Is Aemond Targaryen the Father of Helaena's Children? (House of the Dragon Theory Explained)

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JellyJugz

JellyJugz

Күн бұрын

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@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Жыл бұрын
So you may be wondering why the video seems to be edited weirdly, well I was give a copyright claim so I had to trim things out, but luckily the video still has all the important info so sorry for the inconvenience.
@maylynbayani
@maylynbayani Жыл бұрын
When Jace asked Hel to dance, Aemond looks so triggered that Aegon looked to him, as if anticipating a reaction from HIM! Which is odd because Aegon is the husband.
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Жыл бұрын
I really do believe this theory is true! So many subtle things throughout season 1
@luvprue1
@luvprue1 Жыл бұрын
I think so too. In the world of ice and fire it seems like Aemond cared more about Helena than Aegon.
@EmmaSoyer72
@EmmaSoyer72 5 ай бұрын
​@@JellyJugzAemond is actually 16 and he is younger than Helaena. It wouldn't mzke sense for him to be the father of the children. Helaena's actress herself said this ship never was in the script.
@cheonsaa8185
@cheonsaa8185 Жыл бұрын
You missed when Otto left helaena's room, alicent called him uttering the word "Father", then the twins suddenly muttered something that sound like Aemond, which is then followed by Aemond entering the room; and knowing Helaena is a dragon dreamer, her children might be one as well and saw the coming of Aemond or they gave hints by mentioning aemond when the they heard the word Father.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
Nah, it was Aegon. People have heard this before, and it was Aegon
@browniebear
@browniebear Жыл бұрын
1 twin says "Aemond" and the other says "Aegon". It's also only *just* audible and occurs right after Alicent calls "Father". This was clearly intentional by the crew to further create doubt on the parentage of Jaehaerys and Jaehaera. Maybe they just see Aemond as their father cause he helps take care of them in Aegon's absence and negligence. Or maybe Aemond is their real father after all...
@dnisse5216
@dnisse5216 Жыл бұрын
that wasnt helaena room
@maylynbayani
@maylynbayani Жыл бұрын
​@@browniebearno, it was definitely Aemond. Aegon is pronounced as "Egg-on" hence his nickname "Egg".
@maylynbayani
@maylynbayani Жыл бұрын
​@@thalmoragent9344 Aegon is pronounced as "Egg-on" not "Eygon". There was a prominent "Ey" sound on both times the twins called his name.
@anaclarisaarrosio9192
@anaclarisaarrosio9192 Жыл бұрын
Aemond cares more about Heleana than Aegon, Aemond looks more like a husband than his brother, i hope it is true
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
Nah mate, Aemond's character doesn't fit this narrative, nor does the title scene of the show
@heartlesslove9084
@heartlesslove9084 Жыл бұрын
​@thalmoragent9344 book and show are not the same dude they already made a lot changes in aemond and helaena's characters I won't be surprised if they show how siblings preferre each other in season 2.
@Elizabeth-hc3mi
@Elizabeth-hc3mi 6 ай бұрын
I think Aegon does care about Haelena, but more as a sister (yeah he calls her weird, but who hasn't called their sister weird before?)
@EmmaSoyer72
@EmmaSoyer72 5 ай бұрын
​@@Elizabeth-hc3miAemond is actually 16 and he is younger than Helaena. It wouldn't mzke sense for him to be the father of the children. Helaena's actress herself said this ship never was in the script.
@Laramaria2
@Laramaria2 Жыл бұрын
I'll stand by any theory that says Helaena found any good thing in her life 😅
@maylynbayani
@maylynbayani Жыл бұрын
In the books, they died the same day. Aemond died and she jumped to her death by sunset.
@Anna-uq6wr
@Anna-uq6wr Жыл бұрын
Yes they did! So few people seem to notice this fact and I really don’t think this is accidental and hints at their bond being very significant.
@luvprue1
@luvprue1 Жыл бұрын
Good point ! She probably killed herself after finding out that Aemond died. She probably knew it, felt it.
@KelbiFrugia
@KelbiFrugia 9 ай бұрын
And in the book, the Black's kill Haelena's son in exchange for Luke's death. And quoted "a son for a son". Wouldn't it be fitting that it was actually Aemond's son, since Aemond committed the crime?
@Divine_Chareka
@Divine_Chareka Жыл бұрын
0:41 bro said I would smash 😂
@jessicabrewer89
@jessicabrewer89 Жыл бұрын
I'm disgusting bc i want this to be true hahahaha. Another clue is she lets him touch her. She doesn't even let her mother touch her... she does touch others, but she seems to want to have his Aemond's touch
@TheElochai
@TheElochai Жыл бұрын
Would it be too much to want them to be a close brother sister pair without incest?
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Жыл бұрын
Yes lol no it could be that they are just close it’s just that scene when he was younger is what I keep going back to
@TheElochai
@TheElochai Жыл бұрын
@@JellyJugz I feel it can go either way really.
@lindsaydrewe8219
@lindsaydrewe8219 Жыл бұрын
Somehow I find Brother and sister incest less disturbing than uncle niece. Possibly it’s the age gap,after all he knew her as a baby while being an adult. Siblings brought up meanwhile in weird( let’s face it) circumstances would naturally feel that they can turn to each other,the only ones they really trust. Aegon got all the attention while the younger pair were seen as a bit defective. Whatever , Aemond obviously cares for her the most
@xmynationalanthemx
@xmynationalanthemx 11 ай бұрын
Bruh they’re literally Targaryens. Incest is what they do.
@beckerboyssd8780
@beckerboyssd8780 Жыл бұрын
100% accurate, Aemond boned his sis and all those kids are his. Daemon knows too, that we had the oldest killed. 💯
@matiasrodriguez7408
@matiasrodriguez7408 Жыл бұрын
I would like the show to make the change and that Aemond be the father of Helaena's children, he deserves to be an ancestor of the Targaryens much more than Aegon
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Жыл бұрын
True Aegon is a bit of a prick lol and it is Aemond the younger brother who studies history and philosophy, it is he who trains with the sword, who rides the largest dragon in the world
@NoName-wn4df
@NoName-wn4df Жыл бұрын
Them changing Aemond to Helaena’s childrens father has no impact on making him a more of a ‘Targaryen ancestor’ 😂 He is the exact same amount of ‘Targaryen ancestor’ as both Aegon and Helaena, there’s a difference between a Targaryen ruler (which both Aegon and Helaena were) and ancestor for starters so even if he was their father he wouldn’t be ruler because he isn’t king.
@matiasrodriguez7408
@matiasrodriguez7408 Жыл бұрын
@@NoName-wn4df You are rationalizing it too much, I just say that they should make the change because it would be better (Aegon is an idiot, Aemond was actually the one who took the war and the responsibility on his shoulders)
@nessawalls
@nessawalls Жыл бұрын
Makes sense i mean a son for son the blood and cheese makes more sense
@Dani_1012
@Dani_1012 Жыл бұрын
Especially the fight with Daemon later makes more sense with this theory
@jenniferjames346
@jenniferjames346 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if in the books, Maelor is Aegon’s son and the twins are Aemond’s. Blood and cheese asked Heleana which son she wanted to lose, and hesitantly she chose Maelor. Maybe she picked Maelor because Jaehaerys was next in line to the throne, or maybe because he wasn’t Aemond’s son.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
Nah, even in the Opening Credit Scene, its clear that the kids are Aegon's and Helaena's. For one, it doesn't fit Aemond's character within context of his family to do this. With Alys Rivers, sure, but Helaena? His married sister? The Opening Scene also shows how Rhaenyra's and Harwin's bloodlines cross, not Laenor's, so its clear we would've seen bastardy in evidence there... and we don't for Aemond and Helaena.
@Allthingsasian
@Allthingsasian Жыл бұрын
In the show opening Harwin’s sigil is not there it is Laenor’s, and the same for Aegon and Helaena. The opening credits just show the ‘official’ succession. For instance many believed Aenys to be a bastard.
@alittlewoowoo2214
@alittlewoowoo2214 Жыл бұрын
A dragon takes what it wants. Aemond is riding who again?
@xmynationalanthemx
@xmynationalanthemx 11 ай бұрын
Lmfao they’re not gonna have Jaehaerys & Jaehaera come out of Aemond & Helaena’s bloodline in S1. That would’ve been a huge ass spoiler. Wait for S2.
@tylerbonin8408
@tylerbonin8408 6 ай бұрын
She kills herself after Aemond dies. Sounds like something a babymama does
@FraBra88
@FraBra88 Жыл бұрын
He seemed bothered when Jace invited Healena to dance, more so then Agon...but that would make Healena less noble and a traitor, I don't think it is the case
@Caliandlinus
@Caliandlinus Ай бұрын
I think he was bothered, yes, but only cause he felt it humiliated his brother, and to him, the rivalry between him, his brother, and nephews were real. He loved his sister. However, i feel he distanced himself from the other siblings whenever he could.
@EmmaSoyer72
@EmmaSoyer72 5 ай бұрын
Aemond is actually 16 and he is younger than Helaena. It wouldn't mzke sense for him to be the father of the children. Helaena's actress herself said this ship never was in the script.
@alaye5583
@alaye5583 5 ай бұрын
Yall hate Aegon because he wasn’t attracted to his sister
@thepurpleone5959
@thepurpleone5959 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@marissarose1667
@marissarose1667 Жыл бұрын
I feel like that would be cool but their family is so concerned with being “legitimate” and they care a lot about specific children being bastards, so it would be a little out of character for them
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Жыл бұрын
True I really don’t have an argument for that but as Jaime Lannister once said “We don't get to choose whom we love It's beyond our control”
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, even the title shows that their kids are legitimate
@MissAllWednesday
@MissAllWednesday Жыл бұрын
I think it would narratively work as a form of grand irony, especially since Alicent is so obsessed about illegitimate children from Rhaenyra.
@browniebear
@browniebear Жыл бұрын
​@@MissAllWednesdayYeah & Aemond isn't above being a hypocrite. If Aegon II eventually lost the throne (thru death or whatever else), a decision would be made to crown Jaehaerys (or Aemond possibly). At this point if it's little Jae, Aemond could act as his regent until Jae comes of age OR confess Jae is a bastard which then makes Aemond king which then means he can legitimize Helena's children as his own and heirs & marry Helaena (if Aegon is dead or lost in Essos). It's scandalous yeah, but Aemond rides Vhagar and since when is there not drama in this storyline? He could very well have had an affair with Helaena which results in the twins (and Maelor if he exists in HotD) & justify it in his own head meanwhile Rhaenyra remains the "whore" (which is true but it doesn't change Aemond being a hypocrite which is a running concept in this story).
@Allthingsasian
@Allthingsasian Жыл бұрын
I mean GRRM loves irony in his stories so I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to include Aemond being the father of Helaena’s kids.
@Divine_Chareka
@Divine_Chareka Жыл бұрын
Love your videos man, keep it up 👏👏
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That really means a lot! :)
@brookelawrence6740
@brookelawrence6740 Жыл бұрын
yes, he is. hope that helps
@annicures
@annicures 5 ай бұрын
The twins appear to look more like Aemond than aegon.
@ninaxwings
@ninaxwings Жыл бұрын
I wish she would just take her kids and dreamfyre and flee to go live with the blacks. She didn’t do anything to them I think she’d be given refuge
@heartlesslove9084
@heartlesslove9084 Жыл бұрын
You are delulu thinking she ll be safe with the blacks when she ll the most stupidest person to ever take decision to let herself and her children any harm.
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo Жыл бұрын
This
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 Жыл бұрын
This is par for the course in the Targaryen family
@leahpalacios4724
@leahpalacios4724 Жыл бұрын
In the books it doesn't say anything if aemond is the father of Helenas children i Don’t know maybe Helena and aemond are just close
@baslatz_
@baslatz_ Жыл бұрын
i wish it to be true.
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Жыл бұрын
I as well, I think it would be a cool twist but I suppose we will find out next season
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
​@@JellyJugz I doubt it'll happen
@persephone342
@persephone342 8 ай бұрын
Why say it’s a son for a son unless it’s literal? When you go biblical, you tend to mean literal interpretations. It wasn’t Alicent’s son, it was Helena’s. If they do it, this will be the the twist.
@sad_dad
@sad_dad Жыл бұрын
Hope it ends up being true
@JellyJugz
@JellyJugz Жыл бұрын
I think it would be a good twist that would shock some people so here’s to hoping
@frances3705
@frances3705 6 ай бұрын
Does it really matter..they both are her brothers.
@noone5245
@noone5245 5 ай бұрын
Shipping incests. How low we all have fallen 😔
@margrett-jasmynstevens6872
@margrett-jasmynstevens6872 6 ай бұрын
You no what i find made there father kne of the best kkngs . Because HE NEW DAMN WELL his grandboys from the sea snakes famiky .... he new they werent targarines . But he still stood jdxt to his daughter and snapped THAT FIGHT THERE . FATHERS TAKE NOTE. LOL
@Lowros
@Lowros 5 ай бұрын
No
@mitchwall6002
@mitchwall6002 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully he is the father
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