Will visa-free travel across Africa ever be possible? - What in the World podcast, BBC World Service

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@kennyking5606 2 ай бұрын

Your people from Europe created those boarders, remember the birlin conference?. We are not all fools

@fistosravenscroft6651 2 ай бұрын

@@kennyking5606 ok

@e.u7778 2 ай бұрын

Funny how they discussed all d possible problems, but not the obvious problem making sure the continent remains divided....

@KenyanGhost 2 ай бұрын

always bypass 😂

@malvinmalvin9702 2 ай бұрын

We know the real problem . Economic issues in some African countries that will then cause them to massively emigrate to economically stable countries and in the end never go back home and hence burden such countries . Eg Nigerians will flood South Africa and other countries across Africa because of economic situation in Nigeria . Even in terms of visa wise , west African countries struggle to get visas not only for African countries but even across the world . They even require transit visas for Europe just to transit through the airport . On the other side , southern Africans don’t require transit visas for Europe and easily get visa for several countries . They also have more countries with visa free arrangements with them .

@Franklyn-j8l 2 ай бұрын

Nobody is flooding s/a hiv republic. nobody want to live in shacks.

@user-ib6xn4hl7s 2 ай бұрын

South Africans or people who live in the south of africa do need visas, its called the schengen visa , no matter how much you dislike nigerians or west african just know that whyte people dislike you just as much...

@DavidOdusanya134. 2 ай бұрын

Pls stfu must y'all always talk about us? U sans are obsessed. Ur also aware nigeria visa is also one of the worlds hardest. Only west African countries can visit Nigeria without visa

@Biobele 2 ай бұрын

Spoken like a xenophobic South African 😂. You could have easily made your point without the vitriol and direct attacks but no.

@Nene..93 2 ай бұрын

@@Biobele But has he lied?

@maliksy7746 2 ай бұрын

It's called the Berlin Conference.

@besto8212 29 күн бұрын

You’re gonna keep blaming that until eternity? Africa is in African hands now.

@michaelogunronbi237 2 ай бұрын

If Nigeria, for instance had not turned out the way it currently is, borderless travel in Africa would have happened faster. Nigeria has more poor people than any other country in Africa. Nigerians majorly travel for economy reason not for leisure or pleasure. And with our huge numbers, need not mention the damage that can cause to other countries. If Nigeria was a somewhat better with needed infrastructure, vibrant economy that what it is, travel for leisure, sightseeing, etc would be common. Despite the fact that not many people want to visit Nigeria for reasons like insecurity, Nigerian visa is said to be one of the hardest to get. Why not make it visa free for all Africans? Other African countries will take a cue almost certainly.

@Franklyn-j8l 2 ай бұрын

stop speaking for 200million people just because your entire family is poor does not mean others are. No nigeria does not want other african countries in Nigeria.

@sampidia 2 ай бұрын

Obviously you are not a Nigerian. Just trying to create negative image. The conversation is about Africa as a whole. When is Nigeria the entire AFRICA continent? The AU should wake up and implement borderless travel across Africa ASAP

@michaelogunronbi237 2 ай бұрын

@@Franklyn-j8l you're probably one of those children whose parents have benefitted from the rot in the land who get triggered whenever truth hit you in the face. If my entire family is poor, I'm not alone, I'm just one of the millions of Nigerians who have been at the receiving end of your parents' misrule of the country. You forgot Nigeria is the poverty capital of the world? You must have been living in a cave for you not to know that. In a sensible country, those who plunged the country into this almost irreparable state (among which I'm suspecting your parents are), should be languishing in prison. But unfortunately, here you are even having the guts to be robbing it in the face of your parents' victims. You should be ashamed of yourself. And you're wrong, Nigeria definitely wants others in Nigeria including from African countries. If not, Tinubu and his vice will not be jetting out every now and then looking for investors everywhere including from Africa.

@michaelogunronbi237 2 ай бұрын

@@sampidia negative image? So scarcity of fuel in a major oil producing country is not negative to you? Lack of refinery is not negative to you? Lack of transparency in the oil and gas, in the NNPC and in almost every sector in Nigeria is not negative to you? Nigerian currency's worst performing status is not negative to you? Skyrocketing prices of goods isn't negative to you? Hunger and starvation ravaging the country is not negative to you? Nigerians running away in droves from their country (the Japa saga) is not negative to you? Banditry, kidnapping, terrorism, etc are not negative to you? Lack of infrastructure including electricity is not negative to you? It's stating the obvious that is creating a negative image, right? Go back to my message and afford yourself the relevance of the conversation and not just type for the sake of reply.

@Franklyn-j8l 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelogunronbi237 focus on your country. keep nigeria out of your mouth.

@lama3469 Ай бұрын

Given the economic disparities faced by the continent, this borderless rhetoric is a pie in the sky. Mass migration to stable countries like Botswana, Namibia, Kenya, Ghana, SA etc would wreak havoc.

@Noob-zi2ce 23 күн бұрын

You know nothing about Africa. There's no country worth leaving your own country for in Africa. Every single country is a mess. A citizen of Benin Republic would never leave his home and got to any of the countries you mentioned that can't even handle their own population and make their people less poor. Poverty is everywhere, Africans can easily migrate illegally to any country of choice due to corruption, but there's no financial motivation for it.

@SGOA32178 2 ай бұрын

African countries and regional blocs with stabler economies and politics are not likely to open their borders to all Africans judging from the comments, and justifiably so.

@akshayganesh4144 2 ай бұрын

Africa need more trains 🚊

@mpram5522 2 ай бұрын

Will those trains pass via Zimbabwe and Mozambique? Did you know that Zimbabweans and Mozambiqueans hade destroyed their train infrastructure and sold it as copper to Chinese? Do you know that they have destroyed and stolen 40% of South African train infrastructure? Do you think a train will pass via Congo and Mozambique without paying corruption? Stop dreaming and accept reality

@shaiawo8738 2 ай бұрын

Can’t work there will be sabotage

@Flower-ck2bs Ай бұрын

Africa need clean water and free education and Jobs close to home and family!!!

@Ufu4847 Ай бұрын

The Northern African and Southern African countries will resist.

@kabzaify Ай бұрын

Facts

@fistosravenscroft6651 2 ай бұрын

Some things are only good on paper but in reality a headache for others, South Africa, Botswana,Namibia, Seychelles and Mauritius will be unjustly flooded with migrants, this will cause civil unrest. It will not be fair. Countries must first fix their domestic issues and stabilise their economies then we can talk

@Lion72320 Ай бұрын

Thank you!!!! Could not have said it better. We can't just open all our borders like that. I am from Namibia and there is no way I would want an open border. Our country is very peaceful and stable and an influx of foreigners can easily change that.

@kabbahthoronkaExden Ай бұрын

@@fistosravenscroft6651 thank you for that list. Sierra Leone is not working for me and I think I should go out and fix myself and return back to Sierra Leone and try to fix Freetown.

@kabbahthoronkaExden Ай бұрын

@@Lion72320 I don't think allowing strangers mean destabilising your peace.

@Lion72320 Ай бұрын

@@kabbahthoronkaExden no thank you. Don't want to test it. Our people are good people and we have seen what African immigrants have done to other African countries/cities. There is a reason why xenophobia was so big in south Africa. Go to Johannesburg and see what mass immigration has done to south Africa.

@fistosravenscroft6651 Ай бұрын

@@kabbahthoronkaExden it does, I’m not going to explain myself, I trust you are smart enough to figure out all this

@brix25 Ай бұрын

In principle I'm for visa-free travel, like we have in the SADC...the problem is that criminal syndicates will exploit this. So before we even contemplate visa-free travel across the African continent, can we put in place the system to combat transnational crimes like human trafficking and cyber fraud. From a South African perspective, we have enough problems with criminals in our country and do not want to deal with more criminals who exploit our country's Bill of Rights to provide them with cover.

@benogidan Ай бұрын

I hear you on this definitely but the continent needs to step up in terms of security to combat these vices. It’s done in Europe why is Africa so difficult. For me as an African it doesn’t make sense to have gone through the whole of Europe but only visited 2 countries in Africa

@sadakapunza5679 Ай бұрын

Southern Africa will be flooded with West Africans and Mogadishu Brothers.

@Daniella162 2 ай бұрын

Borders have always existed since ancient times Till we achieve certain equal levels of development like Europian Union borderless Africa won't be achieved

@knowz2367 2 ай бұрын

True

@Allpro007 2 ай бұрын

no true , which borders were there with a world population of less than a million during ancient times times

@ThereYouAreT1 2 ай бұрын

You sound very ignorant. The Berlin Conference in 1848 was where colonizers spent 4 months in the cold winter and carefully created the borders on paper to divide Africa and conquer it more easily. Before that conference the lands in Africa were marked only by tribes and their territories. This was before colonizers arrived on the continent Colonizers split the tribes such as Hausa, fulani, bantu etc by creating borders to break the movement and communication of Africans. Colonizers knew the tribes were speaking their own language to plan attacks. So by breaking them apart with borders they confused and controlled the Africans snd the resources even till today. So, example, people of Fulani tribe in Niger were cut off from seeing other Fulanis in Burkina Faso due to the borders. Bantu tribe in Kenya were cut off from other bantu people in neighboring countries by borders. Amazig tribes in Morrocco were cut off from the fellow Amazigs in surrounding countries by borders. Ewe tribe is broken by borders from Ghana, Togo, Benin and Cameroun. They used to be one territory with one language. But Instead colonizers gave their colonies languages like English, French, etc., after creating the borders. Do you understand now? Borders=bandage. Borders= captivity!!!

@ThereYouAreT1 2 ай бұрын

@@Allpro007The Berlin Conference, held from November 15, 1884, to February 26, 1885, occurred in Europe during a time when the global population was approximately 1.5 billion people. This estimate is based on historical population data. That was the conference where colonizers met with their ink and paper and drew the borders in the form of lines on the African map!

@Allpro007 2 ай бұрын

@ , you are talking about ancient period which started 3000 BC - AD 500., not recent times 1848, read before you reply

@mydogisbailey 2 ай бұрын

Airlines will naturally offer more routes when the economy catches up. It’s simple economics. Land crossings are more about multilateral policies.

@yannick6865 Ай бұрын

Africa's size is really important to consider too, this continent is huge. The logistics and the geopolitics are not the same as Europe for example.

@brmaila6 Ай бұрын

It's mostly West Africa that advocates for borderless Africa, go to West Africa, you will find that West Africa is not being truthful in their call. West Africa wants to outsource its problems to the rest of the continent. Seychelles suffered and had to rescind the decision to open its borders. Even in this interview, it's West Africans speaking. West Africa is the least developed part of Africa. Hence advocating for borderless Africa.

@taurussian4591 2 ай бұрын

It’s necessary… Imagine what would happen to security and health security

@Toby_Escapades Ай бұрын

I remember paying $800 to fly from Tanzania to the Gambia. Outrageous!!

@mrlij6534 Ай бұрын

lol. thats crazy. and Gambia is not a place worth travelling to

@Toby_Escapades Ай бұрын

@mrlij6534 I instantly regretted it.

@nmgOblast Ай бұрын

It is outrageous

@nmgOblast Ай бұрын

@@mrlij6534Why did you think Gambia isnt a place to travel to?

@9_9_13 22 күн бұрын

@@mrlij6534That's not true, Gambia is worth more than you!

@corteztt518 2 ай бұрын

Visas are needed because some countries are just unstable and even the stable ones it’s very hard to provide services to the population. And if they become visa free, there will be mass migration of people that aren’t tax paying and it’ll be detrimental to everyone.

@sean-et4wr 2 ай бұрын

There is no stable country in Africa, especially sub Sahara Africa. Some countries just hide their internal issues.

@kofiarthur3749 Ай бұрын

@@sean-et4wrdon't mind that sick!! Even in European Union nit all the countries are safe or have strong economy but the strong ones didn't care to open the doors for all because after all they're all Whites. Cheers from Ghana 🇬🇭

@Greatma9 Ай бұрын

@@sean-et4wr Apart from Nigeria, Nigeria, Burkina Faso which are not stable all the rest are stable. So stop exposing your ignorance 😂.

@sean-et4wr Ай бұрын

@@Greatma9 you have Congo, Sudan, Ethiopia, and Zambia at war, and this clown is saying Nigeria is the unstable country. It just shows your jealousy towards Nigeria…🤣🤣🤣😜😜

@SA-xj8hc 2 ай бұрын

I’m happy with my small village in Tanzania , for me one border for Africa comes last.😊

@ewm4266 4 күн бұрын

We mzee😂 😂Hutaki tujebtujibambe huko??

@mzimhlemosiwe5047 2 ай бұрын

Asking as a South Africa: Why do so many people refuse to stay in their own country? Like, what is wrong with your own country guys? To a point of demanding that other countries change their laws, VISA laws in this case, so that they can accommodate you as a foreigner mind you? Why is it hard for africans to stay in their country and fix it?

@jamemule5326 2 ай бұрын

Cowards they are

@patriot_2022 2 ай бұрын

Asking a South African: why do you imagine everything everyone wants is to migrate and stay in your country? Why must you think like that? You don't know the value of free movement. Ask a European country why they did not say 'we will stay in our country and not have all the others enforce free movement for us'. Go ask them that question. Open your eyes man. And try to read at least. Start with the AfCFTA.

@mzimhlemosiwe5047 2 ай бұрын

@@patriot_2022 1. At no point did I say people want to come to my country, please also practise what you preach by READING ALSO, answer not just answer with emotionally charged insecurities. 2. We have had freedom of movement forever, that is why we have passports and VISAs. Even as much as we have that, people, whether you like it or not, tend to abuse those, and that happens in certain countries, especially poor ones like nigeria. 3. Comparing Africa to Europe is the dumbest thing anyone can ever do, please stop that, we are not europe, Europeans have similar economies, so its easier for them, to prove my point, the people from poor countries in europe migrate to richer countries for work cause of this "right of movement", even during BREXIT, the english were complaining that there were too many polish people in that country, cause Poland was poor that time. 4. If you actually look who complains about this "Freedom of Movement" nonsense of yours, its always poor countries with shit passports, that billionaire guy is from Nigeria, a poor country with a shit passport, you will never hear a south african complain about that, cause we actually have freedom of movement cause we go on holiday around africa and not infest other countries like nigerians do. Thank you, please grow up and tell people to sort their countries out instead of bitching about not going to other countries.

@mzimhlemosiwe5047 2 ай бұрын

@@patriot_2022 Please practise what you preach, before asking a question or making a statement please try reading, don't just respond.: 1. At no point did I say foreigners want to come to South Africa, or even insinuate that notion, that seems to be coming from your own defensive mechanism cause a south african is asking a question about foreigners. 2. Africa is not Europe, as more developed Europe is, even that European Union of theirs is not working very well because people from poorer european countries are leaving their own countries and moving to richer countries, or did you or you choose to forget BREXIT?? Not to mention some country's cities are dying cause everyone is moving to either France, Italy or Germany. It has come to a point now because their rules are soo relaxed with foreigners, Norway and Sweden are no longer the safest countries in europe, in Denmark alone 80% of crimes are committed by people who come from Morocco according to their stats. 3. It is always people who come from poorer countries who are complaining about this freedom of movement, isn't that convenient? For example, most people in this video are mainly from Nigeria, which is a poor country, the only thing it has going for itself is that it has a massive population, THAT IS IT. You will never hear of a South Africa, Kenyan, Morocan or even an Egyptian complaining about these things, cause when we travel, its not to do it illegally, but to do it legally. Also Nigeria has the WORSE passport in Africa, so its convinient for these people to complain instead of trying to fix that. 4. Diplomatic agreements already exist, that is why we have embassies in different countries around Africa. It is truly naive and misleading to say what this guy is saying. 5. In regards to your AFCFTA, a trade agreement between countries usually revolves around tariffs, it does not mean that foreigners can roam free in any country. 6. Something you may not really know, south africans do not really like foreigners cause of what they bring, let me tell you whats happening right now as we speak. Nigerians have taken over the johannesburg CBD as well as the selling of drugs around the country, there is a show about this on our tv, 90% of people caught are nigerians. There is a group of illegal mingers caught in an old mine, all of them are foreigners and they refuse to get out. In the last month almost 20 children have been killed for eating fake goods sold by pakistanis/somalis, those same pakistanis/somalis are demanding RDP housing from government so they do not have to sell from their rented houses. Imagine! But I guess you gonna call me Xenophobic.

@mzimhlemosiwe5047 2 ай бұрын

@thelifeofdanielUG 29 күн бұрын

A Ghanaian youtuber Wode Maya could give you more clues about this topic

@lozi4163 2 ай бұрын

As long as there is no free movement oof people, migration control is important to our stability

@orisenabritt 2 ай бұрын

we need it.. its osmosis.. poor will move to better places around africa instead of growing where they are so that another african may be interested to visit..

@VonRix 2 ай бұрын

Because it has all those difficulties, it receives much less tourists. So very rewarding for those that make it to Africa in times of over tourism

@Courtesy_44 2 ай бұрын

Borderless travel for what? we want food you are talking about borderless bordered travel travel in Africa is not our major issue our major issue is our finance and economy and food focus on the right topics

@michael4800 Ай бұрын

Thank you. The continent with the world’s poorest people are talking about traveling for leisure.

@htprince3729 Ай бұрын

They mean borderless South Africa

@Oldmoonstone Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@rockyr2991 2 ай бұрын

Because Africa is not well developed to allow a massive number of people to easily access the litte developed areas that are available. With a culture and mentality of people who don't want to fix their country's and would do anything to move abroad then Visa's are necessary

@nupc717 2 ай бұрын

crime and terrorism would wash the continent over

@theamerican_insider Ай бұрын

Great conservation. I am american and during my visit to North Africa, I had a great conversation with friends about an issue I noticed. I wanted to travel with some friends, but they told me they had never been to other countries in Africa.

@AhHyn Ай бұрын

We ECOWAS countries don't need Visas amongst ourselves. And true, it's very expensive. Last year, a ticket for me from Liberia to Nigeria was $1085.... I was very surprised. I'm like, Nigeria that is right here? 😂 I'm also rooting for the one currency!! But 2063 is too far.

@Cinquemendy9906 Ай бұрын

No visa needed in West Africa for Aes-Cedeao citizens. One thing we have to remember is Africa is HUGE. Let's scale things down at the level of each African bloc, it is more manageable.

@brmaila6 Ай бұрын

Borderless Africa is impossible for now, countries that work hard to hold government accountable will be pulled down by countries that institutionalized corruption and criminality. Example, deputy commissioner of Police being arrested for drug dealing, a Mayor being arrested at a roadblock with 80kg of drugs. We still have a lot to address.

@63hdhdbilwo Ай бұрын

It will spell doom.Imagin 240m liegerians waiting to invade our c0untries,full of disrespect& criminal tendecies.The biggest dilemna is bordless africa will about immigrating not doing business or visiting then go 🏡Most will end up in south part of africa & if your region you have best economy then u carry whole weight. Economically we not yet there & plus we n0t compatible.We hav countries who been fighting amongst tribes for past 30plus years.God forbid it happens

@199019852007 Ай бұрын

Interesting conversation I remember in Kenya in 2018 when I travelled from Essex to I got a visa at Narobi airport which costs £30 gave the right to go to Uganda Ethiopia Somalia and Tanzania for thirty days I think that was brilliant

@OrianJamieson28 2 ай бұрын

Loved this

@rogerslema4199 Ай бұрын

This dialogue is totally biased why Only Nigerians wants VISA free Africa?? Somalians are not at peace the same for ethiopians.. we wouldnt wasnt an influx of migrants

@mmasetemasegophatshwane8832 2 ай бұрын

Im all for visa travel. We need to protrect ourselves. Follow the requirements and you are good

@thandisilec835 Ай бұрын

Because we don’t all want al our African cities to become Lagos or Mogadishus

@AhmedIbrahim-or5dg Ай бұрын

Shut ur mouth we somalis are only interested in east africa, that's it no one in somalia cares about west africa or even central africa, some may travel to southern African countries but not alot .

@AbdulahiMohamud-wq5zm Ай бұрын

Are you crazy Mogadishu is safer most cities in Africa

@lf1496 Ай бұрын

You sound like you have the Colonizer's talking points and no Passport 😂 Haven't been to Kano State Nigeria or Nairobi eh? Your comment seems stunningly ignorant and colonized

@Mindofablacksheep Ай бұрын

Borderless travel worldwide should be the goal of humanity

@mutalebwalya6542 2 ай бұрын

The prerequisite are proper and unified economic structures in each region to prevent mass migration

@ThereYouAreT1 2 ай бұрын

Who are you to decide the prerequisites? How was it before borders were created by colonizers? In case you don't know, colonizers spent four months in the cold winter in the Berlin Conference in 1848 and carefully planned to divide Africa with borders and conquer the continent. Border were created to make it easier subdue and control African. You are just fooling yourself by inventing a new reason. Look at how hard the west is trying to disband even the Sahel with their democracy nonsense

@kabbahthoronkaExden 2 ай бұрын

I will visit Accra and Abijan this year

@preciouslouis7634 Ай бұрын

I want to visit Accra in couple weeks

@kabbahthoronkaExden Ай бұрын

@preciouslouis7634 greetings from Freetown

@TysonNgcobo-p5h Ай бұрын

You are visiting for what ? To boost their Tourism revenue ? Those two cities combined don't come close to Cape Town, South Africa which boast some 15m visitors each year, a country mentioned in this video as most anti-immigrant.

@IngramPetersJr-nr7rm Ай бұрын

@@TysonNgcobo-p5hwhat has your comment got to do with the price of fish? He chose those two cities. Why are you salty about it???

@Greatma9 Ай бұрын

@@TysonNgcobo-p5h Stop exposing your ignorance in the public and get some education. Ghana is far better than SA

@tkautzor Ай бұрын

In Europe, more and more people are in favor of ending the Schengen agreements and visa-free travel together with the problems that come with it. And the EU is about to implement ETIAS for non-EU visitors.

@isaacmoselana6427 Ай бұрын

The question people need to answer is what would a south african benefit in going to your country which you get when you come to south africa.

@SecretaryGeneral-n5l Ай бұрын

Nope, South Africans are very comfortable people. The are countless opportunities waiting to be explore in the African continent. But the truth is, it is not easy to penetrate the systems as compared to SA. To be honest SA has been one of the most opened African economies and that's just the honest truth

@elsabetbutler4940 2 ай бұрын

Great discussion Hanna about traveling within the content of Mother Africa 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@nathanngumi8467 2 ай бұрын

Interesting conversation. There are many impediments to borderless travel in Africa, such as policies, infrastructure, ongoing armed conflicts and even geography. But as an African I am convinced all these are not insurmountable. It is possible to fix these issues if all countries in the African Union work together well. After all, if the European Union can do it then why can't we?

@BonsuBigWhale 2 ай бұрын

Africa is not Europe SeverL additional EU countries may be exiting the EU. Including Germany. Folks need to focus on and fix their own countries, before any extension of invitations to join dysfunction….

@kabzaify Ай бұрын

The boaders of Botswana will remain regardless of anything.

@alvinchibaya817 Ай бұрын

It must remain like this. I hope we never ever open boarders for non SADC member states…

@sankimalu Ай бұрын

Well, there is another issue that’s not being mentioned: it’s a massive continent! These are distances measured in hundreds of miles, if not thousands of miles, when crossing between ECOWAS, EAC or SADC.

@OpinionatedNomadChannel 2 ай бұрын

Stop with this nonsensical topic - every continent has borders and visas. Africa is not a country. You don't want African countries to make money at the borders?

@haileyesuszewde 2 ай бұрын

You can travel to Ethiopia, Anyone with a valid passport from an African Union member state can get a visa on arrival.

@XY-rh3if 2 ай бұрын

Great Nation.

@preciouslouis7634 Ай бұрын

I think Kenya also has that law

@Toby_Escapades Ай бұрын

@preciouslouis7634 for Kenya you need to apply for an ETA online before travelling.

@lawalayomide4611 2 ай бұрын

Infrastructure at this stage plays a small role, because a lot of people are backpacking through Africa at the moment but visa restrictions is the major problem

@chidyb5355 Ай бұрын

God bless Africa and it’s people❤️

@IamDrDee 2 ай бұрын

Kenya visa-free is nonsensical. Countries that were visa-free, including Jamaica, now have to pay $50 (eTA) for each visit to Kenya 😂 Talk about a scam! I've been to Kenya three times since the visa-free policy was implemented, but thankfully I applied for the 5-year visa available to Americans before the changes came into effect. Hence, I don't need to apply for an ETA until 2028 when my current visa expires.

@patriot_2022 2 ай бұрын

Yeah Ruto played y'all there.

@Ttbaebae Ай бұрын

Processing visas costs money. Western countries charge fees for visas. Why shouldn’t Kenya do it?

@rabitamang7424 Ай бұрын

Thank you

@Martyr-hero-Yahya-Sinwar-RIP 2 ай бұрын

Muamar gadaffi wanted to do this and more but you murdered him. Britain also left every country hating each other by dividing boarders unjustisly.

@tkautzor Ай бұрын

Ghaddafi wanted to do this by force and then crown himself King of Africa, with all ofbyou as his slaves

@pianemova 2 ай бұрын

the fact the guest being Ghanaian and Ghana being a country that asks EVERYONE except Africans a visa is WILD! Even if I plan to visit Ghana I need to have my passport shipped to Paris because there is no Ghana embassy in my country!!!! there you go.....

@_Be_Still 2 ай бұрын

This convo is about Africans not non-Africans.

@PanfordKhalifa 2 ай бұрын

Which country are you from?

@tkautzor Ай бұрын

that guest's contribution doesn't bring anything to the debate. She has visited only 4 or 5 African countries so far, even though she could travel to 16 countries just with her ECOWAS ID card alone. She clearly has no interest in visiting places in Africa.

@Ruuduodu 2 ай бұрын

Good talk.

@katlegodidit Ай бұрын

Having different values is also a big factor. Some of the values between members of different countries are worlds apart.

@sta14rr 19 күн бұрын

When countries achieve a satisfactory level of development, then certain policies make sense. It is a straightforward answer. Removing borders will burden the most developed countries, that is the reality.

@georgemburu4177 2 ай бұрын

If each countries GDP gets to somewhere 20000 US dollars then visa free will be possible!!

@KoketsoR7 Ай бұрын

Priorities are important. Fix the country's in the continent and then. Create visa free travel

@iammarwa 2 ай бұрын

AGENDA 2063 ??? .... WHY NOT NOW

@AfricanMaverick 2 ай бұрын

Yes! NOW

@isatousarr7044 Ай бұрын

Borderless travel in Africa is an inspiring vision that has the potential to promote greater unity, economic integration, and cultural exchange across the continent. Initiatives like the African Union’s ''Single African Air Transport Market'' and the ''African Continental Free Trade Area'' (AfCFTA) are steps in the right direction, aiming to ease movement and trade between African nations. However, realizing true borderless travel faces challenges, including political will, security concerns, and varying visa policies across different countries. Visa-free travel can be safe and democratic if designed with the proper safeguards. It could foster greater mobility for citizens, reduce the barriers faced by students, entrepreneurs, and tourists, and contribute to regional economic growth. However, for such a system to work, comprehensive efforts are needed to address issues like identity verification, security, and the protection of human rights. A balance must be struck to ensure that while borders become more open, safety, accountability, and respect for individual freedoms remain a priority. In conclusion, while the goal of borderless travel in Africa is achievable, it requires ongoing cooperation, effective governance, and a commitment to creating a system that is both secure and equitable for all citizens.

@63hdhdbilwo Ай бұрын

It's good on paper but it will never work

@surambaya 2 ай бұрын

We don't need it to be borderless, at least not at first. We can start with being visa-less for all Africans across all African countries. Trade happens best when people can travel unhindered. This is one of the factors that makes the 50 states known as the USA so powerful and successful. Once people can move, then capital needs to be unhindered. Start with double-taxation agreements across all African countries, as Mauritius has endeavored to do. Suddenly, I don't have to pay taxes on income twice and can therefore deploy more capital to employ more people and grow my enterprise. I don't have to face capital and forex restrictions such as we have in South Africa, Ethiopia and a bunch of other countries. Next, make it easy for me to employ any African anywhere in Africa without the prohibitive work visas and permits that only give rise to endless corruption. Finally, take away unnecessary tariffs and trade barriers across Africa. Allow for goods manufactured in different countries to access any markets they need to access across the continent. Once capital, labor, and goods can move unhindered across the continent, then we have the foundation for an amazing continental economy in the near future.

@ThereYouAreT1 2 ай бұрын

You used Chat Gpt to write this comment. Lol 😂😂😂

@surambaya 2 ай бұрын

@@ThereYouAreT1 Thank you for the "compliment". I do this (strategy, problem-solving) for a living and have been doing it long enough that ChatGPT probably learns from all the papers and presentations I have put out in the past. I don't need it to write. It needs me to learn.

@Eric-dj1ko 2 ай бұрын

bruh kenya is not visa free, it's only for east African countries

@malvinmalvin9702 2 ай бұрын

It is Visa free bro. However they introduced electronic travel authorization that you just fill in online before you go and usually takes few hours to get approval through email . And almost everyone gets approved because it’s not visa per se.

@Eric-dj1ko 2 ай бұрын

@@malvinmalvin9702 bro visa free and ETA is different. ETA screen out visitors, if you don't book a hotel eta will be denied. visa free means visa freem you just book a flight that's it, like east africans don't need an eta to visit any east Africa country , you just go

@jayo3074 2 ай бұрын

Then it's visa free lol

@Eric-dj1ko 2 ай бұрын

@@jayo3074 do you know eta is visa too?

@Frank-Bediko62 2 ай бұрын

Ghana is visa free for some countries like South Africa and Ghana.

@sadakapunza5679 Ай бұрын

ECOWAS brothers/sisters will migrate to SADC countries in no time...

@jackoenyegue Ай бұрын

Africa already has 4 main visa free areas: the Westerners, the centrals, the Northerners I think the eastern too.. however, citizens of those areas can't really interchange... something is holding it back when if Africans could travel free on the land and with proper marketing, none of us would need to go abroad any longer.. we have everything ..

@shaiawo8738 2 ай бұрын

We don’t pick and choose ourselves we have the perception that there is no beauty in Africa the ‘Japa’ mentality hasn’t poisoned the average African. If you can’t reeducate us to understand Africa is rich in resources and labour and we build more from the ground up. We wouldn’t keep trying to escape if we did more business between ourselves without outside influences and help we would have built our own transportation infrastructure.

@PLACESNONDESCRIPT Ай бұрын

Africa needs transcontinental rail system if we had a train that cud go from west Africa to East African community it’ll make it easy to move around

@TheMelMan Ай бұрын

I have a topic for you. Why does Britain need a different visa from the SHENGEN visa for travellers to enter the country?

@papaniiampah1801 21 күн бұрын

Ghanaians have the clearest English accent in Africa

@ewm4266 4 күн бұрын

It's not a fact

@jonanasingwirek3585 2 ай бұрын

I wonder how BBC gets the audacity to engage in such topics...

@IvanildoRoseno-x1e 2 ай бұрын

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@JimmyOcen-jr3xm 2 ай бұрын

You are just talking about Africa and yet you Eroupen are the one who are dividing African you don't want African to come together and why don't you first fixed the movement of African to eroup why you don't want??? But you are you more concern about Africa ???

@jayo3074 2 ай бұрын

Keep quiet

@JimmyOcen-jr3xm 2 ай бұрын

@jayo3074 I'm not going to keep quiet you the truth is also biter 😂

@bonggypsygirl 2 ай бұрын

Beautiful vocal

@whereismissije1422 2 ай бұрын

I didn't find it that tricky. What I think should be a question is why Africans have many hurdles to jump to get visas to go to countries outside of Africa, especially if some of the countries are fellow 'Commonwealth' nations. I'm genuinely confused by this.

@DipendraRokka-kt1dt 2 ай бұрын

From nepal🇳🇵🇳🇵❤

@RisingAfrica-v1q Ай бұрын

Dear BBC am Enos a kenyan and asking if its OK with you that i may share your content about Africa on my youtube channel-Rising Africa

@elhaloumielmahdi3726 2 ай бұрын

Please update your profile picture to reflect my country accurately. There is only one country, Morocco, which should be represented by a single flag, not two. Thank you!

@jayo3074 2 ай бұрын

No one cares

@elhaloumielmahdi3726 2 ай бұрын

@@jayo3074 It's none of your business.

@jayo3074 2 ай бұрын

@@elhaloumielmahdi3726 same to you. Stop telling people what they should do on their platform

@elhaloumielmahdi3726 2 ай бұрын

@@jayo3074 I simply told them the truth.

@jayo3074 2 ай бұрын

@@elhaloumielmahdi3726 You were being very arrogant. It was an honest mistake

@BatsiraiMusuka 2 ай бұрын

Wildly profitable since 1884.

@alexfk9912 Ай бұрын

I sure am it will not be going to happen due to many circumstances like External pressure, Economic situations, security, migration etc.

@DrTopp 2 ай бұрын

Immigration services in many african countries need to level up. Just to start with!

@Worldaffairslover 2 ай бұрын

There’s already borderless travel for Kenya and Uganda, they let anyone walk right in

@NgasaMaduhu 2 ай бұрын

It's not working in South Africa and you think it'll work in countries full of tribalism 😅

@patriot_2022 2 ай бұрын

@@NgasaMaduhu Wow..ignorance right there. You should look into these countries to see what "tribalism" means or how it plays out. Very different from what you think. You imagine people hate each other here like some of you that attack each other in South Africa because they have this or that identity. What is called 'tribalism' in Kenya (and it's almost non-existent in Uganda now), only plays out in politics -during elections. But not in the general society. In normal life, no one cares what tribe you are from. No one even cares what country you are from. Kenya and Uganda have completely borderless travel.

@NgasaMaduhu 2 ай бұрын

@@patriot_2022 It does not work mate plus we can't keep pretending that we like each other while we all know we hate each other.

@NgasaMaduhu 2 ай бұрын

@@patriot_2022 just days ago y'all were screaming at the somali for waving their flag in Kenya calling them name's and you think it'll work when Kenyans start flooding in Tanzanian farms in the name of one East African you'll only make Tanzanians envy and jealousy,we already have Burundians in Tanzania blaming our government for the failures of their government can you believe that this kind of things only sound good in paper but our societies have not yet matured to keep up with that plan.

@patriot_2022 2 ай бұрын

@@NgasaMaduhu We must. Because even if you are free in our country, you are required to show utmost respect. Not imagery of how different/unique/conquering you are. Are Somalians the only EAC nationality in Kenya? Who else ever disrespected us like that? We have Congolese in Kenya, Burundians, Tanzanians, Ugandans, and South Sudanese...in huge numbers. Yet none of them ever did those reckless flag matches. Unacceptable. Our country is not the place they come to express their nationalism on. And it is not like it was a protest against something in their country, or a celebration of an event over there. Just a random act seemingly aimed at us. Even us we never do that in foreign lands. It is not hate here. But there is acceptable and unacceptable behaviour. Nationals of Somalia must behave properly like all the other EAC nationals when in Kenya. And a correction: Kenyans haven't and won't flood Tanzanian farms. Unless if it is to buy things to bring into Kenya. Doesn't Tanzania have laws on farm ownership?? Why are you misunderstanding things? This is not to say you must treat everyone like a citizen. There still has to be laws that apply only to citizens. Like in Kenya you can't own land unless you are Kenyan. But everyone can do business. Tanzania gives farms to its citizens. Si from there Kenyans can partner with them and move things faster and easier? That is what being borderless is about.

@peterroberts2952 Ай бұрын

Until the colonial hold is broken, it will not happen. The good news is the multipolar world is working towards that goal. We'll get there.

@iammukoja Ай бұрын

Kenya is NOT visa free for all africans, infact they imposed visas for all save EAC and some SADC countries

@Rubberband052 Ай бұрын

Since when is Alico Dangote Africa's second richest?

@northofeden1802 Ай бұрын

Because western interests think Africa is their property and have engineered and influenced policies wherein Africans are compartmentalized on their own continent lest the poor of one regions affect the economy of wealthier regions. These are remnants of colonial structures and capitalistic pursuits.

@hkisnotchina 2 ай бұрын

Travel hack: Slip some money in your passport. You travel visa free to most countries in Africa.

@Àdémíbọ̀_joshua 2 ай бұрын

It can be if there is a WILL.

@MrNelson231 18 күн бұрын

Why is this an issues for the bbc?

@reed.abdurrahman6748 2 ай бұрын

The answer is simple tho

@hsystem223 2 ай бұрын

useless discussion

@gillydragon10 2 ай бұрын

This is nuts 😢

@ayankunleakanbi1650 Ай бұрын

U said Dangote is Africa's 2nd richest man. Factually, Dangote is Africa's richest man. So, as some of U try not to give Nigeria the credits that she deserves, to whom have U 'awarded' the 'title' of the richest man in Africa? Some White guy somewhere?

@SamsonOkwiri254 2 ай бұрын

When BABA RAILA ODINGA becomes the AU CHAIRMAN, he will make Africans country free visas, but others must apply for visas to enter our country, and that's it.

@annefalola9278 2 ай бұрын

Even within the block, foreigners have to obtain visas for each country - so going from Ghana to Nigeria by land means getting two additional visas for Benin and Togo for non West Africans - it is RIDICULOUS if we want economy progress for the ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF WEST AFRICA - ECOWAS😢 Can’t we make travel easier at least for people to do business in our region?

@tkautzor Ай бұрын

Foreigners can get visas for various groups of countries within ECOWAS.

@toniemunene Ай бұрын

....a guy called Aliko Dangote.. wow😂

@peterdauda3351 Ай бұрын

What is the point of having borders in Africa which are so porous anyway.

@XY-rh3if 2 ай бұрын

Kenyan's visa on arrival thing is a complete technical and ease of traveling into Kenyan disaster. Try applying for the online electronic permit and you're always faced with website technigal glitch. Goodluck with first trying to obtain an online electronic travel authorization on the government agency responsible for the travel authorization permit. Basic common sense should have dictated to Western Puppet or Ruto that if he really wanted to encourage easy tourism and easy access for Africans into Kenya, he should have made it possible for tourists, particular people of African descent to just fly into the country with their passport without having to go through the barely functional online electronic travel authorization nonsense, just as Rwanda does it.

@patriot_2022 2 ай бұрын

Our guy is quick to do something dramatic without thinking it through. That is what he originally intended but Kenyans rejected. We feared a mass influx of all types of people that could destabilise our society, bring a lot more crime if people just get in and out as they wish and can't be followed in case, and add pressure to public services that are not doing very well even. Everyone opposed the idea even in his government. So they had to say, okay we won't just let everyone in we have to deter criminals and mass migration (imagined). Later after announcing the policy is when they said we will have an ETA -to calm down Kenyans. But now they should just do it right. I hear travellers say it was easier when there was the regular visa they get on arrival than now.

@leroydanny4072 Ай бұрын

This year the number of visitors coming to Kenya increased

@kabbahthoronkaExden 2 ай бұрын

I am looking for the African digital nomads.