Is America a Christian Nation?

[@erichammond9308]

The founding fathers themselves ratified unanimously the treaty of Tripoli which states "the government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion"

[@whiterosesforthebrideofchrist]

The Treaty of Tripoli was created as a delaying tactic to address what was actually happening in Tripoli and should not be seen by atheist out of its historical context. Muslim warlords and pirates were holding European and American sailors for ransom otherwise they would be sold into slavery. America needed time to finish building the ships to fight the Barbary War. The Muslims thought they were fighting a holy war against Christians. It is a technicality that the federal government itself was meant to be religiously neutral towards other nations.

[@erichammond9308]

@whiterosesforthebrideofchrist I am well aware of the historical context of the Treaty of Tripoli. It changes nothing. They were merely stating the truth. The Constitution of the United States is worded very clearly. Even the Declaration of Independence was worded very carefully so as to be entirely religion neutral. There's not a single article in either document that is solely based on the values of Christianity. I challenge you to find anything in either one that can't equally be attributed to another religion, or even multiple other religions. (Some of which pre-date Christianity by 500 years or more.) So, pick something, anything in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence that you think is based upon Christianity, and I'll give you another religion that teaches exactly the same thing.

[@godssara6758]

@@erichammond9308 The Treaty was about that we would not be fighting religious wars like Europe does. You can spin it all you want. The fact that our rights come from God is a big one and not the state as stated in the Declaration of Independence. , our laws were based on Christianity the idea of justice being blind and equality comes from Leviticus. Like it or not the Founders were mostly Christian and had a huge Christian view. The idea of not forcing a National religion is because we have a free will God, which is a Christian belief. Look up James Madison on this. Also, Madison went to St John’s Church. It was to keep the government out of church, to not have bigotry among the various churches that were here and the belief we have a right to our own conscience. Our culture is Christian and as that has declined it is undeniable that we are failing because of it. Now we have democrats giving kids porn at school and mutilating kids genitals and telling kids they are born in the wrong body. To deny Christianity is intertwined in our National heritage is a lie. The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.” - John Quincy Adams

[@godssara6758]

@@erichammond9308 The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.” - John Quincy Adams

[@godssara6758]

@@erichammond9308except the fact that the Founders were not influenced by any of the other religions they were influenced by their own Christian faith

[@verminlordsoulberry8823]

Fun fact. we don't live in the times of kings and queens where the 2 areas of power were the royals and the church.

[@CuriousCross]

Thank God! 🙏

[@retired69]

No! People who call themselves Christians talk the talk but have learned how to walk the walk. Calling oneself a Christian doesn't make it so.

[@jeanhendersonharley3228]

Amen 💯💯💯💯

[@ShaneGuyton-mj1mv]

Those are not real Christians.

[@misspattifromcali.6955]

I agree 💯

[@fubokuen]

"Calling oneself a Christian doesn't make it so." Questioning another's level of faith doesn't make it so. Pull the log out of your eye.

[@cody42693]

​@@fubokuenYou can't question what isn't there

[@toddmiller7876]

The simple answer is no. Many love saying the word, but have zero clue what it means. Nothing can replace actually reading the word.

[@denisemayosky1955]

And living it out!!

[@rickwilliams967]

What word? Sheep?

[@JackMason-oq8lf]

Very few Christians in America have knowledge of their bible. Very few Christians know about their namesake. They sure don't follow him in thought or deed.

[@Daisy_3500]

Amen!

[@johndada3500]

I which

[@Samy-c8o]

When you become a politician... You can make your decisions on the bases of your beliefs but can't say or FORCE your beliefs.

[@johnolson7319]

This is NOT a Christian nation it's a nation in which you are free to be Christian

[@HardKore5250]

Right and christianity will survive but I heard the Islam religion will overtake it. The appealing of heaven is just too powerful for it to end and reuniting with your friends and family and loved ones.

[@StanleyTeriaca]

This is true. AS a Christian, the religion is supposed to be above county. And Must be held above County.

[@yallgonemadd3786]

America is a Christian Nation. When this country was formed it was formed by 99% Christians it wasn't formed by 99% deists are 99% Islam or 99% Buddhists it was founded on 99% Christianity the Christians didn't care if you didn't believe in God what are laws were formed by Christians in the name of God the god of Abraham Isaac and Jacob that's what this country was formed on.

[@georgejohnson-vu2zm]

@@johnolson7319 no need to split HAIRS.

[@cumulo25]

​​@@georgejohnson-vu2zm What? Nobody _is_ splitting hairs. We're a secular country.

[@kittys.2870]

It use to be a country who supported Freedom to practice your own beliefs. Sadly that has died along with democracy.

[@stephj9378]

Not so fast Lots of conscientious,. God fearing people in play.

[@kalijasin]

Freedom of religion means all religions, Not just your own!

[@tonisumblin2719]

Exactly

[@godssara6758]

@@tonisumblin2719doesn’t change the fact that we were founded on Christian principles by mostly Christian men

[@tonisumblin2719]

@ too bad we don’t always act like we do. Isn’t it? That’s what we said about the Manifest Destiny law; that GOD gave us the right to take land from Native Indians. Yep. That’s one example of “Christian principles”. White man hearing the voice of God to steal land away from the original inhabitants. Oh that’s REAL “Christian” of them. How about the KKK? Let’s see, 🤔 hmmm, hate mongering “Christians” who burn crosses after they set fires and terrorized non white communities. Crosses? The universal symbol of love and unity? And let’s not leave out vandalizing Synagogues and hating Jews, but worship a Jew. Throughout the history of the world, atrocities have been committed “in the name of the Lord” These are NOT Christian principles. These are hypocrites who use God and “Christianity” to expose their Depravity. The founding fathers knew this and that is why we have freedom of religion in our country. When your European ancestors arrived here in droves as IMMIGRANTS many were feeling religious persecution. Catholics and Protestants fighting and killing each other “in the name of the Lord” so YOU practice your faith and be a real Christian by stop judging and vilifying your fellow human beings by their race, religion, their place of origin. That’s NOT Christian. Jesus would not approve and you know it. I’d rather SEE a sermon than to hear one.

[@Miralasflores]

what's the difference between religion and organization

[@tonisumblin2719]

@ none.

[@5squirrelsinatrenchcoat]

Separation of church and state??? Hello? School absolutely failed y’all. This shouldn’t even be questioned.

[@alexxb2047]

Yet my bills still say "In God we Trust."

[@fredolok209]

@@alexxb2047that doesn’t mean anything. There are many gods

[@darlenetapley5219]

In THE CONSTITUTIOÑ OF THE USA IT STATES, " that there WILL NOT BE a ruliñg RELIGION.". There was a COVENATH made that the faith of the CHURCH WAS NOT TO BE INTERFERED WITH! The CHURCH BEING THE REDEEMED BODY OF CHRIST JESUS! AMEN! GO READ THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USA! 🤯😇❤️

[@TheOmegasVisage]

@@alexxb2047whooa you must have gone to college you’re a genius

[@JERIGNUSS]

They still teach [a kind of] religion in schools, it’s just not Biblically founded. What they’re eagerly teaching is anti-God and anti Christ ideologies that will eventually cause the destruction of this nation.

[@classagitator]

America was founded on the separation of church and state. This isn’t up for debate and it’s reckless to make it one.

[@debbiee6535]

The word reads let the government cannot interrupt or discontinue of our Christian churches are our beliefs they have no voice in it it does not say that Christians are not political we have one king above our nation better read it again

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@classagitator not what that meant.

[@Ratryggva1090]

No, it wasn't. Separation of church and state is not in the constitution. There is to be no National Church, as was the case in many European countries/duchys.

[@CaptainAmerica001]

America is not a country or a nation to begin with. Therefore, 'American' is not a nationality or a citizenship, officially. Furthermore, an American is from the Continent of America.

[@jamesbyington4764]

Is that where they were born that makes them Americans.God of the bible is indeed Satan.God does not need your worship.​@@CaptainAmerica001

[@Murcans-worship-felons]

No. It allows for any religion but does NOT claim any. Read the Constitution.

[@carm738]

Yes I used to call my self a Christian but not anymore it has become a shameful title I now consider myself a woman of God

[@Justanotherconsumer]

It’s a nation that has a lot of Christians in it, but it was very specifically and very intentionally not repeating the problems of the Church of England at the federal level. The state history, especially for Massachussets, is a lot more blurry.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

The U.S. has a lot of professing Christians in it when it comes to believing in Jesus' existence and pays lip service to the Bible, but the number of true Christians in the U.S. who actually believes what it teaches and lives by it is exponentially smaller than you might think.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779broad is the road, as the good book puts it. That’s always been an issue. That claiming to be Christian is socially expected makes it far, far worse.

[@robertlogan5354]

​@@Justanotherconsumer i won't claim to be christian. i respect and try to follow the teachings of Jesus, but only as good earthly wisdom. i do not presume to know what lies beyond this world, if anything.

[@shacktime]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 yup. And under Trump true Christians will be persecuted.

[@chrisnotyou]

Yup, just like we dont have an official language. Sure the overwhelming majority of us speak English, but it doesnt mean thats out "official" language.

[@8153max]

No it’s a Nation that allows the freedom of all religions… and freedom from religions. All religions are welcome but cannot be the governing control of people…

[@greytgreytx]

Yes! But also, I think that this video is aimed more at the Evangelicals who would lament how much "more Christian" the US was in the past.

[@8153max]

@@greytgreytx looking at the pass we can see that we were a phony version of Christianity

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@greytgreytxarguably we have made some progress. We did sort of end slavery (the “punishment for a crime” loophole problem persists).

[@toreyhorton1789]

Professing Christians would have never started a system of commerce built on the backs of slavery ie cheap labor. So, “ending” a particularly brutal form of slavery is not an example of displaying Christian morality or values especially when you started the system to enrich yourselves secularly. (Doesn't sound like storing up treasures in heaven. Matthew 6:19, 20) Loving your neighbor as yourself is a predominant Christian trait and chattel slavery doesn't even consider people to be humans let alone their neighbors. Matthew 22:37-39

[@wellhellothere6347]

@@greytgreytx No, there is no "but also". The US NEVER was a christian nation. Ever.

[@4ucarla885]

No, America is not a Christian nation. The Founding Father's weren't Christians...many were deist, some were Masons, and some were slave-owners, etc. And even if America was considered Christian, that would be of no consequence because the only nation and kingdom that will matter at the end of this age is Jesus' Millennial Kingdom (The Stone hewed out of the mountains that tears down the kingdoms of this world). See Daniel 2:32

[@denisemayosky1955]

Not to mention that it sure doesn't *act* like a Christian nation! A truly Christian nation would not oppress people based on race, age, disability, economic/social class, political affiliation, or gender/sexual identity. It would take care of the poor and destitute instead of chasing them away. It would acknowledge its mistakes and try to do better. It would welcome the stranger, it wouldn't chase wealth, it would take care of the land, it would fight injustice and oppression, and it would care for ALL of its citizens - not just the ones who can "pay to play".

[@denisemayosky1955]

And it sure doesn't act like it. Otherwise, no one would be mistreated - no matter who they were: whether poor, homeless, foreigner, LGBTQIA+, a different religion or political affiliation, disabled, elderly, child, adult. Like he said, everyone would be taken care of. We wouldn't poison the land, oppress the workers, lie, cheat, steal and even murder in pursuit of the almighty dollar. We would seek justice for all, no one would be forced to decide between rent, food and life-saving medicine cuz they just can't afford it - and nobody would be looking down on them but instead extending a hand to help. THAT would be a truly "Christian nation"!! But I see anything but, so no - it's not!

[@monzorella1]

​@@denisemayosky1955 FACTS!!! 👌🏾

[@vice9091]

I honestly can’t believe it’s 2024 and we still believe in these fairy tales, why is believing in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy any different than believing in god? There is no evidence that any of them are real.

[@sreed7637]

Mayflower Compact says otherwise.. even though it might not be now …

[@okamijubei]

According to the Constitution, no. They are separated by the state which means they have no direct control of the government. They had rights to be in America, just had no rights to be in direct control of our laws and government.

[@angellight495]

Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli: “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion…”

[@danawelch5593]

The 1st amendment bans the establishment of a state sanctioned religion.

[@SentientSingularity]

Penned by no one less than Thomas Jefferson. And the treaty, with this wording, was unanimously adopted by Congress.

[@angellight495]

@ Alas facts are becoming increasingly easy to ignore by a population who coined the term “alternative facts” to legitimize lies.

[@godssara6758]

@@angellight495except in context the Treaty was to say to the Muslim world we would not be A Christian nation in the sense of other nations fighting religious wars with them so they would stop attacking our ships. It doesn’t mean Christianity is not part of our Founding or Culture

[@angellight495]

@ it literally says America is not a Christian nation Now show me any proof that it is. You can’t There are about 6000 words between the declaration of independence and the constitution and bill of rights None of them are Bible, Jesus, church, Christian, & Christianity Figure it out

[@blahblahblah6668]

People ask me why I'm an atheist and i just tell them i was born one and haven't found any reason to change

[@dmoffitt1914]

It's not who you ask, It has explicitly stated it is not. Article 11 of the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli states that the United States government is not based on Christianity: Treaty of Tripoli Article 11: "The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion". US Constitution: Article VI, paragraph 2, makes treaties the supreme law of the land on the same footing with acts of Congress. There are Christian in the nation but not a Christian nation.

[@jameswarren180]

There is no such thing as Christian I am wrong it is a religion. It has nothing to do with God or the Bible. It is a ____________ man religion

[@ScottRoche]

That is one sense in which it is not a Christian nation. As Esau said, there is more than one way to measure this. If we are a predominantly Christian nation (one made up of primarily Christians) then we should act like it. And the GOP ain't it.

[@toreyhorton1789]

@@ScottRocheyes, but that doesn't mean the country is dedicated to God and Christianity. It simply means citizens in a country that allows religious freedom have made independent decisions for themselves to identify as Christians. It doesn't matter what percentage of the citizenry has made that decision. They only made an individual decision.

[@toreyhorton1789]

Makes you think about Jesus’ warning in Matthew 10:33 where it says: “But whoever denies me before others, I will also deny him before my Father in heaven.” The US has clearly denied having any association with Christianity so if this scripture is true then, well, we can clearly read what Jesus stated he would do.

[@dmoffitt1914]

@@ScottRoche having a lot of Christians doesn't make it a Christian Nation. How a nation is governed is what makes it a Christian Nation. For example, would a Christian Nation with Christ as its King allow idolatry. I believe Christ said it best in Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring them hither and slay them before me.’”

[@elizabethnienstadt1343]

This is a Nation that you can have the freedom to decide what to believe.

[@funfeeds9505]

Its a nation of religious diversity where we are free to be Christian...

[@gaminginthevoid]

Freedom of religion = do whatever religion you want. Separation of church and state = making sure the first statement stays true.

[@sethland]

Furthermore, nostalgic Christians fail to grasp that while church attendance may have been higher up until about the 1960’s, many churches were far from promoting or encouraging orthodox faith and life action. It is after several reformations/revivals within our history such as the Great Awakenings that scriptural authority, the supreme belief in the salvation through faith in Jesus took shape. Most fail to acknowledge that our most important founding fathers were Deists believing in a higher power more than in Christ’s grace specifically. Church attendance for many didn’t mean a an opportunity for sanctification, union, and renewal as much as it was a key social institution, an expression of cultural identity or continuity, or a place for moral teaching. Church membership/attendance did not make this country a Christian nation.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

“Orthodox” is a suspect term here, as the United States started in a rejection of English orthodoxy. Big O Orthodoxy has always been rare in the US, obviously.

[@sethland]

@@Justanotherconsumer Educate me. I use little o orthodoxy, perhaps slightly inaccurately, as belief in Christ as the Son of God, savior, in whom faith in is essential for salvation. Are you saying the Church of England/Episcopal believed this and the American revolution was in major part a rejection of this orthodoxy? Washington, Jefferson, Franklin were Deists from different churches and saw Jesus as a moral teacher but had varying doubts about his existence. Jefferson had his own heavily edited Bible. My point was that our founding fathers never established a Christian nation in part because they didn’t have orthodox Christian faith. Freedom of religion was more core to their thinking.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@sethland​​⁠orthodoxy just means consistent - continuing in obedience to the church of George III in 1776 would have been orthodox because it would have continued the same beliefs. There is a term in marketing called a “glittering generality” which is positive sounding but vague enough that people will conveniently insert their own assumptions, and “orthodoxy” is often this in discussions of religion - that which agrees with what I want to hear. Like “common sense” and “virtuous” and “Christlike” and “family friendly” and so on the concept of small o orthodoxy is vague enough that it tends not to be useful for discussion unless defined, and often defining it is more used as a tool for controlling the conversation than for clarity (e.g. I could define “real science” by an absurdly narrow definition and claim that Carl Sagan was the first real scientist). The founding fathers were definitely not Orthodox nor were they, by the dominant religious practices of the English Church, orthodox. In deism they may have been pretty standard stuff. Except Jefferson, he was a bit out there (good writer though).

[@johnbluehouse4991]

I think you're mistaken. America certainly was a Christian nation. Abraham Lincoln called slavery an evil institution, and abolitionists go back to the founding fathers. Slavery never was accepted on a federal level, and now the same people who scream how evil America is (and was) support the murder of black babies in the womb (Margaret Sanger sought to kill off the black population in America with abortion) - Truly evil. Nevertheless; I still believe more Christian acts, and more proclaiming to be Christian reside in America than in any other parts of the world. And Christianity has done more to benefit mankind than any other religion in the world. Turn the other cheek, love your enemy and pray for those who despitefully use you.

[@clauderiddell6042]

We are not a Christian nation we are not theocracy we are democracy

[@fredrodnick2881]

Jesus said, these people honor me with their lips , but their heart is far from me. Brothers and sisters it's time to come back to God, before it's too late.

[@LeonGreen-uf2nc]

Marino, Jesus, he never said nothing cause he never Existed.That's why black people need to know their history.Until you know your history , you won't Do no research There was no jesus because he never existed

[@jackpeterman5079]

@@LeonGreen-uf2nc it is a historical fact Jesus Christ existed. The apostles died terrible deaths to uphold Christ’s truth, people don’t die for a lie, and if you would claim they did then you are now denying human nature. Absolute garbage found in your history, black white asian who cares, if it lacks Christ it’s a tale of horror and oppression, and if you knew a thing about your African histories you claim to study you wouldn’t put it in such a good light. Seek him friend, his love is a liberating gift, the only one we have in this world.

[@manjimanii1184]

I'm not a genocidal, lying piece of euro trash. I'm not a racist or a hater. Your God is the god of hate.😊

[@verizon8134]

당신 이 나를 눈물 💦 😭 ❤❤❤

[@juliesczesny90]

As a Minister for those who aren't straight white males? SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!

[@Larry-z2g]

Imagine all the progress that society would make without Christianity.

[@greytgreytx]

Good to see Esau on screen like this! It's a lot to chew on; thank you!

[@HolyPost]

Esau is the best!

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@HolyPost*Jacob jealousy intensifies*

[@Icooktheinternetbums]

​@@HolyPostjust remember it walk the talk. Stop blaming the other side for your problems. Go look in the mirror and see how you treat other people. I'm so tired of y'all blaming the other side.

[@Beerglass1980]

If America is a Christian nation and the bible says love your enemy, why America always at war?

[@louisabrams9590]

There are very few people in America that are true god fearing that is a 💯 percent fact

[@CaptainAmerica001]

America is not a country or a nation to begin with. Therefore, 'American' is not a nationality or a citizenship, officially. Furthermore, an American is from the Continent of America.

[@geoffreyk6229]

Have you done any survey?

[@clairpahlavi]

Most of them don't preach for money. Few can find a real church. They are often saving people with only Jesus as their partner in these microministries. No big megechurch, no funding, just them, often alone doing God's work.

[@clairpahlavi]

​@@CaptainAmerica001: America's enemies within hate Christianity and Judaism. The Democrats prefer Islam because taking slaves is legal and they want all the slaves they can have working without just compensation for their labors. The brave get slaughtered and maimed in foreign countries to reduce any armed opposition in the U.S.A.!

[@clairpahlavi]

​@@CaptainAmerica001: A real American swears by the Bible to uphold The Constitution, whether native-born citizens or legally naturalized.

[@RichardPfeifer-cx9jt]

just a country where one is free to be christian if they want

[@terryzigler7521]

Yes that's why it's so f up whenever someone says they are Christian I run the other way they don't keep the faith in Jesus Christ or his words 😮

[@soleil777soleil]

When was the last time you bumped into every Christian in the nation? So how can you paint all Christians? As not being followers of Jesus Christ.

[@rhodapillay9200]

There is no other way for peace but through the reading of the word and being taught by the Holyspirit that Only Jesus Christ can save us

[@cody42693]

Any Christians who think America is Christian are FALSE Christians

[@cambio24-c7o]

Religion is very personal, you don't need to attend any church to have your faith. People don't follow religious leaders for different reasons.

[@jonathonpolk3592]

It's easy to get caught up in the question of whether the USA is a Christian nation, but this question often overlooks the real issue: SHOULD it be a Christian nation? Whether it is, or is not, such a nation is ultimately irrelevant because the outcome does not change our own moral and religious responsibilities to each other.

[@toreyhorton1789]

In a nation that cemented religious liberty or freedom by codifying it in a federal document our “moral and religious responsibilities” will differ between citizens. All citizens do not identify as Christians and all Christians are not even united in their understanding of what morals or responsibilities should be demonstrated or displayed by whoever professes to be Christian.

[@edgaracajabon9522]

It very well should be. Christianity it's the base by which the country can remain grounded. If it wasn't heathens and unbelievers wouldn't be trying to stomp it.

[@wellhellothere6347]

That's easy to answer. NO. It neither should be nor is a christian nation. Just like morality and religion have nothing to do with each other.

[@edgaracajabon9522]

@@wellhellothere6347 you gotta be kidding me. Morality and religion are intertwined. There's no morality without religion. With no religion there's no accountability of the wrong people do. There's no consequence. People do what they want to do and without repercussions. You have no idea what you're talking about. Religion is what keeps people accountable. That's why there are still some good people left even if it's only getting worse by the minute.

[@wellhellothere6347]

@@edgaracajabon9522 Which religion? Which sect of which religion is the moral arbiter? Sorry, but I deal in facts, and you do NOT need religion for morality to exist. In fact people are more moral without it. Read some history. Sheesh.

[@dr.sweetchat6769]

No, the founders where very explicit about this. They wrote about it a lot.

[@Just_me7075]

No it’s not! We are a nation where you are free to be Christian!

[@darlenehain2758]

You won’t be free anymore with Satan Dictator Trump tajes over. Do you have any clue what a Dictatorship is? No freedoms and no more elections.

[@lue4724]

@@Just_me7075 REALLY?

[@Badhero4]

You’re free to be Christian anywhere.

[@Just_me7075]

@@lue4724 yes really, the founding fathers left England with a king and the Church of England! Most of the founding fathers weren’t Christian! You really should read history!

[@Just_me7075]

@@Badhero4 are you sure about that! I can think of many countries where Christian’s are persecuted!

[@juancervantes4085]

NO! Are Special Interests American Interests? NO, only those who are Special Interests will tell you that they are American Interests!

[@bkucenski]

Don't tell me Abraham is your father when you don't do the works of Abraham.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Jesus was more explicit in who His siblings were - it’s in all 3 synoptic gospels (e.g. Mk 3:31-35).

[@Patricia_Stewart337]

One nation under God Doesn’t specify which denomination

[@chrisdunker54]

I cannot recall who said it, but it still speaks volumes to this day, not only for the black folks it was meant for, but also the non-Americans who have been labeled as such. We love this nation, but this nation does not love us.

[@denisemayosky1955]

It seems it's now about anyone who is not white, male, able-bodied, rich, conservative, cis-heteronormative, and right-wing Christian. Sadly enough!😢

[@edgaracajabon9522]

It's not the country that doesn't love us is the corrupt people and governments

[@stephj9378]

I dont know how people can say this.

[@RetiredProfessor2024]

A Christian nation would keep the Sabbath day (Saturday) holy. Since many Americans keep the day of Mithra the sun god (Sunday) holy, America is not a Christian nation.

[@battlejitney2197]

I’ve been waiting for this one and it does not disappoint. HP is knocking it out of the park with this series of explainer videos. PS: I love Esau. I learn so much from his perspective on the American experience.

[@HolyPost]

Glad you're enjoying them! And to think, we still have six more to release!

[@MandK-i9x]

@@HolyPostWhoa! Six?!?! Yayyyyyy!!! ​

[@davidlafleche1142]

​@@HolyPostI would like to state at this time that the USA is not now, nor has it ever been, a Christian nation.

[@patricial.6758]

No, it is NOT a "Christian nation". There were and are multiple religions in the US. The Constitution states that government will not establish any religion. The first laws are secular and intended to apply to all without regard to religion. While it may be majority Christian which may change over time up or down, it is NOT a Christian nation. It's a treat all people decently and honorably regardless of religion nation.

[@davidlafleche1142]

@@patricial.6758 The USA was founded by devil worshipping Freemasons.

[@soledadportillo1928]

It's sickening how these hypocrites go around calling themselves "Christians" but acting like satan worshipers. if they behaved like christians they wouldn't have to go around saying it. All they do is ridicule themselves.

[@stephenpetry8697]

Thank you Esau. Christianity without living out the ways of Jesus and His love, grace, mercy and justice is not real Christianity. There is no such thing as Christian Nationalism. Never has been.

[@jameswarren180]

Christianity is not in the Bible anywhere.

[@Anabee3]

​@@jameswarren180 just bc you don't recognize what IS, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[@jameswarren180]

@@Anabee3 Man do not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God Yeshua.

[@jameswarren180]

@@Anabee3 Not your mouth okay Yeshua mouth cool.

[@denisemayosky1955]

Actually, ​@@Anabee3, it's true. Yes, the disciples were first called "Christians" in Antioch (and back then, it was kind of an insult - calling them "little Christs"). But back then, it was the gospel of the kingdom of God that was being preached. It's been said that Christianity as a religion came about during the time of Constantine, when it became "acceptable" and more and more infiltrated with the doctrines of men. What Christianity is today really bears little resemblance to the powerful early church that turned the world on its ear back then. Now you have divisions, and all sorts of hype and bluster from men trying to force it into their agenda and calling it "God's".

[@Samy-c8o]

Government has a foundation. But is separated from any religion .. It's LAWS are based on BIBLE TEACHINGS

[@TheTyper]

I was going to post something positive and try to be insightful but leave it to Esau to show us how many bars Frederick was spitting on the matter. I had to rewind and listen to that paragraph again.

[@HolyPost]

That quote is SO good!

[@Icooktheinternetbums]

​​​@@HolyPostyou guys look for issues, get in trouble and blame it on the American system. Sometimes I'm like you are doing that, that and that but when you get in trouble its the American system right? How about y'all don't look for trouble? Looting stores, fighting in the streets...I guess America tells you to go provoke other ppl. I guess America tells you to go loot stores.

[@mikeytrains1]

As an experiment where ALL MEN are equal; irregardless of their creed or other factors; America should not at all be a Christian nation. Even as a confirmed Roman Catholic, I see no reason why my faith should be at the helm. The only "Christian nation" is the faith you hold in your heart. Keep it there. Don't put it into any nation's workings. Religious states in the Middle East have been frowned upon since the 1970s, why must we ignore that and become one ourselves?

[@cody42693]

Well said!

[@Bob20011492]

This is succinct and powerful, and I wish that more of my fellow Americans would take seriously what is actually required of people who claim to follow Christ. I'm aware of the log in my own eye, and I can see clearly the specks in the eyes of my brothers and sisters; we ALL have work to do to see things as they truly are, and what they could be if we but had the will to make them so.

[@bethrossiter1857]

amen

[@wellhellothere6347]

Christ was very clear what was needed to follow him. You HAVE to love and believe in him, or you will be tortured for all eternity. You have to follow the old laws, including the ones that supported slavery, and that women were not fully human. To require love under the threat of torture is abuse. To follow bronze age and earlier laws that were abusive and wrong is nonsense. I prefer reality.

[@lue4724]

​@@wellhellothere6347 I thought it were Slaves/ Blacks- that were thought of-as subhuman? ( or 3/5ths Human).......😮😢

[@stephj9378]

When I have more time,I really want to listen to this podcast and engage in the comment section. I am a black, Christian raised Buddhist of 39 years I find myself almost always totally aligned with Christian principles . Because they are universal principles. We do need to have a convo on this topic because we have 'very fine' people of faith who are not Christian. And other very fine people- Christians - who can't fathom non Christians being full teammates in building Americans

[@lue4724]

@@wellhellothere6347 Old laws? Slavery & women were not fully human? Even tho Slavery had all its atrocities & a Woman gave birth to Jesus?..... Use your common sense - people see & hear things - the way they want to & also to justify things!

[@okay5045]

No it is not and never was. Most of the founding fathers were deist not Christians and they knew the dangers of creating a theocracy which is why there was a separation of church and state and no recognition of one religion over another. They put safe guards in place because of the corrupt nature of man.

[@jrick352]

Excellent insight....thank you!

[@overkall1691]

Where in the bible does it say go online and harass people with bad faith messages like a demon? Delete your channel.

[@christinechandler1662]

People who call themselves "Christians" miss the continual teaching throughout the Bible against denying justice to all. Oppression is condemned but most "Christians" ignore this fact as if they miss a central Bible teaching. They ignore the teaching of Matthew 25 and many other such teaching. I am a Caucasian woman, horribly traumatized throughout my life and I know from experience that injustice is rampant throughout America and that few people seem to care. And while the African American and native Americans have seen some of the worst of it, one is not exempt because of being "white". God is going to bring judgement on this country for its history of promoting injustice and oppression both at home and abroad. This podcast is an excellent statement to the American empire. Thank you brother for your work in putting out this word. God bless your endeavors.

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

So, what is it that you want to happen?

[@ericrivera8410]

As an atheist I have more.morals than.the priest whoolested me at ten years old

[@revanamessengeramongmany]

​@@Theo_Skeptomainot want. KNOW is coming. It's already begun. Judgement. Darkness cannot hide from Light .. too many crying out for Justice .. our Civilization crumbles now.

[@lancemcclung3991]

No, the Founding Fathers took great pains to ensure that, unlike England, there would be no state religion and no “head of the church” as a component of government. That said, the United States is firmly rooted in the cultural values of the Judeo-Christian morality and Protestant ethic.

[@ShiestyTv0]

Growing more Muslim by the day and it’s honestly a real high number of people that just simply claim Christianity because it’s a family thing but they have no interest in the religion

[@carlinthurston4473]

I like this Commentary! Very revelant and enlightening discourse! Thank you for the exhortation!!🙏🏾🙌🏾✝️👑💪🏽💪💞🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@patrickmccurdy8688]

Thank you Esau! Appreciate your expertise.

[@ShockOfGayness]

He's not an expert. He's a traitor.

[@personalguidancebyangelfir7825]

no sir.

[@jameswarren180]

I respect you a lot and think highly of you. I know we need to sit down and talk this out: What is Christianity, and where does it come from? What is a Christian, and where do they come from? Yeshua has never called anyone to become a Christian. God does not know what a Christian or Christianity is. Christianity is not even in the Bible anywhere so why are you shaping people to the world? Please if you can help I am my Father's son according to scripture. Thanks

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Getting lost in the word choice isn’t helpful. Christian is a term that bears discussion and definition, but it is the general term used in American English that adheres to a religion called Christianity that is based on Christ Jesus. How we choose to follow and what that means to us is a discussion well worth having. Denying that the words exist is sophistry, not theology.

[@arsellamichael9009]

"The freedom of religion,". Peope still using these words only when it is come to Christian but if you talk about Islam who rejects this and if you don't follow their way your are prosecuted. You are saying the freedom of religion because you don't have experience and have lived in islamic countries . If they will a rise, there will be no Christians left, which it happened in most of Middle East countries.

[@diaknight6770]

Yes it is and a lot of Christians can be mean.

[@abdulkarimsharifbey5660]

You can't go around forcing your Christian Dogma on people that don't want it

[@davidmccall4776]

America has clearly lost it's way, and seems perfectly content to stumble around in the darkness! First we stumble, and then we fall!🇺🇲🏳😔

[@MonicaMcMahon-y7s]

Think about Adam and Eva think about how they sin against god god was not pleased with them and god died on the cross for our sins so we may have life so there’s no nation we as Christian’s are believers in Christ Jesus

[@eireanneruss2311]

Any discussion of faith is not a question of history, instead it is a question of practical morality and service to mankind

[@RandyPeterson17]

Faith does not equal morality, it never has.

[@ScottRoche]

@@RandyPeterson17 She was speaking of practical morality and service which equals works and faith without works is dead. Works don't save, but they do indicate the state of our heart.

[@wellhellothere6347]

Morality deals in real harm and facts. Faith is based on nothing. So no, faith has nothing to do with history or morality, because faith is nothing real.

[@alexxb2047]

I just don't understand what you're trying to say by this. Also, separately the major flaw with practical Morality is the expectation of moral desert which sullies the intent behind those good actions instead of doing good to do good.

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

Only _individuals_ can be Christian, not nations.

[@Ratryggva1090]

The constitution is based on Judeo Christian principles. No specific church is to be considered the National Church, as was the case in England. At the time the constitution was written, some states had religious requirements. The constitution changed that.

[@sabbathtribute]

No. Religion is everyone's right, but it's personal. No religion is also everyone's right.

[@Y3llow4]

I really want one of these videos where you ask a question like this, then Esau comes on screen and is like..."no" and then the video ends

[@Andre-to1bw]

This nation was never a Christian nation. It was founded on Christian principles. If this were a Christian nation we would all be one church and there would be no division. We would teach the same thing. God hates division.

[@cody42693]

We were not founded on Christian principles.

[@Samy-c8o]

You may agree with the BIBLE... LET THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW DEFINE IT'S OWN SPIRIT GOODNESS IS.. LIFE IS LIFE PEACE IS PEACE

[@walkingmountain22]

It should be about works, not faith. You can claim to be a person following Christ, but if you do not back it up with doing good to all, it means nothing.

[@4ucarla885]

You do good works because you are a Christian, but you aren't a Christian because you do good works. After all, even a sinner can do good.

[@toreyhorton1789]

But all Christians are sinners. So, Christians who are sinners by nature do good works. And “good works” is subjective. The works outlined by scripture are those that should be considered “good” from God’s perspective, not man’s. So, you substantiate your claim of having faith and being a follower of Christ by your fruitful works that have been outlined in Christ's teachings. If you do not, it is simply an empty, worthless, or DEAD claim.

[@abdulkarimsharifbey5660]

Hell no read the Treaties, there were no Christians on this land before 1492.

[@billyclark9242]

There are Christians in this country but this nation is no longer a Christian country 😢 😢😢😢!!!

[@thomasmantifel8579]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

[@juliejen2605]

No, Jesus has to be in people's heart. We can pray that God draws people to Himself, but God will not force anybody to fellow Him. Following Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior is a personal choice. You can force someone to follow Jesus, it's up to the individual to make that decision. If it is forced, it isn't authentic.

[@dendennis9060]

IN GOD WE TRUST

[@erichammond9308]

@@dendennis9060 Did not exist until 1954.

[@douglasrigney9100]

The USA is a nation with all religions.

[@iceman96795]

No, if we were there wouldn’t be so much hate. We are a nation of hypocrites. Matthew 15:8 these people draweth nigh to me with their mouths and praise me with their lips but their hearts are far from me.

[@denisemayosky1955]

AMEN

[@CuriousCross]

America is a country that has welcomed people of all cultures, races, & Faith's. We would like to remain so. If Jesus came back today, He would be horrified if he saw what is being done in His name. With His message of LOVE ❤ for everyone, He wouldn't be accepted by the Powers That Be in our government any more than He was the first time He came to us.😢

[@matthijsklomp]

Thanks for this important perspective!

[@HolyPost]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@nicholaschupka4150]

Nope. Many will "say" we are, but they are wrong. As James Baldwin said, "I can't believe what you say because I see what you do."

[@stephj9378]

This doesn't make sense . Humans have standards but many fail to adhere to the standards. That doesn't mean the standards ,like religious principles ,are useless.

[@michaelazariah73]

I love ❤️ 😍 💖 this teaching of this brother in christ ❤️ 💙 ♥️ 😍 🙌

[@55msdrake]

Do you love his lies

[@HyPhuyenTheSwordPrince]

Christianity was a dark age until it became peace in the current years.

[@DANPER64]

First of all America is "NOT" a nation, America is a continent.

[@AnthonyHogan0311]

Apples and oranges.

[@jeancena3556]

The term “America” has been used to describe the US for decades, maybe a hundred years or more. Your nitpicking isnt needed

[@sparkles9965]

We are not a Christan nation we are a nation in which u may practice any faith

[@JhutaNabi]

What exactly is a “Christian nation”? Can someone show me a biblical basis for this concept? Every time people use this term, they seem to use cultural or secular pre-suppositions as criteria. Prayer in schools, people flocking to churches on Sunday, slogans like “In God We Trust”, or the constitution being based on the Mosaic Law (although that is highly debatable), and the like. The Old Testament lays out a clear framework for a “Jehovian nation”, with God as Israel’s King (1 Samuel 8:6-8). But do we see anything in the New Testament that even remotely resembles the framework for a “Christian nation”? If not, why not? “My kingdom is not of this world” ~Jesus “Two thousand years ago, Jesus said that His kingdom was not of this world, yet His followers have been trying to prove Him wrong ever since.” -Coleman Luck

[@bobbobberson5627]

I would say the empire from which the Bible sprang-Byzantium-has examples of Christian based governance to varying degrees throughout its history.

[@JhutaNabi]

@@bobbobberson5627 What do you mean by "christian based governance"? And, how is that different from prior non-christian governance? If you mean Constantine and his successors, again, what did they do that can be traced to the New Testament? In fact, a case could be made that that's when christianity as a faith started getting corrupted.

[@bobbobberson5627]

@@JhutaNabi without St. Constantine legalizing Christianity and holding the ecumenical councils the canon of scripture would not exist today as we know it. Christianity is found at the intersection of Hebrew spirituality, Greek philosophy, and Roman law. By Christian Governance I am referring to a system of government based on Christian values overseen by Christian men. As I said Byzantium has good(and bad) examples of this style of autocratic Christian governance followed by the baptism of Russia by extension.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@bobbobberson5627the legacy of Byzantium is far more remembered for the bad than the good. “Byzantine” is not a compliment - it usually means needlessly complicated and usually implies corruption, abuse of power, and malicious legalism. All things I actively reject and need less of in my life. Byzantium will not save us, and that corruption being tied up in the legacy we trust in scripture is part of why I remember Paul’s reminder that we know only in part. To be fair they were often aware of how fallen they were - there’s a reason the canon of scripture doesn’t include writings from the period of when it was assembled.

[@bethrossiter1857]

Great quote!

[@knownasstratagie8022]

The Bible also says religion will be our downfall.

[@DavidHoneycutt-h5k]

Great

[@marjoriegarland2798]

The Founding Fathers lived in a country that did not look like today's America! We are now large in population and extremely large in Diversity! This includes religion, a few examples being: Christian, Jewish, Islam, Hindi,etc. I am a Jewish American. My family emigrated here from different countries. On my Maternal Grandfather's side of the family they came here in the 1700's and 1800's. Some of these Jewish immigrants fought in the Civil War with Abraham Lincoln! As a Jewish American I went to public schools in New York. In grade school we recited the Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America. We learned about the holidays of different religions. NO PRAYER IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS: We attended churches or temples for religious education and to pray ❗This is not a Christian country anymore. It hasn't been for a long time. And as far as what used to be the "Christian values", those are very scarce now and were diminished throughout our history and world history because of prejudice, dislike and distain. The world now more than ever needs attributes like kindness, tolerance, caring, empathy.

[@AFRODYETE10]

Truthfully America has NEVER BEEN A CHRISTIAN NATION! But in fact America has many many many years with a super huge history of LIES, MURDERS SLAVERY,VIOLATION OF RIGHTS, RACISM and more against the 'real true' aboriginals people of America, Northwest Amexem called the MOORS not Indians! This is the Moroccan Empire! Stolen legacy! So many lies in America's history! This is the Northwest side of the Motherland! Facts! Please do your own research! Much peace and love!

[@chri6393]

No it's not. Never was. Never will be. We need to focus on growing God's kingdom

[@wiseman599]

Exactly, many are called but few are chosen.

[@VenusDiabla]

Yeah say that to us aboriginal natives who been here for centuries before Christianity and slavery reared its ugly head on these native shores!😂

[@glenclarkchidley3637]

All the hate leads me to say yes!

[@eddihurta7173]

No...Whatever happened to "FREEDOM OF RELIGION!" Instead of getting persecuted and abolished for "PRACTICING YOUR OWN RELIGION" if so someone failed at stopping Scientology and Mormonism

[@thuff3207]

You speak the truth

[@clydebermingham121]

FREDERICK DOUGLASS wrote : “You beat me on Monday… You beat me on Tuesday …. You beat me on Wednesday… You beat me on Thursday … You beat me on Friday … You beat me on Saturday ….. And went to church on Sunday …. I so rather the Christianity of CHRIST …”

[@pinebarrenpatriot8289]

Christian or not, AMERICA IS TRUMP NATION now🇺🇸

[@erichammond9308]

@@pinebarrenpatriot8289 "America is Trump, Trump is America! America over all! Trump over all! Hail Trump!" You recognize the sound of it? Think Germany in the 1930's and realize what you sound like.

[@pinebarrenpatriot8289]

@erichammond9308 WHO hates cops and Jews on college campuses just like the Nazi's? Who wants to ban guns like the Nazi's in 1936? Which side tried to assassinate its opponent twice? WOKE fascist Democrats are the Nazi fascists in 2024. OPEN YOUR EYES like the rest of America did last week😁🇺🇸

[@pinebarrenpatriot8289]

@erichammond9308 your side hates jews, wants to ban guns, and tries to assassinate political opponents. America knows the woke Left are the real nazi fascists and that's why lost badly🙂

[@stacybritton1118]

If. It. Was. Don. Would. Never. Been. Got. In. The. White. House

[@sladewalters]

Amen.

[@nicolejennings8389]

Most of the original pilgrims were Christian, protestant or quakers, so they were seeking religious freedom away from Europe who were not letting them worship the way they wanted bc they were catholic. The first colonies were full of Christian families.

[@kisslena]

Follow Jesus.

[@ichthys4147]

Dr. McCaulley rocks!!! 😀

[@1Ultimate-Model-Beauty1]

We are not a Christian country. It's freedom of religion