Is A Diesel Worth The Cost? - Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel

Is the cost of a diesel engine option worth it? See my reasons in this video on the 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel & let me know your thoughts in the comments!
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[@borzica]

Just drove the gas engine and diesel back to back and I have to say, I much prefer the torquey diesel engine. That baby pulls!

[@CarGuy11]

Sure does once it hits boost!

[@shstoelting]

I have used my 2018 JGC EcoDiesel for towing many times when when I moved to another state last year, towing a 15’ enclosed trailer full of furniture, I had more than enough power to pull the trailer. And shockingly I got about 26-28 mpg on my 7 hour highway driving trip keeping my speed between 60-65 mph.

[@shiningstaer]

Would you buy a 2016 v6 with 49k or a 2016 summit with the diesel with 70k?? 5k price difference

[@paladin3116]

@@shiningstaer why in the hell would you spend 49k for a fiat/crystler product? These things are a cheap plastic junk

[@Adorador247]

@@paladin3116 does are miles not price lol

[@mooauto2388]

Loved the video what thing failed so far any issues ?

[@surgpsych]

I also own a 2018 (single owner) and agree with comments below. Suburb driving ~23mpg/28-30 hwy/ 17-18 pulling 6200 lb RV (I use Sport mode for towing, as it’s easier to pass big rigs). Drives beautifully. If not towing, I can drive from Fort Worth, to Galveston and back on one tank of gas!! Beat that! And why would anyone use adaptive drive in stop and go traffic??

[@CarGuy11]

Haha that’s the best part of acc!

[@desertdetroiter428]

Yep. The JGC with Ecodiesel is the greatest midsize SUV in history as far as I’m concerned. What’s better? What else in its class will tow 7400 lbs, get small SUV fuel mileage, go 700 miles on one tank, has good fit and finish, massive torque numbers, adequate space, and excellent ground clearance. And by buying my 2015 one year later, used, I avoided the $5000 premium price of the diesel engine.

[@normgaby780]

Ok​@@desertdetroiter428

[@Itsallhood]

Acc should not be used in heavy stop and go traffic . Adaptive Cruise control not adaptive stop and go control

[@MrSnookerballs]

take it out of eco mode and throttle response and turbo lag will be improved. why do a review on a vehicle you don't know nothing about.

[@louis6.4L]

In sports mode, 2018 3.0 litre turbo diesel Summit moves very quickly with very little turbo lag. I’m averaging 31 mpg also. Awesome SUV.

[@CarGuy11]

Nice!

[@TheV3la]

Jeez might get that

[@sportscardude]

Damn dude! My 15 Summit 4x4 diesel is averaging about 22.5 mpg.

[@Vziera]

@@sportscardude my 15 overland does about the same

[@user-mv3rw9lt7t]

Is that on the freeway or just your average for city and freeway?

[@charlesjohnsawicki8657]

The $5,000 price tag is more than just getting the engine suspension is beefed up to handle the added weight of the engine and there is also sway equipment that helps in towing situations it's much heavier vehicle approximately 800 lb than the typical Jeep Grand Cherokee it takes the rough terrain much better as well as some highway roads that are not in the best repair. I use my Grand Cherokee to tow a 28-ft Airstream with a gross vehicle weight of 6800 lb and the engine with its incredible torque of 200 foot-pounds makes it a breeze towing there's Auto braking with the diesel which is a nice feature if you're going down a grade for a long period of time. I am sold on the diesel and the transmission German made Zurth is hard to compete with.

[@CarGuy11]

Nice thanks for sharing!

[@Rzazigzag]

200 ft pounds?

[@maybelive765]

Here in Canada, diesel prices are closer to 87 octane prices. Furthermore, if you compare a diesel engine to a Hemi dodge, the price starts to make sense, especially that you could theoretically pull about the same load. So although soccer moms probably cant explain the price difference between a base V6 Dodge/Jeep SUV and an ecodiesel, it makes total sense for a Chad father that tows his small loads around and wants a bit of pull in the corners all while paying approx. the same price as a base model on the used market for one of these.

[@Richie80]

Love my 2018 put 10,000 miles on it in 6months and average 27mpg and not one problem so far

[@CarGuy11]

Great!

[@kelvinstrickland7442]

The review says 17 miles to the gallon average. How are you getting 27 miles to the gallon average? Did the test vehicle driver make a mistake when he said 17 Average Mile Per Gallon? That's Confusing that your getting 10 miles per gallon more than the same engine in the test.

[@Alex-pv6vb]

Please provide updates on the engine, I want one!

[@hellomynameis-ue7tc]

Just a note, you do not drive a diesel the same way as a gas car, as in gas and breaking. Having a heavy foot in a diesel will cost you all around.

[@Strandedinthedesert]

This “review” was horrible...

[@arischreiber2213]

My wife thought it was laggy too in her Overland. Got a throttle sensitivity booster and its a totally new truck. Put one on my 08 Hemi Overland and I can chirp the tires now! Crazy enhancement for a couple of hundred bucks.

[@CarGuy11]

Ok nice!

[@mr.dorsey66]

Brother this is what I been looking for. Thanks

[@arischreiber2213]

@@mr.dorsey66 For sure get a BD Throttle Booster. It's a game changer for any Hemi or Diesel. Just be careful in Ludacris mode because it reacts lighting quick. Happy travels and safe motoring.

[@johntieszen3132]

My 2015 gets 32 mpg on highway and can pull enclosed car hauler gets 15 mpg No vehicle out their in this size with this power to pull and the air bag suspension is better than any pickup on the road.

[@CarGuy11]

Nice!

[@ttime411bmw]

I’m glad I got the diesel for sure, gas in SoCal at times diesel is the price of 87, def fluid is pretty cheap, most gas stations have diesel you don’t have to hit a truck stop, plus you can modify the diesel a lot easier than the 3.6 gas, gas mileage with a lift is about 21city, easy 30 on the highway still

[@CarGuy11]

Nice thanks for the feedback!

[@jakendrickilbert2281]

How’s the maintenance doe

[@strafe501]

Adaptive cruise is dangerous to begin with, I like that it wont hold the brakes for you. Maybe more people will pay attention. Most modern driver aids create unsafe driving habits.

[@brucewhite7069]

Are diesel engines known to get a million miles on them that would be worth a extra 5,000

[@CarGuy11]

This is true but not sure these light duty diesels will.

[@JG-nk7ld]

@@CarGuy11 I have a "light duty" 2.8L in the liberty and over 210k miles still going strong. Diesels over any gas engine are absolutely worth it if you plan on keeping the car/truck past 200-300k miles

[@shiningstaer]

Really??

[@peeinginthewind]

Transmission won’t

[@Billysbreakdowns]

In this case the only way to get an well over the 200k range is to do one of two things. EITHER remove the DEF/EGR system that causes soot to get recirculated into the engine, which causes it to gunk up and die over time (yes this voids your warranty essentially) OR The smart and safest way which also DOES NOT void warranty, and install a complete Banks performance Derringer system. That system not only improves the power and fuel economy, it also tunes it to run so perfectly it eliminated the soot from building in the engine. With that and proper fuel system maint you can expect your engine and trans to outlast the suspension and most other parts, but if you're like me and prefer to replace the suspension every 100-150k, then you have yourself it's reasonable to plan to keep her till 400-500k miles.

[@hellomynameis-ue7tc]

Loved this video!

[@CarGuy11]

Thanks for watching!

[@swampsnipe8790]

I have the 3.0 GC Summit Turbo Diesel and easily get 31 highway. Getting about 24 combined City/highway in the winter months

[@CarGuy11]

Ok thanks for posting.

[@jajablonsky]

I have 58,000 miles on my diesel Grand Cherokee and only filled the DEF 4 times. On the open road I average 32MPG, usually with a pretty full load. Great mileage and torque. On the flip side, if you get a diesel, you have to smog it every other year. You don't get the first 5 year grace period as you do with a gasoline engine. Oil changes are more expensive but if you do a lot of highway driving you can get 10,000 miles between changes. Changing headlight bulbs and the battery are a pain in the backside. You really need small hands to get into the small compartment areas.

[@CarGuy11]

Great mpg! Thanks for sharing!

[@johnnybikesalot]

"On the flip side, if you get a diesel, you have to smog it every other year. You don't get the first 5 year grace period as you do with a gasoline engine." What does that mean?

[@jajablonsky]

@@johnnybikesalot In California you have to smog your vehicle every other year depending on the last digit of the VIN. Even on even years and odd on odd years. If you buy a new gasoline vehicle, you don't have to smog the vehicle until after the 5th year. A diesel, you don't get that 5 year new vehicle exemption.

[@johnnybikesalot]

@@jajablonsky What is "smogging" a vehicle? I've never heard that term before.

[@jajablonsky]

@@johnnybikesalot I know a lot of states/countries don't have smog regulations. In California, a vehicle has to be "smog" tested every other year to make sure the vehicle hasn't been modified from the manufactures specifications for exhaust emissions. The vehicle is hooked up to an electronic monitoring machine which checks all components of the engine and exhaust system. The exhaust system is checked with a probe to check the amount of exhaust carbons/etc that are being emitted into the atmosphere. You can't get your vehicle registered until you have had the vehicle tested and pass the states minimum requirements for the vehicle. Has to do with clean air exhaust to keep the atmosphere air clean. Hence, the reason why diesel engines have to use DEF fluids to clean the exhaust systems of diesel running vehicles. In the past, a diesel only had to be "smoke" tested to make sure it didn't blow out excessive amounts of diesel exhaust smoke into the atmosphere. I hope I answered your question satisfactorily. California has very strict vehicle emissions standards.

[@nismonissan87]

Dpf delete would help performance

[@ashleytay1763]

Anyone with a diesel, I’ve been looking into buying one, but I got in one and the smell of diesel was super strong. Is it strong for you guys or as you drive it more (besides getting used to it), how is the smell and is it to the point where it bothers you?

[@TheAeroegg]

Must be a problem with the diesel vehicle you got in. I'm the original owner of a 2016 Jeep diesel and never had an issue with the smell of diesel.

[@baihunt]

I have a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0L Turbo and I haven’t ever had a diesel smell.

[@nickfox7413]

Did you buy one yet? I have a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 crd that might go up for sale eventually

[@Metdav07770]

You dont let these new diesel warmup. Just start give it a minute and drive. Idling would fill up your filter very quick.

[@CarGuy11]

Ok but did it to get heat in cabin.

[@Metdav07770]

@@CarGuy11 nope. Heated seats and steering wheels. You put it on windshield defroster while driving 10 mns you should have heat. I'm just telling how to save money from going to your dealership

[@chrishansen8026]

Can confirm. I’ve had mine clog up several times even from just driving small trips around town. Absolute pain to deal with sometimes

[@Metdav07770]

@@chrishansen8026 sorry to hear that. Delete is the best thing for diesel. Mine haven't shown any sign of regen maybe because I drive 30 mi of freeway everyday.

[@djp1234]

It's the ultimate best engine you can put in an SUV.

[@CarGuy11]

👍

[@loribardell]

Know anything about the 2016? Worth buying am older model?

[@djp1234]

@@loribardell I know that the previous generation ecodiesels had a recall and got reprogrammed by the manufacturer. I think the recall made them less fuel efficient and caused some other issues. My friend has a 2016 ecodiesel and when we went offroading, he got a message pop up saying that he needs to take the car on the highway or else the EGR will get clogged up or something like that. So that’s why I’m waiting for the new grand Cherokee with the new generation ecodiesel engine. They’re already selling it in the Wrangler & Gladiator.

[@FunnierK]

not the best engine lol, there is a lot of blown engines not even making 100k miles, but hey, could be worse

[@joemessman1]

What about maintenance costs and durability between the diesel and gas engines on the Jeep? Thanks.

[@CarGuy11]

Maintenance about the same except for addition of DEF fluid. Durability is questionable on these light duty diesels.

[@fishmanbatzwc]

I have 30k miles on a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee with this diesel. Every other oil change you’ll have 300$ for fuel filters. Then you’ll get a keep driving at highway speeds notice for regen when you’ve been out all day and are a mile from home. It’s super annoying. And finally just had the check engine light come on yesterday. Starting to get nervous about this thing...

[@Richie80]

If you are paying $300 for fuel filter you are getting stuffed

[@playnicebegoodtoothers6944]

Jon Meyer thankfully at 30k your still under warranty. I had two sensors (def and another) go out around 60k miles and that was about $1200. But I got some money out of the Ecodiesel settlement so I got it back.

[@carspottin_kj]

Don't the US versions have different hp and torque numbers? I checked on Wikipedia

[@CarGuy11]

Hmm not sure actually.

[@loribardell]

I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia as a competent resource.

[@spacelover9635]

Is the 3.0 ecodiesel 2015 jeep grand cherokee reliable? Please answer man causs i will buy a 2015 3.0 ecodiesel jeep and i cant chose

[@CarGuy11]

I don’t own one but check out the other comments.

[@spacelover9635]

@@CarGuy11 is the ecodiesel engine reliable? What is the diffrenrence between 3.0 ecodiesel and 3.0 multijet

[@MrSnookerballs]

@@spacelover9635 both the same. it's a Fiat multijet engine which is ECOnomical

[@spacelover9635]

@@MrSnookerballs whata about jeep grand cherokee 2014 ecodiesel engine vs 3.0 Crd?

[@kelvinstrickland7442]

I have a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with a 4 inch lift And 33 inch× 12..5 tires R17 rims with quadratrack 11 and 4.0 l6 engine and I'm getting 13 miles average and 16.4 miles per gallon highway in a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo and I was looking to by a Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 3.0 litre diesel but not going to buy a diesel that is getting close to the miles per gallon I'm getting now so Thank you for this video. My Mind Says No To The Diesel, Just not worth it and my jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo is mint condition with 130000 miles and drives like new still.

[@shiningstaer]

Would y’all take a 2016 grand Cherokee limited 3.2Lv6 with 49k for 27 grand, or this a 2016 grand Cherokee summit with a diesel with 70k at 33 grand????

[@Al-qn3sj]

I would take the diesel everyday over the 3.2L V6

[@shiningstaer]

@@Al-qn3sj got it! It’s sweet, i want to do a few upgrades over time. But real nice.

[@xkv8rop]

I did a K&N cold air intake (63-1570) and have noticed a massive difference in pick up off the line. Will be doing a tune too but make sure you go to a shop that knows what they’re doing or you will have problems.

[@INFINITE-AMMO]

@@shiningstaer updates? I want to get a 2014 summit but I don't know if I want the 3.6L V6 or the 3.0L Turbo Diesel. The Diesel cost $1,700 more

[@philliplugo1593]

You don't need fuel savings to recruit the $5,000 up charge it's lower maintenance will last way longer and what you're forgetting is when you go to sell the car it's worth 3 to $5,000 more

[@CristoferMagana]

Actually around here it goes for about 1 grand less than the 5.7 hemi

[@franciscomendoza5252]

Love Diesel's wish they made more.

[@seanevans162]

Does it smell like diesel like other diesel vehicles?

[@CarGuy11]

Yes but not as bad as older vehicles.

[@PAPABEAR_OMG]

I get 16.7 MPG in my 3.6 v6 so it varies

[@MX-Mug]

Don’t buy a vehicle with this engine, my 2019 GC Summit just spun its main bearings at 55000 miles and yes I have had it serviced to schedule with the correct Fiat spec oil, it’s a major design flaw and Jeep keep sticking their heads in the sand.

[@gsingh5402]

Ugh i want this to not be true. They're such nice looking and sounding!

[@shstoelting]

I own a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel and I agree that with city driving it’s not worth the extra cost but most of my driving is on the highway and I average between 30-32 mpg with keeping my speed between 65-68 mph. I purchased new 31-Oct-2018 and I have 45,xxx miles. The only major issue I have had is with poor quality diesel. I have filled my tank on 3 separate occasions at a certain regional chain of gas stations and my fuel-water separator completely filled and my Jeep stopped on side of the road and I had to call for a tow. So therefore I no longer purchase diesel from this particular gas station chain. The DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) is about $10 for a 2 gal can and the Jeep holds approx 6 gal of DEF. I have to add DEF about every 10-12k miles.

[@CarGuy11]

Good deal. Thanks for the info!

[@shstoelting]

I have experienced that when it comes to highway and interstate driving if I keep my speed between 74 and 77 mph my MPG dramatically drops to well below 30, but if I keep my speed between 65 and 68 mph, then I receive optimal MPG. I have tested this many times with the same results. So the key factor to justify the additional expense of the EcoDiesel is A:) towing where the additional power is needed and/or B:) highway driving at the speeds previously mentioned. If either of those 2 criteria are met then it is my opinion the additional investment of $5k will eventually pay off. Also, the large fuel tank allows you to drive up to 800 miles on a tank of diesel.

[@mattstephens3435]

Mike S mind sharing me what fuel company you’re referring too. So I can avoid as well. We’ve had a similar issue with our throttle ignition and been stranded 4 times now all having to being towed in. Other than that the long trips we can do on the highway is awesome seeing family in other states.

[@xkv8rop]

Completely agree. Don’t think it’s worth it in the city but the majority of my driving is hwy and can’t speak highly enough about the fuel economy and pull while passing. Did a 1200km drive last week and at one point I was doing 135km/hr at 7L/100km cruising. That’s about 33mpg at 75-80miles/hr

[@EvolverGlass]

Yes feel free to call these guys out?? So we can all avoid it, no time to be polite when so many of these stations are passing off watered down fuel because of whatever reason. QT is notorious, you get what you pay for and I always only fill up at the big 3 if Im not near costco...sadly they dont have diesel.

[@viking100033]

I don't understand how the hell you end up with 19 MPG on it I have 2019 diesel and lowest I had was 23 which was achieved in stop and go traffic with maximum speed up to 15 mph. Also talking about turbo lag it is such a short period of time that you barley notice it because of the very short first gear. Another thing you mentioned was fluid for emissions which you refill every 10000 miles not 500 and it is nothing. This car has only one irritating issue which is regeneration cycle that happens in intervals between 500 to 2000 miles and the problem with that is you have to keep going preferably on FWY until it is completed or if you don't you will end up with car going into limp mode and pricey trip to a dealer where they will charge you 500$ for turning on DPF regeneration cycle manually and completing it. Besides that problem eco diesel is an incredible engine for this car because it delivers great fuel economy with nice power output and this engine has another advantage over gas ones which is it doesn't lose power at high elevation due to forced induction (turbocharger) plus I was impressed with a distance you can cover on FWY with full tank which was 712 miles in my case. In my opinion if you going to get a grand Cherokee it should be one with eco diesel and quadro drive 2 system other options are not that important but those two are the only ones which make it into the real jeep. I don't understand people who get rwd ones because in that case it would be more reasonable to get a station wagon .

[@CarGuy11]

Cool thanks for sharing!

[@shiningstaer]

I love mine , fun to work on and tune

[@CarGuy11]

Nice!

[@AN-kg4ei]

curious what tune you did and what the results were? What year is your GC?

[@Megadave4life]

Shit heard this could lead to fire from 2014 to 2019 starting New Year’s Eve you get a free maintenance for it in case I run into that problem

[@CarGuy11]

Yeah heard about the recall thanks.

[@jameshibbard2963]

When you put eco diesel, I was expect a review of the diesel, beyond that, all Jeep Grand Cherokees are exactly alike!

[@CarGuy11]

That’s exactly what the video focused on 🤔

[@Spiritualwarfare587]

I cant understand y diesel cars in us dont have factory hydronic heater like we have in eu , u just program time and u have warm car

[@CarGuy11]

Good point, my guess is cost.

[@abelpineda155]

Did he really compare it to the supra turbo ??? What SUB not a sport car

[@CarGuy11]

It’s still a turbo and you’d want even less lag in an SUV for towing & off roading.

[@ocdetailing8487]

It tells u to prepare to brake as it is cancelling.

[@CarGuy11]

Yeah but thats not enough.

[@mistadj]

I also dont see why diesel is considerable cheaper than gas in Europe but in the states its more expensive

[@CarGuy11]

I believe gas is taxed higher there.

[@MrSnookerballs]

@@CarGuy11 diesel is dearer in the UK than petrol.

[@WreckedBrewery]

Doesn't sound worth it unless you are towing alot. My Cherokee Limited gets about 30-32 mpg on the highway.

[@CarGuy11]

Wow 2wd 4cyl?

[@WreckedBrewery]

@@CarGuy11 V6 4x4 mostly loaded model. It really surprises me.

[@mistadj]

I was thinking about getting a used Jeep 2018 diesel but i thought the mileage would be better.

[@CarGuy11]

Yeah others have gotten better tho.

[@tlewisAK]

I have a 2014 GC Summit with the Diesel, and I love it. I do a lot of driving for work and it’s mixed hwy / city. My only complaint is the lag at start. This is defiantly a vehicle that needs to be driven. My best distance is about 675 miles on a single tank. That was 98% highway and 2% city, and I had some tall passes to climb ( I live in Alaska). It can tow, but my wife’s Chevy 2500HD gets better mileage towing our travel trailer. My GC averaged 8mpg while my wife’s 6.0L gasser averaged 10-12mpg. As to the winter & cold, no issues with DPF freeze. It’s meant to shut off at temps colder than +20F. Overall, I’m quite pleased with the Diesel.

[@CarGuy11]

Great thanks for sharing!

[@matthewluna727]

Nice! How many miles are on the motor?!

[@tlewisAK]

@@matthewluna727 I’m sitting at about 40k miles.

[@cyclonus01]

Any issues since your comment ? Thanks

[@tlewisAK]

@@cyclonus01 no issues. It’s a great vehicle that I still love driving.

[@THEDIESELCHANNEL]

Diesel all the way.

[@CarGuy11]

Yeah it’s a great option!

[@user-ky6iy5ff6u]

we pull 8000 lbs rv assume jeep

[@CarGuy11]

Nice!!

[@Mark-lu8re]

"my guess"

[@BornToBeFamed]

Diesel > While other's have to stop at the pump. For a daily diesel all day every day

[@aaronaustincraig]

Of course your jeep turbo is slower than on supra. Come on.

[@CarGuy11]

Talking about lag.

[@marine3836e]

Save in maintenance

[@davidgdraper6269]

Went from a KL TH with 3.2L Pentastar. I now have a GC with 3.6L Pentastat, similar to the GC prior to the Cherokee. Forget the diesel. It’s more polluting and unless you are a heavy tower, then maybe. My 2018 is the Sterling Limited with better gas mileage than the smaller TH. I did like that vehicle but it was loud on the highway.

[@CarGuy11]

Hmm good to know. Yeah the TH definitely uses more fuel than base models.

[@MrSnookerballs]

with all the filters and sensors on todays diesels some are cleaner than the petrols. yes the old diesels from yesteryear are very poluting but euro 6 are very clean and the adblue turns the NOx gases to water.

[@Kyle-xt8ip]

Can it roll coal though 😁

[@CarGuy11]

Not stock ha!

[@edgartorres4482]

I need a tune full delete in cali

[@jaguar7051]

Joe, are you ok? Car with high sticker price and you looking for milage? Go to mama and cry forever, ok? Different engines means of joy have fan or sound from under the hood By 1 cyl Suzuki and be happy with your mama ok. Adult man and ??????????????????????????????????????????????????

[@1kdelta404]

What validated my opinion on your opinion nothing against you being queer and all but your gay… you don’t give advice on something you put 100 miles on like your word is worth my time