Is Approaching Women Just a Numbers Game?

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Todd V Dating

Todd V Dating

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@ToddVDating
@ToddVDating 3 жыл бұрын
I hear this all the time... but is it actually true? Let's take a closer look!
@regieegseg8588
@regieegseg8588 3 жыл бұрын
Add this face on every thumbnail please!!
@JBulsa
@JBulsa 3 жыл бұрын
Only watch the last 3 minutes of all videos
@shueyfogel6441
@shueyfogel6441 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Todd, I've noticed a certain phenomenon that happens particularly for number closes. I'll be talking to a girl online (online dating or Instagram) and she seems very invested in her responses and then when I ask for her number, she'll stop replying. Any advice how to avoid this phenomenon and gauge her buying temperature while also trying to not dick around texting her online longer than needed.
@1bosstv
@1bosstv 2 жыл бұрын
@@shueyfogel6441 Those are just attention whores. It's always when you go for the close and out of idle chit-chat you find the real interest level of these women.
@geoffreyparker2786
@geoffreyparker2786 3 жыл бұрын
Todd, I hope you see this but don't stop helping us who want to improve our lives.
@sleepysroom
@sleepysroom 3 жыл бұрын
I want to say thank you, from the bottom of my heart. because of men like you and others as well, I have come to see the error in my ways and mindset I just got into game back in March. This is life changing shit. It has even carried over to other things in my life, because I realised I need to change my life in order to change my attitude and approach towards women and anything else that comes my way. Guys. Everyone here. Listen to this man.
@krizo3
@krizo3 3 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@yourvision4986
@yourvision4986 3 жыл бұрын
Todd V Pro-Tip: Game is a numbers game, however the better your Game the better your numbers.
@johnp9890
@johnp9890 3 жыл бұрын
"a ray of hope", that says a lot about the western dating situation.
@babisbabinos8075
@babisbabinos8075 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard this phrase since Beyblade Metal Fury's last episode.
@allenbro9900
@allenbro9900 3 жыл бұрын
This is a pessimistic view in my opinion. It has nothing to do With cultural causes. It has always been difficult because of evolutionary forces and the different mating strategies between men and women a good book on this is the evolution of desire by David buss
@ajedrezbrasil7968
@ajedrezbrasil7968 3 жыл бұрын
@@allenbro9900 it has everything to do with cultural causes because when resources are scarce and violence rules, like living outside of a society and more like ancient times before civilization, then populations are small and lot more men have a chance with girls, at least while they are alive. even at the starting or intermediate periods of civilization there was a lot more chances for the average man in the sense that you could just trade valuable resources like animals for less valuable resources like women (who couldn't even work) or later in the intermediate period of civilization like up until the 1800s or even the 1900s you had a society where there was an agreement that most men would get just one girl for the rest of their lives and the girls would be heavily supervised and penalized to ensure this outcome. The fact is civilization is kinda based on the fact that a lot of men will work together because they will all survive and have a chance with women, instead of fighting each other endless for small amounts of resources or become victims to bigger rival tribes or countries. so, because women tend to gravitate towards only 20-30% of men when they are living in big cities, that makes impossible for the average men.
@allenbro9900
@allenbro9900 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajedrezbrasil7968 please read that book it is very eye opening
@Paul-yk7ds
@Paul-yk7ds 3 жыл бұрын
@@allenbro9900 I would say the Western dating situation is indeed more difficult today because 70% of the population is overweight, 40% is obese, and a bunch of people have obnoxious feminist attitudes. So attractive, pleasant women have become an artificially scarce resource.
@robertsullivan9232
@robertsullivan9232 2 жыл бұрын
As a realtor/salesman this is 100%. Thing I always tell myself no holding back don’t half ass it. Never just go through the motions because that next call can be a new listing/deal. I work with the best realtor in my area so I know that they’re getting the best service working with me. I fully embrace the moment and just get so into it, I used to rely on script but I’ve noticed genuine confidence is 80% of it where some knowledge and conversational structure is the other 20%. All while always striving to get a minimal amount of contacts everyday(numbers game). I know that the first phone call can be a listing, and I also know that I can speak with 15 homeowners straight and not one wants to sell but EVERY TIME without fail by the time I’ve spoken to 30 homeowners I’ve gotten at least 2 people who say they want to sell. …… but as I’ve gotten better with speaking the amount of people who are more open to selling has risen dramatically. No holding back (embrace any emotions you have), pay attention to the other person, and expect the best
@rickmuc089
@rickmuc089 3 жыл бұрын
Its mostly like this: Number 1: Texting/talking to girls and I need a lot to get to Number 2: Meeting up with a few Number 3: Second, third dates and so on with even less girls that like me back Number 4: Eventually messing it up with the one I really really start to like (by prob showing it too much) Back to Number 1...
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 3 жыл бұрын
We want to try and please everybody. But, most ppl you meet probably aren't gonna like you for who you are. That's just the harsh reality.
@dreamwalker5578
@dreamwalker5578 3 жыл бұрын
Why is it ,that as soon that the girl knows, that you like her she don’t want you anymore?! Wtf. Isn’t it normal that we like each other if we spent time together, so it’s obvious?! Or I’m missing something?
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@dreamwalker5578 She has too many options. She rather be with the cocky dude that doesn't give her much attention.
@chilled99
@chilled99 3 жыл бұрын
@@CommandoMaster so be that guy. Women are counter-intuitive which is why logical people like guys find them confusing/frustrating
@rickmuc089
@rickmuc089 3 жыл бұрын
@@dreamwalker5578 I think it really depends on the personality as well as the age of the girl. With my 3 ex girlfriends it went smoothly, I couldnt do anything wrong. They would like me even when I showed them my feelings. On the other hand I recently got rejected by a girl that seemed so into me, told me stuff that she couldnt stop thinking about me, was always trying to touch me etc. But now out of the blue she "cant imagine this going further".
@danijelpirc2821
@danijelpirc2821 3 жыл бұрын
hard work (reps) + smart work (specifically focusing on every single rep to make it as quality as possible)
@christiansnaturestudio6599
@christiansnaturestudio6599 2 жыл бұрын
So girls don't work out in the dating world? That sucks.
@bLu48o
@bLu48o 3 жыл бұрын
incredible how this applies to every skill!
@cerebrala69
@cerebrala69 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Todd is a very smart man.
@dududu5189
@dududu5189 3 жыл бұрын
Why is that fun?
@Benzogotbands
@Benzogotbands 3 жыл бұрын
You’re so smart Todd, some of the stuff you say are amazing points and I question how I didn’t notice it myself. Great vid.
@MrYogo1
@MrYogo1 3 жыл бұрын
Todds games and his video editing styles makes me so happy
@snipewa4
@snipewa4 3 жыл бұрын
I’m struggling to figure myself out and reach a place of self love. I’ve been single for about a year and a half now. I often see women out in public that part of me wishes I could go talk to but I think I’m honestly more fearful of a gal saying yes than I am of the rejection. I’ve never cold approached anyone before either and I’m not sure what I’d even say. Either way I’m thankful resources like this and appreciate Todd taking the time to share his best practices. A channel that I’ve subscribed to and will have to revisit when I’m feeling better. All the best.
@David-vt9hr
@David-vt9hr 3 жыл бұрын
try being single for 29 years and counting
@chrisblack6039
@chrisblack6039 3 жыл бұрын
My first ever cold approach (nightgame) gave me a false sense of confidence as I got laid on my first actual approach lol I thought 'this stuff works!'. I then made very similar approaches (open, tease, DHV, make a cold read etc) on the next 150 girls and got rejected every time haha (not necessarily insta rejections, but interactions where the girl had no interest in sex with me basically) Embrace the fact that it's a game of numbers. You can't force attraction in a girl. If you're not her type, no PUA material is gonna magically make her sexually attracted to you Keep out of your head worrying about that stuff. It doesn't help. People get laid in spite of it. Not because of it.
@LuciosLair
@LuciosLair 3 жыл бұрын
If u got rejected on the next 150 bro u just were lucky on the first and did everything wrong in the following.
@chrisblack6039
@chrisblack6039 3 жыл бұрын
@@LuciosLair disagree. You can do everything perfect, but if you're not her type, you're not her type.
@phantom_mist1726
@phantom_mist1726 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you're absolutely ugly or you're absolutely saying everything wrong. There is no way you can approach 150 girls and ALL of them reject you. It's ridiculous. That's a lot of women. You'd be getting better each time, after the 5th one rejection you'd naturally look at your game and see what you can do better.
@masculinerevamp144
@masculinerevamp144 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm maybe you're in a bad area where there's an over saturation of quality options for women
@adamhenry1456
@adamhenry1456 2 жыл бұрын
Did you actually approach 150 girls or are you just saying that.
@dannybaloi
@dannybaloi 3 жыл бұрын
This video was very useful and I agree with most of it... I just have something to add for the advanced guys. Some of the guys i know who are somewhere between intermediate and advanced never realize that they're approach was good and if the number games is not working in their favor they blame their game... When you are advanced you should realize that there is little things you can do to make it better and when it does not work you should just accept it's a number game at this point and stop bashing yourself...
@SuperSymbiote1
@SuperSymbiote1 2 жыл бұрын
What is their success rate?1 in 10
@LOGOASSASSIN
@LOGOASSASSIN 3 жыл бұрын
Always the best analysis and advice.
@jamesbuteaux5951
@jamesbuteaux5951 3 жыл бұрын
Its sales. If you want to sell 1, you have to speak to 10, get 3 to the table, close on 1. Deal. Nobody has a 50% closing ratio.
@ifeelhalfnaked484
@ifeelhalfnaked484 3 жыл бұрын
its just luck if you manage to close within 50-70% that month the rest, rejections always more than success. It's like pareoto principle
@ajedrezbrasil7968
@ajedrezbrasil7968 3 жыл бұрын
@Arid Sohan but he relied on waiting until drunk girls are easy
@ajedrezbrasil7968
@ajedrezbrasil7968 3 жыл бұрын
@Arid Sohan he said so himself
@Alexander87oclock
@Alexander87oclock 3 жыл бұрын
Damn how is it that Todd just comes through with the right video every time I need it. Good looking out man.
@caseyfixterfixter4447
@caseyfixterfixter4447 3 жыл бұрын
5:33 that guy on the bike. I’m sure he falls off as he goes past the camera. You can hear the sound of something banging. Hats off too Todd for playing it cool 😂
@Pyro2352
@Pyro2352 3 жыл бұрын
I think he just rode on a metal platform/bridge. You can hear the front wheel and then the back wheel hit the metal.
@dududu5189
@dududu5189 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was just a fake background?
@GishStyle
@GishStyle 3 жыл бұрын
i really like the old-new style of video - talking outside with a city background, and very little subtitles emphasizing the points
@patrickdakis4437
@patrickdakis4437 3 жыл бұрын
Those beats sound fresh in the beginning and end of video!! 🎶
@bhudson421
@bhudson421 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know if you're doing a quality approach? How do you quantify that since an approach can look different for everybody?
@ivankov1986
@ivankov1986 3 жыл бұрын
You will know when you start to improve, even subconsciously you know when you did better than last time. Take notes of your improvements though
@bhudson421
@bhudson421 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivankov1986 Gotcha. Thanks for replying!
@LakeAllfredLuigi
@LakeAllfredLuigi 3 жыл бұрын
Todd all your KZbin video are gold. Please keep them coming. Got the system love it!
@Joniyah444
@Joniyah444 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you Todd
@kchiang4
@kchiang4 3 жыл бұрын
I think this one is common sense… people naturally want to improve and intuitively seek to see what they could have done better. I honestly can’t imagine people not trying their best either…
@thatsanginman6930
@thatsanginman6930 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a conversation between todd v and Jordan Peterson
@emmanueldefelipe5918
@emmanueldefelipe5918 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing
@BigGamingBossMan
@BigGamingBossMan 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson would absolutely rip him to shreds.
@andytdm
@andytdm 3 жыл бұрын
How did he film this video and blur the background like that and keep perfect audio? Green screen? Lol
@peterhousing3020
@peterhousing3020 3 жыл бұрын
persistence is pointless if you dont have skill
@Futureweapon710
@Futureweapon710 3 жыл бұрын
Bro do you not have to persist to gain a skill it doesn't happen over night
@jojobaggins9224
@jojobaggins9224 3 жыл бұрын
That's a dumb thing to say, you get skill through persistence
@kirapoodle
@kirapoodle 3 жыл бұрын
How did you learn to walk then? How did you learn to read? You didn't have the skill but acquired it through persistency.
@timothystokes6337
@timothystokes6337 3 жыл бұрын
Another important factor is that not all girls are looking to meet someone. Some are married, some are lesbians, some already in relationships etc. Persisting with them is stupid and just waste of your time. Like if you wanted to sell cars, it would be stupid to approach random people on the street and measure your conversion that way. The right way to do it would be to find people who actually need a car, and which % of them you can convince to buy.
@ifeelhalfnaked484
@ifeelhalfnaked484 3 жыл бұрын
Found the right people, but nervous to convey value and lost the lead. Its still fucking up. Beginners have to do the volume thing to get used to being rejected, first
@timothystokes6337
@timothystokes6337 3 жыл бұрын
@@ifeelhalfnaked484 For beginners I would advice looking for girls who are immediately interested after you approach and learning how to not fuck it up from there. That's like 10% of girls. Wasting time on others and trying to turn it around would be waste of time.
@timothystokes6337
@timothystokes6337 3 жыл бұрын
@@ifeelhalfnaked484 And I would not consider that a "rejection", that's kinda negative term that lowers your self confidence. If I approached you and suggested to buy my car and you refused, does that mean the car is not good enough? Maybe, but more likely it has nothing to do with the car's quality. The reason is you're just not looking for a car right now.
@ifeelhalfnaked484
@ifeelhalfnaked484 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothystokes6337 just leave the time wasters on side, hit them up months later, maybe the window will still be there. I think i asked out a woman after being rejected like 5x after first date and we hooked up later
@ifeelhalfnaked484
@ifeelhalfnaked484 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothystokes6337 rejection means she dismiss you AFTER hearing your outputs. So before she even know your name, those are not rejections.
@poorboi8093
@poorboi8093 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, like Poker or Black Jack, you only need that one good card, you only need one good girl to make you happy, but due to low self esteem and insecurity and media males are pressured to think that they need 100+ girls to be worthy and happy and be able to call themselves a masculine male.
@ifeelhalfnaked484
@ifeelhalfnaked484 3 жыл бұрын
You need to be rich to a point where being rich doesn't matter. So if you tell a newbie dont sleep with lots of girls, he cant really interpret the life of a male ho.
@ajedrezbrasil7968
@ajedrezbrasil7968 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with sex drive and wanting have fun?
@dexter576
@dexter576 3 жыл бұрын
Needed this video
@KingCol
@KingCol 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Numbers game played an important role in my journey.
@jacksonzheng3103
@jacksonzheng3103 3 жыл бұрын
What are we talking about in terms of lots of approaches? 10 numbers from girls a week? 100 a week? Or is it based on purely approaches, like 10 approaches a week, 100 approaches, that kind of thing?
@SherlockMen
@SherlockMen 3 жыл бұрын
He once got 23 numbers in 2 hours, talking to roughly 30 girls.
@SherlockMen
@SherlockMen 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip7LaJqXh5KpeK8
@eyesburning
@eyesburning 3 жыл бұрын
Did you even listen to the video? It depends on you and your skill level. Quality over quantity.
@ajedrezbrasil7968
@ajedrezbrasil7968 3 жыл бұрын
do 4 approaches every day
@SuperSymbiote1
@SuperSymbiote1 2 жыл бұрын
@@eyesburning He means for the advanced, what is their ratio for x number of approaches?
@FloralShoppingCard
@FloralShoppingCard 3 жыл бұрын
the numbers game DOES apply to advanced still. it only says that no matter how good you are, you wont get every girl because of the variables.
@ozunu1437
@ozunu1437 3 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to tell the girl you're dating that you love her? When is it ok? How should you express that? What if she asks you if you love her or not? How to react?
@erindeerhart5538
@erindeerhart5538 3 жыл бұрын
Of course it's okay. It's your relationship. However, I think it's best to show it through your actions first. If they're well received and she seems to reciprocate or at least want to, when to do it depends on her, on you, and on your type of relationship. A very important note, though. "I love you" should never be used as a means to get an "I love you" back. The best attitude is "this is how I feel, I'm not going to apologize for it, and it's okay if you're not on the same page right now."
@erindeerhart5538
@erindeerhart5538 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't know if you love her or not, you can be honest. As I said, none of us should feel pressured into saying "I love you" before we're ready.
@abhisheksoni4342
@abhisheksoni4342 3 жыл бұрын
Besides content, I like the music and the poster of this video!
@stayhungry1503
@stayhungry1503 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr Todd I think you should make a video about how to meet the RIGHT woman for you. How to find out quickly if you fit together well with someone for a longterm relationship. This might sound like a no brainer to some, but boy it sure is not. And you can trick yourself easily too into thinking that you fit with someone. Lets say you love starwars, and you start talking to a cute girl who is into starwars also. Then most guys will be like "Omg we are meant to be together!" When in actuality that small detail doesnt need to mean anything. In a lot of cases people mask their true personality and background also and it doesnt truly come out until much later. There must be clever tests you can do to really know if you fit with another person. I am a little bit tired personally of just hearing about how to get laid with random people.
@AudiFanPK
@AudiFanPK 3 жыл бұрын
There is no way to do this. The basics are figuring out if you have the same fundamentals (religion, kids, finances, norms and values, etc.). And from there: Take a long time to vet. One year minimum. People can only fake who they are for so long. Get to know her friends, family, etc. The rule of: If her 5 best friends are like x, she's like that as well is a very strong indicator. Lastly: There is no one special one, but there any many close fits.
@ajedrezbrasil7968
@ajedrezbrasil7968 3 жыл бұрын
In this case just look for girls who are more on the boring shy side. Those who need to depend on you. Who are more religious and who are more family oriented. Those who had few partners. Maybe you can find them on a public park or coffee shop, but probably not in a bar, etc. If they are 6/10 or 7/10 on looks that's maybe even better than 8-9-10 girls on looks. Because it will be less likely that they will cheat on you or make too many demands. Also, if you can meet them on a church and if they are poor or don't want to / can't go to college, then that's even better because they will depend on you more. So, don't look for dating advice from Tod, he is just on picking girls for fun and market. He probably already accepted that it's too hard to find wife material those days.
@stayhungry1503
@stayhungry1503 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajedrezbrasil7968 thx man good advice!
@ajedrezbrasil7968
@ajedrezbrasil7968 3 жыл бұрын
@@stayhungry1503 I mean, approaching girls is nice to have a variety while you are single, so you don't become needy. You also gain good social experience, like learning how to talk to girls and you also learns how to deal with rejection. Maybe you even get to have a few relationships with some of the girls you approach, but probably the relationships won't last, but it will be more experience acquired anyway, experience is always valuable as it may turn helpful later. But if you are looking for a serious relationship, then the friendzone actually becomes desirable in a way I think. Obviously the friendzone means you can't progress with a person to a relationship and that's a problem, but if you are looking for a serious relationship, then knowing the person for a long time is a good thing and who knows if a girl may not end up desiring a relationship with you after a few years. It's also unlikely that you will be stuck at the friendzone if you disappear during certain periods or become more attractive in the sense that your female friends can see you with other girls or progressing in your job or talking about more interesting stuff, taking care of yoursel and changing your style. Ultimately you can't end up in the friendzone forever with ALL your female friends if you show interest like touching their hands and glancing ambiguously and making them laugh, at least while you two have a drink (when people drink that's when they act on their desires). But if you don't like the idea of being friends first due to the risk of falling in the friendzone for too long, then you can still become "friends" with a girl, but don't be too close and just try to strike at the first 20 hours you spent together. Don't just treat them like a friend when you meet them. Show you like them through touch and compliment their style and talk to them more than you talk to other people, tell you like them if the message isn't clear enough and that you want more or ask a friend to tell. Then you can just try to escalate the situation by getting alone with her in whatever environment and then getting more physical, kissing, etc. or just propose a date to try just that. The problem with modern relationships is you can't expect them to last too much. So it's a lot of heartbreaks, but you can minimize that by trying to go for girls who are more into serious relationships like girls who are from a church or younger girls like 16-18-20 are also better for relationships because they get attached more easily, but the age is up to your country laws. Also, maybe girls who are like between the ages of 25-30 are even better for a serious relationship sometimes, but women who are too focused on a career or who were with too many partners usually don't make for good long term relationships, but if they talk about marriage and having kids, than that's something to start with. If you are with someone for a year or two years, you either have kids with that girl or it's just going to end badly sooner or later, but if you decides to have kids, it's always risky too because she can still break up, although it becomes less likely, and then the kid you won't grow with a solid family foundation and that's obviously a problem, but life is uncertain and unless society becomes more conservative again, this risk will always exist no matter how many years you wait to have kids and you are probably losing her until the point she decides she is ready if that takes more than 1-2 years.
@IvanGicos1
@IvanGicos1 3 жыл бұрын
i love the intro todd
@By.daniieel
@By.daniieel 3 жыл бұрын
Answer: It is, with game you'll capitalize the women who give you time and are at least a bit attracted to you To think the numbers game will ever stop applying to you is non sense, there will always be women who doesn't like you, or have bad logistics or whatever and you must necessarily keep approaching until finding one who is attracted to you and has the logistics to make something happen
@ifeelhalfnaked484
@ifeelhalfnaked484 3 жыл бұрын
Blindly going on dates with BAD logistics doesn't help, at least for me. I went on countless first or 2nd date i didn't get laid, that was not how it supposed to be done.
@By.daniieel
@By.daniieel 3 жыл бұрын
@@ifeelhalfnaked484 Read my comment again
@ifeelhalfnaked484
@ifeelhalfnaked484 3 жыл бұрын
@@By.daniieel i elaborated
@x97s
@x97s 3 жыл бұрын
This isnt true but believe what you want to believe
@eyesburning
@eyesburning 3 жыл бұрын
Dude...did you even watch the video?...
@dimex3362
@dimex3362 3 жыл бұрын
The numbers game always applies. Its just that as you get better and better, your percentages shoot way up. You go from getting a number 1 in 20 approaches, to getting laid in around 1 in 3 approaches, also you approach easier sets that you know are more likely to hook, from experience.
@adrianchico8886
@adrianchico8886 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the numbers game ?
@Nadox15
@Nadox15 2 жыл бұрын
I never ever believe that you get 1 number out of 3 approaches. Statistically speaking its already wrong. If we assume that 30% people are already in a relationship (of course we all have the skill to game a girl that is in a relationship, i know i know) you have 2 tries left. The 2 and 3 girls have to like you and you habe to game them. There are so many reasons that you are going to fall with them. I would see realistically speaking you get a number out of 5-7 girls and fuck 1/20 (day game) but just if you are really GOOD.
@dimex3362
@dimex3362 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nadox15 you aren’t factoring in going after “sure things” and girls that are hot to trot and chicks that are giving you obvious ioi’s… so your math seduction analysis doesn’t have the right parameters set in. I can easily go 90% per night for numbers if I want to, by approaching fewer chicks and only going for obvious IOI’s.
@Nadox15
@Nadox15 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimex3362 lol that makes no sense at all, its like saying I get 100% numbers of girls that love me and wanna sick my dick
@dimex3362
@dimex3362 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nadox15 ye, that’s still a numbers game. Maybe not the numbers game that you speak of, but it is one, and it is with merit because you can get better at picking your targets and better at knowing what your specific targets want. But you will never be 100%. It’s always a numbers game, but you can always get better.
@Frostypower
@Frostypower 3 жыл бұрын
Short answer: no Long answer: noooooo
@Zacksleeps
@Zacksleeps 3 жыл бұрын
It's a numbers game at every level. Who here has seen the uncut/streaming infield footage from people like Simplepickup and even some RSD products like Max's one. It's so clear that when you approach a girl who isn't into you, there's nothing you can do to turn it around. Even Todd's bench rejection was an example tbh. Game simply does a poor job at attraction. Attraction material (negs, cold reads, self amusement etc) (depending on your model/guru) is simply no match for someone she is physically attracted too. You can't make a girl attracted with them techniques. There's no jedi advanced level where you can basically point and click and bang any single girl you want. It's pure marketing i'm afraid. Being good at game is simply consistently closing the attracted girls. People try to 'learn' from their rejections, but unless he was really running god awful game with no eye contact etc, then the rejection was likely a lack of attraction rather than his game. Thus there was actually nothing to learn, but of course the PUA will deduce that his approach angle was the reason or something
@Stealth797
@Stealth797 3 жыл бұрын
Not even bro.There's SOOO many times I've hooked up with a girl who's initially given me the cold shoulder. Also the hottest girls, the legit 9s & 10s rarely give out IOIs/"choosing signals". They'll act super aloof as a kind of shit test to separate the sex worthy alphas from the betas. There’s a reason Mystery’s goal in the old days was “5 for 5″. Because using Mystery Method and the old tech, 5 for 5 was actually an attainable goal. We weren’t just going for whichever random girl will take us, we were picking the girls we wanted and when we got in set going “ok this girl gives NO fucks about me…now how can I change that and get her to chase me?” I can’t even count the number of times girls were surprised we hooked up because I’m not normally their type (they’ll flat out tell me that lol). Like they don’t even really understand what happened because objectively looking at me they’ve never been attracted to guys like me. So a lot of guys gaming now would get a cold initial reception from her and just “Next” her (can’t Next a girl you haven’t fucked, if she isn’t into you that’s her Next’ing YOU). But with oldschool game I’m flipping all the right switches with my game that “her type” normally flips and they end up sleeping with me and then being like “I don’t get it, I shouldn’t be into this guy”. It was a lot more like puzzle solving VS the shotgun numbers game guys are running now. That’s a big part of why I don’t flinch when girls are initially unreceptive to me… in my mind it doesn’t matter, because I’ll win them over. In practice I might NOT, but I’ll stand a pretty damn good chance of it.
@Zacksleeps
@Zacksleeps 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stealth797 Mysery gets rejected just as much as the next guy i'm afraid. When he or any other PUA opens a girl who isn't remotely attracted, it always ends up in their 'rejection compilations' that grace their premium products. ps - i'm pretty sure you're just quoting from yareally!! (so you're lying lol). Yes, i've read yareally's book. Your quotes rang a bell straight away. Surely this proves my point!!!
@timothystokes6337
@timothystokes6337 3 жыл бұрын
That's just not true. Simple explanation. Men look for replication value in girls (physical attractiveness), whereas girls look for survival value. Being good looking helps with survival value, but not much. What's more important is your status in the tribe, resources, social alliances, confidence etc. That's exactly what game is meant to convey.
@x97s
@x97s 3 жыл бұрын
Thats some bs but believe what you want to believe
@johnnyblaze9158
@johnnyblaze9158 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stealth797 You’re right. A lack of physical attraction initially can definitely be turned around with good game in many cases. There’s more to attraction than looks that’s for sure.
@puathrowawayaccount8124
@puathrowawayaccount8124 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video todd. One question though, what lens do you use in these videos?
@marcjost6695
@marcjost6695 3 жыл бұрын
You so fucking right man!!! This week was fucking shit with daygame, only few girls I really liked and most I didn’t approach, think I just made to much progress the week before where I just got the number of a really hot brunette and now I’m to much in the comfort zone. Need to get out again of the comfort zone!!!!
@noahwallace3458
@noahwallace3458 Жыл бұрын
I’d say yes and no but you can increase the normal numbers but can’t catch them all
@tomaspeixinho4447
@tomaspeixinho4447 3 жыл бұрын
Was that a huge cockroach on the back at 6:10? 😨
@pt5941
@pt5941 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever it was... It was fast.
@RJ-is9ko
@RJ-is9ko 3 жыл бұрын
More like a rat of some sort
@dududu5189
@dududu5189 3 жыл бұрын
Mouse
@yuthpatirathi2719
@yuthpatirathi2719 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you dude
@JiaruiChen_
@JiaruiChen_ 3 жыл бұрын
why you don't upload infield
@lazarjocic5829
@lazarjocic5829 4 ай бұрын
The numbers game is a vehicle while you are just a driver.
@kayletvgaming7096
@kayletvgaming7096 3 жыл бұрын
Todd I love you hope can do I boot camp on ASIA (Philippines to be exact) there are many PUA's here :)
@Basedlocation
@Basedlocation 2 жыл бұрын
At 1:20 you can hear woman laughing at him because he spoke to loudly
@neilazeez101
@neilazeez101 3 жыл бұрын
Todd the 🐐
@jackbrady9738
@jackbrady9738 3 жыл бұрын
Does he own any other shirt?
@jackbrady9738
@jackbrady9738 3 жыл бұрын
@Arid Sohan no shit was a joke
@Mrsunber98
@Mrsunber98 3 жыл бұрын
Video on how to regain power/frame in a relationship
@chilled99
@chilled99 3 жыл бұрын
Check out a Patrice O'Neal video
@tortugatech
@tortugatech 3 жыл бұрын
3:25 What was that?
@aygwm
@aygwm 3 жыл бұрын
You can get the numbers way way down by just being smart…
@hardstyle3196
@hardstyle3196 3 жыл бұрын
Lol that thumbnail
@thehonestjourney-s2w
@thehonestjourney-s2w 3 жыл бұрын
But I feel like this is contradictory to what you have said in your other videos where you talk about how even just off sheer volume you can get good results and how when you first got into game even though you were bad just by sheer volume and playing the numbers game you got more then even the most attractive guys in your college who didn’t cold approach.
@erindeerhart5538
@erindeerhart5538 3 жыл бұрын
And as he said, it's great for newbies who don't know anything yet and just need encouragement. He also said that at intermediate level you may get fewer dates, but if you're constantly improving, you'll need to put a lot less effort into getting them, and the quality will improve as well.
@thehonestjourney-s2w
@thehonestjourney-s2w 3 жыл бұрын
@@erindeerhart5538 he said that it’s a great mentality to have, but that it’s not actually true for beginners. Yet in his other videos he says that it was true for him as a beginner and that he was getting more girls then most guys at his college just by sheer volume.
@erindeerhart5538
@erindeerhart5538 3 жыл бұрын
@@thehonestjourney-s2w Fair point.
@HYCbruno
@HYCbruno 2 жыл бұрын
Of course not...the tighter your game the better the chances. Also looks are important too. The thing is most guys just suck a dealing with women, theyre too oblivious. They bought into the just be yourself bro mentality and are so miscalibrated and socially unaware its laughable, 0 body language, 0 social awareness, etc. Also the moment a girl says no they immediately give up to protect their egos
@Annarbormich
@Annarbormich 3 жыл бұрын
Todd can we get your intake on the whole red pill thing? Also you should do fresh and fit podcast
@techmice4593
@techmice4593 3 жыл бұрын
yea if they can't get Mystery on then at least get this guy on.
@tateseacrest4609
@tateseacrest4609 3 жыл бұрын
Fucken Luv ya todd
@mr.e4381
@mr.e4381 2 жыл бұрын
My first cold approach: "I'm transgender"
@coldsteel2105
@coldsteel2105 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why it's a numbers game is that the most attractive women are the most likely to have serious boyfriends or be married. Women are attracted to confidence, and that means not being afraid of rejection. The quickest way for a man to get a woman to like him and respect him is to propose a sexual relationship and get a yes, no or maybe upfront. Even if the answer is no, she'll respect him more than she does the other men who showed interest but weren't bold enough to shoot their shot.
@By.daniieel
@By.daniieel 3 жыл бұрын
Let me spoiler you something: If you take that BS from Alan Currie, you're doomed for failure and the only answer you'll get to your " Upfront sexual relationship propose" is: "NO AND GET THE FCK AWAY FROM ME!! YOU CREEP"
@adj5767
@adj5767 3 жыл бұрын
@@By.daniieel lol....true. I was laughing at that post 😆😅🤣. That is a true recipe for ridicule and failure, as in it will take you a while to recover...who teaches these guys these things??
@ajedrezbrasil7968
@ajedrezbrasil7968 3 жыл бұрын
Your talking was nice up until the point you talked about sexual stuff. Actually, you can try to invite a girl home, but probably getting to know her first is better.. but you can try anyway, but most times it won't work obviously. But if you talk to 100 girls and 10 are receptive or show some interest, 5 end up really liking you, why not trying ask at least one of the five to go home with you? But asking a girl you never even kissed to go home with you is 100% not going to work.
@coldsteel2105
@coldsteel2105 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajedrezbrasil7968 A sexual relationship could be F-buddies, casual dating or formal dating. If you don't propose it upfront, it's proof that you're afraid of rejection and lack confidence. That makes you less attractive, and it's how you friend-zone yourself.
@coldsteel2105
@coldsteel2105 3 жыл бұрын
@@By.daniieel It's actually the opposite. It's creepy to try to hide the fact that you want to date or sleep with the woman. She'll know that you lack confidence and are afraid of rejection.
@AndreTudor
@AndreTudor 3 жыл бұрын
Yo' man, this is your 2nd thumbnail with that face, it doesn't flatter you. You should change it. Just my perception... :|
@vKillua_
@vKillua_ 3 жыл бұрын
Real Life meme at 3:27 anyone?
@MikeEnergy_
@MikeEnergy_ 3 жыл бұрын
🐐
@BigGamingBossMan
@BigGamingBossMan 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not a damn numbers game. That’s hella cope. You’re either a physically attractive desirable man or YOU’RE NOT
@paulgreengod
@paulgreengod 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment is a literal cope
@alangwhiteTheBoss
@alangwhiteTheBoss 3 жыл бұрын
It is a numbers game long story short
@eyesburning
@eyesburning 3 жыл бұрын
No, a better summary is: Game is a numbers game, however the better your Game the better your numbers.
@christiansnaturestudio6599
@christiansnaturestudio6599 2 жыл бұрын
@@eyesburning I hate that game
@DjPyro2010
@DjPyro2010 3 жыл бұрын
Too many people are looking for an excuse to justify being incel instead of figuring out how to get laid
@christiansnaturestudio6599
@christiansnaturestudio6599 2 жыл бұрын
My least favorite game in human history.
@charthers8903
@charthers8903 3 жыл бұрын
Numbers game is fun.. Or at least was fun before smartphones and cameras..
@christiansnaturestudio6599
@christiansnaturestudio6599 2 жыл бұрын
It was never fun. Doesn't sound romantic.
@charthers8903
@charthers8903 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiansnaturestudio6599 It was awesome, felt like going to the gym, sport pickup is much better than the “romantic” needy desperate style most men have..
@christiansnaturestudio6599
@christiansnaturestudio6599 2 жыл бұрын
@@charthers8903 Strongly disagree.
@christiansnaturestudio6599
@christiansnaturestudio6599 2 жыл бұрын
@@charthers8903 you're needy. Being single sucks
@doubraegbuson4359
@doubraegbuson4359 3 жыл бұрын
damn Todd is getting old
@ajw_3153
@ajw_3153 3 жыл бұрын
This guy overcomplicates everything.. guys are left feeling confused and overthinking
@christiansnaturestudio6599
@christiansnaturestudio6599 2 жыл бұрын
So does girls.
@johnp9890
@johnp9890 3 жыл бұрын
This story is just not accurate. You cannot move from "beginner" to "intermediate" or "advanced", unless there was a way to change your looks and the general impression you make on women. You change your looks by losing weight and getting in shape, dressing well, but that will not move you up an entire class. Anybody who needs to "approach" repitievely is by definition a "beginner". If you were NOT you would have been getting with girls already, instead of having to think about how to get women. So Todd is right about it not being a number game, if you have to look at it like that then no amount of numbers will help you, although you can get incredibly lucky though. But moving between the named categories is not possible.
@Sylorinnis
@Sylorinnis 3 жыл бұрын
No the point is to consistently pick up women that are already at least remotely physically attracted to you, i.e. you are above their minimum looks threshold
@ifeelhalfnaked484
@ifeelhalfnaked484 3 жыл бұрын
this black pill joke is getting old...
@By.daniieel
@By.daniieel 3 жыл бұрын
True to a point, your looks are clearly important, and the hotter you are the more receptive women will be to your approach. I've met good looking dudes who ain't getting 🐱 It's just because they don't even approach, however once they start approaching and know how to lead, they don't really need anything else, the same for all of us (with the except that as said the hotter you are the easier women will accept your invitations and more receptive will be to your escalations, so if you're an ugly ass dude, you must take care of yourself and approach more because by definition women will reject you more from the open) Work on your opening and hooking, then learn how to close, that's it.
@By.daniieel
@By.daniieel 3 жыл бұрын
@@johannesKeppler12345 as far as i can tell you live in "La puta mierda" So of course in a place where there's not really plenty of competition women will be more receptive to whatever is available However if a better looking dude with the same attitude of the guys you referred to approach those very same women, they'll move on.
@johnp9890
@johnp9890 3 жыл бұрын
@@johannesKeppler12345 hahahahaha. I was talking about the WEST. I am not talking about Chinese women in a lower income country. In south east Asia there is a whole different dynamic. And it has to do with women also looking for a guy that can provide. Did any of these "nerdy" guys have good paying jobs, like middle class? That will not get you anywhere in the west. But in SE Asia it might still work.
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