Is Control Still the Best Deck in Pioneer | Ascendancy Combo vs Azorius Control

[@CardmarketMagic]

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[@DoublePhilip]

Amazing vid. Thoralf is a great host, Gabriel is a great guest, both amazing players, pioneer, educational, decks... Everything awesome. Chef's kiss

[@metrafem4734]

Couldn't agree more

[@CardmarketMagic]

Legends!

[@joseadrianoferreira944]

this is great magic content. usually when you watch someone strem you only learn how to play one deck. here you learn 2 at the same time :)

[@CardmarketMagic]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@marcelukawski1346]

I love this video format. Great tips for new players combined with great matches. Keep em comming!

[@CardmarketMagic]

That is the plan!

[@Darium856]

Bois this is supreme Magic content. I have been going through and binging yall’s content and it has just made me crave paper magic more and more. Keep it up, seriously really good stuff.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! That is very kind of you to say :D

[@27Lands]

Shout out to the production team, really impressive! Keep up the great work!

[@Doublecake17]

The editing on this viedo is so slick. Great job, thank you for the high quality content.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Our pleasure!

[@ravedave1272]

Please more Pioneer Matches :)

[@firebirddy9998]

Risky play, but Thoralf could've silenced in game 3 before his Ascendency for potentially the win. Good matches overall, it's nice to see some pioneer content.

[@KennnnHK]

I assume you mean when he had 7 mana and Nassif only had otherworldly light. The Silence had to go last to trigger ascendency to untap the lands. If you play silence first, resolves, then you play Ascendency and Awakening, whets untapping your lands? If you play Ascendency after silence,, then Awakening, the Ascendency triggers, untapping your creatures but at that point you don't have creatures yet, then awakening resolves and all you man lands are tapped. If you play awakening first, you don't have a non creature spell to trigger Ascendency.

[@Swnkmstr]

@@KennnnHK With our perfect knowledge of Nassif's hand (31:55) the play was Awakening 1st, Ascendancy 2nd and then Silence 3rd. Awaking - Animate your lands Ascendancy - Set up the combo Silence - Untap your lands, giving you 7 3/3's Nassif's worst play is to March ascendancy and die to 21 power on board and his best play is to March 2 lands w/ Thoralf then presenting 5 3/3's or 15 damage Assuming he makes the best play and exiles 2 lands, Thoralf should Fry the 1/1 Soldier giving him 5 4/4's for lethal damage.

[@mrgamgee5858]

37:46 exactly how I feel every time I draw negate late game against UW control!

[@martin_goodlad]

Thanks! It’s nice to see pioneer making a comeback and that you guys are making some great pioneer content :)

[@CardmarketMagic]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@J3P]

This is excellent content. Easy to follow and great tips from pro players. Would love to see you guys try out a Grixis Lutri deck in pioneer :)

[@CardmarketMagic]

Great suggestion!

[@returningwhisper]

Great seeing both of these amazing players here!

[@CardmarketMagic]

We got very lucky!

[@maxreis9534]

Nassif on the full control train. I love it!

[@paulmallet3104]

Great content as usual, shout out to the editors for the great work !

[@CardmarketMagic]

We will let them know!

[@David-hb3gu]

I have been watching all of yalls videos sincei found this channel about a weak ago Great content you are are so awsome

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you :) I'm happy you enjoy. We put a lot of work into our videos and have a lot of fun making them!

[@janbabinski4081]

Love watching pro players with tier decks on this channel!!! Great content :D :D :D

[@CardmarketMagic]

Glad you like them!

[@billrobinsonmazda]

Keep these coming guys. They're great!!

[@CardmarketMagic]

You are great!

[@noahpurzycki7324]

Ascendancy combo has been the only deck I play in pioneer and I loved seeing it on here and piloted at such a high level, reminds me of how fun the deck is in control matchups and not only scamming people out turn 4 lol

[@reverse_win]

It's been 9 months, but if you see this, I was wondering if Jeskai Ascendancy could run with a cheaper mana base? I bought the cards to build the deck but the lands are more expensive than the whole rest of the deck, so I skipped most of them and was looking for budget alternatives.

[@CardmarketMagic]

It sounds weird to say, but good mana is almost more important to the cards. Not only just for winning (as you will more likely get to play your cards on time) but also for how much fun you have at the game (because you!ll have less feelbad situations where you can't cast your cards). If you don't want to spend the big bucks on boring shock lands or pathways (which I can perfectly understand), I'd at least recommend some guildgates and and cycle lands (like irrigated farmland) 🙂

[@reverse_win]

@@CardmarketMagic Thanks! It makes complete sense.

[@nidzo4394]

Great video! Pioneer content is much appreciated!

[@CardmarketMagic]

That kind of comments is much appreciated too!

[@gaberyan6283]

Really well done video, I pretty much exclusively play mtga arena magic, so seeing this from a top down perspective was certainly interesting. I still prefer the way arena displays your cards but I can see why some people would prefer table magic. That said watching this at 1.75 speed I can safely say arena does allot of the hard micro work for you.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Indeed!

[@doim1676]

The last game was such a rollercoaster ride xD

[@fuukakun8428]

at 29:26 shouldn't the teferi resolve? it's been cast before the silence

[@meta02]

Thoralf casts a mystical dispute targeting teferi after the silence resolves

[@FPRobber]

I'd love to see mono Green devotion. It's everywhere atm

[@migguthi]

I love this kind of content! I'm wandering why it has so few views

[@CardmarketMagic]

Same here! Do no thesitate to share our videos!

[@imnotwhiteiswear]

Thoralf had the win the last game. He even commented on the only play that stops him😂 If he cast Sylvan first then the ascendency, it would jave resolved and he could have cast silence to untap all his lands to become 3/3s, get a free loot, and possibly another trigger 7 3/3s is still lethal.

[@thoralfseverin2112]

Please show the new calobrated blast deck 😏

[@arthiLigue1]

This video is Amazing. PLEASE keep more Pionneer !!!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Pioneer power!

[@evanshaner991]

Being someone who has very limited experience playing formats other than commander, I love these videos due to how easy it is to get into them without knowing anything about the format's metagame and you guys are able to just explain it and make it make sense as it goes. Love the cut aways to the players talking through their decisions and this is honestly some of my favorite Magic content out there right now. Strangely enough, binging these videos has made me realize that I like watching control get played way more in 1v1 formats for whatever reason.

[@anxoviqueira2669]

Jund Food is kind of a pet deck of mine, highly recommended!

[@siradzki5905]

Another great video! 👍

[@Romans1-8]

Here for it!

[@derekhall8453]

Toffel is questing beast 💪🤣

[@hurenopa]

Pioneer is great! I love spikes rakdos artifact sac list! Highly recommend it.

[@HacheMartin152]

Why you don't play your wandering emperor game 2 😢

[@victoraguirre7486]

HOT DAMN WHAT A MATCH

[@DaniszAstronauta]

9:26 how did that happen? Didn't that creature had hexproof?

[@ArborusVitae]

Aether Gust can target spells on the stack.

[@ProfDragonite]

Did Thoralf really just make a Jeff Dunham joke? Huh.

[@kebinus]

Yes please more really good to learn as well the decks to play

[@hawkbern4]

Decklist suggestions: Jund Death Shadow with Tarmogoyf in Modern or Mono Blue Spirits in Pioneer!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Have you got a list to provide us?

[@DefCatofficial]

35:37 how did he play memory deluge on upkeep before untap?

[@forever915ful]

It's an instant, and yellow hat untapped then casted memory in response to Silence

[@DefCatofficial]

@@forever915fulbut how did he untap? Wasn't it on upkeep before untap?

[@colgatelampinen2501]

@@DefCatofficial upkeep is after untap

[@swisssaga4419]

32:33 no thoralf its not disgusting. it is aethergusting

[@disafear3674]

Absolutely loved this video

[@kingalpaca1]

Amazing video ! Keep going

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! Will do!

[@KnickKnax]

Did thoralf make a Jeff Dunham reference?

[@theNoriLi]

Great video!

[@btrbt8613]

This was such an intense match.

[@rubenxramos]

7:49 looks like an anime draw

[@daem0nfaust]

"Silence! I keell you!"

[@joshuarobertson1672]

Someone should play something crazy with aetherworks marvel! Maybe with genesis ultimatum ?

[@semi-relatablerants3964]

Game 3 was so riveting

[@Alexsnow0_0]

Loved the game play.

[@ricogarciaperez4734]

Game 2: Funny that Thoralf has 2 "Ketria Triome" in his Starthand and than plays them and they are "Raugrin Triome" 😅🤣

[@derekhall8453]

26:31- 26:37 is the best

[@reytal496]

Great vid, sending love and support 🙃 can you play a ninjistu deck or a treasure token deck i would really like to see how any of those will play in modern

[@CardmarketMagic]

Have you got a list to send us ? Love!

[@reytal496]

​@@CardmarketMagic just finished build it and i think it got some fire in it (i dont know what goes in the side board but there are 75 cards in the deck list) 3: tezzeret, master of the bridge 3: academy manufactor 2: broodstar 2: galazeth prismari 2: goldspan dragon 4: magda, brazen outlaw 4: ragavan, nimble pilferer 3: subtlety 4: xorn 4: time sieve 3: tormod's crypt 3: hornswoggle 4: lightning bolt 3: prismari command 3: terminate 4: storm the vault // vault of catlacan 2: blood crypt 4: bloodstained mire 1: island 1: mountain 4: polluted delta 4: scalding tarn 3: steam vents 1: swamp 2: watery grave 2: xander's lounge if you got any problem contact me. would love to see you use this deck (: btw this is a modern deck Note (maybe switch lightning bolt with fury)

[@gregoryefs9898]

Seeing that Shark Typhoon cycled hurt me on a deep level, damn

[@ryanwhite3393]

More pioneer please!

[@devineyre5545]

UW control all the way

[@CardmarketMagic]

All the way! All the format!

[@michaelbohm5160]

please more pro vs pro videos!

[@angelvalera1997]

Try some budget cycles :D

[@Kniki104]

really good episode

[@diogoborges00]

Why non-yorion UW?

[@CardmarketMagic]

Have you got a list to give us?

[@diogoborges00]

@@CardmarketMagic Most of the lists making results on MOL are UW yorion 80 cards lists. I like more the 60 cards, and was surprised to see Nassif playing this 60 cards version here. Would be possible to give any thoughts on which one is the correct one to play?

[@nimunarin]

17:47 why is thoralf intentionally taping his cards the wrong way?

[@dustinfurness2155]

The wandering emperor could have exiled the creature that stopped non-creature spells from being countered game 2

[@TimyrosNachos]

I love devotion decks

[@jellysandjamz250]

Any day control loses is a good day

[@otakudibyan24]

Try this deck! Deck 1 Island (NEO) 286 1 Mountain (NEO) 290 4 Steam Vents (GRN) 257 4 Opt (STA) 19 4 Faithless Looting (STA) 38 2 Pillar of Flame (JMP) 355 4 Spirebluff Canal (KLR) 286 4 Arclight Phoenix (GRN) 91 2 Crackling Drake (GRN) 163 1 Finale of Promise (WAR) 127 1 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39 1 Mystical Dispute (ELD) 58 1 Ox of Agonas (THB) 147 2 Stormwing Entity (M21) 73 1 Spikefield Hazard (ZNR) 166 4 Riverglide Pathway (ZNR) 264 4 Unholy Heat (MH2) 145 4 Expressive Iteration (STX) 186 4 Dragon's Rage Channeler (MH2) 121 1 Den of the Bugbear (AFR) 254 4 Consider (MID) 44 1 Flame-Blessed Bolt (VOW) 158 4 Stormcarved Coast (VOW) 265 1 Otawara, Soaring City (NEO) 271 Sideboard 1 Negate (STA) 18 1 Pithing Needle (MID) 257 1 Fry (M20) 140 1 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39 1 Mystical Dispute (ELD) 58 2 Soul-Guide Lantern (THB) 237 2 Anger of the Gods (AKR) 138 2 Abrade (VOW) 139 1 Crackling Drake (GRN) 163 1 Narset, Parter of Veils (WAR) 61 2 Svyelun of Sea and Sky (MH2) 69

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you for the list.

[@CardmarketMagic]

I was going to pick this list for net week's modern match because it looks so fun, but it's unfortunately not legal in any of the formats we play :0 - Carl

[@otakudibyan24]

@@CardmarketMagic so sad but the non legal cards can be substituted though

[@nathanerickson8836]

pog

[@jewski6852]

100% you play the awakening first

[@Vi0ar]

He played the uw control deck so poorly it triggered me. Tapped out vs combo decks to make tokens. Countering expressive iteration instead of saving them for combo pieces. You don’t have to do anything vs combo as control just save your counter spells for their win conditions and let their deck fizzle.

[@siradzki5905]

It's your opinion vs the one of Nassif, pro Tour player for years and player of the year in 2004. I'm gonna trust what he is doing over what some internet troll is saying

[@JayJayPea1]

@@siradzki5905 Nassif played like trash fan boy

[@TheeKrix]

Gabriel “yellow teeth” Nasir

[@JayJayPea1]

Extremely low level play from a hall of fame player. Gabriel used to be good but this looked like some new player who’s never played control before. 0 thought into his plays just randomly cast spells.