Is Cultivated Meat the Future of Food? | Uma Valeti | TED

The way we raise animals is destructive to humans, animals and the environment, says cardiologist and entrepreneur Uma Valeti. He presents a solution that doesn't require you to give up your favorite protein-packed meals: cultivated meat, grown directly from animal cells. Reportedly some of the "most chicken-y chicken" you'll taste, Valeti envisions how such cultivated meat could save billions of animal lives, improve human health and help protect our planet.
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[@Purified-Bananas]

(Make it cheaper) + (Make it healthier) = Game over for tradicional meat

[@Purified-Bananas]

*in the long run

[@connorhighland6783]

If you can make cultivated meat cheaper than regular meat & taste better, you will take over the industrial ag market.

[@Picci25021973]

Precise fermentation and cellular agriculture are the future. The disruption of industrial ag. and intensive animal farming have begun and will gain speed following an exponential curve. Politicians will try to slow it, but they won't succeed... sheer math shows it clearly.

[@Vscustomprinting]

The future of what?

[@thijssmudde]

@@Vscustomprinting of food

[@hermitonthelake]

It may be the future the industry is trying to push on us, but it will fail, just like "impossible" meat. Cellular Agriculture cannot remove carbon from the atmosphere the way Regenerative Agriculture can. I don't know, but I'm willing to guess that it probably won't provide proper nutrients for humans either...just like impossible meat.

[@BooksForever]

@@VscustomprintingThe future of our timeline. Duh.

[@joeytuckey1517]

I'm all about this idea! It's important to outline what will be done with the agricultural land after mass adoption. Finding a way to compensate animal farms through land regeneration would be a win-win. Building condos on that land will negate the impact near cultivation will have.

[@SanthiratanMandyam]

Good to see Valeti speaking on behalf of all companies in the domain.

[@garcipat]

Is it also possible for Milk?

[@r.m8146]

It has already been done, and it's much more simple for milk. It's about to hit the shelves pretty soon. Google entry: milk fermentation lab grown: "Lab-grown dairy is made with all the same cells as traditional dairy, only it is created in a giant bioreactor rather than a factory farm. Here, a process known as precision fermentation is used, which is similar to what has been used for decades to brew beer, make insulin, and produce rennet for cheese."

[@joannot6706]

It's called precision fermentation

[@veronixawardwell8802]

This is the best news I’ve heard in a LONG time!!! Yes!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@grkuntzmd]

I know that it is plant-based, but since I tasted Impossible Burgers, I have thought that I liked them at least as much as real hamburgers. I hope you succeed in bring this to market at an affordable cost.

[@goarmysleepinthemud.]

I definitely like Impossible Burgers too. I would all for meat being replaced

[@garcipat]

it is not plant based, you are misunderstanding this. these are meet cells grown in a petry dish.

[@sachamm]

@@garcipat Pretty sure OP is referring to Impossible Burgers.

[@grkuntzmd]

@@garcipat I meant to say the Impossible Burgers are plant based. I have no issue with cell-culture grown meat.

[@ajpisharodi]

​@@grkuntzmd Thank you for clarifying at the end!

[@ayyalicia]

This felt more like an ad than a Ted Talk tbh.

[@Ribberflavenous]

It was. He even went full-on Ron Popeil with the 'wait, there's more'. Ted has gone shill lately, a sad demise to a once great platform.

[@chrysarium]

Leave it to entitled viewers to think that they know better than TED what is and what isn't a TED talk. For this particular issue it is absolutely impossible to discuss the problem without having a solution. Because people simply don't give a #### about living beings suffering as long as it not happening to them or in front of them. If you were an expert, you'd be up there giving a talk. But you're not, so you're in the ####### KZbin comment section leaving insightful little comments. I wonder what else you have done today. I'm guessing that you've been having insightful little opinions about other things, too.

[@TomNook.]

WEF Bot detected

[@Ribberflavenous]

@@chrysarium The guy shills his own company on the TED talk, no conflict of interest at all. re: living beings, I do care - about humane treatment of livestock, the poor having access to healthy food, If his solution is that good, it will make business sense and succeed. I hope he does honestly. However, did you notice he never mentioned pricing? Check his website, no place to get it. This will not be a mainstream access product, but something the elite can brag about trying at the next cocktail party. I want to hear solutions, on the ground, for the people that have food insecurity now. Oh, and the TED moniker is tarnished at best anymore, because of this kind of 'guest'. Tickets probably come with a free set of Ginsu knives.

[@hermitonthelake]

@@chrysarium 90 seconds in, this guy lies about climate change, saying animal agriculture is the "leading cause"...not even close, look it up. When they begin like this, only the people who will believe anything stick around.

[@ripleyjustice6057]

This is the future!!! So much healthier, too!😊

[@user-xw9cz8uy4g]

The future is here! It's impressive ❤

[@andycordy5190]

Great presentation. I wholeheartedly support the development of cultivated meat. Our current and near future food production systems are a horrifying mess. I live next to a dairy farm that also produces meat. I have witnessed the spraying of slurry across the pasture here, recycling the waste from the cattle feeding to grow more fodder. It's a crazy and dangerous closed cycle both for public health and animal welfare. Only one thing I had hoped to learn was missing here. What is the production stream for nutrients in this production process?

[@hetarth7056]

Totally in support of this!

[@xoRaQxo]

There is a lot of good information here. I do feel the representation of the ethical challenges that come with implementation of lab grown meats were oversimplified. There is so much more to this than weighing the value of tradition vs, or slaughter vs....

[@ajpisharodi]

Yes and it will be a long journey before this becomes common. The ethical arguments and backlash will be part of that journey.

[@OfTheGaps]

_"...the representation of the ethical challenges that come with implementation of lab grown meats were oversimplified...There is so much more to this "_ Such as?

[@xoRaQxo]

@@OfTheGaps my answer depends on whether you are genuinely inquiring/hadn't wandered that train of thought, or simply seeking debate.

[@OfTheGaps]

@@xoRaQxo I'm not really seeking debate. I am genuinely curious as to what the ethical downsides are that would come close to outweighing the upsides. I also think it feels slightly underhanded to complain that the ethical implications have not been addressed, and then not mention what those implications might be.

[@xoRaQxo]

@@OfTheGaps observation more than complaint. I'm also not referring to one side or the other, just that the arguments are numerous. Even aside from religious beliefs that inevitably have a strong opinion, there's the cost analysis. There will be economic effects that go beyond the larger whole. The costs to consume, produce, market, distribute and so on. Factors increase exponentially the longer you travel a thought path here. I'm not interested in my own report or TedTalk. I do think this matter should be brought to a full table for these discussions however.

[@jhunt5578]

Can't come soon enough. Animal agriculture is a horrific industry.

[@Ribberflavenous]

Factory farms are a horror, family farms are a part of nature. You are confusing the two.

[@Brom97]

@@Ribberflavenous family farms are a waste of land (-> rainforest) and arent able to serve the demand for meat

[@ripleyjustice6057]

That's for sure

[@jhunt5578]

@Ribberflavenous What do you mean family farms are a part of nature. Family farms are man made and seperate from nature. The overwhelming majority of farms are factors farms, this idea of the family fair you have in your head are is mostly fantasy. Plus those animals go to slaughterhouses, how nice do you think they are.

[@aceyage]

@@RibberflavenousFamily farms are not “part of nature”. Ridiculous claim. It’s almost as cruel for animals, a lot less efficient and more polluting per sq.

[@YoomarTuNoOmar]

😢What about all the baby cow serum required to grow lab meat and the hardships of making the muscular fibers have the same texture as regular meat? Have they overcome that? Are there no downsides? Is this a Ted presentation for the sake of knowledge or just and ad?

[@SystemLordNemo]

I vaguely remember that I read one scientific study about replacement for that serum. That was many many months ago. I came here to hear a report of their progress but that ad like presentation with little details was disappointing. However they seem to be more confident and; make no mistake; if they can't replace that serum this product will never succeed. So maybe they did? I need to find more information ...after a presentation form expert. :\ Sigh...

[@ajpisharodi]

If it can prevent the current mass slaughters of cows, it would still be progress. Maybe this is just a step before we can reach that level.

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

let's accelerate this please

[@TomNook.]

The top 1% wealthy and connected will still be chomping on prime beef though

[@donaldhobson8873]

Unless lab grown is healthier/tastier.

[@DVDCJW]

Just like the people who's still using fountain pen and mechanical keyboards today.

[@MrKopano1]

What about the price / cost and externalities brought by the industry itself?

[@celestialcircledance]

Goodbye Prime ribs or bone broth but seriously it sounds like a no-brainer !

[@qpstrafe]

Just wondering if It has B-12 in it, curious mind

[@A_British_woman]

My thoughts too. There are the nutrients, amino acids etc in meat. For me it's not just about taste or environment

[@r.m8146]

Awesome!

[@Boro2p]

Don't worry, most people will eat only this in few decades. It's better in everything except it is not accustomed. But how many of you live without a computer or KZbin now? Your great grand parents would be disgusted at you. The same as their ggg-grandparents would be disgusted at them. It's normal change, keep your panic down and just taste it when you have opportunity and switch when it's cheaper.

[@TheHumanRanger]

gross

[@darinherrick9224]

Yes!

[@MjMurphy777]

You presented this so well. I can’t wait to get my hands on some of this guilt free meat.

[@vividlightwellness]

There's no argument the practices in the animal ag industry are horrific. Why not change the practices in the animal ag industry rather than resorting to growing food in a lab that decades from now will be identified as the common denominator of a human health crisis? After everything that's happened in the last decade its the science I trust the least.

[@ballebaz]

I am all for your sentiment. How do you propose changing practices in animal ag without killing the animal? That last act is part of the horrific practice.

[@vividlightwellness]

My comment was more about treating food animals more humanely. I grew up on a 140 acre family cattle ranch where the animals were cared for and treated well. Grass fed beef that had only one bad day in their lives and even still it was done humanely.

[@kyokoyumi]

@@vividlightwellness Regenerative, sustainable animal farming is definitely a thing. No one loves the animals more than the farmers raising them, after all :)

[@Sig.Valter]

As long as texture, taste and proteins are there same as real meat + price is same or lower(!) I could at least give it a try.

[@martynhaggerty2294]

Did not mention comparative cost. Must be more expensive.

[@user-fk8zw5js2p]

He mentions manufacturing at scale at 9:56 and increasing efficiency a couple of times because the cost is the biggest hurdle for cultured meat right now. He mentioned reducing the cost by 99%, but what he is implying with the rest of his talk is that it is still too expensive to compete with farm raised meats.

[@Dean-ur7ng]

How to make a badminton ball like this.

[@Robolord123]

And yet.. not a single company that makes cultivated meat has bothered applying for a check by the European Health and Food authorities.

[@Vscustomprinting]

Yeah theres other problems at scale

[@garcipat]

Noble goal. I wonder if this will make meat a fine food product that is incredible expensive or straight illegal at some point.

[@sachamm]

It's unlikely to be illegal any time in the foreseeable future. Criminalizing normal behaviour is not a recipe for success.

[@doudouban]

Am I the only one who's been wondering what is the cost of cultivated meat?

[@zehragokce2131]

There is a fact that, you want to produce chicken meat that exactly same with real chicken meat because it is really good.

[@jDelestal94]

I really enjoyed it, this man is brilliant. I hope cultivated meat will be tastier and healthier too. !

[@saurahupadhyay936]

Quality of videos for TED have definitely gone bad. But this was an amazing video. We dont realize how much of environment is damaged by meat industry. People think I am eating the animal that was eating green grass, hence I am helping the environment by eating that animal. But in reality, the whole existence of that animal is purely for your eating. That animal is not a free roaming animal, he was born in a cage and lived a life of misery, and has eaten few years worth of green plants to be able to survive. This is much much better solution.

[@toymurodabduhalimov5704]

All new things always give negatives. at the beginning as people have not adapted yet

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

animal agriculture must end

[@user-eq3wi5qp2c]

Impressive

[@mikeskylark1594]

ABSOLUTE FUTURE OF FOOD!!! Excellent presentation!

[@mohitmehra2552]

Clear no. It won't have the same nutrients than the real meat. Yes, vegetarians can enjoy this.

[@ivanprasetya2534]

I say let's give it a chance.

[@jackmen4]

I’m down for veggies. This one time I was invited to an Indian wedding an the guys that made the food were cooking on the back alleys of the event, they made this Booooomb cauliflower that tasted like buffalo chicken wings. there’s lots of ways to eat vegetables and make it very delicious. But honestly I do not believe in man made chemicals and preservatives that are added to food just to make them taste like meat. Even if the expert say that these chemicals do not harm the body I know they really do.

[@donaldhobson8873]

I mean instead of growing steak with less saturated fat, why not just grow new hearts?

[@darinherrick9224]

Because it’s CHEAPER to prevent disease than treat it. And a lot of people die in surgery.

[@alexisdespland4939]

it needs to be testing in space how big and complex are the nmeatmaking labs,

[@Ribberflavenous]

You are painting animal food production with too broad a stroke and posing the factory farm as the norm. First, develop a cost effective and palatable replacement for the protein need that is not out of reach for the poor. Second, regulate the confinement of the livestock to livable and sanitary conditions - this mainly effects the factory farms. Most small local ranchers/farmers that operate on a humane basis because they have a conscience, interact with their animals and they are not fools. Stressed animals don't produce as well and they try to make it so that your animals just have that 'one bad day'. Yes, factory farms are a problem, the same as any corporation with shareholders removed from their product and focused solely on the bottom line.

[@mbergamin16]

🍻

[@Vscustomprinting]

You are refusing to acknowledge your victims. You continue to treat them as objects to own.

[@Ribberflavenous]

@@Vscustomprinting I acknowledge them as livestock, so yes they are objects that are owned. They are not human with the rights thereof. Same with pets. I do support humane treatment of pets as well as livestock - this is just good stewardship. I do not advocate you eat or believe as I do and I do not share your views. If you have a problem with meat, please don't eat it. Meanwhile ima gonna eat my cheeseburger.

[@Bythirteen]

Or...... vegetables? O.o

[@PeterFabulous]

Observation: Cultivated meat, also known as lab-grown or cultured meat, is forbidden by law in Italy.

[@hermitonthelake]

This bioreactor meat is also banned in some states in the US.

[@temanangka3820]

Wow.... Happy to hear that human can cultivate animal meat... Happy to be able to live in an incredible and amazing era!

[@-TheOracle-]

If you can't taste the strong chemical flavor of bleach in rotisserie chicken, especially in leftover chicken kept in the fridge the next day, you might want to get your taste buds checked. These days, meat can be very dangerous. Having lived in the country, we ate fresh food straight from off the farm. In the United States, our food supply chain is seriously outdated and way too slow from farm to table. Many people are perplexed by why they can't seem to satisfy their hunger. This "food noise" is often due to the fact that our food loses its nutritional value by the time it reaches our plates. You could eat all day and still not get the nutrients you need, just empty calories. This leaves us essentially starving while gaining weight. Unfortunately, poor health consequences are also inevitable in the long run.

[@mizotechx]

What about Pork? The fatty part too... That's where the money is!

[@mariaantoniettamontella9173]

bravissimo

[@lr2075]

I believe cultivated meat already exists in usa for pet food

[@kimstone4742]

Pollution...start with large factories becoming clean.. Let people eat what they want..dont force people to eat just chemicals.

[@Asain_dad]

What if you are too poor to make this grass food. or there is not enough resources to make it, what about fish.

[@mohamedgomhory2859]

Is that healthy

[@darinherrick9224]

Well meat isn’t healthy. What’s your point?

[@tikab]

amazing. can't wait to try it!

[@ericdanielski4802]

G

[@vootanical5512]

so actually，it is also the same as cultivated human meat？Jesus

[@Casualercultist]

As much as I do believe that we should look towards alternative meats, like beyond or impossible, I think we need to have stricter standards for cultivated meat, then it could be a real solution. But also cultivated meat feels a bit… iffy. The fact that you need to shape it reminds me of incredibly processed food, and despite the fact that factory farming causes antibiotic resistance, I feel like cultivated meat wouldnt be much better. The thing about antibiotics is that bacteria are the ones that need to be killed by antibiotics otherwise they spread diseases. But when meat is not in the chicken, the chicken’s immune system won’t help causing more need for antibiotics. I just think we need better technology for cultivating meat well.

[@renegaderaid]

Cultivating meat can be done in extremely controlled and sterile environments where the equipment is what gets sterilized. With the right technology you could produce meat that won't be exposed to bacteria and therefore wouldn't need antibiotics

[@user-xw9cz8uy4g]

​​@@renegaderaid, what will happen when this cultivated meat meets with oxygen and non labor environment 🤔 a lot of questions

[@neeruchauhan3783]

Climate change

[@A_British_woman]

As long as it's genuinely got all the health benefits of meat...

[@IF.YOU.HAVE.TWO.SPIRITS.URGENT]

🫣

[@Dusterman20]

I'm glad that i am hunter and I eat real meat !!!

[@neogery]

Just start selling it already, you have been talking about it for years now.

[@jotto5866]

I believe the companies making money off of selling animal meat are blocking all of the progress besides the fact that it's a industry in its child fase

[@jejesir]

its easier to call out a problem than figure out a way to implement a solution

[@ericdanielski4802]

The production is not that easy and some countries forbid it already.

[@ericdanielski4802]

​@@jotto5866Absolutely right.

Look at the ingredients list of your food bought in supermarkets its already in many mass produced food already including salad packs now

[@patricianoll1229]

😅😅😅

[@christiansoldier1547]

They ve been making it for over a year ? Whos buying it? And what is it in?

[@GnomeGninja]

They have been making it not selling it my guy. Open your ears 👂 ☺️

[@iiSilverSurfer]

Well, I would rather you tell the real story, it is 100% investment and for the sole purpose of making money, to reduce the cost of production and increase the profit margin, it is not about animals wellbeing. put lab grown meat on a wide scale in the market, and you push farming animals towards extinction in few decades, because who will raise farming animals just for fun, for thousands of years humans have been raising them for food. In few decades we will go to the zoo to see the last few cows left :)

[@onlinerando-xfr9kd44]

Anyone who believes this investor bait nonsense needs to go read Joe Fassler's journalism on the lab meat industry.

[@JeffreyIsbell]

Link?

[@onlinerando-xfr9kd44]

@@JeffreyIsbell He wrote a piece titled "Lab-grown meat is supposed to be inevitable. The science tells a different story." for The Counter. He's written a few other pieces since then for the New York Times. He links them all on his website. Should show up in a google search.

[@ArunKumar-hr6tk]

Cultivated Cannibalism 😂

[@AbhijeetMehendale]

This concept is only good for a ted talk; however, once this idea is sold to an entrepreneur, he wont care about science or saftey but will focused solely on profit, they will introduce hormones and fillers to reduce costs while increasing prices under the guise of sustainability, potentially causing harm to consumers.

[@spilo4900]

Do you know what is actually going to happen? the cultivated meat will never replace or even lower the production of the actual meat producers, which means: increasing production, more pollution and more waste. We will only have a new product to choose from....

[@hermitonthelake]

I think you're right. It may lower ever so slightly...but most likely, eventually, we will learn this bioreactor vat-meat is not nutritionally viable...just like impossible meat.

[@eklim2034]

Chicken meat that come from egg or chicken

[@VenuzLuv]

🤢🤢🤢

[@ucan1]

I will one day be a guest speaker at TED

[@VedantNaik-rg5mn]

Good luck ❤❤🎉

[@Simte]

No meat is the future. Veganism is justice!

[@mcgaugh57]

for the dead

[@Ribberflavenous]

Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

[@jhunt5578]

As a Vegan myself. You are talking nonsense. Cultivated animal products don't cause animal slaughter. It's something that can end the animal ag industry.

My cancer specialist Doctor said I must eat fresh meat for vital nutrients that plants do not have and the body still needs to maintain a healthy body so don't get fooled by fashionable bs eating trends.

[@OneaeBlack]

And Alkaline balanced.

[@EngineerPrepper]

Cultivated meat will be banned, and some states are already passing laws to ban.

[@KlaraZoom]

The USA isn’t the world and some states are banning things that don’t exist.

[@sachamm]

🤣🤣😅😅

[@aceyage]

What’s the rationale?

[@hermitonthelake]

It is already banned in 2 states.

[@sachamm]

@@hermitonthelake Swamp monsters gonna swamp.

[@keenarnia]

Short answer: No.

[@r.m8146]

Yes.

[@Ninja9JKD]

To the speaker, are you insane, evil, or simply completely mislead?

[@sachamm]

Ask yourself that.

[@hermitonthelake]

What? Vat-Meat doesn't sound appealing to you?

[@rich6485]

You will live in the pod and you will eat the bugs

[@Vscustomprinting]

Because the rich people want to keep abusing animals.. you forgot that part

[@hermitonthelake]

@@Vscustomprinting Some people MUST eat a low inflammatory diet because of medical reasons, this diet is carnivore. It has nothing to do with people "wanting to abuse animals." What an ignorant thing to say. Also, real meat contains essential fatty acids...y'know, the stuff our body needs to function properly. It can't be replaced with vat-meat or plants. Plant fats DO NOT convert well, and the phytochemicals in plants can cause gut inflammation, big time. Real meat isn't going anywhere. If you want to be an unhealthy vegetarian, be my guest. But don't come at us with this nonsense. P.S. I'm the opposite of "rich."

[@joannot6706]

No bugs, it's in the title. You had 1 job

[@marianogambetta1982]

Cultivated Meat is disgusting

[@TheArtofTheBrave]

No. Its poison.

[@ericdanielski4802]

No. It's not poison.

@@ericdanielski4802 how do u know its not poison do you have links to data for its safety and how long is your data points derived from ?

[@Moistsquelch]

But it’s a cool concept tho I mean I’m still waiting for that expanding pizza from spy kids

[@Christine-dz6wh]

It's easy to find the data and reporta but in Today's world we prefer to be spoon fed our information and would rather trust what someone claims than to actually try to educate ourselves using our own brains.

[@jhunt5578]

It's FDA approved. Conspiracy theorists in full swing in the commemnt

[@Moistsquelch]

But like we will still want dairy and eggs so there will still be farms

[@jhunt5578]

You can make dairy and eggs fromnte same process. And dairy and egg farming is horrendous to animals.

[@TheHumanRanger]

Answer = NO

No thanks

[@samuelzev4076]

Richard Branson from virgin Atlantic tried it himself and liked it very much

@@samuelzev4076 Oh yeah sure he did like they took they fake c vvd v a c c ine (saline) in front of the cameras so the doppy sheep follow lol

Young people are easily fooled into new stupid ideas sadly but that's always probably been the case so goodluck

[@samuelzev4076]

And old people cling on obsolete ideas that kill them slowly like smoking somehow makes them cool. Your point is what exactly? Ignorance is bliss? 🤣

[@mbergamin16]

Isn't this garbage already being banned in certain states already? 🙄🤷‍♂️

[@ripleyjustice6057]

No it's not banned. It's better than kill meat actually

[@hermitonthelake]

In their 2024 legislative sessions, four states - Alabama, Arizona, Florida, and Tennessee - considered legislation banning the manufacture, sale, or distribution of cell-cultured meat. Florida and Alabama both passed the legislation, and their governors signed it into law.

[@hermitonthelake]

@@ripleyjustice6057 That's what they said about impossible meat.

[@mbergamin16]

@@hermitonthelake I thought I heard about it recently, thanks Herm 🍻

[@OneaeBlack]

No. Alkaline Is.

[@KlaraZoom]

Alkaline is what?

[@OneaeBlack]

@@KlaraZoom Future Of Food.

[@Vscustomprinting]

Have you ever google the criticisms of the "alkaline diet"? Please do.

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[@BitchinStitchez]

***Question to you all- what is the difference between THIS CONCEPT and taking the actual animal, grinding it into “pink ooze” and shaping it into a McNugget???***

[@sachamm]

It turns out that most animals can feel pain in the same or very similar way that humans can feel pain. It also turns out that some people don't like inflicting pain on other sentient creatures. So "THIS CONCEPT" as you put it eliminates any inflicted pain on sentient creatures. I'd say that was a good thing, right?

[@hermitonthelake]

@@sachamm Not at the cost of your health lol. Humans evolved eating animals and some plants. Not bioreactor vat-meat.

[@sachamm]

@@hermitonthelake Ah yes, it was grown in a vat therefore it will cost you your health. That's what you call Omnivorous Logic. 👍

[@hermitonthelake]

@@sachamm You clearly have a lot to learn about nutrition. Impossible meat was supposed to be this fantastic product too...go look at the studies on the nutritional profile. I predict this may be no different. Here in the US, the minute a corporation tells me their product is "safe & affective, I know it's not.

[@sachamm]

@@hermitonthelake Impossible Burgers are unhealthy, therefore vat grown beef will always be unhealthy. Got it.

[@jejesir]

are cells living things? do they feel pain? maybe this isnt about removing pain from the equation and more just hiding it so its unseen

[@Christine-dz6wh]

I sure cells are not in the same state because it's harder to contain and torture we put inflict.

[@Moistsquelch]

You have definitely killed some bugs in your life so i mean by your way of thinking you snuffed out a mind and gave them pain beyond belief, I get being empathetic but sometimes life’s just brutal man I mean it’s just survival plus it’s a cool idea I mean instant meat sounds good but I get your hesitation

[@jhunt5578]

Cells aren't individually sentient. A cell does not have a brain. What do you think the meat that comes from animals is made out of? It's made from cells.

[@Brom97]

pls next time think before asking. to feel anything an organism needs a nervous system. meatcells are something different. there is nothing alive, that could feel anything...

[@the_master_of_cramp]

cells are living, yes but, they do not have a brain that feels anything. Cells are more like chemical machines. Pain the way we feel it only can come in higher animals with neuronal cells, and they're not cultivating neuronal cells. And even if we'd not have removed the pain (which we would), then there are still the environmental advantages, and probably health advantages.

[@ZakFromOhio]

Only if you're uneducated

[@Brom97]

sry Zak, but as long as this meat is approved to be healthy and edible its the safest, in the longterm cheapest and environmentally friendliest way to produce meat. the resources we waste because of raising animals to slaughter them are eourmous. land, water, crops...

[@Vscustomprinting]

​@@Brom97the data doesnt back this up tho. There would be alot of pollution at scale.

[@Brom97]

@@hermitonthelake I don't know where you're from. But I feel pretty safe in Europe

[@robertrafer9422]

I'll keep my grass fed steak. Farts and all.

[@sachamm]

Yeah seriously. What about the people who *like* to cause suffering to animals as part of their meal? What about them, huh?

[@r.m8146]

@@sachamm Yeah, why should we take @robertrafer9422's right to freely murder innocent creatures out of pure malice and cowardice, for no good reason? We are incomprehensibly BAD people.

[@robertrafer9422]

@sachamm if your farming anything your killing something. Every acre of corn has rodents etc. If your eating something, most likely an animal had to die. I'll keep my steak.

[@denisesousa5153]

Lmao no, thanks 😊

[@justanothergrunt9053]

Sounds like poison.

[@sachamm]

just like your comment

It is poison your right

[@justanothergrunt9053]

@@sachamm eat the fake chicken.

[@r.m8146]

@@justanothergrunt9053 I will

[@justanothergrunt9053]

@@r.m8146 good luck

[@gabimiki4932]

N O T

[@delfacto121]

NO!!

[@jrwynn49]

TED really fell off smh this is terrible

[@nipichinook]

no!

[@fletcherjacobs3688]

No. Absolutly not

[@john-ro4yb]

No