SG uncles business. He knows his audience very well

[@deenabandhu5526]

Happy to read a comment that strikes right with my thought. This man gupta is making fun of this country's intelligentsia. Believe to be the underdog of the present ruling dispensation. See how he acts without makeup and direction and screenplay. The Print is another tool of the ruling class. Look how many references he simply uselessly refer to. Those are all farce.

[@ambujsharma9185]

Hahaha all are now liking your comment @joe

[@ansh1861]

So unfortunate that instead of working and being productive the youth of our country waste off years of their lives reading about monsoon lol

[@zebaahsan7396]

Dear SG, the last story on the Hindi language actually got me so nostalgic. I remember, as a kid whenever we would go to Jorhat from Duliajan by road, we would listen to the radio during our journeys. Many times, the radio would catch the frequency coming in from China. I was genuinely surprised by the clarity with which the Chinese newsreaders were reading out news in Hindi. Coincidentally, today, i.e., 14 September is celebrated as Hindi Diwas. I guess this was part of some diplomatic relations as language and films are soft power tactics. My parents said that this was nothing new. The radio signal was the strongest whenever we crossed the AIR station in Dibrugarh. I am writing this intentionally so that readers here can visualise the India-China map! :) Also, nearby Arunachal Pradesh has some of the highest Hindi speakers (the tribal population speaks very good Hindi unlike the other North-Eastern states) in NE India and it is directly bordering China.

[@pratiush1000]

Shekhar sir, I am a fan of your journalism and got the opportunity to meet you briefly at IIT Guwahati. You need to understand the pattern of UPSC and the kind of questions their syllabus and question types mostly promote 'rote learning' (for prelims) and the kind of answers they want (for mains), aspirants are trained by institutes or on various other channels on KZbin. Please don't think about how it could be useful to UPSC aspirants. Your analysis and journalism is way more valuable to other kind of audiences. On the fact part, Babur had cannons which were relatively new at that time, Lodhi didn't have that technology, it wasn't the battle between armies of similar technology. Plus, some research says, kings of Bahamani Kingdom in South India also had muskets, that's before Babur came (there is an influential research paper of 1981 on this). But yeah, full fledged use of muskats came later.

[@tariqazizsofi7875]

SG, it wasn’t the Chinese. It was an Australian analysts who first discovered that exercise data released by Strava(Fitness app) could be used to locate and even map the military bases. It even exposed some hidden military bases.

[@tariqazizsofi7875]

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracking-app-gives-away-location-of-secret-us-army-bases Here’s an article for curious people out there.

[@bhogarajulohit7538]

I love SG’s stories! He should do a podcast with his stories

[@sr4281]

A Chinese firm is called a “Patriotic Firm” but If it is an Indian organization, it would have been labeled “ Hyper Nationalistic”

[@abhayagarwal2381]

Just we r a open society and we don't believe in interfering with personal liberty of people. Will u like if the govt collect data on you ur family food places u go.. N then use to try u for a crime.

[@migmalama6107]

There is nothing to spy about India.Everbody knows about India very well.😁😁

[@brisingr12]

But how about you, dear. You don't know what I know about what you don't even know. Very well 👾

[@sourabhdas615]

Exactly 😁 everything is on internet too daily

[@apunay7959]

I want to know the names of Modi's peacocks.😁

[@sourabhdas615]

@@apunay7959 it's called Wumao😁

[@apunay7959]

@@sourabhdas615 What about the names of the other 5? According to Chinese data, he has 6 peacocks.

[@rnrmenon2122]

Superlative compilation. No other words for it! Thanks for increasing viewers cognizance on absolutely shocking matters.

[@jiawencheong400]

Sir, as a recent subscriber, thank you for all your insightful analyses. I fully agree with your final statement. Exactly because of their differences, Indians needs to learn more, not less, about China and Chinese culture. Similarly, the Chinese need to learn more, not less, about India and Indian culture. Only then can both sides start to understand and appreciate each other. With understanding comes trust, with trust comes peace, and with peace comes friendship. As someone active on both English and Chinese social media and who has close friends from both countries, it is disheartening to read the amount of suspicion/scorn/misunderstandings that nationalists/chauvinists in both countries have for each other. India and China are two great cradles of Asian civilization, each filled with many millennia of wisdom and philosophy and arts and culture. They should see each other not as competitors, but as sources of mutual learning and cooperation. In fact, I believe with more chances to interact harmoniously, the two peoples will find that they have much more in common than differences. That, at least, is my (naive?) wish for the 3 billion Indians and Chinese in the world. Peace to everyone.

[@ArghyadeepPal]

Good to see such a friendly analysis from you Jiawen. I hope more people follow whatever you discussed in your comment. Cheers from India..

[@sourabhdas615]

R you from main land China

[@sourabhdas615]

Anyone who started conflict between this two ancient civilization r historical sinners ...hope you know who started with huge insurgency in NEFA from 1953s

[@apunay7959]

In to say Hi before the RSS troopers come in.😁

[@bhavyajain3655]

I thinks it's high time India stops playing goody in two shoes and fight the war in their way. Give them the taste of their own medicine.

[@NaCl_Salt]

India is not being goody two shoes, we are just distracted with unnecessary issues like SSR suicide and adopting desi breed dogs.

[@Abhishek-lm1gb]

Haha.. SG warning like an old and experienced professor: 'don't write this in UPSC'. Lol.

[@vishantpatel6990]

We need journalists like SG who can keep the govt on its toes. Its so refreshing to watch these videos as you get to learn so many things and the icing on the cake are SG’s short stories. Cut the clutter is interesting because SG brings decades of experience into play.👍🏼

[@lawlearnerseducatingindia2822]

Shekhar sir knows it well...... UPSC aspirants eagerly wait for his analysis....... You never know The Print might have already replaced the other cliched papers as a source of editorials.....

[@unknownworries3507]

I'm big fan of modi, I still follow him. There is nothing wrong to get right news from right person. Even news is not according to your taste.

[@Manish_Kumar_Singh]

wait ........whaaat ??? do right wingers have to not read print ?, i never knew i always vote bjp

[@sudhir2854]

@@Manish_Kumar_Singh Yes, I am too Modi supporter, but watch SG daily.

[@amjs3149]

What does this have to do with Modi or BJP? Oh I see not those competent media stories here like arnab, sudhir chaudhry etc..

[@unknownworries3507]

u don't need to apologize for your username. There is nothing wrong with your username. It is a bitter truth.

[@monikaghosh813]

Data is the new oil. Being a data scientist myself, I can say that it does have a potential of turning tables even in the desperate times if used responsibly. Thank you Shekhar sir for this eye opener.

[@rosecherryahnlily]

1:24 cracked me up!!! Lol my upsc notes consists of a lot of information I've scraped from your cut the clutter!!!! Sir you know your audience!

[@torukmakto2181]

The next generation soldiers are going to be hackers & gamers.

[@relaxationhub4661]

Agree

[@Antony_Shamarjit_Lee]

Gamers ? How ??

[@adwaitsingh222]

I stopped watching "big picture" and switched to "cut the clutter".😂😂

[@arnavbhagwat4232]

Thank God I found this channel...don't have to watch TV 'journalists' screaming at each other anymore...

[@AnirudhKapoor90]

Thanks so much Shekar Sir for talking about generations of warfare. If anyone is reading this. Every Man's War by Capt. Raghu is one stop shop to understand India's War in Cyberspace.

[@cvsarat]

Shekhar- I must confess that you are the Sadhguru of Indian Journalism. Keep Going Sir.

[@asish-b9z]

Spying Before 1st gen war: looking through the holes cut through newspaper🤣🤣🤣

[@travellerlife5522]

China is doing it internationally but in our country one political party does this to destroy other parties. How far these two are different ?

[@iamcoolinmay1]

SG sir is a journalist of journalists...a lot of learning comes from every episode...internal cohesion is something which was talked about in NI as well...I hope the message reaches them sooner than later...:)

[@sankalpdravid]

Bang on! Start studying China and the Chinese more! Know your adversary as much as you know yourself!

[@ritayan1991]

Cut the Clutter and Pure Science the growing fodder for CS aspirants, and The Print recognising that!!

[@arnabdutta9326]

Very nice elaboration. Thank you SG!

[@arunkhanna341]

Insightful ,as always, a pleasure to listen to, and your stories are the extra kick that revives it all..

[@tariqazizsofi7875]

And that’s how they polarise the societies of their adversaries. That’s pretty tough competition for IT Cells from China.

[@brisingr12]

Bhakti will be tested now. The test is in Mandarin.

[@shubs3566]

@@brisingr12 I have a Chinese poodle. It barks too much.

[@sourabhdas615]

@@brisingr12 tweets can be translated

[@fareedhussain59]

Americans and British intelligence agencies have done the same for years. Its just that so far it was all one way traffic from west to east and now it looks as if China has learnt the same tricks and may be in position to turn the table on the west.

[@ManpreetSingh-hx2ul]

It's great that you cover SSR case just once or twice in your Cutt the clutter(CTC). Only one credible journalist I know in india is that you.

[@tareqsaleem2029]

As you mentioned Chinese in kabbadi match I met the guy in Chinese embassy in Arab country and he speaks fluent Arabic than English and our embassy in Jordan don’t know much of their language who visit their embassy for visa for medical tourism.

[@akash1061991]

One episode is needed for current unemployment condition in the country. And adding details like how many total governmental vacancies are there in country and how many are vacant and why the vacant seats are not being filled.

[@zorawarsekhon8556]

Loved the Episode shekhar sir.

[@TeluguBusinessChannel]

Upsc aspirants got disappointed because SG didn't use the phrase - 'Hybrid Warfare' !

[@DS-ov6lm]

Shekhar Gupta: Big Data is Aaltu faaltu taam jhaam Me: *Cries in Hadoop*

[@shamnadismail]

this is nothing new because as long as you are in internet your privacy gone. every IT Professional aware of this and there is no concept of full secure system as of now

[@monishkapur945]

Superb review explanation well done mate

[@patelmiki]

If you see Chinese are everywhere in all competitive programming challenges. If you see winners and their country flag , Even in a small scale coding competition, you can easily guess which countries have bright future ahead. Chinese are best in AI and we need to create infrastructure for it rapidly. I am happy that gov allocated $1.12 billion budget for quantum computing. I would love to see one cut the clutter episode on quantum computing and it’s future in India .

[@eternaldp]

Dear sir ,one of the best things about cut the clutter is your beautiful farm house...I always get positive Vibes,it seems we are in the lap of nature finding some tranquility and solace

[@salmanahmad1781]

Very good excellent keep it up Hoping this will force hindutva to end divisive politics

[@manavbahri9867]

India is IT giant. But we rarely hear about Indian IT prowess to fight our traditional adversaries like Pakistan & China. IT and Artillery can be the edge that India needs... Request you do a Cut the Clutter on IT, AI enabled Guns, Drones, miniaturization of weapons etc

[@harveyliuistrong9669]

India is IT giant internationally, but IT dwarf domestically. This is called bipolar disorder.

[@minaamq]

To all the people who get aggresive about the political situation of India: "Mere bade bhai, aap itna krodhit na hon. Ye toh Politics hai, isme haar jeet toh lagi hi rehti hai"

[@dibyajyotidas5239]

"Big Data is aaltu faaltu tam jham that happens in everybody's life" He killed the data mining concept😂

[@naturelover8121]

I am already into learning Chinese ... actually I was learning Korean and I came across one Chinese language video ..and I thought I really should know more about these people ...since they are our notorious neighbours ....

[@dalwanir]

Thank you Shekhar, good episode; good de-cluttering exercise. Can I repeat my request of an episode on British Gov trying to dishonor international treaty... it has got response from US and EU. Number one talk in Europe for last few days

[@GummadivalliShivaKumar]

China doesn't work as a regular country. Their military's allegiance is towards a political party (The CCP) and not directly to the Nation (PRC)... This makes up for some weird outcomes and dangerous consequences. CCP has a complete political monopoly, and Xi is now trying extremely hard to consolidate his power in the party (Jiang Zemin is now old but his faction is still trying hard). Hope to see more about Indo-China relations on The Print and #CutTheClutter

[@kumarprasad152]

Some Indians are also experts on big data. Most Indian mobile repair shops run file recovery software on mobile storage in search of some homemade... you know what I mean and upload to XV and PH. Indians are already on the 8th and 9th Gen war within India.

[@shrutipathak1234]

Mr Shekhar Gupta, when can I expect a cut the clutter on current Covid status in Maharashtra since it is the worst affected state by far? And other related things happening in Maharashtra. government?

[@YogeshSingh-uo2xg]

What you are telling about the fifth generation Warfare is something that Britishers did with India, the difference is only without the use of Technology.

[@doron3075]

One Suggestion, U should have covered the Tick-tock , PUBG ban vis a vis the 5tg Generation warfare...it used to be conspiracy theory, but seems there was definitely something fishy in Chinese apps ..

[@odangeraier4821]

Spying through two holes cut in the newspaper.. cracked me up😂

[@assamantaamal]

That's a great exposure Sir! You have enlightened us on the subject!

[@Pjradha]

Hope the People now come to know better about China! CPI & CPIM need to be banned.

[@vinamrasinghai2339]

In a democracy you cannot do so, liberals and Muslims are going to be exploited by China to destabilize countries.

[@livefreetodiehard2550]

@Chirag Patel communism is a good ideology and whats happening in china is not communism.

[@Valkyri3Z]

@@vinamrasinghai2339 If there is ANY ideology in India that can yield massive benefits for China by manipulating its the RSS and Hindutva ideology. They have huge manpower and they already destabilizing India in a mass scale. All Chinese need is to turn every single Hindu in hate mongering bigot. Job is done. When you have a pool of 80% majority population already radicalized for vote bank why China will go after few peanuts like communists and Muslims. HAHAHAHA RSS is already destroying India beyond your imagination.

[@Valkyri3Z]

@@HimanshuSharma-oe4mk So every month we are seeing mass killings and rioting in India done by RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal , Gaurakshaks , Hindu Yuva Bahnini etc etc and YET Communists are your enemy. WELL , congratulations , you have already helped China by doing this. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@livefreetodiehard2550]

@Chirag Patel how is this a islamic experiment. What kind of induced paranoia are you suffering?

[@akshay_wakodikar]

Gupta ji is a genius. Kuch din pahle foreign minister ne bhi bola we need to study Chinese and Chinese mentality more..

[@adityasharma2k]

Must watch documentary on Netflix "social dilemma "

[@AayushSaxena100]

I did that yesterday and also commented the same on this video before seeing this comment. Update: Now I see a lot more comments about the documentary.

[@adityasharma2k]

@@AayushSaxena100 sach mein yaar faadu documentary he....after watching it I feel like we are in a MATRIX controlled by machines

[@markonikof]

Please talk about UAPA and the number of people arrested... Unlawfully.. including Umar Khalid

[@abhishektoshniwal3821]

This was an exceptionally fascinating CTC.

[@Jai_Maharashtra.]

Sir, As you mentionyour experience about Chinese talking Hindi, the same happened with me when I was in Shanghai when me and my friend were shopping and were using colorful hindi on Prices quoted by them, and all of sudden a lady spoke very fluent hindi, and we felt like same -30°C temp.

[@udayviruppal3730]

We need to ask our govt. how were Xiaomi ,Huawei , One Plus smartphones were allowed in india and no Data Security and Privacy laws made even as the Chinese were snooping around....

[@ajaybansal4889]

you are a primary key... Remember what you can do with tech in your hand... hint just search a product, any product not only facebook but google even amazon will start showing ads (personalized ads if you enable it) youtube history that effects you and provide you recommendation!!!

[@nelsoncordeiro9]

Camera quality is very good comparing with the revious videos.

[@sauravabc16]

The Chinese definitely want more people learning mandarin. I can say this because there is Chinese language center in my college where Chinese government sponsors people who learn Chinese. They even have Chinese speaking teachers from China for good learning experience. As SG says I hope more people are encouraged to learn more about Chinese culture and mindset. I'm afraid the opposite might happen.

[@nrusimha11]

Frankly, this shouldn't surprise UPSC aspirants. And not just China. It would be disappointing if India were not doing this already, and not just with China.

[@arunbhatia6344]

Fantastic talk and great insights !

[@SubhomoyRoy5678]

A great great piece.. Great effort sir...

[@swarupkumar2]

ending tag line: "Keyboard Warriors ASSEMBLE"

[@keshava470]

If a whole generation of Indians prepare for UPSC for just 1 year. There will be a leap in social development

[@shaunsingh6844]

Sir please do a cut the clutter on the three farm ordinances.

[@rambalram2610]

Which generation warfare would Blue water Navy and Trojan Horse Fall ???

[@saketsingh9999]

Indian Forces past 25 yrs warned the gov. on the information warfare in future. Luckily Armed forces knew about this nd they handle this very well.

[@shrawankumar-yp4xs]

we are still not fully prepared for 3rd generation warfare....Chinese are in the front of 5th generation

[@padminisankar6071]

As usual there is a message in each anecdote👌 Will our language fanatics allow us to learn foreign languages on a large scale!

[@9211vishu]

Why the Chinese trying so hard??? If they just want to know which group is Anti-India, they just have to check the comment section of The Print Facebook page. And they will get a clear cut idea.

[@vinamrasinghai2339]

They just wanted to know what is the best time to target India internally.

[@Valkyri3Z]

They just want to know who are the people who uses words like 'anti India' , 'anti national', 'Corona jihad' , UPSC jihad etc etc. Because those are the people who are the stupidest, most ignorant , most uneducated and lowest IQ HENCE easiest to manipulate. LOL

[@Jhonnycomelate]

Need to ban Chinese apps and hardwares ASAP

[@STPT-SaiBaba]

Great insight and suggestion. Hope someone is listening.

[@dhruvvyas3786]

In the games like"Mobile Legends" and "PUBG" which has Chinese origin, the game has a feature to submit your locality data (city name, village name, district name etc.) so that players can see what is their ranking in their own local area and also their ranking in their own state. But if you think in terms of where dose these all data goes? You will find it all goes back to china.

[@trranjith1247]

Such quality journalism @ThePrint! Need more stories on china from The print.

[@tusharsohale6894]

Everyone should watch The Social Dilemma. Documentary on Netflix. How Internet Companies are using Human Psychology against us.

[@sabertooth207]

How Americans felt about Soviets in 1960s.

[@shrinisingh8137]

I never aspired for UPSC. This comment section makes me regret my life choices! (😅😅)

[@sukantobiswas5725]

Splendid..... As always

[@tareqsaleem2029]

Very good topics and somehow interesting to know the politics of countries, do you have any knowledge of indian companies doing the same Big Data collection(amka dhamka altu faltu) for outsiders as well as Indians after all we are the one running major IT companies and plus when we have too much to share on every occasion for sure companies n Govt agencies have all our secrets from bio metrics to retinas adhars n kycs.

[@RohanKumar-qq5ye]

kindly share name of the book that you are going to explore

[@freevoice8460]

In reality for most of the common citizens, it doesn't concern. Google, FB, and all social media and all cookies do it all the time. Data itself is going to be the biggest threat and there is nothing called a perfect encryption.

[@asif09ansari]

By this definition USSR was already at 5G way before anyone else. Call this 6G, a digital warfare.

[@abhiramkaushik3312]

What can I say some great man said " Data is new oil"

[@x3nn0n]

It wasn't a man. It was a woman- Ann Winblad, who is a renowned investor.

[@arshreetsingh3828]

you are truly helping me with my upsc!

[@surajs5913]

9:29 shekharji the primary reason for all this ruckus around huawei and 5g was centred around the possibility of disclosure of private information of citizens by chinese MNC to the CCP. Policymakers have taken note of these chinese legislations but creating popular public opinion against china was difficult until the current pandemic...

[@soorajksmenon]

Very interesting! However my question is, did we get to know about the rule which the Chinese passed regarding the use of data from their companies just now? Or was this ignored? Does these kind of rules exist in any democratic country? Also Shekar sir, we would like to hear these kind of experiences 😊

[@rishabhsinghparihar7651]

everything shekhar talking about, the scenario was pretty much written in noah harari book