Is Air Suspension the best Suspension Ever?

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In the past I've thought of air suspension as a modification reserved for trucks, low riders, and show cars. But what about sports cars? Is it possible to have the look you want at a show, the handling you want at the limit, and the practicality of clearing speed bumps and driveways? The guys from Accuair Suspensions say there is, so we put their Audi S4 to the test.
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[@KevinMay71]

It's droppin' down I'm yelling CAMBER You better move You better stance You hit a bump, you won't remember This is a car you won't forget ;) Just for you, Matt. I know you liked this one. From Kevin, the guy at the Gran Turismo party.

[@downshift51]

Lol bumpy west coast road = perfect east coast road. Bumpy east coast road = Moon

[@tmg176]

i see i've never been to Poland

[@verdunian595]

Facts, the roads here in New York make you feel like you're driving on an unpaved road in yemen

[@Russell_and_Rosko]

LA is known for low quality pavement, the road repairs are of low quality typically. If your car is slammed and you don’t know the area…LA has the potential to break your car…even moderately low cars get destroyed going legal speeds through intersections with deep dips or hitting giant 6+” deep holes that eat big wheels. I love me some sidewall and rally car ride height. Safari builds are where it’s at now.

[@ATCRyderX]

Do want. Do not want to pay.

[@ATCRyderX]

Uncel Dolan I didn't want to be mean but I'm glad someone pointed that out. FaceBook & KZbin have no place for "hashtags" (or the Numerical Symbol as an Adult lacking Nignorance would call it).

[@EyebrowsMahoney]

ATCRyderX Actually, if you really want to start getting semantic with it, it is called a number sign in Canada, Pound sign in the US, Hash (Hatch) outside the US (among others like Hex, Cross, Crosshatch...) , and it's origination as a published name is "Octotherp" later Octothorpe by the Bell Corporation in the 70's. My point is, While "hashtag" has become the new name for it despite "hashtag" being a name for the whole tag including the "hash"... Calling it a "Numerical Symbol" (while passive aggressively insulting others in the process) is technically ignorant by your own definition. Fundamentally, who really cares? It's a hash/hatch/cross/hex/crosshatch/pound/number sign vis-à-vis octothorpe!

[@LowFlyinOK]

***** ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ ✈ I see you peepin' all my G6s, son!

[@brightsun11]

***** coilovers

[@DuBstep115]

Companys like g.a.s. and ta technix sell complete air suspension setups for 1800e.

[@RadostinVelchev]

And you call this road bumpy? It seems that you have never been to Eastern Europe :D

[@buca9696]

That road is baby bottom smooth compared to the shit we have here, hehe.

[@censoredviking]

The same goes for Norway! Shit roads all over!

[@Frosty4Real]

Alexander Olsen ditto ^^

[@buca9696]

Alexander Olsen For real? I thought northern countries had a better infrastructure.

[@censoredviking]

tavi921​ we are the richest country in the world, but our goverment wont use anything on infrastructure.

[@RD2Edits]

I love it how he thinks that is a rough road. Come to England and that road will seem extremely smooth :)

[@613TRAPSTAR]

I was thinking the same and I'm in Canada and that right there seems like a really nice road LOL

[@RD2Edits]

:D :D :D

[@BestragaGdeSi]

I don't really have to say too much about Serbian roads..

[@FireBlazeKush]

In his defense that's the roughsest road he knows

[@OD3ANW4VY]

I was thinking the same in New York nothing but pot holes

[@mrD15A5T3R]

I have this set up on my 06 Audi S4 and I love it. Did a custom install and it helps when you know a guy at AccuAir to answer questions. I have had no alignment issues or anything like that. Once the e-level was installed I took my car to a local tire shop and they did my alignment easily. I don't have excessive tire wear at all.

[@HighSpeedManiaNet]

Damn, this is one amazing looking S4. And the air suspension is pretty cool too!

[@bbqboy709]

Is it reliable? Does it have a dryer for the compressor? Do you need to drain the air tank daily?

[@NoFuk]

These canyons reminds me of old good Need For Speed series.

[@IaintTrynaGoOutLikeBIGnPAC]

Need for speed 3 hot pursuit

[@The247th]

Compared to other options in the market, 5 grand is def worth it. You get all the flexibility you could ever want in 99% scenarios. And the fact you get to keep stock suspension and don't have to mod the car too much, I'd be a happy camper.

[@eivis13]

+The247th 99% Scenarios where? Also it's like 5 grand every year where i live. In other words impractical and coilovers are cheaper and simpler.

[@eivis13]

+larry_the_villan yes, we usually get lots of snow during the winter, freezing temperatures (-25C to -10C) and occasionally rain (more so before December and after February). So in return we have shit loads of salt and gravel on roads.

Nobody needs coilovers on the road. Get separate shocks and springs.

[@Snafu2346]

this seems actually practical. I'm with Farah, I've always associated air suspension for compromised comfort beaters. Not in the context of "performance." I'm still not totally sold on this idea for use on "sporty" applications. It did seem to hold up well on those canyon roads, but what about long term? The consistency of conventional suspension is pretty predictable but how would the air suspension hold of if its a weekend occasional track car? Doing laps around local tracks? Would there be significant heat build up in the air system that would lead to failure would be my fear. Then again most likely a weekend track car/scca solo event car probably wouldn't have air suspension. But if a air suspension COULD withstand it, the practicality side of it and potential performance side of it and dynamic of combining the two would be fantastic. Other questions I also pondered is the amount of hardware that seemed to need to be added to the vehicle to use such system. It seemed like a lot of parts, all of which look very heavy, even an extra tank to hold air seems like a lot of added weight. I personally hate adding extra unnecessary weight as I feel it inhibits all the characteristics that ruin a sporty car. That being said I'm glad that there is at least new ideas that spur the imagination to create system such as these, and that eventually there will be a system in place that would benefit both practicality and performance without sacrifices.

[@spendingtimetogether8428]

Seems like a neat idea, but for owners of sportcars, I dunno. Added complexity and weight and more things to break down, besides whether it can withstand constant abuse at speed. I don't like the slammed look at all and wonder why many ppl do. The main thing is to have the best performance, not a system that tries to fulfill all roles, it's just not practical or realistic.

[@TheSmokingTire]

I have a high quality coilover setup on my C5 and it rides great, never rubs, and handles awesome. It's dialed in right. But this system is much more versatile and advanced. 95% of people with these systems are hard parkers because that was the limit of the system. Now, this is the first one that's tuned for sport driving in mind, so you can have both. If you dont like slammed cars that's one thing, but that doesn't mean the system isn't amazing. Only chassis mod is 8 holes drilled in spare well

[@HightLink]

If you want bumpy roads, come in Romania, you can have a tank and still feel sorry for it.

[@HightLink]

Shithole is only 50% correct, it's actually a beautiful country, just that it has a lot more bad parts than other countries.

Dude. Every country is beautiful. Earth only has beautiful places. It's humans that make it a shithole:)

[@HightLink]

Also 50% correct, 95% are not gipsy or thief but that 5% that actually are, "work hard" to give all romanians a bad reputation.

I don't even know how that is an answer to what I said.

[@MeatWeed]

4:21 did any one catch that? when he lets off the trottle the entire tire and rim move a bit back like the bushings are worn or something

[@Patrick94GSR]

DAMN that car looks bad@$$!!! One question though, what about alignment? Ride height changes always affect alignment, especially front toe, and you can destroy some tires quick by lowering a car and having the front toe all out of whack. So I guess you just have to get the car aligned with whatever height you intend to use most? At least it makes getting on and off the alignment rack easier haha.

[@TheBeastOfTheEast54]

personally any time id touch those front struts id get another alignment

[@rizocars6115]

thats a good question, i guess if ou can afford bags u can afford tires every other moths

[@jessewest1545]

You align your setup while the system is in "setting 2". From that point forward, you would use "setting 2" as a daily driving height, "setting 1" would be full slammed for showing off, and "setting 3" is raised up to get over bumps and driveways.

[@rizocars6115]

Do you have bags jesse

[@turbo_joe]

Crixus SPARTAN Jesse is right, I am running the Airlift Performance kit on my GTI. You figure out where exactly you want your daily ride height and get an alignment done at that height.

[@jasons4741]

Exactly. Set the alignment at the typical ride height for driving and you're good to go. I have a fullsize GMC truck that's been on air for a decade now and have never had any abnormal tire wear or any other issues with it being aligned at ride height. And an air suspension that can corner is nothing new. My truck has been carving some crazy corners on air for many years now.

[@TheRealBarryR]

Rough roads...this dude has not been on balkan roads lol

[@MrSl8ya]

LOL so true!

[@lexusstefan927]

ahahaha bubrezi bi mu otkazali na nasim cestama

[@MrSl8ya]

hahahahahahha taman tako brate!

[@TheRealBarryR]

hahah a sta je je

[@GoProEK]

HAHAHAHAAH holes everywhere

[@Suicidul]

Sure air suspension is great. But the price is well out of pretty much everyones range in Australia anyway. I know someone who spent 7k on air suspension for their showcar Supra. Explain how that is right. A pair of fully adjustable coilovers are between 1-2k. Air suspension is ridiculously overpriced.

[@Shorty15c4007]

Well at least its more usable and now you have 3 cars essentially at a touch of a button. Show car Supra, nice handling Supra, and Stock daily driver Supra. Usually if you own a decent Supra, you are at least upper middle class and 7K isn't that big of a hit, especially if you're a car enthusiast.

[@Suicidul]

Shorty15c4007 Not really in Australia. Supras are cheap as chips. Got mine for 8k.

[@Shorty15c4007]

***** If thats the case, and if you need to slam a Supra to make it look good, then I think you missed the point of getting a Supra, esspecially if you're balling on a budget.

[@SI0AX]

Shorty15c4007 Yea, you shouldn't be slamming any cars that can go fast, otherwise they wont be able to go fast. That's what's awesome about this air suspension, it actually makes slamming an Audio "possible", because you don't ruin its awesome daily driver charasteristics and performance.

[@Cherry_Koolaid]

***** 7k? that doesnt sound right. If you know about air suspension you can buy parts separate from overseas etc and save a ton.

[@EvanH]

I love them S4s so much...

[@scer2]

that's bumpy? Take that setup on the crossbronx expressway and hit an audi sized pothole or a 2 foot raise in the middle of the road from the combined weight of 200,000 18 wheelers driving on it everyday ( probably delivering your air suspension).

[@philspaghet]

I got a question, will it be able to handle high speed racetrack situations and are the air springs vulnerable to leaks or punctures easily?

[@boro92]

i can tell you right now they're not intended for race use. having a suspension which changes rideheight constantly messes up alignment. A proper track alignment will only work at 1 very specific ride height--not to mention that a car should be corner balanced. the air suspension, though it looks cool, is none of these things

[@shahdogg]

Accuair sell both leveling and non leveling systems. On a vehicle intended or built for a track, you would typically install a non leveling system. For road vehicles you can install either system. Accuair supply air suspenstion systems for most makes of vehicle. The kits are engineered and designed specifically for the vehicle so there are absolutely no issues with rubbing or punctures. The system maybe subjected to air leaks depending on how well the system was installed. If its carried out by a professional installer, there a no issues guaranteed 👍

[@TheSmokingTire]

Of the three settings, only one is really for extended driving. So you align it for the middle setting, you go to the high setting briefly if you need clearance, and the low setting is just for parking. I don't imagine it would be much of an issue.

[@Mashmarriner69]

Talking serious money though. 9/10 people that buy this, the kit will be more expensive than their car lmao.

[@Mashmarriner69]

LexusReyes 2,250 is not the most expensive set I have seen, but its still alot of money. I know a couple people that have built full track day cars for less than that. Not the fastest track cars, just fun track day cars. Isn't what that's all about?

[@joshkiej6601]

+LexusReyes weird, since everyone else in the comment section says its 5k

[@Mashmarriner69]

LexusReyes yea. You're laughing but I'm not taking the piss. A mate of mine spent about that much all together. Like I said not the fastest, but not all track day cars are built for just pure speed. Like most Americans think. Sorry not $ but £. My mate built a small fun track day mx5 for very cheap. £300 for mk1 1.6 MX5. £200 Gaz gold Coilovers. £250 exhaust system (custom). £100 cams. Stripping out for free. £200 cobra racing seats. £250 Roll bar. £250 for bigger brakes. £300 wheels. £250 tyres. So about £2100 altogether. Obviously the prices aren't the exact price. But it's about what he paid all in all. Like I said not the fastest. But it's fucking fun. Also way more potential for some more power. I know I would rather spend the money on a fun little track day car, than just an airride kit. So far I'm building my Mx5 up for track use, and only spent £1000 on it all together. Yes it's old and worn out but it's the most fun I have had in a car.

[@NickBirdManeS]

+Mashmarriner69 Airrex coilovers kit for 3300,

[@Edd90k_]

+Mashmarriner69 what does that have to do with this video? this video is presenting a suspension that can be a nice medium, good on road, good at shows and still looks damn epic. no one is saying "hey look this suspension is basically as good as track suspension on a track car" or "hey for the price of this suspension I can build a track car" ?? of course you can buy an mk3 golf gti, strip it and rock around the track having fun that doesn't make this particular suspension expensive. in UK air suspension costs around £2.5k.

[@thastump]

Exactly, and by restricting the oil flow rate, you provide dampening in the same system, which can be varied by varying the restriction. If you can control it right, air is actually the best spring material, it gives a nice progressive spring rate, which you can vary by varying the pressure in the system.

[@esqu3l3to]

looks great but I prefer lowered but having the set-up for both is just fantastic.

[@TheSmokingTire]

I don't know why it would, since you don't drive it on the slammed level. That's just for parking. When you're driving, it's at a normal height and aligned accordingly.

[@stevenbenton6159]

Great looking S4! I'm glad to see that this set up handles well. How do you deal with proper wheel alignment? Seems like constant adjustment /car leveling would kill the tires?

[@xXHEELTOEXx]

Exactly. This is because this is not a replacement for your dampers...It is essentially an air spring. So, you could use Tokico Blues with these air springs to great effect, if you wanted a bit more track orientation with the ability to drop and raise at will(Which comes in more handy than most could possibly imagine). It seems he was just using the most exotic name in Suspensions that he could muster.

[@Fifou001]

it is cool but it takes space away from the trunk and adds weight

[@blahblablahbla1640]

are you that concerned about weight in a cruiser?

[@doge6763]

FIFOU DUBLED totally worth it

[@aaronespinoza5806]

it's not that heavy. and you can always shave off those lbs in other places

[@ChewsCraft]

Lol you can mount the parts in the spare tire wheel well.

[@boosted_builds_n_customs5391]

FIFOU DUBLED just take a good shit and wear nothing 😂

[@jamespriceful]

I can tell you from first hand experience driving with Reno and a few of the cars that they have built this system works perfect there stuff is top notch and they put it through its paces and they drive them everyday in every type of car truck you can think of Audi Lamborghini Chevy's,there systems have been run on the track to against top notch handling cars and did very well they have a great team.

[@ChazzKustomz]

Do they make this setup for a 1996 toyota camry?

[@donka5151]

If they did, it would cost more than your Camry.

[@atascha1914]

Are you for real.....

[@ChazzKustomz]

+Adrian T he'll yeah I'm for real. 96 Camry's are so underrated so it would be cool too see one done up right. My car has low mileage so if I had the money I would. My friend says it could be done. It's all about being out side the box & being unique. :)

[@atascha1914]

I guess its not bad if its done the right way but be prepared for all them haters

[@ChazzKustomz]

Rickrains I know it would, but due to my Camry having low miles thus being a car with rare options makes my car worth a bit more & if I had the means to do a setup like this would be unique & very cool.

[@TheSmokingTire]

That's only if it requires adjusting. If you're just driving down the highway or something by yourself, it won't be doing much in the way of pumping and making noises.

[@elsa3dany1]

991 GT3 plus this and BBS ... omg

[@Wopadas]

Fuck no. And I love bagged cars.

[@yusyzygy3512]

Mr. Mix ok.

[@reefturkey]

for a GT3 you want a cup kit which adjusts height to clear speed bumps and drive ways and does not alter handling whatsoever

[@IlIlIlIlIllIllII]

No. It is almost impossible to improve the GT3. Don't even try. The amount of engineering that goes into those cars is insane, and if you think you know better than a Porsche's engineers, you're wrong.

[@animal355]

JVpictures Just the BBS then? Porsches don't really need the help, they just need to be driven.

[@MrNit7777]

Can anybody tell me where i can get this kind of Air Suspension and installation?i live in Los Angeles,CA.

[@DuBstep115]

God that v6 sounds good :D

[@Willhgf]

Probably has an upgraded full exhaust system

[@DuBstep115]

Will S It is irrelevant to what i said. I just stated that v6 sounds good.

[@DuBstep115]

ottawabmx And? Now you tell me how you are not in full controll of the car because automatic... Go back to the stone age..

[@DuBstep115]

ottawabmx If you would stop comparing manuals to 1960`s automatics, you would realise that they are faster and consumes less fuel. And bacicly are better in anyway..

[@DuBstep115]

ottawabmx Oh pls tell me about manual more, i have never driven it... I used to like manual, then i got my fist amg mercedes... no going back to stone age.

[@Maxximtl]

What I wondered is what do you do about an alignment? Having 3 settings with so much variance will result in big changes in camber/toe. This seems like a good way to go through tires.

[@Nguyen2fold]

My question is how does this effect alignment and do you need a camber kit to tuck your wheels? Because from what I remember you have to get your car alignment every time your change your suspension height like for coilovers.

[@fuki9978]

+Hoang Nguyen i think he says in video that electronicly they adjust every time you change height

[@Nguyen2fold]

Idk man. Alignment consist of a wrench to change toe and camber. If the system does that automatically that would be awesome.

[@-tr0n]

+Hoang Nguyen you could have it aligned at stage 2 because thats where you're going to be driving. stage 1 and 3 are temporary.

[@els4006]

+Hoang Nguyen From what I understand, it does the toe and camber to whatever setting or plates you have in your wheel and suspension set up. You can see the rim in the first shot, start to camber back out as the car goes up.

[@mytube6913]

Im running Airlift Autopilot V2 on my mk4 Jetta and I love it. Way worth the money. Car sits nice and handles pretty well. I can't compare cornering to my FK coils I had before but thats a small sacrifice I will make to look good.

[@Zakher]

Very beautiful car. Great show buddy, your camera man is doing a great job.

[@Blast4S4t4N]

Citroën had this suspension technology already back in 1954... Its called Hydropneumatic suspension, ultra comfy and self leveling. Other Citroens with Hydraulics, SM1974, CX-70's, BX80's, XM90's, Xantia90's, C5 2000/2013, C6 2003/2006

[@mrlazda]

If someone want Audi with air suspension is it not easier just to buy Audi with factory installed air suspension. Audi offer adaptive air suspension (which is far more advanced then this and have more options) as option on cars for over 15 years (some models even come with adaptive air suspension as standard).

[@YashJoshi4]

My 1980's Range Rover has only air suspension😂

[@anon-ex1rm]

Miloš Lazović this takes off where oem stops. i bet lowest oem setting is the high setting on this kit.

[@mrlazda]

anon If that was true, this will be totally useless, factory Audi air suspension on lowest setting can't go over speed bump (to be honest I have experience only with A6 allroad quattro which you cant drive in city on lowest settings, it is too low).

[@jonsiiin]

Miloš Lazović Exactly. The lowest setting is completely useless, it's for showing not for driving. If we were looking for purely practical mods, sure the factory air suspension is sufficient, but we mod to have it stand out, and therefore want that shit on the ground.

[@TheSmokingTire]

I sold the raptor. After 3 years, it became more car than I needed. I daily drive a Chevy Volt now. What an incredible car.

[@MrCleanPolo]

God that car is sexy af!

[@LancerVII]

Citroen Hydractive sends his regards, its simple to keep, low maintaince cost, superbly comfortable and good at cornering.

[@secpozz]

"Bumpiest road" ? You should come to Turkey (especially Ankara) man; in our daily roads, you can even break a Hummer' s suspension while driving in a straight line.

[@Coros_Midnight]

That he knows of. And it's called a figure of speech it isn't literal

[@LFC-Star]

He should drive on some UK roads.. They're riddled with potholes..

[@quickbulldog]

For what its worth...I love my Accuair + Ksport setup on my Lexus IS350. The ride is almost smoother than stock at the drive height setting, and having a steep driveway this setup allows me to park in my garage and still slam my car when parked. Plus the ilevel gets all the attention at shows, people can't believe that I am controling my suspension from my phone. ACCUAIR FTW!!!!

[@ShotsDesignsHD]

>bumpy... Come to new england, I drool when I see a road that nice around here.

[@TheSmokingTire]

you can hear it, but with the regenerative tank system, it doesn't come on very often. Think of a portable tire inflator compressor, but in a sound deadening box in the trunk.

[@Willhgf]

But how long does the air suspension last?

[@oneviperbite]

Will S I am currently running Accuair + UAS air bags and I have over 30K miles are daily driving, canyon runs and track/autocrossing on my car and my bags are still going strong. I know some people that have gone 100K miles without having to replace their air bags. They are extremely durable.

[@JOHNINCOLUMBUS]

I had a 1986 Citroen CX GTi 2.5 that did all that 30 years ago, and now the new C6, C5 and other Citroen models are far more advanced than the one I had, but this is a good product for the USA.

[@RK1FX]

Matt please tell us what exhaust is on the car! :-)

[@TheSmokingTire]

the compressor and battery are in the spare tire well, so the only thing in the trunk is the 5Lb air tank. Probably 1/8 of the total trunk space. The only thing that it impedes really is loading large objects with seats folded down. You could still put a bunch of stuff in the trunk.

[@leonidassaber7335]

It's only 5 grand that seems like a steal.

[@IaintTrynaGoOutLikeBIGnPAC]

LMFAO

[@coles8089]

Leonidas Saber hahaha really?

[@christopherhaley3097]

my gti is currently on the Accu-air e-level system with adjustable air lift struts all around and let me tell when putting the dampers on soft the car rides better then stalk all day and still manages to look great. if you have the money its something to do at least once :)

[@HOSERx]

Mazda speed 3 with air suspension and a camber kit :)

[@TheSmokingTire]

For a dedicated track/autox car I'd say no. For a daily driver/weekender that sees occasional track duty, I'd rock it.

[@alex19jam]

"On this road, if you mess up, you die"

[@coles8089]

Alexjoel McKenzie on most roads

[@phateracing]

Exactly what I was wondering. I don't know a lot about the bump steer characteristics of audi S4's, but I do know that my accord absolutely needed an alignment after I lowered it from stock height (2in drop, went to 1.8 degrees negative camber, and the toe was definitely WAY out of spec).

[@sethalton205]

So you guys made a coupe allroad... hehe

[@sethalton205]

+seth alton Oh... and you guys should probably put your website in the description >.

[@racabon]

The worlds bumpiest canyon road? In California? Having lived in California I can confirm we are not stuck up and used to nice roads lol.

[@AaronB9616]

These roads aint bad at least you have fresh tarmac on the road over here in Europe fresh tarmac is non existent. And potholes everywhere.

[@TheSmokingTire]

it rides the best in the middle "driving" setting. The low setting is for parking, the high setting is for clearance.

[@elinoorani18]

How much does it cost?

[@E9X330]

5k

[@Thepizzagod69]

+boboprime2000 plus installation. ...

[@GavinKoskoSound]

+yoyo $5,000

[@FastPaull]

All i can say is, props to Matt for responding to all of these comments. It's good to communicate with fans. And it's good to get details straight from the person who was in the video. I gotta subscribe now.

[@Zero_Ninety]

What wheels are those? Also, if that road was in the UK there would be a massive crash barrier and a 40mph limit.

[@6niall]

Ikr

[@popuptoaster]

+Zero Ninety If that road was in the UK those rubber band tyres would let the rims get destroyed in minutes, I've seen bumpier pub pool tables......

[@kevinzhang2839]

+Zero Ninety HRE p44sc

[@tomduff89]

+Zero Ninety no there really wouldnt, come up north our mountain roads don't always have barriers and are almost all national speed limit of 60mph. also if this road was in the uk it would be classes as the smoothest road in the country our roads are that messed up

[@Zero_Ninety]

Tom Duffield The part about the smooth roads is true, though I have experienced worse than Britain. Czech roads for example are terrible. I think I may have to go on a road trip up north though...

[@b.sh.1941]

I hate it when you can't even see the tyre at the top of the rim. There should be enough space to fit your fingers between tyre and wheel arch for me.

[@gogutzy]

you load what trunk with what luggage? there's no trunk anymore...

[@LifeizPractical]

+V.C. they tuck there's on the side taking like 20% space tops

[@gyron47]

It goes in the spare tire space. That's where mine is

[@zagyex]

Yes! There you dont pump air into the suspension, only oil. the amount of gas stays the same and you lower / rise the car by changing the amount of oil between the gas and the moving part of the suspension. it is a great and well working system.

[@chrisnewman8918]

Bumpy? Try jumping the Grand Canyon.

[@moealfaily1662]

I don't see how you keep the stock suspension and add the bags? do they replace the springs with the air bags? won't that significantly shorten the life span of the struts and shocks? I would love to eventually go Bagged on my S60R, but I want to know if it will be a good right and if they're pretty reliable

[@porostorm]

this is the most bumpy road in the world ? Come to Bulgaria :D

[@alexf80m32]

+Vladimir Bodurov Hahahaha true, romania is the same shit

[@balmainmagic]

And Bosnia too, in general the whole Balkans has really bumpy roads ahaha

[@nursejun1]

Function and form!!! Dont let the car tell you on what roads you can "only" drive. My experience on airsuspensions. ✓ Ride comfort level is beyond stock oem springs. ✓ Show car stance all day, everyday. ✓ Accurate leveling system ✓ 0 - 0 camber on drive. Go beyond extreme camber on park. ✓ Great as coilovers in cornering. ✓ 10 clicks in dampering. ✓ Clean car. No underchasis scrapes. ✓ ZERO underchasis ground clearance

[@515Endi]

Can't wait to trade my B8 A4 for a B8.5 S4

[@TheSmokingTire]

No, I said the exhaust notes match the in-car. The chase camera shots don't always match the in-car though. We try to get it close but it's impossible to match it every time because those shots are not recorded at exactly the same time. So, when I drove that corner while talking, I accelerated there. When we did the same run with a chase setup, I may have scrubbed the brake a bit with my left foot. So you see me going through the corner two different times in one sequence there.

[@cduone]

I have an E92 M3 and I'm sold on this system.

[@popolynn2]

ricer

[@cduone]

popolynn2 Make sure you don't eat bush with your rice.

[@tculig]

popolynn2 You do understand that 'ricer' only applies to people driving Asian cars, right???

[@cduone]

tculig Thank you sir.

[@tculig]

Hot-diggity! You sure proved ME wrong! LOL :)

[@ITsIMP0RT4NT]

Or S6 and S7 where theres more trunk space or an S5 where its strictly a sports car and practicality is irrelevant. I also love the black paint job with gold rims! Thats a beautiful touch!

[@KvltKommando]

lotion up those elbows, theyre lookin like beef jerkey

[@TheRocketwatson]

Looks like he does'nt even know he owns elbows. Wow! looks like something his girlfriend would have suggested. Perhaps hers look worse.

[@anarcojuan]

You both must be a pair of pussies or metrosexuals since you seem to be annoyed by something as irrelevant as a man elbows appearance

[@Soldier1287]

Do you have to completely deflate bags when car is not in use? I'd assume hopefully like tires. leave inflated normal pressure. And of course durable high quality bags. I wonder if you can just inflate manually them like tires. Would be good because that means lower price

[@stevepoirier1323]

The fully slammed stance looks a bit ghetto. In my opinion the rim should never be inside the wheel well. Still, it does look great on low stance (not fully slammed though) Audi's are meant to be classy cars, not ghetto shit.

[@BrawndoQC]

TheJacob910 I'm not saying Accuair is not a good system, I would love to have one on my S5, it's just that when it's parked and they set it to lowest height, the stance is not proportioned anymore it's like the car is sitting on the wheels and it doesn't do justice to the car, in my opinion.

[@DENicholsAutoBravado]

I think cars with their wheels below the fender well look ghetto too, but since someone likes it I won't be holier than thou to he or she who chooses it. Having it that low permanently would for sure thrash the car so if it's not ghetto now it will be. Think Yoda voice. "It will be."

[@rSCOOTx]

Shut up...

[@DENicholsAutoBravado]

If I push my options button on my android device I can click mute to mute the conversation. It's a quiet. "Shut up..." lol I personally would like an air setup. I just wouldn't go with the low setting. Maybe it'd be good for a race if it recammed the wheels flat, but driving on tire edges is good for drifting, not racing.

[@daryllmoto5761]

audi, classy? xD

[@thastump]

There is a system already which can give you a perfect compromise between lowering, handling and comfort. It's called hydropneumatic suspension and Citroën has been building cars with it it since the 1950s. Most of their cars are setup for comfort, but others like the Xantia Activa were made with handling in mind. It was faster than a 996 GT2 through the infamous Swedish moose test and reached over 1g on the skidpad. Not bad for a 190hp FWD family car on street tires.

[@jaex26]

If you want performance, don't get this. I bet this adds around 300 lbs. I'd rather get the KW3 DDC

[@Helium_Hunter]

But that cant adjust height...

[@gabrieldalcomune3044]

Janeshcw Not on the fly. But you can adjust it.

[@Angel-HC]

It doesn't. I recently did an AccuAir airbag install with my friend on his Lexus LS400. Dual compressors, oversized air tank, lines, and airbags together came out to around 50-60 pounds. The airbags weigh less than the steel coil springs. The bulk of the weight is from the dual air compressors. It performs quite well for a sedan. It's a good system. The guys at Accuair did a fantastic job on it.

[@donka5151]

Watch them compare the S4 with coils vs. the S4 with bags. Bags wins.

[@TheSmokingTire]

No, the compressor and battery are in the spare tire well, and the tank in the trunk is quite small.

[@mornadu]

Matt pretty much summed it up at the start of the video. If you want this "hybrid" setup then this is nice. For me, not so much. I'd either go all the way on a track setup or just cruise in a comfy setup 95' Mercedes E500 that i've just acuired.

[@donkmeister]

A 2013 Audi S4 can now have an equivalent suspension set-up to a 2002 Mercedes E-Class? ;-) In fairness, it is a great system. I have an old Merc with airmatic and being able to switch between "luxo-barge" and "fast twisties" modes does make the car much more flexible. Plus the ability to jack up the ride height when crawling down a track calms the nerves somewhat :-) It is a useful thing to have.

[@nickdedona8773]

Never knew Mercedes had that

[@TheSmokingTire]

The whole point of the kit is that you can get whatever struts you want, from stock, if you're starting with a good car, to Koni, KW, Tokico, or whatever the hell suits your purpose. This kit comes with way more hardware and software than a coilover kit that comparing them on price alone makes no sense whatseover.

[@mrolskul]

Awesome. I really like the idea of an adjustable suspension on the fly. I especially lile the stance the Audi takes on once in the lowest position, it looks sharp. Additionally, I understand that the car isn't meant to be driven in the lowest setting. The cherry on top has to be the ability to raise the car for speed bumps and high driveways. I only wish I could afford the system for my '85 Corolla GT-S.

[@TheSmokingTire]

I already have Pfadt coilovers on my Corvette and really like them, and I don't need to spend another $5k on another suspension. Thinking about it for the Delorean.

[@TheSmokingTire]

the best part about air suspension is you choose your own height. It's slammed on the ground for demonstration purposes, but your own car could look stock 100% of the time if you wanted.

[@TheSmokingTire]

I never drove on the Praxxis kit, but always heard great things about it. only point against that kit was that it was too expensive.

[@FastPaull]

I agree completely the system is amazing. And i like slammed cars. For $5k Just in parts alone though is hard to justify.. Luckily on that S4 that's the only Chassis mod needed. If you want to do this on a B5 or B6. you need to notch out the fender wells for the control arms to come up through..Or they smash up against it. No fun.

[@Fishyb1zz]

How will the bushings withstand? I mean, the bushings are made to flex from one point to another. Thats why you always tighten the bushings and arms closer to the height you drive on? Not when the car is fully jacked up. Introducing so much travel has to make them twist beyond their capability no?

[@TheSmokingTire]

according to European Car magazine, which has testing equipment, the Accuair setup outperformed the KW V3 coilover setup, so 10/10ths of a coilover setup is more accurate.

[@bnhfcarsupplies3543]

I have the system on my Golf GTI Mk4 i love te system. I also went to à race track The Nurburg Ring @ germany . The Gti perfomed perfect on the track with AccuAir suspention E- level .

[@TheSmokingTire]

European Car magazine says it's 0.4G better than stock. They have instruments for that sort of thing.

[@TheSmokingTire]

you can manually adjust it on the fly while driving or parked.

[@mikebird5148]

Gotta love the black and gold combo, reminds me of my subie!

[@xXmoemoneyXx]

I would be glad to get this for my e46 m3 but, I just don't want the extra weight. :/ It would be pretty cool however if the bags would adjust themselves in mid corner, to better the cars stability. oh and if it can sense the car when it brakes and adjust for that too. That would be a nice product right there.

[@shojaeisalar]

i remember couple of weeks a go i frist found this rimz company called Vossen and well ofcourse their projects which they had done with Accuair but i had many questions now i have my answers , i just wanted to thank you for this great and informative video , awesome.

[@TheSmokingTire]

We did written reviews on our site of the 2013 Genesis. I agree, it was much improved over the first model, though still not as engaging as I'd like.

[@A0SAirsoft]

I'm curious, what if you put this on a vehicle you planned to tow with? What about stock ride hight to a rally lift (like 2 inches or so)? Would that be a smart thing for a "road car to rally car" kind of setup? How much does the system weigh ?