Is Buying Used Gear a TRAP? (Daiwa Tatula 70 Issues)

[@IRemnantsI]

Bought my first Daiwa (TTU100HSL) basically from watching your videos. I am up in Canada and baitcasters are not all that common, so I watched a bunch of your videos before spending the money. Mine was dry out of the box aswell, but I bought oil thanks to you mentioning it in your past videos. Since then I have bought 2 other Reels and 1 was dry also and the other was good, and it came with oil too. Maintence just ads a bit more fun to the hobby for me, keep up the informative videos!

[@DEBOSFishing]

MAN! They have to get their crap together. No reason these should all be dry!

[@BassinWithBigMalone]

5:17 That was very nice of you Debo. Touched BigMalones heart right there!!! I don't care what anyone says, your a good dude! I've bought some used combos off marketplace, no issues. Sometimes you just draw the short stick.

[@littlerich2644]

Malone You are correct. Debo is man of character. It made me smile too

[@DEBOSFishing]

I'm not always nice...in this instance I was thought LOL

[@KEZFishing]

Debo you’re a stand up guy. Most ppl would have paid the 100 and ran

[@DEBOSFishing]

It was actually three reels for $100...so I'm like nah...you deserve more. She was super nice too.

[@josephtakach6073]

I buy used fishing gear quite a bit. I haven't had many problems. I did buy a new 13 fishing baitcaster 3 months ago . It scratched from day one. I send back the reel and they fixed the problem. Great customer service. Fish on Debo catch you Saturday night.

[@muskyvictim]

Thanks Debo and greetings from Northern Michigan. Indeed , some of new Daiwas come dry out of box . I gotta say though that after adding some oil to the spool bearings they're as smooth as butter . In fact and on a side note , the Steez HLC - a reel I was about to get rid of due to wild nature horrid backlashes is now one of my preferred , with the Jackall Raico it flies 2 miles NO BACKLASH. I LITERALLY CAST IT HUNDREDS OF TIMES WITH NO BACKLASH . BREAKS ON 12 . THE LURE IS 1.3 ounce . I'm keeping the Steez , MB madbull and raico setup permanently 😂. Oh , the ANTARES dcs and Excense DC are still my favorite though

[@redbeard6606]

Really like the tear down of the real. I haven’t broke down and tried doing a tear down yet… thanks for showing us the inner workings

[@CapnDanTreasures]

It's not that hard to do, I've been doing mine for years... Just remember to line up the parts in the order that they come off, so you can reverse the order to get it back together.

[@rvfishingyet]

I have found a few Daiwa Tats (new) a bit thirsty out of the box. I now do that grease on the end of that spool rod and it seems to do the trick based on a few of your videos. Like you, I trust Daiwa (and Shimano) almost universally! Thanks as always for the video Devon!

[@DEBOSFishing]

Interesting! I'm shocked so many others are getting dry reels!

[@nathandenardis3999]

Just want to let you know that your fishing channel is one the most informative channels out there. I’ve followed you since you were at 5000 subscribers and will follow you until you decide to end the channel . Great video as always!!

[@DEBOSFishing]

I appreciate that more than you know 👊👊👊

[@CapnDanTreasures]

Hey Debo, new subscriber here... I have sold a few rods and reels in my lifetime. I always make sure to let the buyer know if there is anything wrong with everything I sell up front, so there aren't any problems down the road. I bought a used St Croix Legend Tournament rod from a guy in Oklahoma a couple years ago. I really like it, it's a great rod. I've been using Daiwa reels since the 70's when I was just a young lad. Over the past 6 years, I've amassed a dozen Bass rods and paired them all with different variations of the Tatula Baitcasting Reel. I absolutely Love the Tatula's, they are great reels. I recently did my annual, semi-annual maintenance on them. It all depends on how much time I get to actually use them during the year. I cleaned them all up and re greased, oiled, and lubed. They are all good to go now for whenever Springtime decides to show up here in southeastern lower Michigan that is. Keep the videos coming. Tight lines...

[@ChrisMiller-bu8yo]

Great topic and video, four of my 5 bait casters are used reels. They all got years of use prior to me getting them and i have used them for 5 or 6 years now without issue. Like you mentioned at some point as with all "used" or "previous owned"anything you will get a "lemon".

[@DEBOSFishing]

Right, just part of the process! I enjoy fixing them so it's all good!

[@robertbrandywine]

I bought two Shimano 2015 Metanium DCs for $200 including shipping from Japan and sales tax. I sent them off to Shimano for servicing and they charged $43.50 per reel. Still way ahead of the new price. Yeah, they have some scrapes and chips, but so do reels I bought new after 3 months of use.

[@DEBOSFishing]

That's a fair deal!

[@dangermonkey7779]

A couple years ago I bought a penn battle 2 spinning reel on eBay. The description was a little vague but I took a chance on it. It arrived so crusted with salt it was crunchy when reeling. I was able to get some parts and fix it up and the seller was cool about it and refunded me the cost of those parts but the reel has never been fully smooth although it certainly works. Going forward I would probably take a pass on anything that doesn't have a very detailed description of the condition.

[@ErbsSpices]

I found a Bantam Curado CU-200, for $5 at a garage sale last month and it seems like it's been used maybe once. I couldn't believe it.

[@DEBOSFishing]

Dang! Good grab!

[@jamesp2674]

Great points! I guess the more you clean them, the easier it gets! I gotta get to it then!

[@funkymojo111]

I oil the bearings with a silicon oil and grease the shaft with waterproof grease. I only buy new reels but used rods are easier to inspect and see defects. I have sold my reels but go the extra distance: I keep the og boxes and save the receipts. None of mine have ceramic bearings.

[@adamspaulding8507]

Got some sand in one of my reels a couple weeks ago and used your video to break down my lews reel. So thanks and keep them coming.

[@DEBOSFishing]

Great to hear it could help!

[@davidrauschenbach6871]

Thanks for ripping into that Daiwa. Cinderella toothbrush for cleaning = non dink feesh! Thanks Debo! Put that type of bearing on my abu stx, made it crazy easier to cast but sounded louder. I’ll take the slightly louder sound to improve casting pleasure especially on my abu stx. Hope family and you have a great turkey day!

[@DEBOSFishing]

Have a good Thanksgiving!

[@davidwilliams1805]

Thanks Debo for some good information! You rock buddy! Hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving!!

[@DEBOSFishing]

Thank you! You too!

[@Basspundit]

I have a lot of rods and reels, most of them won on eBay auctions over the past 20 years. I think I've only had one reel that crapped out on me quickly. The rest lasted a least a season of hard use. Most reels give me many seasons of hard use.

[@NStone90]

I have no problem buying something used, but it does help seeing them first as it's a good time to see defects which could help lower the price. I've bought a few pew pews used and have had no issues with them so a piece of fishing gear is nothing.

[@treverwagner]

I have bought a couple used reels from American Legacy and they were great and no issues.

[@pacman_17]

Hopefully you find the cause of the ticking in the Tatula 70. Put light pressure on the spool see if you can replicate the ticking or noise. This way you can diagnose the problem at home. If the reel sounds normal when you make as cast but makes a ticking sound when you retrieve. Check that pinion bearing like you would a spool bearing. Check the rotation with some pressure. It should feel smooth.

[@farrzmd3038]

The used market is where I look for reels I want to try that are above my budget. Example: I picked up a used curado 150 mgl for $142. The reel had one blemish and functions awesome. Now I know the curado is a reel worth saving for and am looking forward to buying a new one. ….. one of my first baitcasters made a sound like that after the drag slipped. After the drag slipped, any time I reeled the reel sounded just like your daiwa.

[@DEBOSFishing]

Hmmm yeah this one is stumping me.

[@jeremykeast1404]

I had the same issue when I took my tatula apart to clean it. It was the plate that holds the pinion bearing in. I loosened it and moved it a little with the screws still in and it fixed the sound. When I loosened it I noticed it had a little play to where I could move it and mine was of center and hitting somehow but it worked so you can try that.

[@DEBOSFishing]

Ohhh! Ok, I'll look at this!

[@jimmcculloch5825]

I agree with you about American Legacy. I bought a used reel from them which was in excellent shape. However, trying to cast with it for a while, I found I could not use it because of the shape of my thumb. I contacted them to trade in this reel for something I could use. Instead, they gave me a full refund. Great people.

[@DEBOSFishing]

Thanks for sharing! I'm glad they took care of you!

[@jimmcculloch5825]

Thank you for the great authentic videos. Always helpful.@@DEBOSFishing

[@chrisrus53]

Be sure to check the rotary girder! It could need recombobulated. Used gear always scares me but have gotten lucky with a few items. Anxious to see what the remedy ends up being.

[@DEBOSFishing]

I checked the blinker fluid on it...that wasn't the problem...😅

[@clyderussell6005]

I usually check garage/yard sales you can run across some fantastic finds.

[@austinhall485]

Looking forward to the reel breakfown videos, i got sand in my curado i think and it feels kinda grainy when i reel and im absolutely terrified to touch a single screw.

[@DEBOSFishing]

I'd clean that baby asap! Sand can really mess up a reel.

[@CapnDanTreasures]

I'm sure there is a video on KZbin of how to do maintenance on the reel you have. You'll be fine...

[@Dj.fishing084]

I've only ever owned a diawa fuego (on hell of a funky sounding awsome reel) but I must say I've never seen a beairing around a pinion gear

[@Dj.fishing084]

Can we get a maintenance video for the daiwa fuego bait casting real? Idk about everyone else but I need that. And I've had better luck following your videos for real maintenance than anyone else💯

[@DEBOSFishing]

Yep, going to be very similar to this one!

[@stevesmith7164]

Great video Debo, good advice thanks👍

[@losingbigfish9473]

Great video can’t wait for the next one. Keep them coming.

[@kevingrandke6075]

I like buying used gear if i can get away with it but sometimes its cheaper in the long run to buy it new. I have a Modus R2 from 13 fishing bought it new... used was $5 less than new... I picked up a Abu Garcia Vengeance 6'9" rod i told you about a few years ago for $25.. a week later broke the tip and its now a 6'6" and that Black Max baitcaster $15 used ... i had to clean the snot out of it and do a little polising to the case but the thing sings like its new.

[@stevethompson3365]

I have purchased used gear from both American Legacy & Facebook Marketplace with pretty good results. The 2 Tatula’s I have bought from American Legacy (coincidentally both the older & newer Tatula 100) have been fine, but a nearly new Tatula CT I bought off FB was pretty dry. Overall I think if you do your homework or buy from a reputable retailer you usually get the best results (American Legacy has awesome customer service).

[@stevethompson3365]

Thanks also Debo for the Curado M video, took advantage of a great deal from American Legacy on the Curado K & im so far very pleased. Next one might be an M.

[@DEBOSFishing]

Agreed! Buy from a reputable spot!

[@DEBOSFishing]

​@@stevethompson3365awesome! Hope you enjoy it!

[@EddieLindsay681]

I think it’s definitely gear noise, they are not meshing right, could be a bad bearing not lining the gears up or just bad damaged gears. Gear sets don’t cost much but check the bearings first for slop.

[@nate0448]

I'm to the point where I won't buy new rods unless they have crazy good deals. Every used rod I buy at ALF is either very slightly used, or still in packaging. I've only bought two reels from them and they were both perfectly fine as well. I am not a penny pincher, but if I can buy basically brand new rods for up tp 40% off sometimes I am down.

[@DEBOSFishing]

Totally agree, I'm down to get good stuff at a better price. Even if it's "slightly" used. I'm going to use it anyway so it's not going to stay NEW lol

[@tims_always_fishing7117]

I've been really lucky with all my used gear purchases from ALF. Hell, I bought a "used" zodias spinning rod, and it came with tags and original bag!!

[@DEBOSFishing]

I had one that way too. I think they buy overstock from trade shows and can't sell as "new" even with tags!

[@tims_always_fishing7117]

@DEBOSFishing ya I spoke on the phone with em and they offered me 20% new items because they didn't have any used. ALF is the best!! Debo what do you think of the new Intenza? Im thinking a Christmas gift for myself!!

[@tims_always_fishing7117]

@@DEBOSFishing I paid 150$ for it ! 😆

[@littlerich2644]

Too funny with the Shimano grease comment 🤣

[@Whitehalo117]

It's concerning it sounds so rough when you're reeling it in. I have ceramics in an SLX on the spool and under the drive shaft and it does not make that noise. Maybe the anti-reverse clutch is messed up? My Curado DC was making that noise before the anti-reverse clutch blew up on a 4lber.

[@backyardslingshots5631]

Also so far, only use tell I’ve gotten was on Facebook market place, that was a shimano slx xt.

[@leehowell4258]

Wonder if that’s a Daiwa thing. My Coastal SV sounds very similar. Always has straight out of the box and I’m religious about rinsing it when used in saltwater and routine maintenance. Even my Daiwa Ballistic has developed a rough sound around the spool which is irritating considering how much that reel costs! My Shimano SLX is as smooth as the day I got it. Same with my Stradic. It’s making me into a Shimano fan over Daiwa…

[@timleng4404]

I noticed you were using Kistler Jerkbait rod. How do you like that? I like my Helium MH and thinking of adding that jerk bait rod. Thanks

[@DEBOSFishing]

Love that jerkbait rod!

[@kurtgleason5729]

Great info and go Hawkeyes! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

[@DEBOSFishing]

Same to you!

[@Davo2233]

Is that a reverse image? Otherwise that’s absolutely not a left handed reel. I have 100 of them and need 10 of them swapped to left handed reels. As I have gotten older (52) I have had some neurological problems and I have a hard time fishing a bait that requires me to really manipulate the lure, like Alabama shaking a swim jig or walking a frog or a vixen/spook, jerk bait….. I also need the rod in my right hand when i need to set the hook real hard. I fished with traditional spinning gear until I was 25. Always having the rod in my right hand. My coordination is failing me. I’m going to look for some good, used left hand reels.

[@ukstorm2727]

Bought a new JDM Zillion and had the same clicking noise when reeling it , doesn't seem to affect the performance but sure is annoying, had the same issue with a Tatula CT 100

[@DEBOSFishing]

Damn, that's not good to hear. Love my Daiwas but wonder if there are QC issues?

[@SimonC82686]

I've bought a few used slx xt's and a slx dc off ebay in the past and they felt like new after a little maintenance. One of my newer tatula sv's has also developed a slight ticking in it, taken it apart and cleaned it multiple times and still can't narrow down the issue

[@DEBOSFishing]

Hmmm, sounds like the same deal as mine.

[@SimonC82686]

@@DEBOSFishing It turned out to be the pinion gear for me. I don't know if it's from the oversized handles I put on mine or from just trying to cast to hard but I've had the clutch or whatever re-engage on me mid cast a few times and I guess it just messed up the pinion gear. You can hardly tell by inspecting it but I could feel some sharp spots on it that were warped just the tiniest bit where it meets the pin of the spool. Put a new pinion gear in and it was back to being smooth and quite. The previous owner of yours might have messed up the pinion gear. That's the only thing I don't like about tatula's, the lack of pinion support

[@jasonwilson6212]

Thanks for the info debo always lik you videbos

[@backyardslingshots5631]

If you get tired of chasing that playing card in the spokes Daiwa reel, I’d gladly give it a home. I’ve yet to try a Daiwa baitcaster. None of the local stores have them. Just really abu and lews around me.

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

Man I’ve had 2 different Daiwa’s including a Steez A that half way engaged with the thumb bar as i was casting. It made a god awful grinding noise. Then after that situation both reels continually make a slight grind sound under reelin, just like this Tatula 70. Still haven’t found what was damaged

[@DEBOSFishing]

Dang, that's no good! I'm going to find the issue on this dang thing LOL

[@stephenbeaver2035]

I have a rod I bought used. Reels have too many moving parts. I worry about the longevity of new reels.

[@victorsimonsen921]

little weary about buying used reels if they are a great deal it makes it easier. have bought a few and passed on some also. buy a lot of used baits

[@vernervanschalkwyk2280]

I have to say that i do not buy any secondhand fishing reels purely because i have 10 "thumbs". I am technologically handicapped, thus i rather stick to teaching and my best friend fixing and servicing my reels.

[@ronaldclark1023]

I believe the noise is the ceramic bearings

[@mackflanagan7002]

My Curado 150 MGL started sounding just like that. Figure it out for me!

[@DEBOSFishing]

On the cast or retrieve?

[@RobertStankiewicz-n6i]

I have a diawa that did the same thing I grease down everything like you magically went away 2 years later

[@nickels317]

I bought a curado k used from American legacy, the thumb bar was broke, I returned it right away, they gave me my money back no hassle, customer service was great, but I probably wouldn’t by used gear again.

[@tims_always_fishing7117]

I've bought an entire used arsenal from American legacy and haven't had an issue yet

[@DEBOSFishing]

That's awesome to hear that they did that!

[@johnnydrury2426]

I have two Tatula 150s that I bought about a month apart brand new. One of them sounds just like that and one doesn’t. The noise started on the second trip and it is getting worse so I stopped using it.

[@DEBOSFishing]

Man, that's no good. Daiwa needs to get their stuff together!

[@TTangOutdoors]

You just got a tatula 70 with a drag clicker!!🤣

[@johnbgoode3]

If you don’t have the schematics, how do you determine which size of bearings to buy?

[@robertbrandywine]

Measures the one you took out?

[@DEBOSFishing]

Yep measure or look online. Places will sell packs based on the reel you have

[@joshlanham4885]

I recently bought a used reel and occasionally it clunks after engaging the reel 🤷‍♂️

[@traviswilborn7272]

I used to do that for a while. But I got burned one too many times

[@timtweet8149]

What do ya think of the Roro bearings?

[@DEBOSFishing]

Haven't heard of or used those.

[@nickcosta88]

How are the reels I sold u a couple years back?

[@DEBOSFishing]

Awesome! Dizzle stole one too LOL

[@daverattigan8804]

All my reels and most of my rods are used including my little boat

[@Arabian_Gulf_Angler]

I might buy a used rod but would never buy a used reel.. these things are consumables!

[@benwilkey2060]

I’m sure you can get some great deals, but I have to admit I have some trepidation about buying used gear! 😬

[@loaf21]

I 1st read your title as '70 issues' instead of 'Daiwa Tatula 70' I'm not real bright...😄

[@DEBOSFishing]

I have at least 70 issues in my personal life LOL

[@brucenichols9206]

99.9% of my gear including lures and soft plastics have been off of market place I've made 7+ hour round trips to get gear I forgot to mention give the brake cup a full turn and let go of it so it retracts fast a friend had a cup sitting offset in the side plate also check the Pawl same friend had a fuego he never serviced On a side note I've gone fishing and became friends with four people off of market place

[@RyanSmith-fb8rf]

Those bearings looked swapped out. They could be cheap bearings

[@910Volcomsnow]

Daiwa 70 after shimano grease…. “Finally I am able to cast like a shimano!”

[@DEBOSFishing]

Hahahahahah

[@glennschramm7255]

yes and knock on wood no problems so fair, bunches of daiwa bait casters and spinning reels

[@andyleonard7388]

Might be the joints in your hand ticking because you are using the wrong hand reel LOL!

[@blind_eye_fishing]

I think you have a chip in one of the actual ceramic balls in the bearings but not 100% sure.

[@DEBOSFishing]

Hmm, never thought of that! Maybe I'll do a swap!

[@blind_eye_fishing]

​@@DEBOSFishingit's very much a possibility. I've heard same noises from that issue before. I'd give that a try before diving in to deep on the reel lol. Next would be the main drive bearing imo.

[@blind_eye_fishing]

​@@DEBOSFishingOK just listened to it again I think I'd replace all the bearings on the spool and main drive gear that's around the spool shaft. It's one or more of those bearings I believe.

[@clintskala26]

I have the solution for the noisy daiwa it’s called shimano! 😁

[@DEBOSFishing]

Hahahahaha

[@NedRigNerd]

I don't believe in selling my used gear. I believe in giving it away to the local kids or elders. Who want to fish but can't afford to buy fishing gear. Like if you can afford to constantly buy new gear. Then giving it away for free to those who can't afford it, is not really a big deal. And you make someone else happy.

[@fshn4lmt493]

Ceramic bearings all sound like that, that is the only downside to them.

[@MrFishBlood]

Spiderman toothbrush WILL ruin your reel... Ask me how I know...

[@DEBOSFishing]

Uh oh!

[@law1831]

Daiwa reels are noisy for whatever reason

[@rubenakacoolerlid2314]

So the trick is buy used gear fix the reel and you catch bigger fish Genius 😅