Is Arrma Big Rock 6s The Ultimate Scale RC Basher? | Deep Dive & Bash!

[@Darkspartan239]

Great review! You helped with my decision between the big rock 6s and kraton 6s EXB. I also grew up in that area so I recognize the bashing location.

[@DoRC]

Awesome glad you enjoyed! What did you end up going with?

[@jerryvolpini7987]

Great, balanced review! 👍 Very thorough and good to see you touch on everything new or improved. I like that you even made note that this is not a stunt truck (never has been). Cool to see Spektrum going to 25t splines in their servos - FINALLY (also noted that the graphics have changed, which should make it easier to differentiate them). That body is superb and should prove to be very durable. I even like the compromise of clips and hidden front mount, I think this will hold better (even though yours loosened up a few times). I love how people complain about the durability of bodies yet you give them what they want and they complain it's too heavy 🤦🏻‍♂️ I won't question Arrna's motive but the price MUST come down. This truck has tons of potential, can't wait to see future episodes!

[@DoRC]

Agreed. Looking forward to future episodes myself :-)

[@RCvapor]

Nice first look and bash, looking forward to future changes, upgrades 👍👌

[@DoRC]

Me too. I have already started :-)

[@Krunkscooters]

Easily one of the best RC channels. Keep doing what you're doing!

[@DoRC]

Thanks man Glad you enjoy!

[@SlushieJ]

Ive been excited for this truck to release but now I'm beside myself after noticing the preorder for the soon to be released, upgraded 6s EXB RTR Kraton, also $700.

[@DoRC]

Yeah the EXB is definitely an exciting release.

[@Adubbs87]

Another awesome review Ken! You got the red which I think is the best looking color for this truck! Thanks for the hinest review! I can’t wait to see what you do with this truck I’m excited!!!

[@DoRC]

Thanks man Glad you enjoyed.

[@Adubbs87]

@@DoRC of course man you make the best videos and I love the technical side and in depth look you take! Plus your honesty is a breath of fresh air from some of the other reviewers.. happy thanksgiving to you and your family!!!

[@DoRC]

@@Adubbs87 You too. I sent you an email by the way if you wouldn't mind checking it I'd appreciate it :-)

[@jagergerg9771]

Nice break down I would get it but I just got the new Outcast 8S a few months ago.

[@DoRC]

Makes sense. This is an expensive hobby :-) Thanks for watching!

[@GreatLakesRC]

I already broke a front drive cup. Could be a fluke since I haven’t seen anyone else having an issue. The old design popped out a lot, but an aftermarket hardened one fixed the issue. Will be curious to see long term how these new drive cups hold up 👍

[@DoRC]

I found a small chip in one of mine though I'm not sure if it was there from the factory or if it happened while bashing. I guess we'll see.

[@aliasangelalias]

I love it that you take a BRAND new truck and take it apart and talk about each section. I never see anybody do that on youtube. Have you done this for the KRATON 8S EXB RTR? I would love to see you tear down and discuss from head to toe. Definitely can't wait see you also Dissect the New Kraton 6S EXB RTR too! :D

[@DoRC]

I haven't. I never actually got the new one but there wouldn't really be much to say given that the new EXB RTR8S is really just the old EXB roller with electronics and slightly updated tires. They didn't make any changes to the chassis.

[@Shadows-RC]

Thanks for putting the time in to show the changes. I agree about the elephant in the room. The upside to this Big Rock model is that it's more compatible with plenty of the parts that are around right now. Am looking forward to seeing how built up you're gonna make it. Personally (if budget permitted) I'd go all-out with some Treal bulkheads (because huge input bearing) the chunkiest generic aftermarket (not hollow) suspension hinge pin blocks (so you can use stock pins) an M2C chassis, 5mm hex kit, carbon towers, and HOBBYWING's G2 Max 6 system with the 4990 (at least)

[@DoRC]

Definitely stay tuned. There will be very little left stock on this truck when it's done :-)

[@Shadows-RC]

@DoRC Sounds interesting. I will definitely be around. 👊👍👍

[@DoRC]

:)

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

Might as well just use kraton hubs and axles instead 5mm hex , might as well buy a kraton the m2 chassis and the brcc body 😂 , that’s what makes arrma cool all the parts are compatible, I go so far to say arrma takes ideas from bashers and runs with them . I had similar thoughts if I get the brcc I don’t think I’d want to get it dirty . It look cool with those GRP 5th scale wheels , light kit , little smoke 💨 some ground effects .

[@RCRoads]

The red one is my favorite. Super detailed. If they could only come up with a better way of placing the 4 capacitors. It just looks a bit pedestrian. The rest of the truck is awesome. Great job on the video.

[@DoRC]

Yeah it's a really fun truck. I think it's a bit overpriced but that's all in the eye of the purchaser:)

[@arrmamafia]

Awesome review. Love the break down

[@DoRC]

Thanks and thanks for watching!

[@fiatfixie4344]

I would say those wider outdrive cups are a must have on the front of these Arrma 6s truggies especially. I'm guessing they won't work in the V5 diffs as they use a smaller diameter shaft than the exb(( Going Full EXB would have made the price ridiculous on this but it's nice to see Arrma made the effort to correct multiple issues that the Fireteam has.

[@DoRC]

Yeah these are only going to work in EXB differentials.

[@HeavyDuty2A]

Any other body options available? I'd like to find something cheap, lightweight and simple.

[@DoRC]

Take a look at people who have made Kraton XL trucks or who have put different bodies on the Mojave or fireteam. They all run on the same chassis length so the same body should work. You'll have to do some messing around with bumpers and whatnot though as the front bumper at least is partially on the body itself. If you don't want the body you might actually be better off making an XL yourself or getting a fire team and re-bodying it.

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

Maybe this a question you can answer. What is the purpose of the capacitors attached to the esc to battery wires? And what effect will deleting these capacitors do to the performance of the rig?

[@DoRC]

The capacitors are designed to smooth out The current coming from the battery based on the fact that the ESC requires wildly varying amounts of power on millisecond time scales. Removing the external capacitors could cause instability on that input under heavy loads which might damage the ESC.

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

@DoRC So I was looking at getting a Hobbywing motor and esc combo. And I noticed no capacitors come with it. So now my question is should you add them? If so how do you know what kind you need? Looking at the Hobbywing max6 ezrun 8s 1650kv.

[@DoRC]

@@edwinlomonacofoolsend If it doesn't come with them you probably don't need them. The ESCs have input capacitors built into them the external capacitors are just additional filtering. The only time you'd want to use additional filtering is if you're really pushing in order to its limit like speed running or something like that

[@marksrc-ri9jf]

did you have any esc issues that people have been complaining about ? ie the auto brake

[@DoRC]

Yes I have a couple of videos about it.

[@RCPropaganda]

I know things will break if you push it hard for sure. I have other rigs to send it for big airs. I want this for the more fast bashing around at speed. If the price drops I will be mad lol. But that's the game. It will sweet with all m2c stuff.

[@DoRC]

Yeah I've got more than just M2C stuff to go on there. I've got some titanium and some other stuff I'm going to be messing with as well. Agree about things breaking. I've had enough vehicles from this platform to know where the weak points are so there really wasn't any point in just smashing this up for no reason. She's already started coming apart for the big upgrades :-)

[@shuster1921]

Now that's the way you review a new RC car/truck!!

[@DoRC]

Thanks man I had fun doing it!

[@m2cracing168]

Great bash and review, I like it!

[@DoRC]

Thanks. Got some big upgrades coming soon!

[@robertjackson628]

Doesn’t the 3s one do that speed out of the box ?I get this will have more power but for the money doesn’t seem worth upgrading from the smaller one

[@DoRC]

Larger vehicles have more weight, rolling resistance and frontal area so it takes more power to accelerate and achieve top speed. This truck is huge compared to the 3s and drives very different.

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

The bearings in these 6s trucks hubs never last. I always upgrade to the Hot-Racing Hubs as they use over sized bearings.

[@DoRC]

Interesting. I've never really had much trouble with them.

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

@DoRC I believe it. I've learned that results may vary. But unfortunately every 6S rig I've bought I've had bearing failures. My Fireteam the front failed halfway through the 1st battery.

[@DoRC]

@@edwinlomonacofoolsend Yeah I'm not terribly surprised. I've experienced random bearing failures on all sorts of RTR vehicles. Seems like they're all made with cheap bearings.

[@Shadows-RC]

Take em' out before running, and try packing them full with either Lucas Red & Tacky grease, or Super Lube multipurpose. They might last a lot longer, and those greases are compatible with the lithium based grease already in those bearings, so no need to clean them out before first usage.

[@DoRC]

@all-is-Grass I've tried using thick grease on these small bearings before and I've had bad luck with it. It tends to overheat them which just pushes the grease out through the seals.

[@lukerecore]

Ya dude the kraton 6s exb has aluminum diff cases. I hope that they come out with the new outcast 6s exb v2.

[@DoRC]

I suspect they will come out with a new version of every EXB vehicle. It'll pretty much just be a matter of taking these parts and sticking them on the other vehicles so it's not going to cost them very much. Unless they really think they're not going to make money on it I expect to see new versions of everything coming out.

[@L2theWcarscoffeelife]

I got 55 out of mine that was on the street Finally watching videos on this as mine is rendering Fedex delayed me a day dang it Good video

[@DoRC]

Yeah cars will always be faster on road than off-road. The speed gear will probably get you another several miles an hour. I like to test them off-road out of the box though as that's how most people are going to run it. I think 50 out of the box off-road is very respectable.

[@L2theWcarscoffeelife]

@@DoRC definitely so very respectful on the dirt its quick but I didn't put the speed.gear in 55 on the street stock. I would like to see it wheelie more it will be interesting to see what you do I am not putting a bunch of money in a new rc it serves my purpose like you said running fast and small.jumps

[@DoRC]

@L2theWcarscoffeelife Yeah I wouldn't recommend doing what I'm about to do. It's fun for the channel but not exactly practical :-)

[@mrtambourineman6107]

WhooooooooAaaahhhjj!!! That's ginormous!! Wow 😮

[@DoRC]

Yeah it's pretty big. Not as big as it's going to be though :-)

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Excellent review and recap

[@DoRC]

Thanks and thanks for watching!

[@captaincouldverc]

Great review as usual. I suspect by Monday or Tuesday next week, we'll know the lowered price. Judging by the fireteam trends, it should go on sale Friday through Monday. I'm guessing around the 450usd mark. Then Tuesday I'm guessing the price will stabilize around the 550usd. I'm purely guessing, but we'll soon see what happens.

[@DoRC]

Thanks. Yeah I don't expect the big rock to stay at $700 for too long. I'm not sure it's going to be as soon has next week but it will be soon. Thanks for watching!

[@captaincouldverc]

@@DoRC Black Friday sale is 3 days away. The fireteam on black Friday went on sale for like 299 or 399. Then the following Tuesday, was raised to its current price. This is the trend in using to predict.

[@DoRC]

@captaincouldverc Yeah but did the fire team come out only a couple weeks before Black Friday? I'm not saying it's impossible but I have a hard time imagining that Horizon would slash the price of a new model before half the people in pre-ordered even have them in their hands.

[@captaincouldverc]

@@DoRC Very valid point. I think the fireteam came out few months, maybe half a year earlier and I think I remember alot of folks hating the style of it which hurt the initial sales of it. Then black Friday sale happened and the market went nuts cause they marked it down so much. I'll still stand by prediction, even if ends up being wrong. I'm totally fine with not predicting something accurately, but my gut is still leaning towards this happening.

[@DoRC]

@@captaincouldverc Well I certainly hope so. Even at $600 I think this is a really good truck. The body is durable and it handles well and is quite a bit of fun out of the box.

[@Blimpus]

I like this truck, I want to put offroad lights on the roll bar!

[@DoRC]

There is a light set available on pre-order but it doesn't include roll bar lights. Looks like they would be pretty easy to add though.

[@Blimpus]

@@DoRC yes I saw the light kit, but it looks like the rollbar is setup for it, so maybe down the line they have one for it

[@TheSpeedrunRookie]

Great video 🤙🏽

[@DoRC]

Thanks! Got some big plans coming up!

[@EXTREMERC416]

The rear suspension aint squating the car remains level during acceleration and braking almost. Needs softer springs. Had goodluck with the kraton 6s springs on my Nero versions. Tried the fireteam ones too stiff

[@DoRC]

Yes the springs are pretty stiff right now but that's just perfect for what I have in mind :-)

[@Blimpus]

can you give me the name of the hex bits you use?

[@DoRC]

I use MIP for everything. They are really good

[@Blimpus]

@@DoRC oh man, TY,

[@DoRC]

@@Blimpus You're welcome. They're not cheap but they're very well made, fit very well and are super durable. As long as you ensure that the hex socket of the screw is clean and that the bit is seated properly you will very rarely strip out a screw.

[@breadwinnertrav199]

Nice review

[@DoRC]

Glad you enjoyed Thanks for watching :-)

[@inspiredrc]

Great review buddy👍 unfortunately there's not enough new bits to justify adding it to the fleet. The body looks awsome though. Is the body heavier than the fireteam? Its annoying they didn't add some of new upgrades on the big rock. Especially the 2 piece chassis brace. I'm happy arrma did some much needed upgrades on the new exb. Personally I was expecting 1/7th scale kraton exb with maybe wider arms (wishfull thinking...) just because the 4s kraton is very similar in size to the new exb. With the upgrades I feel the new exb is prob going to be the best basher of 2023. 🙂

[@DoRC]

Have you had the 4S and 6s next to each other? They are closer in size than the 6S and 8s but they're still a pretty decent size difference between them. I don't have a fire team body handy but if I had to guess I'd say they are pretty similar in weight with the big rock maybe being a little bit heavier.

[@fiatfixie4344]

RCdriverOnline said the Bigrock body weighs 7 ounces more than the Fireteams.

[@DoRC]

@@fiatfixie4344 good info!

[@inspiredrc]

@@fiatfixie4344 thx. I think the fireteam body is too heavy as it is. It wil be good to see how the electronics on the big rock cope with the extra weight 🤔

[@DoRC]

@inspiredrc so far so good. I'm actually going to leave the stock ESC in when I upgrade The truck to see just how much it can take.

[@Coyoterc1]

I want one ☝️ effing bills in the way 😠 so holding me back. I want to upgrade one. I loved the fireteam and this bad boy reminds of fireteam with sweet body on it. I would swap out the wheels 1st taller tire maybe some backflips tires. 500k center diff fluid. Then upgrade to exb parts when something breaks. Great video. 👍 yea I don’t understand why they would release this at 700 and then release exb kraton for same price wtf 🤣 🤷‍♂️.

[@DoRC]

I agree. This feels like the fire team just a lot better.

[@need4drift]

Nice video and review. Thank you.. New subscriber. ✌️

[@DoRC]

Awesome thanks! Plenty of new stuff coming up and some giveaways :-) Check out my laser cutter video if you want to enter the one that's currently active.

[@pfizzlemeadow]

I think they didn't add those parts because it's not called an EXB Big Rock, if it was, it would have the EXB parts. Im guessing its as expensive as it is because of the body. Im okay with it, they make vehiclea for us to have fun. Not pick apart what's wrong with each one of them. If people dont like it, dont buy it!

[@DoRC]

It's not the EXB parts that I'm concerned about. It's the parts that are going to end up on both the EXB and the V6 RTRs. Things like the tower to tower brace, servo saver, turnbuckle ends, sway bar links, and a plastic version of the center braces are almost certain to end up on the RTR vehicles. Good proof of that is that there's already a hole for the second screw on the rear brace on this big rock chassis. Not really concerned about the EXB specific parts but the vast majority of the updates on the EXB are almost certainly not going to be EXB specific.

[@Arnette2007]

Here in Europe (Germany) it should cost 800$ (799€). A bit exaggerated, isn't it? It's not available anywhere here yet. Only on preorder but nothing has happened for weeks. The price will probably not drop here for the time being. I actually wanted to order it but maybe I should wait. It will soon be 0 degrees here anyway. Greetings from Germany.

[@DoRC]

Yeah I would recommend waiting. The price might not come down for you but then again it might. Thanks for watching!

[@10krms54]

Put the new max6 g2 combo on it

[@DoRC]

It's on the list :-)

[@MrtipRC]

My lhs just called me , mines waiting for me 😮

[@DoRC]

Nice! Let me know what you think when you get it.

[@DavidFernandez-sc5ws]

Super cool body. But the truck simple isn’t worth $700. 600 maybe 620 like the TLR Typhon at most. With the Kraton exb being the same price and just being a short chassis with different body and tires. The big rock just isn’t worth it.

[@DoRC]

Well with 4X points site wide right now it is essentially $600 and I bet the base price will be coming down. Thanks for watching!

[@EXTREMERC416]

Imo they just trying to milk money from the bigrock name. Better buy a Mojave chassis get a kraton RTR and paint a body. Better than whatever this bigrock is. Lighter and better in almost every way

[@DoRC]

Maybe. This thing definitely has its appeal. It looks amazing, the body is One of the most durable that Arrma as ever made and it's actually a lot of fun to drive. I do agree that it's overpriced but the price will come down.

[@mrtambourineman6107]

Dunno about that, but I do like the new 4s Mojave A LOT!

[@feands]

Lol you just basically described the bigrock haha, it has a mojave/fire team chassis

[@DoRC]

@feands Yes it's the same chassis.

[@jeremybreeden4228]

​@@feandsfor real LMAO!! What about that Fireteam though? Oh wait, same thing! 😂

[@DroidLocks6971]

.... I Just Got This Same RC With 2 6000mah 6S Batteries & A Charger All For $676.00 Taxes & All ....

[@DoRC]

Nice!

[@DroidLocks6971]

@@DoRC very noyce

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

I don't even have to watch this video to tell you this thing is NOT the ultimate basher. I'd say the closest thing to an ultimate basher would be the new K6 EXB.

[@DoRC]

That's why I said ultimate scale basher. That's very different from ultimate basher overall. This thing is really designed to look good while still being fun. It's definitely not designed as an all-out thrasher.

[@MdRai_75]

Kraton 6s exb rocks🤘

[@DoRC]

@mdraigtr2406 Can't wait to get the new version!

[@MdRai_75]

@@DoRC yeah...me too🤘

[@Victic005]

It's an expensive truck to start. Prices will drop after slow demand, just like the Fireteam.

[@DoRC]

Agreed. I would not be surprised if this truck ends up at $600 within a few months.

[@Victic005]

@DoRC absolutely. Even then it's still expensive.

[@butchmeister80]

Surely the body will be wrecked first landing on its roof

[@DoRC]

Nope. I've landed directly on the roof probably a half a dozen times now. The body is so heavily reinforced internally that it's pretty durable.

[@franklee6301]

A few days ago you claimed it might be obsolete because of the kraton, now it's suddenly the best? 😂 make content that matters instead of just filling space. Quickly losing respect for your channel.

[@DoRC]

Did you watch the videos?