Is Civilization: Beyond Earth the Best Civ Game?

the answer may shock and surprise you.
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[@AChamber]

There are no winners when we play games with Vale, only losers.

[@ariustemod8481]

I don't know the shire and its mind flower at least got a victory screen

[@алексейвышкин]

Vale not every time plays with you and he gets ad revenue. So there is a winner

[@livedandletdie]

There are no winners when you play Beyond Earth, only losers, Valefisk has nothing to do with it in this case. The game is torturous on it's own... Vale has nothing on this game.

[@алексейвышкин]

@@livedandletdie sadism is a win by itself

[@xhshdd7113]

I was about to say the viewers win, but no

[@thespiffingbrit]

*Ok now try speed running the game.* I hear the speedruning community of beyond earth is great this time of year

[@owomen5863]

The spiffing brit comments with no reply ?

[@YerpyMoose]

Speedrunning, or marathon with a five second turn timer?

[@g_raffthearchlich]

Only four comments now?

[@pochiluis0570]

You may said… they are “beyond earth”

[@benhamster]

The sixth comment is made. Hail Yorkshire tea.

[@ariustemod8481]

I think what makes this experience even more painful is how much of the tech tree went unused, tons of units and buildings non of us made because we didn't want to be there and the victory condition is easily rushable

[@cybersaiyan9596]

the first time playing the game, i was super confused on the victory conditions, got super bored, and just quit.

[@RazorsharpLT]

@@cybersaiyan9596 Yeah, i actually played it first time multiplayer We got bored really quick, quit, and never returned.

[@AvishaiGreenstein]

Tech webs and multiple tech trees always seem cool on paper but never work.

[@cybersaiyan9596]

@@AvishaiGreenstein i mean, the culture tree works.

[@Solus749]

you are not supposed to get the full tree...that is the entire point of it. To mix it up between games.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I've tried to make videos on this game many times and tbh it is always too painful to get through, god speed.

[@DoubleTrouble-li5wi]

You should do a multiplayer game of this. The suffering would be delicious. Also, surely it can't be as painful as the Canadian Desert game you did?

[@MasonBially]

I... I actually like this game.

[@christophermurphree2315]

There are some great mods for it you could try out to make it easier

[@benferris6472]

As soon as i saw your channel i had to click on to see if your irish i was right, (: 🇮🇪

[@giaxo1739]

@@MasonBially I do as well! And the modding community is great.

[@LazerShark7777]

*moves a unit “This will effect the economy of REACH CITY”

[@doyouknowkeplertwentytwob4032]

*affect

[@TheVincenzoGaming]

@@doyouknowkeplertwentytwob4032 effect*

[@ChannelMiner]

@@TheVincenzoGaming *affect

[@PointsofData]

​@@ChannelMiner effect*

[@EepyTransGal]

@@PointsofData *affect

[@unofficial_computer]

Whoever that was defending their city against constant bug attacks was basically playing Starship Troopers.

[@astranix0198]

Or Starcraft Zerg Rush.

[@realah3001]

Ew s*rtrd

[@gatordragon6140]

Nids come to attack on titan

[@realah3001]

Or just any ra2 surv map

[@Skydragonace]

So, for real, this game was actually a lot of fun and had so much potential. It's actually such a shame that it was abandoned by the developers so suddenly, because with some work, this had the potential to be one of the best civ games made in a long time.

[@housewilma4904]

well when everyons reaction 'REEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE IT" no matter what they do what else did ya expect. i wish people gave it chance and played as its own game instead expecting alpha centaur remake or a civ game with a sci fi skin. its geuinely a great game but its good for the roleplay and choice and events.

[@ecogreen123]

@@housewilma4904 as someone who gave it a chance, a minor 179 hours, i love beyond earth and i kinda prefer it over civ 6.

[@housewilma4904]

@@ecogreen123 same hear. though civ 6 is still my third favourite with its plague and red death and other similar unique modes.

[@ecogreen123]

@@housewilma4904 that's understandable. civ 6 is just ranked #2 for me personally.

[@housewilma4904]

​@@ecogreen123 alpha centauri is my number 1 its technially not a civ series game on that note i recommed age of wonders planet fall. its alot like beyond earth but faster and its new empire mode lets you connect your past saves and build a "empire" which is quite cool.

[@captainstroon1555]

As Beyond Earth was my first ever Civ, I didn't have any expectations going into it and actually quite enjoy it. The affinity system resulting in diverging tech trees is really neat.

[@TopHatHat]

The affinity system is perhaps one of the few elements of this game I actually enjoy and perhaps think the mainstream civ games might benefit from.

[@SHDUStudios]

Same here.

[@go-away-5555]

It had some fantastic ideas. Also the AI was much better than other civs (eveb civ 6)

[@fonzymaningat2324]

It's actually quite sad that many don't like Beyond Earth because for me it was the opposite. I remember wanting to play this game so bad when I first discovered it in 2016 and last year I finally had my chance to play it. Also, it was Rising Tide which made the game more interesting unit wise because instead of only three affinities you now have six, not to mention, their designs are cool as well. However, when I compare CivB to Civ5, Civ B is a bit plain and boring. Especially in the early stages of the game, you have to go into the middle stages for things to get interesting. But in my case I did not care as much because all I wanted is to play the hybrid units and go to war as soon as possible. I had a fun time until I had to delete it because it gave my computer a virus of some sort. Hehe.

[@fonzymaningat2324]

@@go-away-5555 Agreed. My first "retire" in the game was because two of the AI was about to fuck me up so good because I did not have the minimum military to be considered threatening.

[@deeznoots6241]

“These aliens seem easy to kill” - Vale, completely clueless about the Aliens aggression system in the game

[@Silverfishv9]

I still think elements like the Orbital Layer, Ocean Cities (from the DLC), the dynamic interactions with aliens, and the quest system should have made it into Civ VI. There were really cool ideas here that never got to reach their full potential since Firaxis scrapped everything.

[@Nukestarmaster]

The quest system was also in Civ IV. I don't know why they removed it for V. But BE had so many innovative ideas and - frankly - had better execution than 6.

[@maciejbala477]

@@Nukestarmaster they unnecessarily removed quite a few perfectly working mechanics from Civ IV in Civ V. Never understood it and honestly made me never want to play the game again and just stuck to IV to this day. Don't get why people take a popular franchise, then change it so much that the elements on which its build on and make it worse.

[@calebweldon8102]

Yea the orbital layer is so cool

[@araaraaura1887]

Orbital and ocean layers were awesome in the Civ Call to Power series.

[@skipperxiv9401]

I don't think Beyond Earth was bad, but it's very different and is quite a departure from Civ 5 and Alpha Centauri so I understand why it didn't get much attention. Kind of a shame cause with a second expansion and some performance fixes it could have been a really fun, unique Civ experience.

[@Jsay18]

It's "Characters" aren't. They simply are not the equal to Alpha Centauri's Leader Cast, which is why people like that game still, along with the diplomacy and unit design.

[@skipperxiv9401]

@@Jsay18 I haven't played Alpha Centauri to be honest but I can definitely see how the leaders in this game are pretty lackluster, even in comparison to 5 or 6. Diplomacy is also really weird but I do like the unit system in this game.

[@Zergking100]

@@Jsay18 Nothing can compare to the glorious schizophrenia of Alpha Centarui's leaders.

[@hitomisalazar4073]

I agree it's not bad... it's just that Alpha Centauri itself was a very poor thing to market i as a comparison to. Alpha Centauri was a lot more engaging with everything from how the tech unfolded to how the victory conditions formed up (Hell my first victory in it was cornering the global energy market). It's not that Beyond Earth is bad... it's just bad in comparison. And I think it kind of suffered from the meme status of everyone crapping on it at first and that's all that anyone really remembers of it. Particularly because of the hype and expectations of a "better" Alpha-Centauri. Kind of the same trap that games from No Man's Sky to Mass Effect 3 fell into of highly unrealistic expectations. Beyond Earth has issues. I dislike for example the lack of "build a unit" style stuff from Alpha Centauri. I do like that Psychic Combat was dropped (and how stupidly OP it was in Alpha Centauri). I dislike how... random that the Victory conditions feel. I don't really feel like I'm building up towards things until I just get an update saying "You can win via...". As opposed to Alpha Centauri where the victory conditions were built up over the game. With the techs you learned having their little bits talking about and teasing the paths. Like the awakening of psychic potential and harmony with the planet's hivemind or discovering practical immortality and a new age of insanely wealthy oligarchs that would make the robber barons of the 19th century blush in shame at their opulence. But the game itself? I found it "okay". I liked some concepts that could have been done better. I liked some of the struggles and progression from "holy shit aliens run!" to being able to handle them (Much better than say the Barbarians in Civ 5 which start as something easily handled and basically disappear entirely as a threat by the midgame). It wasn't horrible like it's played up... it however was nowhere near what people expected from Alpha-Centauri "spiritual successor".

[@Jsay18]

@@skipperxiv9401 Look up MandaloreGaming's Video on Alpha Centauri for a ROUGH examination.

[@Virtrial]

How could they remove our ability to spam notification noise in the lobby chat? DAMN YOU SID MYANMAR

[@Pseudoplasmagore]

*Meier

[@Virtrial]

@@Pseudoplasmagore you clearly don't get the reference

[@christater5540]

This kind of makes me want to see you guys play Alpha Centauri, but through Play by Email where everyone has to scrutinize what changed between turns

[@dynamo8846]

fuck that to the greatest degree

[@PointsofData]

Oh god

[@YerpyMoose]

ah, the nostalgia of play-by-post

[@overlord_cloudread]

This entire video is enlightening. I enjoyed Beyond Earth, and would have happily played it multiplayer.

[@ecogreen123]

agreed

[@dudethatischillin]

Same I was like I thought it was a good game

[@MasonBially]

Same here.

[@alicestolze8327]

THANK YOU Vale was out here gaslighting me into thinking I was the only person who enjoyed BE

[@ecogreen123]

@@alicestolze8327 let me tell ya, it's pretty mixed 59% positive reviews overall and 79% positive reviews recently. so generally it's mixed but recently it's a bit more positive.

[@Duckst3p]

I remember grinding out (almost) all achievements in this game, the only one I never got was PLAY A MULTIPLAYER GAME

[@mortimershiflett7115]

In middle school I was deep in the civ byeond earth hype train. I counted down everyday until its release, starting at least 50 days before. The last class of everyday was just me dreaming about playing the game, and annoying my friends as we walked back from school by updating them on the countdown. When the game came out and I was at least 10 hours in, it finally sunk in that it was just an incomplete civ v with a wacky paintjob, and that this was the payoff for my multi-week countdown. Civ Beyond Earth was so traumatically underwhelming that I have never been able to get on a game hype train ever again.

[@ArcNine9Angel]

Have you considered trying Alpha Centauri? If you can placate the oddness of dated graphics and interface, the depth of the game still holds up! Okay I wrote this before starting the video, I'm sorry. xD I grew up with it thanks to my dad and it's very dear to my heart.

[@CantusTropus]

On the plus side, it taught you a valuable lesson in avoiding hype trains.

[@mortimershiflett7115]

@@ArcNine9Angel I did try Alpha Centauri about a year ago. Yeah, it is a lot more difficult to get into but a great joy when it pays off and the world changes and reacts to your decisions. All the wonders, technologies, leaders, even the planet itself, are so much more interesting in Alpha Centauri. I just have to get used to the controls and unit stacking.

[@maciejbala477]

Damn, I got scarred by trying Civ V on release (I've heard it's now good, but after the bad experience from launch day I never really want to try it again... so I never moved past Civ IV), so can't imagine what an incomplete version must be like. But yeah, seems Civ V was the same to me as Beyond Earth seems to be to you. I got hyped for it before and it was thoroughly underwhelming. This and Heroes of Might and Magic VI killed all my hype for games, until this day lol. Barely even try new ones. I just wanted to say I understand this feeling of being really let down by a game you were very hyped for, and since it's worse than Civ V in your description, your experience must have been even worse.

[@gideonmele1556]

All who hop aboard the hype train inevitably get dropkicked off. Where you get kicked off and into what varies but we all feel your pain… and still some broken ribs

[@obviouscadillac9493]

I genuinely cannot believe this. I've been watching this man the WHOLE DAY, my stomach HURTS from laughing and when I'm finally done he uploads! Literally trying to kill me with all these videos, man.

[@creeker2017]

The most painful part of this experience is finding out Vale is the only one who saw Starship Troopers

[@Ryggy]

As someone who has lived near Jimboomba seeing it in a video game is like a fever dream. I dont think words can express what this feels like. It's such an irrelevant place, it's like naming your child after your postman's cousin.

[@ryanpetfield8880]

Same I live near Jimboomba. It's so weird hearing it in a game.

[@alexl0923]

BE was my first Civ game and i thoroughly enjoyed it - the DLC definitely makes it better.

[@syahmikadira6832]

Yup same here as well. Got to play it during a free weekend & thought it was fun so I bought Civ5 but I never looked back at Beyond Earth

[@approximateCognition]

Oceans actually being interesting+ hybrid affinities are fun

[@Ed-1749]

Vale was the real hero here, defending the rest against the hordes of bugs. Literally the starship trooper.

[@Mini1124]

There's a lot of really cool aspects in Beyond Earth, but absolutely nothing feels fleshed out. I really liked the ocean and building mechanics, as well as being able to choose how you interacted with the alien life (being xenophobic, friendly, or neutral) via techs and culture. If they took another year or two on this game I think it would be absolutely fantastic.

[@korriganmarsh6934]

I played it a while ago and it was cool as hell, but yeah lacking a lot. I didn’t know they scrapped it, shame

[@heartysquid]

Good ideas, poor execution. Like the beginning of Skyrim 😂

[@samwill7259]

When your game has gotten to the point where Valefisk can just...play it straight. Terrifying

[@pacman1682]

No, the harmony soldier upgrade that does flat percentage damage to those around it is just broken against any other affinity, production and affinity upgrades are pretty unbalanced and not something you can deal with if you're slightly behind

[@minhducnguyen9276]

Yeah. I used to think Supremacy stackable bonus is stronger but somehow the Harmony units just plough through them like nothing even when it's just a single tank and soldiers cause too much damage before going down.

[@jaeusa160]

Yeah lol, to say this game has balance issues would be to implying this game is more balanced than it is. Nothing mods can't fix I'm sure though.

[@robertblume2951]

Generally my purity soldiers are buzzsawing through the enemy. When are you just standing next to somebody?

[@pacman1682]

@@robertblume2951 Not sure what you mean, the harmony soldier have an upgrade which does percentage damage regardless of power, and the soldiers can just suicide into your units. The issue is if behind in production for whatever reason whether it be skill issue or a bad spawn, a harmony player at late game can just win by production in most of my experiences.

[@thornels]

🤓

[@No-uc6fg]

Beyond Earth was a disappointment cause the leaders are completely one dimensional, no personality, since they have to reflect you going towards any of the 3 paths. Alpha Centauri's characters had soul, the planet itself was an antagonist, even the leaders you could empathize with the least had a point or two that made a lot of sense, such as Sister Miriam's "we must dissent" point when you built the auto managing cities project.

[@ecogreen123]

skill issue

[@jaydenshepard7928]

Didnt see anyone else making a better game at the time in the same theme, believe me I looked. The best one was Beyond Earth.

[@Nukestarmaster]

It's not like the leaders have much personality in other Civ games. In fact, I would say that BE has more personalities in its leaders than Civ V.

[@Graknorke]

@@jaydenshepard7928 ...ok? it's still worse than SMAC though so who cares

[@jaydenshepard7928]

@@Graknorke Ok? So go play that old game then and stop crying about a newer game that never said it was trying to replace that one. SMAC isnt even a civilization game, two different franchises at work here. They were doing something like it, not making a direct sequel.

[@ARCADEkid55]

The Codex mod for this game actually makes it one of my fav civ games. If you've never tried it you should check it out.

[@leonodonoghueburke4276]

I loved that mod, but I think the quests break after a while. Also in my game I think the ai had trouble with the new resource system.

[@Sigskogi]

Ah, another Chad Codex enjoyer

[@LAZERAK47V2]

Civ BE is a tragic tale of missed potential. They had so many good ideas but just couldn't execute them properly and then abandoned it for Civ VI. This game just makes me sad.

[@TheRezro]

Worst. They have perfect template in Alpha Centauri.

[@thymedfire]

I think it says a lot about this game that I, who grew up playing Civ alongside a father who loved the Civ games, have literally never heard of it until this video showed up on my feed. Like fully I did not know this existed, and a sci-fi Civ game would have been right up our alleys.

[@ArcNine9Angel]

Hey fellow Civ-enjoyer! My dad is the reason I learned Alpha Centauri and Civ, it really is a shame more wasn't done with BE....

[@montypython5521]

it says that you stopped playing civ games for a while

[@robertblume2951]

@@montypython5521 nah. I wouldn't have heard of it if my wife didn't buy the game for me either. I never moved from 3 to 4 and 4 to 5 would just play mods like the Rod and Dragon for 3 or other things. And didn't follow game development. I still haven't played 6 and when I get a civ itch I just load up be or colonization. Frankly yalls dissing 6 makes me think 3 and be should be fine with me forever.

[@GodwynDi]

It was a good game too. I enjoyed it more than Civ VI by a lot.

[@xdarin_]

"I hate the chat noise so much, it's so loud" *_The entire lobby knew what to do._*

[@antoncabotta5364]

I like the idea that REACH CITY would be written in capital letters in every written record in that universe

[@nicorozner7417]

Day 874 Another expedition left yesterday evening. They saw a gap in the xenos, thought they might make it through. We haven't heard back from them since they went over the horizon. Nobody had to ask what happened to them, we'd all seen it before. One time, two months ago, the colony vehicle barely made it a few meters from the fence before the Manticores were on it. We barely got the fence back up before they could get in. That goddamn fence. On the one hand, it's the only thing keeping the tide of xenos from eating REACH CITY alive. I guess we've got that to be grateful for. But on the other hand, I'd almost prefer that. Those xenos, they're always wandering about just outside the fence, watching us with curious, or angry, or hungry eyes. Any breakout attempt ends up with hundreds dead and nothing to show for it. We're trapped in a little pen. Prisoners of this stupid godforsaken planet. I'm meant to guard this fence, but really, who's guarding who? Because I feel like a zoo animal in here. Sometimes I wonder what's out there, beyond the horizon. Nobody's lived long enough to see most of the planet. Even our jets can only get so far beyond the fence before something swats them down. We have no idea what. I feel like there's gotta be somewhere nicer out there, somewhere with less xenos, and no fence. Sure, I'd die before I made it fifty meters out there. But I'd see something before I bit the dust. Something new, something exciting, maybe even something nicer. Maybe that would make it all worth it. -Journal of PFC Kim Chen, PACMC

[@strigon012]

"I came, I saw, I _came._ " - Julius Ceasar, up on arrival to REACH CITY.

[@yoshilovesyoshi]

When I look at it, it could've honestly been a Civ 5 DLC scenario. I would've played that game, I would've spent money on that. Cuz when you get a science victory in Civ 5, it asks you if you want to "go beyond earth." Man I thought that was so so cool...

[@thenorthshow3655]

That option was added so you could buy the game

[@thenorthshow3655]

That option was added so you could buy the game

[@loah_1]

This video had the opposite effect of the intent; i actually redownloaded it because I enjoyed it a lot when I first played it. Thanks Vale!

[@WrathOfMega]

BE actually might be one of my favorite Civ games. I guess that shows just how much of a sucker I am for sci-fi. I really hope they do make an attempt at some kind of BE 2. I think the people at Firaxis were really crushed by the reception. While the writing around the factions and leaders was bland or underdeveloped, you can tell they put a lot of thought and effort into a lot of the writing and I think they were genuinely proud of what they made right up until the game launched. Ultimately I think the game comes off wrong for a lot of the same reasons people don't find science fiction interesting. It's just too... Rationalist. There is all of this thought into the science and all the cool and elaborate machinery, but far too little of the messy, squishy, and eccentric human bits. This is why people compare BE unfavorably to Alpha Centauri, which is full of megalomaniacal supervillainy and mad scientists. In AC it just feels more like people are actually enjoying being alive.

[@Nukestarmaster]

Honestly, I feel like BE was never given a fair chance due to people obsessively comparing it to Alpha Centuri and not letting it be its own game.

[@zephyr8072]

I disagree that there was much thought put into it at all. The setting was bland and cookie cutter and all the factions were utterly generic and boring. The static portraits of Alpha Centauri had 1000 times the personality of anything in Beyond Earth. You had diamond tycoons investing their money into a tech giant. Amoral scientists. Religious zealots. Military hardliners. All with their own deep backgrounds and stories. In Beyond Earth you had Africa but in space! Europe but in space! America but in space! It was so utterly, _utterly_ banal the only way I could stand playing it was by making a modded faction. One example of how thoughtless, meandering and lazy the plot and setting was - one of the ways you "win" is by opening a portal to earth and getting more colonists in. Colonists who don't join your cities. And how exactly getting a bunch of useless earthlings to cross over and take up land counts as any sort of victory is never explained. Furthermore if they didn't want to be compared unfavourably to Alpha Centauri, they shouldn't have tried to make a spiritual successor to Alpha Centauri with less than half the effort.

[@TopHatHat]

@@Nukestarmaster If your game is marketed as a successor to a game, takes mechanics from that game or builds upon it, I think its very legitimate to compare. It can't "Be its own game" because its not its own game, its a successor to Alpha Centauri. Its like comparing the newer reboot XCOM games to the old ones, the overall gameplay is different, but it improved massively on the original hence very successful. I hate games with outdated graphics, the only exemption I have ever had in my lifetime is Alpha Centauri, it is honestly that good.

[@nejkajaryba1710]

I still remember many quotes from wonders, technologies and affinity upgrades...

[@matheusGMN]

@@zephyr8072 well, it is, you just never payed attention, in the game you left earth in the first place because it's becoming unihabitable, so some of the endings reflect just that, the ending you're talking about is the evacuation of Earth, the purity ending, you win because you did the objective of the mission in the first place, and since humans are the "pure stuff" them bringing everyone left on Earth is a good thing(like a promised land), there is another ending in which you invade earth because it's a faction that believes they achieved emancipation or whatever from the flesh, and it lacked on earth, and they were going to bring it back, there is some story, but I guess people never bothered to read/pay atention to it

[@EonHSD]

I’m a huge Sci-Fi nerd and feel in love with Civ BE ever since I saw the trailers at Gamescom. It was my first Civ and the only one to date I’ve ever played so I don’t see any issue so far lol. I’m scared of what happens when I play Civ 6 tho…

[@bmg50barrett74]

"I came, I saw, delicioso" -Dora, 1682 on the eve of her victory over Russia

[@thelunaticcultist5157]

36:11 I love how everybody’s laughs start looping on top of each other at the mere mention of “next time”

[@justindieterich1773]

Ah Valefisk, the living embodiment of “who’s more foolish? The fool or the one who follows him?”

[@fritzophrenia3146]

22:22 Gladly serving my tour of duty outside the fence to get a turn in the estrogen pod

[@freyamiles3718]

Me next

[@Chrischi3TutorialLPs]

I gotta be honest though, ripping the lore of Beyond Earth and selling it as your own isn't that crazy. I did the same thing in english class one time, except i stole the idea of Pikmin instead. My teacher, if she caught me, at least didn't say anything. Which is to say she probably didn't, because she was the kind of teacher who would lie to my parents' faces about my behaviour in class.

[@jujito69]

I love this game, i play with dlcs and i love how the ocean looks, the idea of floating cities, and above the tec tree i love how the cities and units evolve with your civ ideologi like supremacy or adapatation. I also apreciate the atention to detail in the farms, the microsubmarine when you do a subacuatic excavation, etc

[@hades_head_empty]

i just realized that d&d or something similar would be a great way to torture your friends. i'd love to see your chaos unleashed in a combat lethal one shot or something like that. (also i just want more ttrpg content, i'm slowly running out)

[@jaydenshepard7928]

You’ve run out of DnD content on youtube? How is that even possible?

[@jkl5901]

Send Valefisk a copy of the tomb of horrors

[@redcrown5154]

mental ill pfp

[@Astar24653]

To torture dnd players all you need is a book of puzzles for middleschoolers and youre good

[@hades_head_empty]

@@jaydenshepard7928 not yet, but soon. i'm caught up on all of my favorites and the new ones i've found have been very hit or miss

[@Nukestarmaster]

Civ: BE isn't that bad. The big problem with it is that everyone was expecting Alpha Centuri, and BE is not Alpha Centuri.

[@theinsanegamergeek]

It's pretty bad. The research system is a byzantine mess, the textures are muddy and bland, the aliens are total BS, and the factions all feel the same and are put to shame by the variety from the first civ 20 years prior. It's nowhere near as engaging as civ V was, and thats really saying something.

[@Nukestarmaster]

@@theinsanegamergeek The only thing I agree with you on is the textures.

[@TheRezro]

@@Nukestarmaster That is still a fault of publisher.

[@dragonswrath1890]

I honestly don’t think civ beyond earth is bad. It’s just different from other civ games. Some of the concepts are good and I liked the different paths you could go.

[@Graknorke]

I think the problem is actually it's too much like other Civ games (V specifically). it's the raw mechanics with the pseudohistorical flavor stripped away and that doesn't leave you with much compelling at all

[@TheRezro]

@@Graknorke There is also better Civ in space. This game doesn't hold bear to old Alpha Centauri.

[@Graknorke]

@@TheRezro SMAC isn't just civ in space, it tries to be its own thing. That's what makes it interesting.

[@Rannos22]

Thank God, it's a Christmas miracle! More valefisk!

[@travismoore7849]

The mods that let you build coral, and adjust coral stats, and work mountains along with marine domes and colonize water would be great for a mostly water world game.

[@ProfDrhobo2]

A small part of me hoped that the entire video would be the ten seconds at the start and then 42 minutes of outro music. But what we got is still good.

[@awsomesaucekirby]

I like beyond earth. I like the units and affinity trees

[@ecogreen123]

me too

[@acecombat2shill]

37:37 will power, the guy who won the indycar championship this year, is from Toowoomba

[@l0lLorenzol0l]

Such a shame Beyond Earth fell so flat. It had such potential.

[@josephmontanaro2350]

6:43 no joke a post apocalyptic mod for this would be fun, have you find famous ruins and other stuff from dead civilizations

[@olejnik5165]

I love the designs of soldiers, vehicles etc and the 3 ways u can evolve into

[@512TheWolf512]

It's amazing that at this point, it's REALLY hard to tell a game that's almost TEN YEARS OLD

[@Brent-jj6qi]

Halo 4 turns 11 soon, could’ve been release last week graphics wise

[@L_Withers]

So am I the only person that actually enjoys Civ:Beyond? Ok so maybe it is just that I am a sucker for all things space, but I really enjoy it!

[@robertblume2951]

I liked it

[@I_Am_Kas]

The fact that I know how he made the sound at 24:18 brings me hope for my career as an alien in TV.

[@baconzeon9843]

do another game of this with DLC its more fun that way.

[@ComDenox]

Technically the first 10 seconds were not clickbait. The opposite of 50% of KZbin.

[@Giantspaz]

Played this with my dad one time and stole a ruins site from him so he tried to embargo me, just surround my waters with frigates. I was way ahead of him in tech and I made one demand. "Do you want to move your ships or do you want me to move them to the bottom of the ocean?" I had to move his ships.

[@cloud19568]

I would love to see a video on this concept done better with Offworld Trading Company, though no idea if it even holds up. If I recall it would be easily possible to have a skilled vs new gimmick to ruin the latter's experience, or have a secret alliance going into the game.

[@PerfectZeroMusic_]

Great! Now make this into a shorts video and have it ACTUALLY end on "NO" (0:06) XD

[@__prometheus__]

Man, I remember playing this game when I was 13 all those years ago. I loved it a lot as it was my first civ game. It was quite sad how it just faded away from popular memory.

[@abusedumpster8882]

Im fairly certain I'm the only person in the world who enjoyed Beyond Earth despite its flaws.

[@saucewaifu]

This is like the seventh time I’ve tried to watch this video, I’ve been too high to remember what happens at all, love you vale

[@Sgt_Robo]

I like beyond earth tbh. It also has a very nice total overhaul mod called CODEX which is actually super fun.

[@hailbopthecomet]

The mention of the song Starship Trooper gave me fuckin whiplash, what a niche pull

[@sugoistalin7809]

If they didn't market it as the successor of alpha centuries, it would've been fine.

[@joshformerlyjambicglortpam8775]

Vales units when leaving the city are beyond the reach of civilisation, they have left the fence and so must fend for themselves. “they are beyond the fence” -unknown

[@jrjuaneza3643]

This is beautiful. I love waiting for and watching your videos. Can't wait for more torture sessions.

[@BrowncoatGofAZ]

I am unashamed to say that Civ:BE is actually my favorite Civ game. I liked the idea of starting new on another world rather than replaying human history.

[@reepusvanguard]

Stellaris does it better, youd probably like that game

[@BrowncoatGofAZ]

@@reepusvanguard I’ve played stellaris, but I have the habit of roleplaying as an egalitarian democracy, so I don’t usually go big. Don’t even get me started on the endgame crises.

[@uwskie8672]

look this is the first civ game i bought with my own money and i love it. might explain why i like ypur videos too. I unironically have 100 hours in this game.

[@gfmustard]

Chamber shouting soda reminded me that i poured myself a drink and completely forgot about it

[@zephyr8072]

Beyond Earth is Alpha Centauri without the personality. Or the imagination. Or the fun.

[@taxavation]

I like the think that one of the devs was from Jimboomba, and just sided his town in as a little Easter egg

[@laryjr1830]

Am I allowed to say Beyond Earth is my guilty pleasure? I absolutely prefer 5 but there is just something about Beyond that draws me to it at least once a year.

[@martysdogs8]

Vale, you definitely gotta drag these poor souls into Stellaris. There are soooo many ways you could fuck with them.

[@echomjp]

The answer definitely will not shock and surprise me. Edit: Thanks for clearing that up in the first five seconds of the video lmao.

[@q306005]

I must be the only person on the planet that actually liked Beyond Earth. I liked it more than Civ V on release. I felt it just needed more content. The multitude of expansions is what made Civ V playable. And then they released a single expansion that barely changed anything about the game and abandoned it. Despite loving the game, it is one of the few "Not Recommended" reviews I've ever written on Steam.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

Oh ye this existed I recall when the yogscast did this on their civ channel with sid meier himself when it just released

[@housewilma4904]

actually they didnt they never played it once they played a bootleg rip off of the game before it realsed then joined the "fkthis" bandwagon and never played this.

[@Orzacle]

Same, it was so bad I didn’t get it lol

[@evanlucas8914]

NGL the flavor text in the civlopedia for a lot of the units and techs from this game is genuinely great sci-fi concepts. The gameplay itself was meh. But the writing of the lore was excellent.

[@MaxwellTornado]

I miss Mandy's review of this game. The Australian segment was brilliant.

[@nicu.1871]

I bought a disc of this game when it came out, not realizing I didn’t have the hardware to play it

[@tyrakodyrg2511]

Now you need to play with the DLC mentioned

[@CommissarMitch]

I used to love this back in the day. Sad it fell so short.

[@jaeusa160]

...I guess I am the 1 person who unironically liked this game. (Less alone than I thought it seems.) I liked the quest system shifting your civ in directions, or just shoring up weak spots. I loved that units globally auto-upgraded, so it didn't feel so wasteful having to built military at any point. I liked that the AI had at least slightly more diplomatic nuance than repeatedly yelling "Warmonger!" at you like it's some kind of ancient Valefisk meme video. If you attacked someone they disliked, they didn't whine, they celebrated. I would've vastly preferred Civ 6 iterating more from 5 and BE than the Civ 6 we got, not that I think Civ 6 is bad because Civ 6 is good too. :) I just really despise districts and the lack of a pressure against spamming small wide garbage cities.

[@Kanjejou]

yeah i liked how the AI looked logical in its choices, andn the ambiance

[@Direbeetus]

districts are my favorite thing about civ 6. The city planning in the early - mid game is a blast My biggest gripe is the loyalty system, though I have slowly learned you can simply build a government plaza by chopping down a forest immediately after taking a loyalty weak city

[@EggLordTobias]

The colour palette looks like someone threw up and exploded in an art classroom.

[@DerConrad1]

I played Beyond Earth for over 35 hours but I don't know anything about the game anymore

[@aethelfrith7376]

Played for 150 or so

[@ecogreen123]

got a little over 179 hours

[@simplythecat4068]

I actually remember playing Beyond earth as a kid in hotseat funnily enough, felt like a blast back then. its cool to see your units and cities evolve depending on what path of progression and research you picked, sort of like modern Age of Wonders 4 or something.

[@Gamespud94]

I am extremely disappointed that none of these guys (apart from vale at least) has seen the majesty of Starship Troopers.. I hope they at least want to know more.

[@22_solo]

Man this is the first civ game I played because that was the time my father gave me my own pc and tbh I loved it as my first and then after civ 6 came out I moved to it and still play civ games from time to time

[@reepusvanguard]

Play Civ 5 its so much better

[@Akehiko_Urabaya]

It was the only civ game with a dedicated diplomatic “fuck off, but not in a war way” button It’s better than 6 but 5 will always stay the true king

[@Cronirios]

With the DLC, I thought, "Oh, this would be cool with friends", but it's true the game is not that fun and that this one was kind of painful to watch

[@Volthoom]

I expected a civ3 video based on the music in last video's outro. Will there ever be a civ3 video? :D

[@Americanbadashh]

Windows 10, breaks Civ3. I'm not sure if Windows 11 has that issue but it might

[@KingDerpy13]

Everyone was playing a normal game of Civ. Temod was playing fucking Starship Troopers.

[@purpledevilr7463]

I like to use advanced starts and a mod that allows me to have only 1 civ. Make a fungal world, Indian protectorate, harmony. Or maybe Terran world, Africa (renamed to Terran empire), purity.

[@Archris17]

Purity/Harmony hybrid is the best affinity, there's no question.

[@purpledevilr7463]

@@Archris17 not at all. It’s the weirdest/oddest one. I would align with Supremacy myself.

[@wiktorkedziora3155]

Happy 10th Anniversary From Sid Meier's Civilization Beyond Earth!!!!!!🎲🎲🔟🎲🎲🎂🧋🎂🧋🎂💎💞💎🎂💞🧋💎👑💞🧋💝💘💕💝💕💘💕 Sid Meier's Civilization Beyond Earth (24 October 2014 - 24 October 2024)

[@HeckaLives]

As a massive fan of Alpha Centauri as well as Civ 5, I was massively hyped for this game. It was a real disappointment. But there were some really awesome ideas buried under all this copy paste experience.

[@Nukestarmaster]

"Copy paste experience"? BE was an incredibly innovative game.

[@HeckaLives]

@@Nukestarmaster Copy past so far as; The leaders don't have a single personality between them. The landscape doesn't have distinct biomes, so the whole planet blurs together. And the factions don't have too much in the way of unique units or buildings, so they don't feel culturally unique either. But all this copy and paste prevents most people from seeing the genuine innovation; like the alien hive AI or technology web.

[@TopHatHat]

@@Nukestarmaster Having played Alpha Centauri, BE adds a number of new mechanics I can count on one hand.

[@Nukestarmaster]

@@HeckaLives Sure the leaders are bland ... if you compare them to the leaders of Alpha Centauri, but not if you compare them to literally any other Civ game. Similarly, BE had all the terrain types that V had (plus a couple more). And yes, factions didn't have unique units or buildings, but that is because they were given to the affinities instead.

[@HeckaLives]

@@Nukestarmaster It's mostly the art style that lets the biomes down. The tundra is the most distinct biome; jungles and desert blend together. Also, there are only 3 affinities plus their hybrids. You honestly don't think they could have sprung for one culturally unique unit and building per faction? BE isn't the nuclear nightmare everyone pretends it is. But it is definitely the weakest link in the series, despite having all the mechanics of Civ 5 with DLC.

[@FuelDropforthewin]

My preferred tactic is just research every bonus to farms until they generate an ungodly amount of food, science, and productivity, at which point all of my settlements are monstrously powerful.

[@roach590]

I actually really like it, way more than civ6

[@reepusvanguard]

Literally anything is better then 6

[@NobodyImportant5]

That civil 3 music in the beginning sent me back in time bro. Such a good game.