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@aljazeeraenglish
@aljazeeraenglish 9 ай бұрын
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@ennisel
@ennisel 8 ай бұрын
5:21 - What caused the war? 21:41 - After such a long time with failed leadership (maybe on both sides) not being able to reach a comparable agreement, don't you think that a lot of the rights that the Palestinians would want, will be too late: such as the right of return. Are you suggesting that they become citizens of Israel or seek asylum? Then they'd enjoy full rights like their Israeli counterparts, no?
@yoezra
@yoezra 8 ай бұрын
Al Jazeera is HamaSS propaganda TV.
@asdf-bm4df
@asdf-bm4df 8 ай бұрын
2:12 after Ottomans unprovoked joined WW1- a few years after they initiated the armenian and assyrian genocides on millions of christians. The Balfour Declaration was a noble cause but met resistance because of the deeply rooted hate against jews aswell as christians- planted by household islamic scripture like Q98/6, Q5/51 and Q9/29.
@jeffmattes5446
@jeffmattes5446 8 ай бұрын
Also left out, is Arabs can have full citizenship in Israel, including election to the Knesset. Can you name one Arab state, where that is true? The one state plan, is also a route to exterminating the Jews.
@idf.israel1
@idf.israel1 6 ай бұрын
✌️🇮🇱✌️🇮🇱✌️
@bretedwards2899
@bretedwards2899 10 ай бұрын
In 1948, Jordan took control of the West Bank and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip, leaving the Palestinians with no land in which to declare a nation (and the Palestinians did not declare any desire to form a state when occupied by these nations). The other Arab countries were more than happy to expand their nations at the expense of an independent Palestine. BTW, except for Jordan no Palestinian refugees have been given citizenship status in other Arab countries (for over 75 years). These actions imply that the other Arab nations have no real loyalty to Palestine and use it as a political ploy only for internal political reasons.
@fatheranthony4pope
@fatheranthony4pope 10 ай бұрын
There lack of being given citizenship is because those countries believe that they should have the right to return to the land the Israelis stole in 1948
@MandalorianJedi-v7f
@MandalorianJedi-v7f 10 ай бұрын
Why should arab countries take the palestinians in? Palestina is their country.
@starman1994
@starman1994 10 ай бұрын
@@MandalorianJedi-v7f Call the land by its real name, Judaea.
@MandalorianJedi-v7f
@MandalorianJedi-v7f 9 ай бұрын
@user-ey5om1td2q thank you for this information. I will do and read what you explained.
@nadavatar123
@nadavatar123 9 ай бұрын
Spitting facts
@think-about-it-777
@think-about-it-777 9 ай бұрын
This is the most polite but overly elaborate way to say: "A look at this FUBAR map partitioning forcing people who hate each other to live next to each other and then let's act surprised when they can't be peaceful"
@gummysteve
@gummysteve 8 ай бұрын
I did a deep dive on the middle east as a whole years ago. This is the common theme.
@timothymcbride5092
@timothymcbride5092 8 ай бұрын
We did it in South Africa. But we had a one-state solution. Apartheid was an attempt at a two-state solution. (with 'black homelands on a fraction of the land. Blacks, like Palestinians, were being asked to be foreigners in most of their own land. We rejected this as nonsense. I don't know why the Apartheid (Apart-ness) two-state "solution" is being proposed for Palestine. it simply legalises the dispossession of the indigenous people. The two-state solution is the problem. The solution is democracy.
@ladygaga81ful
@ladygaga81ful 7 ай бұрын
Same thing they are pushing for Cyprus. Greek historical TINY island that UN is forcing us to become “one” with the turkish invaders and occupiers (illegally occupying us for 50 years) Looks like the Muslim minority always wins… 🇨🇾🙏🏼🇮🇱
@TeacherDoug7
@TeacherDoug7 7 ай бұрын
@@timothymcbride5092 South Africa is a basketcase now so you look pretty silly using it as an example. And Apartheid is one state with racial supremacy, literally the opposite of a two-state solution. A good example of a two-state solution is Czechoslovakia breaking into the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
@yeboi3781
@yeboi3781 5 ай бұрын
​@@timothymcbride5092 I sympathize with the one state solution, but I'm not sure it's a good idea. The reason for this is because Palestinians are in the minority, so Zionist law will win basically every time.
@Aleksssssssss
@Aleksssssssss 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully someday Israelis and Palestinians will be able to live in peace and tranquility. Pray for peace
@jamesmusically
@jamesmusically 9 ай бұрын
and Jesus back when it happen
@andyroo9381
@andyroo9381 9 ай бұрын
There will NEVER be peace in the Middle East.
@Apollorion
@Apollorion 9 ай бұрын
But don't forget: _nothing fails like prayer._
@Hegemon1984
@Hegemon1984 9 ай бұрын
thanks stan
@kornykorhorn
@kornykorhorn 9 ай бұрын
I have Palestinian friends who love living in Israel currently.
@a.g7891
@a.g7891 5 ай бұрын
5:10 "Israel pushed out Jordan and Egypt" You forgot to mention those countries plus others attacked Israel It's like saying maybe the Twin Towers just got in the way of those planes.
@srinivas345
@srinivas345 3 ай бұрын
Halfway into the video I saw the channel name
@rgorell
@rgorell 3 ай бұрын
It’s astounding. She makes it sound like they were just squabbling. I really expected more from Qatari state media 😂
@ItWasSaucerShaped
@ItWasSaucerShaped 3 ай бұрын
is that kind of like how germany found itself surrounded by enemies after it invaded and occupied poland?
@michaelethnan9822
@michaelethnan9822 22 күн бұрын
@@srinivas345 🤣🤣🤣
@PonderousNerve
@PonderousNerve 4 ай бұрын
Don't forget there was and still are Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Christians that also don't support the Israeli government, this isn't just a Muslim issue. This is a human rights issue.
@joeanderson8839
@joeanderson8839 9 ай бұрын
I have watched this conflict, prayed about it, spoken out, voted for candidates who were for peace,and done everything in my power to make peace in this land happen. I am done. People don't care enough about this conflict to listen to both sides. Netanyahu has used his power for years to take more and more land from the Palestinians. And radical extremists on both sides have done everything in their power to stop every effort from succeeding. There are people on both sides that want peace. But every plan and agreement is sabotaged by people on both sides who refuse to let peace happen. All the other Arab nations have kept the Palestinians armed, and kept the radical extremists in power, at the expense of the Palestinian civilians. I don't see any of these nations helping Palestinian refugees. Nobody wants them in their country. They are being used as pawns on the stage of international theater. The fact is that nobody in Israel and Palestine are going to have peace because of the determination of those who insist on destroying the other. The United States has armed Israel to protect the Jewish people who live their. But most of us don't want Israel to continue to steal the land. Israel does not recognize the human rights of Palestinians, and Palestinians don't recognize that there are some Jews who want peace. I am so tired of it. There is nothing more to do but let them fight it out. I feel sorry for all of the people in this country who want to live in peace with each other. I don't know what will happen to these people if there is no law to protect the civil rights of every man, woman, and child regardless of their religious beliefs. There must be a government that protects the rights and property of all people. Not a government just for Jewish people, or just for Palestinians. There must be a separation between church and state. People must be protected and represented. Land must not be stolen. People must stop killing each other.
@sashmendis8432
@sashmendis8432 7 ай бұрын
Finally saw a comment with some home for possible peace even if it's slim Here in Australia we don't have any leverage in that part of the world... I'm not affiliated with that area at all but a person who can see the injustice of the Palastianians...keep voting for the right people writing n protesting...its so so sad that children the same age as my boys won't get the same opportunities because they were born to a different religion or a race...in 2024 there should be no place for this...😢
@ann_cam
@ann_cam 6 ай бұрын
agree; there is too much hate from large groups of people for it to even matter what our opinions are at this point here in the West. When the people in power in both Palestine and Israel do not want to negotiate anymore, what more can we over here do?
@VintageBuggs
@VintageBuggs 4 ай бұрын
For sure. And it doesn't help that the (social)media are constantly fueled with passionate and aggresive opinions. It's so easy to label people such and such and ignore the hard path of discussing rationally.
@StuStevens-rn7rb
@StuStevens-rn7rb 4 ай бұрын
@@joeanderson8839 God owns all the land worldwide. Long before the Roman Empire and Palestine which they carved out God promised Israel a Huge part of the Middle East. That has yet to come to pass. God is Not a man that He should lie. His promise to Israel will be fulfilled in due time, much to both the chagrin and joy of certain nations. God Always gets His way. Who is mere man that can stand up to God. Look at history's carnage of nations who tried going against God. They either don't exist or are of No affect on the world stage. 🤔😯
@MiladaKaiser
@MiladaKaiser 4 ай бұрын
Each time some solution was offered, Israel was open to it and Palestinians ALWAYS REFUSED. Insisting on FromRtoS all country for themselves. Country called for 3 500 years Judea, Samaria, Israel, Galilea… They insist, that Jesus was Palestinian. And - their alphabet does not have letter P and they cannot bronounce Balestine.
@seerOfNatur
@seerOfNatur 9 ай бұрын
She didn't mention that Palestinians fled because Arab leaders commanded to leave, not because Israelis would expel them. Arabs who staid are living in Israel now and are Israeli citizens.
@acmulhern
@acmulhern 9 ай бұрын
Your information is wrong. Where did you learn that?
@seerOfNatur
@seerOfNatur 9 ай бұрын
@@acmulhern Let's agree to disagree. Certainly not on Zionism conspiracy propaganda made started by Soviet and Arab propaganda. There are many official sources: "The existence of these refugees is a direct result of the Arab States' opposition to the partition plan and the reconstitution of the State of Israel. The Arab states adopted this policy unanimously and the responsibility of its results, therefore is theirs; ...The flight of Arabs from the territory allotted by the UN for the Jewish state began immediately after the General Assembly decision at the end of November 1947. This wave of emigration, which lasted several weeks, comprised some thirty thousand people, chiefly well-to-do-families." - Emil Ghoury, secretary of the Arab High Council, Lebanese daily Al-Telegraph, 6 Sept 1948
@seerOfNatur
@seerOfNatur 9 ай бұрын
@@acmulhern Let's agree to disagree. Certainly not from Zionist conspiracy propaganda spread by the early Soviet Union and arabs. Plenty of information on that in newspapers from newspapers around 1948. I can't post links on youtube. Start by looking for an answer on Quora, not some hysterical media. Look for "Is it true that in 1948 Arab leaders urged Arabs to leave Israel, and not to return until they defeated Israel (which never happened), whereas the Jews urged many of the Arabs to stay (and those who did have done well in Israel)?"
@darita654
@darita654 8 ай бұрын
I have read that the both are true.
@sana4u02
@sana4u02 7 ай бұрын
Why are you do you tell lies atleast we saw videos
@seahawkwatersports7061
@seahawkwatersports7061 4 ай бұрын
I love this reporter and her style of talking, her voice and her personality is so perfect.
@kasabo12
@kasabo12 2 ай бұрын
@@seahawkwatersports7061 Her English is excellent. I think she’s not a native English speaker.
@Joseph-nw3gw
@Joseph-nw3gw 2 ай бұрын
i think it is how she breaks down things.....
@bidhrohi12
@bidhrohi12 29 күн бұрын
She leaves out any responsibility of Palestinians for anything, and offers an idiotic solution that will never happen. Israel won't welcome the Arabs who cheered raping and murdering their Jewish daughters.
@ishaan2947
@ishaan2947 10 ай бұрын
If al jazeera is making a documentary on historic census of who lived on the land, they should make a similar one for kashmir too
@arielcombalicer8118
@arielcombalicer8118 10 ай бұрын
No. They are pushing for two states which is GAZA and WESTBANK from the river to the sea.
@saul3332
@saul3332 9 ай бұрын
@@arielcombalicer8118 That is everything.
@cloud-devops2741
@cloud-devops2741 9 ай бұрын
Then They will be exposed. I am not taking any side here but clearly they are trying to show Israel on the wrong side. Now we can understand if they do a documentary on kashmir which side they will take
@mishar8889
@mishar8889 9 ай бұрын
And Pakistan
@prangonweb93
@prangonweb93 9 ай бұрын
And for Balochistan
@asifkhan4822
@asifkhan4822 10 ай бұрын
A 2 State Solution has always just been a talking point for Western Politicians.
@БогданБеркут
@БогданБеркут 10 ай бұрын
Excellent, there will be a 0 state solution for the Palestinians
@DarkCreed
@DarkCreed 10 ай бұрын
​@@БогданБеркутExactly. There's no other way round it. The jews are not just going to pack up and leave. Two states is the only way to fix this.
@chidefes4903
@chidefes4903 10 ай бұрын
so then whoever wins wins
@eds1942
@eds1942 10 ай бұрын
No, they idea was that if there was going to be lasting peace, that the two people that live there would and should work it out for themselves. And that is part of the reason as to why it has become cliché. Because if a nation or group of people can be liked unto a person, than both persons here can’t act like adults and one of those has the backing of the US which feels religious compelled to back them.
@Gertunet3103
@Gertunet3103 10 ай бұрын
yes but it is nonsense today
@MultiCconway
@MultiCconway 10 ай бұрын
How does one negotiate with a party that says you must go away (completely, do not exist anymore)?
@brokenrecord3095
@brokenrecord3095 9 ай бұрын
Isn't that kinda both sides in this dispute?
@kornykorhorn
@kornykorhorn 9 ай бұрын
No, because Palestinians live peacefully in Israel. I know many Palestinians, who love living in Israel currently. However, Israelis cannot live peacefully in Palestinian areas. Let’s not forget this.
@MultiCconway
@MultiCconway 9 ай бұрын
@@kornykorhorn it is interesting how Palestinians can live in Israeli areas peacefully . . . BUT no Israeli can safely live in any Palestinian area safely. That fact kind of says it all.
@aniketprasad3128
@aniketprasad3128 9 ай бұрын
​@@MultiCconway yeah cuz Palestinians only have 22% to live and out of that also, a lot is housed by Israelis
@MultiCconway
@MultiCconway 9 ай бұрын
@@brokenrecord3095 Not when one side can trace its claim to the land all the way back to Ancient Times before the birth of Christ. Volumes of archeological evidence proves it every day.
@WilhelmSallsten
@WilhelmSallsten 3 ай бұрын
A two state solution is not feasible because Israel will not accept it. They continue to build settlements in Palestinian territory.
@jubz983
@jubz983 3 ай бұрын
Fyi For the sake of peace, Israel withdrew its people from Gaza in 2005 by force that even their dead were dug out from their grieves. They left their farms and houses and even vast wealth of agriculture. No Jews on Gaza since then,search history for yourself
@kymmillbank8889
@kymmillbank8889 9 ай бұрын
So, who started these wars? What happened to start them? What is the history in Gaza? Was there a war between Hamas and the PLA? What happened during that? You missed a lot out.
@leejackson3268
@leejackson3268 9 ай бұрын
she left out every part of the story where the arabs attacked first
@mikeg2306
@mikeg2306 8 ай бұрын
​@@leejackson3268Which is in fact most of it.
@leejackson3268
@leejackson3268 7 ай бұрын
@@mikeg2306 yea that's kinda just all muslim history....
@linoyohana1186
@linoyohana1186 6 ай бұрын
it’s al jazeera what did you expected?😂 they will twist the fact so it would fit their own narrative. never believe arab media😅
@icantthinkofausername7712
@icantthinkofausername7712 6 ай бұрын
Read the Hundred Years War On Palestine. Excellent book.
@LearnWithTheBest
@LearnWithTheBest 9 ай бұрын
The oppressed are now the oppressors. How ironic!
@thecedex
@thecedex 3 ай бұрын
Yeah Jewish-Zionists are basically nerds that got bullied around high school and, instead of uplifting others because of knowing the experience of getting bullied, they do the same as others just to power trip.
@antonboludo8886
@antonboludo8886 10 ай бұрын
This is never going to end.
@vozdemando1111
@vozdemando1111 10 ай бұрын
I heard the Almighty cursed this land.
@douglasb5046
@douglasb5046 3 ай бұрын
We can only hope. After decades of fighting, peace has reached Northern Ireland.
@AlimunnaharSetu
@AlimunnaharSetu Ай бұрын
@@douglasb5046 No, it will never end. God and Peace will never go there. Without study purpose, I never spend a second in this matter. Because I understood that it's a never ending saga when I became an adult.
@johnbehnen8506
@johnbehnen8506 4 ай бұрын
The most clear explanation on the ongoing conflict between Jews and Palestinians. Thank you
@D.AUSHINDI
@D.AUSHINDI 9 ай бұрын
This is the first time I agree with Aljazeera. Finally they have reason things out. The only solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict is a one state solution. It's totally impossible to divide the land, it will only lead to the destruction of Israel and Palestine. The future is a United States Of Israel-Palestine, what I call ( the United States of IsPine ) Don't expect it now, but one thing I know is we surely will have the 2 people living as one family one day. Don't even think the Arab world, The West or the Communist can help make this a reality because their selfish interest won't allow. Only the people of Palestine and Israel can make the decision to stop fighting and start building a future together.
@isabella25152
@isabella25152 7 ай бұрын
Fully agree. I hope the movement Standing Together will gain visibility, because that's their aim (at least within the so-called Israeli borders at the moment). Other movements are Parents Circle and This is Not an Ulpan. Cheers.
@TeacherDoug7
@TeacherDoug7 7 ай бұрын
That will never happen, because jews want israel to be a country for jews, with a star of david as their flag. None of their "offers" are even intended to be accepted. The last one was done between Netenyahu and Trump with no Palestinian present. What a joke.
@RobPires
@RobPires 7 ай бұрын
Israel made it impossible for a two state when they expanded their illegal settlements.
@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE
@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE 7 ай бұрын
Completely idiotic. giving all the land to isntreal won't give the Palestinians rights or protection. This "solution" is a FARCE NC
@Kian139
@Kian139 7 ай бұрын
No matter what, the jews will not accept being a minority ever again. That has never worked well for them anywhere. Whatever your united solution looks like this is a premise.
@davidlanders2853
@davidlanders2853 10 ай бұрын
The Cherokee nation could tell you a bit a bout a "two state "solution
@tani123
@tani123 9 ай бұрын
There is currently no Palestinian organization that does not support terrorism that receives the support of more than 30 percent of the Palestinians. For this reason, a two-state solution, at least for now, is simply irrelevant.
@davidlanders2853
@davidlanders2853 9 ай бұрын
@@tani123 And who is responsible for the lack of governance in the occupied territories? Over the history of the state of Israel they have made every effort to undermine any development of an effective Palestinian governance. Much like we have done to our First Nations people here in the US. We have our own kind of "settlers" here.
@xaspirate8060
@xaspirate8060 8 ай бұрын
@@tani123 My thoughts as well. Any which way they are going to be neighbors so they just finally need to be respectful of each other's territories. I want to be optimistic but in no way would I place a bet on that one. Just thousands of years of unrest stemming fr5om the original Tribes.
@Mister_Pedantic
@Mister_Pedantic 8 ай бұрын
For those people who do not understand what you mean: the Cherokee people did everything that was asked of them in their treaty, and more. They abandoned their old ways and became farmers. They acheived a literacy rate higher than the "Americans" who surrounded them. But when the time came, the US gov't ignored the treaty (like the other 300+ treaties) and displaced them, literally chasing them out of their homes as "Americans" stood by, waiting to take possession.
@bethgriesauer3825
@bethgriesauer3825 8 ай бұрын
Your comparison is the epitome of "apples and oranges".
@Marss13z
@Marss13z 10 ай бұрын
Haven't the political entities of the PA and hamass repeatedly rejected, for whatever reasons, proposed two-state solutions? The only rational choice is peaceful coexistence but that option seems to be consistently rejected by the Palestinian authorities. What to do?
@hamoda3191
@hamoda3191 10 ай бұрын
Ignorant, PLO recognised Israel
@Marss13z
@Marss13z 10 ай бұрын
@@hamoda3191 PLO isn't the PA. They're still calling Israel the "entity".
@thinkhector
@thinkhector 9 ай бұрын
The United States can impose a 1 State Solution with both parties weighing in on the details. Nobody cares weather South Africa would be ruled by white or black South Africans. The only concern is ending the Apartheid system. Whatever becomes of the land and the people in the future is irrelevant. And really just an excuse to delay the 1 State Solution.
@rememberalamo7994
@rememberalamo7994 8 ай бұрын
@@hamoda3191 PLO did recognize Israel. But Arafat for some reason did not sign the peace deal offered. Later, he said something along this line: If I did sign it, I would be killed. Needless to say that children of Palestinians are not raised with that idea in mind. Nowadays, 72% Palestinians support Hamas which doesn't recognize Israel right to exist.
@hamoda3191
@hamoda3191 8 ай бұрын
@@rememberalamo7994 What peace deal offered? +it's enough for the occupied ppl to recognise the occupying power in humiliating deal (PLO recognises Israel= Israel recognises the Palestinains as a group of ppl and the PLO is a representative of them) The Israelis who are the fifth happiest population on Earth elected a far right gov. for 13 years Which doesn't recognise Palestine
@g.bradlee
@g.bradlee 26 күн бұрын
It would be fair to give the Palestinians some place to live either on the river or in the sea......a system of floating boats would be a good idea....then there will be peace and harmony.
@allison210
@allison210 9 ай бұрын
Mostly a good video. I was watching for bias and didn't see much, except for a couple instances. At 18:33, it's clear that the Israeli ambassador was cut off in the middle of her sentence and the subtitles indicated it was the end of a sentence, creating a misleading effect. It sounded like she was going to say "no unless" but I'm not sure. I also noticed at 16:39 that the figures for death tolls on Oct 7 and in Gaza were presented as "according to Israeli officials", but not as "according to Hamas officials." Finally, I noticed that though the Nakba and the Palestinians who were displaced during it were discussed, there was no discussion of the approximately equal number of Jews who were displaced from nearby Muslim-majority countries and who had to flee to Israel as refugees during the same time period. I think this is an important piece of information to include. But overall I found the video informative.
@albertonunez5870
@albertonunez5870 3 ай бұрын
but details do matter
@redamasarani
@redamasarani Ай бұрын
You really expect unbiased pov from Al-Jazera, the biggest supporter of the terror group Hamas and that's run by the Muslim Brotherhood
@caialan9491
@caialan9491 10 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right. Follow Singapore way of government. One state, one parliament represented by both parties. One nation one people united to focus on trade and national development for all people.
@mellowInventor
@mellowInventor 10 ай бұрын
Seriously! It is one of the most strategically situated areas in the World, it could be a powerhouse if the two sides didn't war. However, even if every Palestinian laid down arms, Israelis would not lay down theirs: they keep theirs to turn on themselves if they view it necessary, it is a barbaric practice by humans today 😢
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 9 ай бұрын
Gazans (and Jihadi Palestinians generally) don’t seem to have a constructive bone in their national body. So that will never work.
@tyranadoinfernorino8014
@tyranadoinfernorino8014 6 ай бұрын
Fellow singaporean here, I hope and pray that the palestinians are able to receive help but I highly doubt so since hamas keeps stealing their resources
@icantthinkofausername7712
@icantthinkofausername7712 6 ай бұрын
@@tyranadoinfernorino8014 Hamas wouldn’t be doing anything against israel had israel not been massacring Palestinians for the past 75 years. Read a book. Look at an article. You’re gonna tell me Hamas is at fault when the IOF is notorious for gang raping, torturing and murdering Palestinians? You’re gonna tell me Hamas is at fault when the israeli education system involves dehumanising and demonising Palestinians?
@emil1507
@emil1507 9 ай бұрын
3:52 that's the key to all the conflict. You cant start a war lose and cry for the results, all the arad nations around couldn't defeat Israel that at that time were poor and with small population that just survive the holocaust. There is price for mistakes.
@johanmalm8378
@johanmalm8378 8 ай бұрын
Thank You Al Jazeera! This was very good! And as unbiased as possible.Been looking for a good explainer for friends. Thanx again.
@luminitasimionescu1026
@luminitasimionescu1026 8 ай бұрын
No bias ? When you said 1200 in according with Israel source and say 31000 victims Palestinian and don’t say in according with Hamas sources is a bias…
@gregpaul7395
@gregpaul7395 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video, but why do you keep misquoting the figures. In actual fact 77% of the British Mandate Palestine was given to the Hashemite dynasty to rule over and Israel were offered a portion of the remaining 23% only.
@Windingspirals
@Windingspirals 10 ай бұрын
The whole two state solution idea was just arab lebensraum and dar al islam. Jordan, Syria, Egypt and Lebanon are the palestinian states. There is no difference between arabs in any of these countries and the palestinians. Genetically, culturally, religiously, culinarily, linguistically. They are one people as Zuheir Mohsen said in 1977. The word palestine doesn't exist in arabic. There is no p sound. The whole thing is immoral and illegitimate and the world's sublimated antisemitism. Conscious and unconscious.
@besimple4592
@besimple4592 10 ай бұрын
F sound , hasbara
@B-...
@B-... 9 ай бұрын
Create a state based on a religion.... Blames every critique of that state on anti-semitism. This is pure nonsense in it's purest form. Conflating Israel with jews as you do is the actual anti-semitic argument because it boils an entire religion down to the actions of one tiny political nation state. That's extremely prejudiced and you don't even seem to realize it.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir 9 ай бұрын
@@besimple4592 Except that the romans, who invented the term, used P, not F.
@Lius525
@Lius525 9 ай бұрын
Anyone who supports one state solution, or at least the way they talk about, should have no problem with Israel simply annexing the territories and giving Palestinians citizenship and all the same democratic rights that two million Palestinian arabs in Israel already have. And since Israel is a democracy any real or perceived discriminatory practices can be changed through elections. Including the name of the country and the flag. Modern countries have thousands laws, regulations, trade and military agreements. It would be foolish to throw all that Israel has accumulated over the years, South Africa certainly didn't do so after the apetheid. But the moment you suggest this to "democratic one state solution supporters" they start screaming at you, because you called their bluff. Because what they actually want is one state of Palestine where the jews will be second class citizens at best or run out completely. But that message wouldn't be palatable to clueless white college westerners this video is aimed at.
@sana4u02
@sana4u02 7 ай бұрын
What a joke a thieve dictating ownership
@sana4u02
@sana4u02 7 ай бұрын
What if is the other way round
@capricrescent
@capricrescent 10 ай бұрын
What is the use of a state if the leaders are corrupt and do not bring prosperity, security etc...
@ibrahimhamza5571
@ibrahimhamza5571 10 ай бұрын
Ur right if can’t establish justice in Jerusalem the holy land Than u don’t deserve to rule it
@capricrescent
@capricrescent 10 ай бұрын
@@ibrahimhamza5571 which one is better ruler Palestinians or Israel? For 75 years, Palestinians just did destruction, not giving any positive results to their people. 75 years for Israel make them one of the advanced nations in the world.
@bretedwards2899
@bretedwards2899 10 ай бұрын
To have an agreement there usually needs to be a trust that both sides will honor that agreement, until this happens do not expect an agreement to occur.
@epicchocolate1866
@epicchocolate1866 9 ай бұрын
There really isn’t two sides. No one is really advocating for Palestine legitimately, HAMAS operates in gaza but there’s no unified voice, that has actual influence in West Bank or gaza, and until countries like the US recognize Palestinian sovereignty, there will only ever be extremists and radicals, and no legitimate governance
@Popman04
@Popman04 10 ай бұрын
How did the British came in control of that land far from Europe, what about the history of the people who were living there before the British's arrival and renaming of that land...
@nickb-
@nickb- 10 ай бұрын
Palestine was controlled by the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) for hundreds of years but they were on the losing side in WWI. The League of Nations asked Britain to temporarily run the Palestine region while they worked out a strategy for permanent government and borders. This was called Mandated Palestine because the Brits were given a "mandate" to run the area.
@Popman04
@Popman04 10 ай бұрын
Alright, I get when the British jumped in the story, thanks ...Can we rewind further back please, periods of 1st -2nd dominant empires of the world, we can even keep progressing up to the dominance of the Roman's empire to have a better undestanding of the regional conflicts&Claims
@xmarksthespot6699
@xmarksthespot6699 10 ай бұрын
that's what you called, spoils of jihad
@commentator12300
@commentator12300 10 ай бұрын
before that there is no United Nation, who win the war, have everything, the roman occupied Israel and took the land from the jews, Ottoman took the land of israel from the roman, and the British won the ww1 agaist ottoman, and gave back the land to Jews! that simple! Two state solution proposed because there are many arabs people been there since ottoman rule that area! the Arab nations against that! you can see wars after that up until now
@sith24773
@sith24773 10 ай бұрын
Because POWER equals control. Period
@urban_godsatl4571
@urban_godsatl4571 7 ай бұрын
An occupied people has the right to resist
@tomfinney3416
@tomfinney3416 10 ай бұрын
if Israel insists only a one state solution can work , then they must grant equal rights to all in this one state regardless of culture or creed, at present do Palestinians get to vote in the knesset ? they are subject to its laws
@silvia-vm7fe
@silvia-vm7fe 10 ай бұрын
No, it isn't possible . The Arabs showed on October 7th what they want to do to the Jews . The only 1 state is in Jordan where they have to go .
@tomfinney3416
@tomfinney3416 10 ай бұрын
@@silvia-vm7fe can we agree on this , a section of the Palestinian community of millions , a few thousand , commited the acts of oct 7th , however the backlash is putting millions of lives at risk , escalation isnt good , what needs to happen is equality and fairness , this will of course require concessions but it is the way forward
@tomfinney3416
@tomfinney3416 10 ай бұрын
@@silvia-vm7fe it is humans that create borders mainly but sometimes it is also geography , both people have the same desire , a land that stretches from the river to the sea they can share it fairly but they must be treat equally
@thegame7557
@thegame7557 10 ай бұрын
​@@tomfinney3416when there was an agreement with Arafat there was an attempt to have open borders. Events forced construction of high walls and fences. Can both sides operate without violence
@tomfinney3416
@tomfinney3416 10 ай бұрын
@@thegame7557 yes i think so , its the lack of ability to vote in who is govt be it israeli for palestine or palestinian for israeli , could they have one govt where each are accorded equal rights in who governs israels knesset has diverse factions mostly over zionism ie pro or anti , they pass laws that affect every moment of not only israeli citizens but palestinians too i only know a bit of each language , two words , same meaning merhaba , shalom
@GulushAgamamedova
@GulushAgamamedova 10 ай бұрын
The one state must have the name of Palestine. It is the name of this land. Israel is the name of the state of Jewish people. The Palestine is the name of the land. The equal rights for all citizens and the equal number of places in the authorities bodies.
@antoniocarlosoliveira9146
@antoniocarlosoliveira9146 10 ай бұрын
Technically it should be canaan not palestine , palestine was a name given by the romans to the region , the name " palestinr " is just another way to refer to filistina or filistine aka the land of filistinians , filistinians were indo-european people that lived in the levant region ( between modern day lebannon and israel ) , however they dissapeared after some time and no one really knows what happened to them.
@B-...
@B-... 9 ай бұрын
@@antoniocarlosoliveira9146 Astute point. With that said, I think the fair compromise is simply calling it the nation of 'Israel and Palestine'.
@evangelistfortunate8077
@evangelistfortunate8077 4 ай бұрын
Well it was called Israel and the land of Judah if we are to go back to history. And the further known history will be Canaan. Nothing like Palestine but something created by Arabs who occupied Jewish land. I am comfortable with the name Israel since judae and Samaria are now one people. It's called israel
@jonathana2695
@jonathana2695 9 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity. If it was to turn out to be a one state solution, would you rather it be controlled by Israel/Democracy or Palestinians? If those were the only two options.
@Smooth_Operator
@Smooth_Operator 7 ай бұрын
The answer to your question is in south africa
@Kian139
@Kian139 7 ай бұрын
@@Smooth_Operator not really. In Israel the the majority has been persecuted for ever. They will not accept being a minority ever again.
@janos2591
@janos2591 6 ай бұрын
You omitted the Ehud Barak offer 99 percent of the land. You omitted that Israel made Gaza Jews free. Not even one jew lived there.
@LucaCiprianRufius
@LucaCiprianRufius 10 ай бұрын
It was not a war of independence it was a war of occupation of Palestine, before it was occupied the British colonial empire. It was a war of independence when Romania (1877-1878), the Greeks, the Serbs and the Bulgarians had fought against the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire.
@arpitcheema2501
@arpitcheema2501 10 ай бұрын
If someone is fighting for Their existence then it is war of independence
@jdcarling
@jdcarling 10 ай бұрын
the failed ottoman empire murderously colonized israels land for centuries along with the mamluks, caliphate and romans, they are all gone and faded. Israel is back home.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir 9 ай бұрын
Except that most of the land in the region was already owned, as in bought with money, by jews. Before the mandate was ever dreamed up by the same fucktards that jews wanted to escape, rich jews from europe were basically buying up every bog, swamp and sandbar they could. And after they bought them, they gave the land to jewish settlement, who then dried up the swamps and transformed trash lands, that their arab owners never even tried to fix, into ones that are actually worth living in. At which point the arabs started attacking and trying (and sometimes succeeding) to massacre any settlement they could in concerted attacks every now and then. And that's beside the fact that some jewish cities were under a state of non-stop siege, pretty much.
@geemo4284
@geemo4284 3 ай бұрын
And before that, it was occupied by the Ottoman Empire, that had a history of persecuting Jews in Armenia, Assyria, Iraq etc. It has been occupied for so long that it is almost impossible to establish who it actually belongs to, so lets not bother with that and get on with deciding how the people who live there can exist together in equality and without killing each other
@amanarman-rb8ym
@amanarman-rb8ym 10 ай бұрын
In Israeli point of view Two states solution is very urgent for Israel otherwise there will be only one state. In human history " Occupier always loses the war against occupied". It is just a matter of time. It is now becoming a global issue.
@YourAverageYoutubeCommentor
@YourAverageYoutubeCommentor 13 күн бұрын
what about USA, Canada and Australia? they are colonised countries and the natives are almost non-existent. history is written by the winners my brother. not that I don't support the 2 state solution.
@michaelschneider4837
@michaelschneider4837 10 ай бұрын
Where is the 2 state solution in 'fron the river to the sea?
@MiladaKaiser
@MiladaKaiser 4 ай бұрын
Each time some solution was offered, Israel was open to it and Palestinians ALWAYS REFUSED. Insisting on FromRtoS all country for themselves. Country called for 3 500 years Judea, Samaria, Israel, Galilea… They insist, that Jesus was Palestinian. And - their alphabet does not have letter P and they cannot bronounce Balestine.
@joshhh92
@joshhh92 9 ай бұрын
Ok, 1967 “Israel pushed out” … no mention of what war that was??? Sketchy doc. Didn’t Egypt begin going back on their word and the reason why the war started.
@NoNameNumberTwo
@NoNameNumberTwo 9 ай бұрын
My understanding is that Israel fired the first shot in the Six-Day War.
@thecreepnextdoor7560
@thecreepnextdoor7560 7 ай бұрын
@@NoNameNumberTwothey did but that was because the Arab states were planning an attack
@oisinm332
@oisinm332 10 ай бұрын
Two people the same captial city, that is insane. I do not see how that could work. Even the idea of the two state solution is a bit to much of a pipe dream.
@buddygrimfield7954
@buddygrimfield7954 10 ай бұрын
I cannot help but to wonder when people decry even so much as the possibility of a 2 state solution, whether they actually want for it to happen. Or do they simply see it as an unattainable outcome.
@oisinm332
@oisinm332 10 ай бұрын
@@buddygrimfield7954 A large part I'd imagine is both sides thinking, why should they compromise. Many just want the other group gone.
@buddygrimfield7954
@buddygrimfield7954 10 ай бұрын
Or perhaps some combination of both. I mean, peoples of opposing ideals have lived in the same place all throughout the entirety of human history. It is only the greed and religious/ethnic entitlement of the few which seems to get in the way. Other than that, most people do want to basically just live in peace. Or at least the very least reach some level of basic stability.
@oisinm332
@oisinm332 10 ай бұрын
@@buddygrimfield7954 Exactly
@samuhlm2
@samuhlm2 10 ай бұрын
Palestinians need to gtfo and be taken in by a Muslim country. Sorry its been 75 yrs, theyve continued to insist on violence so theyve lost their opportunity.
@kevinhenry5749
@kevinhenry5749 9 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as Palestine and Palestinians. They are all people for surrounding countries.
@johndeefholts3212
@johndeefholts3212 8 ай бұрын
Excellent concise summary of history and current situation. Well done. Let's hope there is some will left for peace from both sides after this bitter war.
@drewlovelyhell4892
@drewlovelyhell4892 9 ай бұрын
It's very clear that Netanyahu wants to push the Palestinians out by any means necessary, and claim the whole region as the Jewish State. The world needs to put major pressure on Israel, starting with the US. But of course, they won't do anything to compromise their foothold in the MidEast, so that's not likely to happen.
@solimar1554
@solimar1554 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be nice if all people could stop the hyperbole and focus on negotiating a secure agreement. Hopefully, the Arabs of Gaza will choose to be more like the UAE than Syria. Only then will these people be truly free.
@hamoda3191
@hamoda3191 10 ай бұрын
Israelis should stop elect far right wing
@franciscahammerschlag4103
@franciscahammerschlag4103 5 ай бұрын
Jews were long before Arabs in that land (Israel), along with Arabs and Christians. However, the problem is that Arab countries do not want a Jewish State in the middle of their countries, although it could be a good collaboration between those Arab countries and Israel. Arab countries could benefit from the scientific and technological knowledge that Israel can offer to help themselves get out of their poverty, rebuild their cities and offer their citizens a better life. But if Arab countries betray Israel again by attacking it, Israel, of course, will defend itself and take the land it needs to prevent further attacks from Arab countries. All these wars could have been avoided from the beginning if it weren't for greediness and historical hatred towards the Jews because of prejudice.
@CurtisThomas-l9p
@CurtisThomas-l9p 5 ай бұрын
That's XioNazee supremacist thinking
@cristinapereira9787
@cristinapereira9787 5 ай бұрын
@@CurtisThomas-l9p 😂😂😂😂😂 no, the truth
@oier2718
@oier2718 5 ай бұрын
it doesnt matter whether was beneficial or not. the main point is that no one asked for those jews in that area, it was imposed.
@markmishchuk8869
@markmishchuk8869 5 ай бұрын
@@CurtisThomas-l9p😂😂 look up some deep history on the jewish ethnic people way older than all the Arab nations quit getting your info from garbage all jazera
@budekins7779
@budekins7779 5 ай бұрын
You seem completely ignorant of the history. Creation of Israel was a crime against the Palestinians perpetrated by US and UK.
@IfLifeIsALeaf
@IfLifeIsALeaf 8 ай бұрын
The news clip shown at 3:10 which talks about "terrorism" glosses over the fact that the "terrorists" were Irgun and other Zionist extremists, who bombed hotels, and killed UK politicians. Also, the Balfour agreement gave Jews the right to settle in the British Mandate of Palestine, it did not give them a green light to take it over. UK politicians actually became concerned, and limited Jewish migration until the Nazi's and WW II.
@Slynsmiley
@Slynsmiley 9 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that the 1967 war was one where Egypt, Jordan and Syria were intending on invading Israel and removing all of the Jews. Please remember that but, because it’s very important to know that context of intended genocide of the Jews.
@aayushilalita7788
@aayushilalita7788 7 ай бұрын
This news is funded by Arab do you really think their media is free to talk what Arab did wrong.
@RobPires
@RobPires 7 ай бұрын
Can we remember that it started when Eastern Europeans came to Palestine in large numbers to create a country at the expense of an already existing population? Logically that is where it started.
@farcinue
@farcinue 4 ай бұрын
Palestinians deserve rights and freedom.
@dougdaniel7429
@dougdaniel7429 3 ай бұрын
😂
@michasosnowski5918
@michasosnowski5918 10 ай бұрын
The initial partition of the land was so stupid that it would make impossible for these two countries to live in peace. Who divides the country like a 4 color squares flag? The countries would then fight to have more or better borders. Unfortunately for the Palestinians, the Israelis had support from the USA, so they won more and more over time. Its uneven fight. The Palestinians also could agree on some settlement, but they wanted more(Arafat broke the negotiations). They stupidly hoped that they could negotiate and fight for more, ignoring Israel military power and support from the USA.
@user-qy6jm9tz2f
@user-qy6jm9tz2f 10 ай бұрын
U.S. support started after 1967, so first learn history...😂
@kam70111
@kam70111 10 ай бұрын
In one state, everyone is equal. What is a two-state? Are you making it into the Maldives Islands? Dual citizens should go back.
@asewrweerwer9833
@asewrweerwer9833 10 ай бұрын
Two-state is two states. Like Germany and France. The number two comes after the number one. It is bigger than the number one. It represents two of number one. Double of number one. Monkey understands?
@silvia-vm7fe
@silvia-vm7fe 10 ай бұрын
Nope , not possible and never will be
@bushranizam4722
@bushranizam4722 10 ай бұрын
Those who have dual citizenship ..they shd go back to where they came from
@DarkCreed
@DarkCreed 10 ай бұрын
Problem is. The jews have shown they can't respect other religions. There's plenty of footage of them spitting on Christians. Put everyone under their rule and it would end poorly for the minorities.
@michaelw2288
@michaelw2288 10 ай бұрын
Like India and Pakistan after partition in 1947.
@Gabrielstaichi
@Gabrielstaichi 10 ай бұрын
Joseph Borrell the high representative of the Europe union for foreign affairs and security: "Anyone who wants to avoid the creation of a Palestinian state must support Hamas and transfer money to Hamas. This is what we are doing this is apart of our strategy. To finance Hamas so there will never be a Palestinian state." Do you know who said that? NETANYAHU in the Knesset, mars 2019.
@burnbeetlejuice9232
@burnbeetlejuice9232 10 ай бұрын
Evil devious satanaziyahuu
@nadim09967
@nadim09967 10 ай бұрын
It is impossible. Israel will never accept this.
@987ujhpl
@987ujhpl 10 ай бұрын
Neither will Hamas which is the dominant political movement
@Veritas2233
@Veritas2233 10 ай бұрын
They are foreigners with multiple citizenships so they can easily leave.
@cocofluff
@cocofluff 10 ай бұрын
Only outsiders talk about a two state solution. But how can it ever be when Israel nor Palestinians want it?
@hahdakdahkdhalsla
@hahdakdahkdhalsla 10 ай бұрын
​@@987ujhpllol. Hamas has no choice.
@987ujhpl
@987ujhpl 10 ай бұрын
@@hahdakdahkdhalsla why would they give yup their winning hand now? Unless you do think Israel is going to get rid of their leaders soon.
@GM8N
@GM8N 10 ай бұрын
Can you see that huge black triangle next to gaza in the partition plan of Palestine? Its called the Negev desert and it is qlmost impossible to live in. The Palestinians didnt want it. That is why the Israel got "more" land than Palestine in the initial partian plan.
@geofflepper3207
@geofflepper3207 8 ай бұрын
Why should the white European Jewish Zionists have gotten any Palestinian land? White European and North American politicians had no right to give away Palestinian land. Imagine if a bunch of African politicians decided to give away over half of British land to a group of African colonists. Would that seem right to you?
@Elliott_Wave
@Elliott_Wave 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the educational videos.
@anantsriv
@anantsriv 10 ай бұрын
You easily glossed over who started the war each time and what led to Israel occupying more land.
@RiseoftheLibertarian
@RiseoftheLibertarian 10 ай бұрын
I find it interesting those complaining about Israel breaking international law which is set by the UN but it was the UN that gave Israel the greenlight to govern the land. They claim what right did Britain and the UN have while screaming Israel is violating international law. You have to pick a side, you can't have it both ways.
@mohis4299
@mohis4299 10 ай бұрын
UN can't predict the future lol. Even if they knew it, they will still give the stolen land to Israel. Who is behind the UN?
@ziadhaddadin5804
@ziadhaddadin5804 9 ай бұрын
Palestine is one country with Palestinian and Jewish as before ,used to live together.
@nonox3903
@nonox3903 5 ай бұрын
So a majority muslim stat with no human rights. What a nice dream.
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice 4 ай бұрын
Quick fact check - One Hamas official stated they would agree to a 5 year truce if Palestinian statehood were granted along the 1967 borders. This is not stated in any formal declaration. The conflation is with the Hamas 2017 General Principles which states that Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine, and that the territory of Jerusalem is defined by the city lines drawn June 4th, 1967. This is not a formal acceptance of the 1967 borders between Israel and Palestine. In fact, that exact text says exactly the opposite and reads: 19. There shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the Zionist entity. Whatever has befallen the land of Palestine in terms of occupation, settlement building, judaisation or changes to its features or falsification of facts is illegitimate. Rights never lapse. 20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.
@kajonyjony1683
@kajonyjony1683 10 ай бұрын
How articulately represent and so nicely you are. thanks for clear this matter
@isugeayub9707
@isugeayub9707 10 ай бұрын
Not for Israel land
@mangloreanwithabeard
@mangloreanwithabeard 10 ай бұрын
Jews existed in Isreal even before islam came into existence 500 years after Christianity, whole Israel belongs to the jews ... No two states solutions...only Israel the Holy Land of David ✝️🇮🇱✡️🕎
@JoeGoogol
@JoeGoogol 10 ай бұрын
This has for some time seemed the most obvious take away from everything we have learned. Its utterly bizzare to me that people are still fighting over partitions that few agree upon, as opposed to focusing on human rights and style of government.
@stephencoke6386
@stephencoke6386 3 күн бұрын
Sorry but the real Palestinians are the Jews and some Arabs living there. To call Jews occupiers is a total lie. You should be ashamed of yourself for lying.
@jasonsmall5602
@jasonsmall5602 9 ай бұрын
They left out the part about Jordan being part of Palestine. There's already a two state solution.
@geofflepper3207
@geofflepper3207 8 ай бұрын
Some big problems with that. First of all white European politicians had no right to give away any Palestinian land to Zionists. Imagine if a bunch of African politicians declared that they were giving away over half of France to a group of African colonists and that thus all French people in that territory must leave. See how crazy that sounds? Secondly, there has never been a two state solution anywhere else in the world where white European imperialists invaded so it seems very unlikely to happen. There's no white colonist Kenyan state or white colonist Vietnamese state or white colonist Indonesian state. There's only one Kenya, one Vietnam and one Indonesia. And in places such as the United States where the settlers are the majority there is also only one state in which everyone has equal rights. Finally, you may want to claim that the Palestinians are Jordanian but that's not up to you. They've made clear that they are Palestinians and that they want to continue living in their homeland of Palestine. Strike three for you.
@judithm.2399
@judithm.2399 10 ай бұрын
I beg to differ with the comment made at 15:35. There ARE credible Palestinian leaders who have demonstrated in real ways motivation to create a Palestinian society which is unified in its understanding, respect for and acceptance of its internal diversity; who have lived their deep commitment to the physical, psychological and spiritual health of all Palestinians, especially the most vulnerable ones; who are intellectually and politically knowledgeable, astute and strategic regarding the history of the Palestinian people and what has worked and not worked on their behalf over the past 75 years. One such person is Dr. Mustafa Barghouti. And there are many others. Perhaps someone else can suggest Israeli leaders of the same calibre. I don’t know what the solution is -one state or two state or something else. True leadership is first needed of course. With committed and true Palestinian leadership the Palestinian people will be able to have free and fair elections to decide for themselves, as is their right.
@BlueEagleSG
@BlueEagleSG 7 ай бұрын
A 2 state solution is impossible Can Israel move to USA since they love them so much? It’s not possible. There will only be peace if Osraelli move back to the place they came from and return the land back to Palestine
@YourAverageYoutubeCommentor
@YourAverageYoutubeCommentor 13 күн бұрын
where do they return?
@zohaibmanzoor3173
@zohaibmanzoor3173 8 ай бұрын
4:11 Correction please!! Arabs didn't lose the patience until nakba, A catastrope that lead the arabs to finally launch an operation even though the Jordianian king then mentioned that the point of return had been abolished as the jewish terror groups crossed the limits, did ethnic cleansing of unarmed villagers even without any militant activity!! That actually intensified the violence sponsored through jewish government collteral terror activities!!!
@phillipblair9511
@phillipblair9511 10 ай бұрын
"Land grabbing and peacemaking don't go together" - Avi Shlaim
@leopoldmadsen4274
@leopoldmadsen4274 10 ай бұрын
Palestinians had their opportunity with a two state solution but refused lol. Too bad
@thomassherwood5061
@thomassherwood5061 9 ай бұрын
Obviously it's completely different, but the Good Friday agreement specifically says that they're not trying to answer the Northern Ireland question, they just want the answer to come politically not violently
@TheMomeni
@TheMomeni 3 ай бұрын
There'll never be a Palestine , Jordan is Palestine. Move now please. Love to Israel from Iran ✌️🇮🇱♥️
@polpol1005
@polpol1005 9 ай бұрын
Some people criticize Hamas and call them "terrorists". But do they know that it was Netanyahu who wanted a stronger Hamas in order to divide Palestinians? If any party other than Hamas were in power in Gaza right now, it might have tried to lobby for international support for the Palestinians of East Jerusalem a few days or weeks longer before launching rockets on Israel. But seeing its fellow countrymen and women made homeless, time and time again, would ultimately have forced the hand of even a non-Hamas government in Gaza, either drawing it into the fight or making it so unpopular for not getting involved that it’d be forced out of power. That’s why to focus on Hamas is to miss the point, and to reinforce the myth that the conflict is, in some fundamental manner, about the group.
@LoverofHistory3000
@LoverofHistory3000 9 ай бұрын
Hamas' motto is literally a verse from a holy Muslim book saying to kill all Jews. 1. Why would Israel support that? 2. That 100% makes them terrorists
@douchebagguette2717
@douchebagguette2717 9 ай бұрын
@@LoverofHistory3000 israel would support hamas because this gives israel 1) an excuse to wipe all palestinians from palestine by calling all of them terrorists ------ which you are already doing! and 2) allows israel to get HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars in weapon systems for free from the USA, by constantly pointing at hamas as a threat to them
@Muhammad-HarDick
@Muhammad-HarDick 5 ай бұрын
It was the palestinians who voted for hamas
@polpol1005
@polpol1005 5 ай бұрын
@@Muhammad-HarDick because other choices were even worse
@calmvibes101
@calmvibes101 10 ай бұрын
Informative
@chriscarson1256
@chriscarson1256 7 ай бұрын
Religion, what is it good for? Nothing but war.
@PakeezaNawab-m1l
@PakeezaNawab-m1l 5 ай бұрын
Al Jazeera appreciated work Full supporting from depth of my heart.your work is remarkable.
@TBoy1247
@TBoy1247 9 ай бұрын
Should be pointed out that more than 50% of what is shown as southern Isreal is the Negev desert and basically unhabitable. Using the term "historic homeland" is at least debatable.
@alextabet9247
@alextabet9247 4 ай бұрын
Uninhabitable? The UAE is 10 times more uninhabitable than the Negev desert and they have turned that sand heap into the wealthiest country on earth. There is no such thing as uninhabitable. Also, while the Israel was given some of the more arid parts of Palestine, it was also given most of the more fertile and irrigable lands as well.
@TBoy1247
@TBoy1247 4 ай бұрын
@@alextabet9247 But there is no oil in the Negev.
@alextabet9247
@alextabet9247 4 ай бұрын
@@TBoy1247 but what percentage of Israelis live in the Negev? 6 million live in the Tel Aviv and Jerusalem areas combined, and almost another million live in the West Bank. Only 10% of Israelis live in the Negev. Also, while the Negev has no oil, it receives subsidies and incentives from the Israeli government, which is very wealthy. The UAE is not all wealthy, nor is their oil in all parts of the UAE. In fact, of the 7 emirates, only the Emirate of Abu Dhabi has oil. Dubai is very wealthy thanks to trade, not oil. the remaining emirates are not wealthy, and are subsidized by the UAE government, much like the Negev. But the Negev is not uninhabitable.
@JohnSmith-uc9cr
@JohnSmith-uc9cr 10 ай бұрын
Long live Israel - cry all you want.
@R13WHEELER
@R13WHEELER 10 ай бұрын
There will never be two states, Israel is one country and can't be divided. People need to live in peace or move to a country that they can find like minded people
@maxixe3143
@maxixe3143 10 ай бұрын
Great idea! I propose that since Israelis have proven they can't live in peace with their neighbors, they should all move to Germany, Austria, or South Africa. That's what you were suggesting too, right?
@kurolap7882
@kurolap7882 10 ай бұрын
@@maxixe3143 actually Israel has proved they can live in peace with Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia.... all countries that were trying destroy it 50 years ago. As the saying goes. If the Arabs put down there weapons there would be peace. If the Jews put down there weapons, there would be no more Israel.
@shadowpros-lx7lb
@shadowpros-lx7lb 10 ай бұрын
@@maxixe3143 It's always arabs who started the war not Israel. Actually palestinian people first aren;t ready to live with peace with them.
@TheHunIL
@TheHunIL 10 ай бұрын
@@maxixe3143 you know there are arabs in israel right? with members in the knesset and a poitical demonstration. Every muslim country around us acknowledge we are here and we are here to stay and they (pal/gaz) refuse to do it. don't you think this is the biggest problem? we did peace with all the countries around us including UAE and almost with saudi arabia but the palestinians refuse to acknowledge israel, do you understand how ridicolous this is? they just need to get over it and they'll be fine.
@oscar407
@oscar407 10 ай бұрын
@@maxixe3143 Jews tried to live in Germany, it didn't end very well
@sbk2041
@sbk2041 8 ай бұрын
The game of using % of land is MISLEADING , most of land was dessert. Use population ,& inhabitable land, SO the 48 partition favored the Palestinians,.
@SilverSprings1997
@SilverSprings1997 10 ай бұрын
That land was stolen. Again and again!
@Tyronepowerful
@Tyronepowerful 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 stolen from who ??? Does it not belong to the one who made it? So who made it ?
@SilverSprings1997
@SilverSprings1997 10 ай бұрын
Who made it? God? No such thing. When you stop believing in fairytales, we can have a serious discussion, kiddo.@@Tyronepowerful
@silvia-vm7fe
@silvia-vm7fe 10 ай бұрын
yes, by the Arab invaders
@plantagenet122
@plantagenet122 17 күн бұрын
​@@SilverSprings1997jews are the real owners
@Comment27560
@Comment27560 9 ай бұрын
disclaimer guys: this channel is funded by quatar which is the same which supports hamas so obv there will be bais in this channel
@olivercetus6956
@olivercetus6956 4 ай бұрын
As if everything else that isn’t aljazeera isn’t pro Israeli
@bilalahmadfatih7657
@bilalahmadfatih7657 29 күн бұрын
Very exclusive, thank you!
@JosephProsnitz1
@JosephProsnitz1 8 ай бұрын
What a fine piece of propoganda. Mostly true. Incredibly misleading. Somethings are omitted like that jordan was part of the british mandate of palestine and is today over 80% palestian in demographics. Effectively there is a palestinian state. Other stats like the population percentage instead of the whole population total. In the 1920s (arabs and jews) totalled under 1 million people instead of the weird percentage breakdown they give. The land now supports more than 10x that number. The arabs who identify as palestinian have seen a huge surge in population growth. Israel has around 2 million arabs who are citizens, more than double the initial population of the land. Effectively there was a regional land transfer as about half of the jewish population of israel were refugees/imigrants from iraq, yemen, syria etc. There has been continuous violence from the arabs in the form of terrorism, wars, and more exotic stragies like lawfare and propoganda like this video. The palestian arabs have even tried to start multiple coups in other arab states. The palestians have created a whole economy of victimhood. They have been terrible neighbors and their constant fountain of lies and half truths is exhausting. Their politicians are corrupt. They have reconstructed history and removed the long and continuous heritage of the judean people today known as the jews. There are so many elements of deception in the narrative. At the end of the day the jewish people remade our ancient kindom from a land largely in ruin. When countries have really wanted peace like egypt or jordan there was peace. The palestinian arabs do no want peace. So yes they will suffer because they continue to make war. The hard work of making peace seems beyond the other side.
@PandaMovieMania
@PandaMovieMania 10 ай бұрын
i agree, one state solutions is more legit. like my country as many ethnic and religion live harmony together as one Nation named is Indonesia . "Bhinneka Tunggal Ika" but yet, it's not simple and easy to do, need more action on both community. I'm praying there's no more war, no more innocent people died and they can live together, Amen.
@brendonfernandes2877
@brendonfernandes2877 9 ай бұрын
Israel doesn't want a terrorist state next to theirs and you think Israel giving up control over their lives to these same terrorists and putting them in charge will somehow work ? That's the most illogical idea I can think off. There is a greater chance of no peace solution than a one state solution.
@jenkrash8122
@jenkrash8122 10 ай бұрын
1:25 "israel war" hamas give this war a name al-aqca flood . they were headed to jeruselm. more like hamas war then israel war
@lionelbradley4394
@lionelbradley4394 3 ай бұрын
Joshua 24:23 KJV - Now therefore put away, said he, the strange gods which are among you, and incline your heart unto the LORD God of Israel.
@SabasitenAkter
@SabasitenAkter 10 ай бұрын
Great content
@boyozgreatman6569
@boyozgreatman6569 8 ай бұрын
Who are the Palestinians? Is it a tribe? What's their indigenous language or they're Arabs who migrated from Syria and other Arab state. These questions need to be answered.
@H00618
@H00618 4 ай бұрын
Whoever they are, its the people who occupied the land being claimed by jewish people as their ancestral homeland. These people have rights and are humans too. You can't just get rid of them just because the bible or torah says it theirs. Guess what, the americans were british people that invaded american indian lands. There has to be some compromise
@I_am_somebody_1234
@I_am_somebody_1234 3 ай бұрын
"Palestinian" is an umbrella term meant for the muslim (mostly arabic) people who inhabited the lands of Palestine (originally delimited by the borders of the Brittish Mandate of Palestine, pre 1947 partition), and their descendants. It includes those descendants live in current day Palestine (West Bank + Gaza), those who live inside Israel, or outside of those 2 entirely (as refugees in neighboring countries for example).
@ghoraxe9000
@ghoraxe9000 9 ай бұрын
How about a 3 state solution... The 3rd is a in-between buffer zone where both can enter and cooperate .. this would provide a bigger barrier too
@unleashedpokegamer3314
@unleashedpokegamer3314 3 ай бұрын
In the situation of 3 State Solution, that would be State of Israel, State of Palestine (might be under Palestinian Authority) and Islamic State of Gaza Strip (Hamas).
@lrod5245
@lrod5245 5 ай бұрын
Excellent. Thank you for the video and the final position.
@kennethewan9991
@kennethewan9991 10 ай бұрын
Who was main influence for Palestinian Arabs and the neighbouring Arab countries in rejecting the 1947 UN partition plan? It was Haj Amin al-Husseini, a former mufti and Waffen SS recruiter. He was the leader of revolts in the 1920s and 1930s. Having met Hitler and being a friend of Himmler, don’t you think he knew about the Holocaust?
@alextabet9247
@alextabet9247 10 ай бұрын
You have to love revisionist history. Your conspiracy theory has been debunked by all credible Israeli historians.
@Ajayaaju2
@Ajayaaju2 5 ай бұрын
We Indians reject the two state solution..There is only Israel 🇮🇱 no Palestine
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 5 ай бұрын
And what can India do? Nothing, just like the Arab countries. You third world countries need to step back in your place.
@allovdem
@allovdem 5 ай бұрын
Phull sappert sir? 😂😂
@douglasb5046
@douglasb5046 3 ай бұрын
U speak for a billion Indians?
@happyliramu
@happyliramu 2 ай бұрын
Why 2 State....? only Palestine should be there.... Israel lost its recognition in the heart of people...
@arnelarguellesfabila4586
@arnelarguellesfabila4586 5 ай бұрын
Golda Meir 1970: “The quarrel between Arabs and Jews is not about a piece OF land. It is the refusal OF Arabs to accept that Israel has the right to its homeland.”
@userxyz64
@userxyz64 4 ай бұрын
@@arnelarguellesfabila4586 Golda Mier's statement is an oxymoron, if ever there was one. A Women who are awarded a Palestinian passport and welcomed to Palestine having the cheek to claim a superior title to the place. LOL! The irony.
@ysha7971
@ysha7971 10 ай бұрын
The trouble is the borders! Jerusalem should be international with an airport where everybody could go directly. The ruling should be organised with representatives of each religion. If Palestinians can't return to their homes they should get compensation. Everything is possible if it is fair.
@BertWithoutErnie
@BertWithoutErnie 9 ай бұрын
But everybody wants it all. 😂😂😂 Them pride!
@jamesgollan8602
@jamesgollan8602 5 ай бұрын
There was a two state solution put in place in 1922 which became Jordan and Israel
@jeannierosenfeld2312
@jeannierosenfeld2312 8 ай бұрын
There are so many issues with this report, perhaps at the top of the list that it pretends to be balanced. It was not actually "Palestinians" who rejected the establishment of Israel in their "ancestral homeland" (Jews and Christians who lives there then also had Palestinian passports) but the surrounding Arab nations (including Jordan, which was created at the same time) objecting to the Jewish people resettling unoccupied portions of their ancestral homeland. There was a great plenty of violence against Jews before 1948 and in fact the Arab population rose after Zionists started developing the land while Jews were barred entry and in many cases sent back to Europe to be murdered. Also, it's disingenuous to explain the partition plan by percentage of population and land not only for this reason but bc the majority of land given to Jews was swamp and desert, along with towns and cities that they did indeed build from scratch or where there were Jewish majorities. If you're going to try to really explain the two state solution and contribute to actual solutions you'll have to be a bit more honest.
@davidreichert9392
@davidreichert9392 9 ай бұрын
Simple fact: not being able to live side by side with other people who are culturally different (somewhat) to you is just plain stupid. Now looking forward to hearing different people saying that only the Israelis or Palestinians are guilty of this, as though such stupidity doesn't exist on the other side.
@suzukigsxfa9683
@suzukigsxfa9683 10 ай бұрын
One state.
@ruthcollins2841
@ruthcollins2841 10 ай бұрын
Palestine as Hebrews shoukd return to where they come from - Mesopotamia.
@D-E-S_8559
@D-E-S_8559 10 ай бұрын
UNRECOGNIZE those who do not recognize others... UNRECOGNIZE those who do not recognize the law.... Such an act is not difficult, complex or complicated ....
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