Is DAWN Dish Soap the HOLY GRAIL of Detailing products ??

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@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
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@darrenmetal3338
@darrenmetal3338 9 ай бұрын
Nope not at all
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 6 ай бұрын
U can probably put baking soda to lower the ph :)
@veils1de350z
@veils1de350z 9 ай бұрын
20 years ago , before most of the modern detailing companies existed, we used dish soap alot. Using dish soap for every wash, i saw quite a bit of clear coat failure with repeated use. But at that time, the quality and availability of various protection products wasn't great either. I will never know what exactly caused it , as the state of detailing products overall has improved dramatically maybe it isnt as important. Maybe clear coats have improved, clearly detailing products have come a long way, and heck maybe the dish soaps have different formulas today than 20 + years ago. Interesting video
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for chiming in, I agree with you and that makes sense. IMO clearcoat is pretty tough even against heat and solvents. I still recommend to use specific detailing soaps to everyone. Cheers my friend.
@diverdave4056
@diverdave4056 9 ай бұрын
sad to say ... but the clear coat on most cars was done poorly and that is why it fails ! I washed my 2001 Honda Accord for 23 years that sat outside all year long with 471,000 miles on it . I washed it with dish soap and the clear coat never failed ... until 1/2 a tree fell on it while i was driving home and TOTALED IT
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
yeah you're exactly right, Honda's are notorious for clearcoat failure even in late 2010 models. The current one aren't really good either, you get a stone chip it rust couple months later. cheers my man @@diverdave4056
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been detailing my cars for over 25 years now and there were plenty of good products available then. You’re correct, not like today though. I was young when I got into it and easily found good products. The auto parts store had plenty of soaps. That said there are still people today using Dawn because they think car soap is a scam, so maybe more did use it back then.🤷‍♂️ Anyways, it’s interesting to hear you saw more failures back then. My understanding of Dawn is that it’s too strong of a degreaser and would strip the clear coat of oils drying it out if used too much. So maybe that’s what happened. Back then clear coats were oil based and put on thicker than todays thin water based cc’s. So They aren’t better today, but the technique and prep of applying them definitely is. Protection is definitely easier to apply today, but is the Dawn washer actually using any? I figure, if they are using any it’s the cheapest stuff available or what’s been sitting in their garage for 15 years. This was interesting to me because it hits on the subject of are there too many ‘specialized’ products today. What’s actually useful and what’s not?
@derrickabare9986
@derrickabare9986 7 ай бұрын
1st time sub here. Been detailing for 40 years and a side business owner for 4 yrs . When I started in 84 alot of times dish soap was used . Never a problem. Ofcourse protection options are a whole lot different than back then . Clearcoat was just becoming a thing . Truth be told there was alot of off lable stuff being used . Microfiber wasn't a thing . Used baby diapers. Quick detailer ? Pledge . Even today one of my favorite interior cleaners is norwex powder laundry detergent. 2 table spoons to a qt of water. Cleans everything really well . Back to dawn , gyeon suggests using dish soap with their pro line ceramics .
@atalk143
@atalk143 9 ай бұрын
Right on! I used Dawn quite a bit way back in the late 90s / early 2000s and still do every now and then. A Dawn wash was part of the whole Zaino application process 😂. It does a great a job at removing crud and is fairly cheap. It is a little hard on old school wax and sealants but today's ceramics *laugh* it. The fear of Dawn is somewhat of a dramedy...the same haters are willingly and frequently throwing down some high-alkyl ph 13 or high-acidic ph 2 soaps to wash the paint. My only complaint of Dawn is that it's not as free-rinsing as traditional car soaps --- Not a big deal if you use a pressure washer but its "stickiness" can be annoying if you are hose-washing.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
Oh nice I did not know that about zaino. Very funny reference to high ph pre soaks. It comes down to people being misled. Trying to rectify whatever I can with the channel. Thank you my man, Thanks for leaving your thoughts brother cheers.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 9 ай бұрын
The detailing world is definitely getting ridiculous with some of the products these days. I’m not sure the high ph decon soaps are a good comparison though, they aren’t nearly as strong a cleaner as Dawn. Dawn is a very good and strong degreaser. It’s more of an apc than high ph soap. Since Dawn is a strong degreaser it will even eventually weaken a coating if used enough. It removes the oils from the coating, trim or clear coat if not protected. Those ‘durability’ test the YT detailers years ago showed that used enough the stronger cleaners did eventually compromise the coating. As you said, using it every now and then is the key and I agree it’s totally safe in that situation.
@utz716
@utz716 6 ай бұрын
Zaino!! Wow now there is a throwback! I found Zaino at the NY Auto Show in the very early 90s. Loved it! My dad and I would go back every year to be part of the "demo" and get our keys cleaned lol
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 6 ай бұрын
​@@seashackf1yes exactly, Dawn can pull a lot of chemicals out of the paint. Long term use will eventually show the damage. I've had family use dawn soap to wash their cars, and in about a years time it had "dirt mud" type cracking all over the paint.
@nicholash8021
@nicholash8021 5 ай бұрын
I knew Sal Zaino pretty well back in the 90's and I constantly was on forums touting his stuff. You're spot on with the Dawn pre-wash. Z5 + Z6 has the slickest surface even over today's ceramics. You can even lay a hand towel on the hood without it sliding right off.
@splicezone
@splicezone 6 ай бұрын
I have been using DAWN for 40+ years. Never has i seen any damages to my cars surface. At the end I do spray a bead maker paint protector by P&S and that is it. Good to go smooth and shinny.
@jasongraham8140
@jasongraham8140 6 ай бұрын
I've been a show car painter/bodyman for 25 years. You NEVER use dish soap to wash a vehicle unless you plan to reapply protection such as wax
@flashnmb1
@flashnmb1 6 ай бұрын
Nailed It; learned that a long time a go; strips all wax & protections from finish.
@Rabbit.760
@Rabbit.760 6 ай бұрын
Yes. I do every time and it's no problem
@joeschlepp
@joeschlepp 6 ай бұрын
perfect if you need to remove all that gunk prior to repainting.
@jeremylarson6267
@jeremylarson6267 6 ай бұрын
you're forgetting he is in canada and his water is more alkaline
@RichardsWorld
@RichardsWorld 6 ай бұрын
Wax is from 25 years ago.
@TexasSon74
@TexasSon74 6 ай бұрын
I’m a chemist. It cost less to make a car wash soap than Dawn dish soap. Marketing and sponsorship cost takes 60% of all car wash products.
@cyclemadness
@cyclemadness 6 ай бұрын
Let us know that cheap formula please.
@TexasSon74
@TexasSon74 6 ай бұрын
@@cyclemadness worked for TCI here in Texas 25 years. We made detergents for every industry thinkable. From bars of soap to aero line detergents. Formula is on a program but it’s cheap and simple.
@chrisbradley3224
@chrisbradley3224 5 ай бұрын
@@TexasSon74 Do you know why it is that most of the dish soaps leave a bit of a surfactant film it seems? I notice dish soaps impair the beading of most coatings and sealants for a bit. I noticed that bar soap (Dove) did not do that, and actually brings back the hydrophobics.
@TexasSon74
@TexasSon74 5 ай бұрын
@@chrisbradley3224 ph balance to natural additives in body soap make them filmy or not. Most dish soap ph is leveled for glass or cooking type metals or dishes to help to dry easier and degrease better.
@hksjoshua
@hksjoshua 5 ай бұрын
Hydrophilics perhaps?
@ronnieg6099
@ronnieg6099 6 ай бұрын
I worked in restaurants for over two decades. Regular old Dawn is the best dish soap out of all of them, including all the restaurant style detergents.
@m4rvinmartian
@m4rvinmartian 6 ай бұрын
Can confirm. Fill that sink with some Dawn and 150° water, and put WHATEVER in there, and in about 15 min, hit it with the high pressure, and it's clean. Never scrubbed.
@JnitraM078
@JnitraM078 6 ай бұрын
@@m4rvinmartian Yup!
@Susan70003
@Susan70003 6 ай бұрын
Dawn with the yellow duck on it?
@EdisonTardiRivera-p1x
@EdisonTardiRivera-p1x 5 ай бұрын
Yea
@EdisonTardiRivera-p1x
@EdisonTardiRivera-p1x 5 ай бұрын
youtube.com/@edisontardirivera-p1x?si=ZYK8d9XbICJhChhc
@bettyboop1524
@bettyboop1524 4 ай бұрын
I had a 2006 Scion that hadn't been washed in years. Then one day I thought I'd give it a treat and wash it. I used Dawn because I wasn't going to spend tons of money on soap. My little car looked so good, no water spots and it even had a little shine to it, I didn't even wipe it down after rinsing. What a wonderful product. I remember when I was a kid, washing a car was a fun afternoon with Dad and my brother, suddzing, spraying each other with water and the tossing of soapy rags/sponges at each other. Now one soap I purchased for my new car has a warning about wearing gloves and eye protection and referred to wet clothes as "contaminated".. What a world we live in now.
@enriqueborunda
@enriqueborunda 6 ай бұрын
I have been cleaning my wheels and tires with Dawn for a lot of years with great results all the time.
@turbotonye-4124
@turbotonye-4124 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been detailing for 20 years now. I always keep a few bottles of Dawn Powerwash (the foam sprayer) with me always. Works well for door jams where I don’t want to make a mess with the foam canon. Pretty good degreaser. 👍🏼
@Buck2901
@Buck2901 4 ай бұрын
Nothing beats Quebec's weather to test car cleaning products. Great job.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 4 ай бұрын
Hey Rob thanks for chiming in, we've got it pretty harsh here agreed. Cheers my friend
@PoBoy_Trucker
@PoBoy_Trucker 3 ай бұрын
I use Dawn as my windshield washer fluid in my semi truck. Trust me. It’s the best bug and particle cleaner on my glass window. And the cheapest. I fill up water in my washer fluid reservoir. And add several squeezes of dawn
@tnhomestead
@tnhomestead 3 ай бұрын
Going to have to try this!
@PoBoy_Trucker
@PoBoy_Trucker 3 ай бұрын
@@tnhomestead it’s great before freezing starts. Then you can’t until temperature change. But definitely. I recommend it
@Jason-ml3vs
@Jason-ml3vs Ай бұрын
I do the same thing.
@MrCrossj
@MrCrossj 9 ай бұрын
It never dawned on me to try this 😂
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
that's a pretty good one mouhaha. Cheers brother
@en1254
@en1254 9 ай бұрын
Hahahaha
@RayNLA
@RayNLA 6 ай бұрын
Pun intended?
@jspeedking
@jspeedking 6 ай бұрын
You mean “downed” 😂
@andrewgray4356
@andrewgray4356 6 ай бұрын
Its a new dawn my friend
@BetterThanNewDetailing
@BetterThanNewDetailing 9 ай бұрын
I told all my customers that after I’ve coated their car they could even use Dawn to wash their cars if they wanted to😂…it’s better than the soaps at a drive thru car wash.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
good point, cheers my friend!
@davidvolland7250
@davidvolland7250 6 ай бұрын
Are you sure about that? How would you even know?
@BetterThanNewDetailing
@BetterThanNewDetailing 6 ай бұрын
@@davidvolland7250 well two reasons ….i have 45 years of detailing experience and it’s simple chemistry. Ph level of Dawn is 9…ph levels of most car wash soaps are over 10 and they don’t get rinsed off nearly thoroughly enough…so yeah I’m sure enough.
@BetterThanNewDetailing
@BetterThanNewDetailing 6 ай бұрын
@@davidvolland7250 two reasons….one I’ve been detailing/paint correcting for over 45 years….two it’s simple chemistry…PH level of Dawn is 9, most car wash use ph levels of 10 or more for their wash. PH level of 10 or more is fine if you thoroughly rinse it off…most don’t do a good enough job of that.
@Lkmobiledetailservice
@Lkmobiledetailservice 6 ай бұрын
Won’t it just strip the coat u put on ?
@nasimwehbe8410
@nasimwehbe8410 6 ай бұрын
I use Dawn once every 6 months to completely strip the car. Then i follow up with an iron remover, clay bar, compound, polish, and wax. Yes wax, im old school. In between i use a car soap from Maguires that protects the wax. My 20 year old paint looks phenomenal.
@atrain132
@atrain132 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely nothing wrong with wax!
@nasimwehbe8410
@nasimwehbe8410 6 ай бұрын
​@atrain132 I can't tell you the crap I get from some of my friends for "not getting with the times", but there are great waxes out there. I'm not a big fan of ceramic coatings. I do ceramic coat my wheels and headlights/ tail light, but that's it.
@atrain132
@atrain132 6 ай бұрын
@@nasimwehbe8410 lol, yeah people are weird. Ceramic coatings are great, but I still use wax on some of my cars. Specifically the Soft99 Fusso Coat original formula. One of my friends professionally details his cars like me, but he still uses Nu Finish.
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 Ай бұрын
I find carbana wax the easiest to put on and take off. Very forgiving and nothing technical. Some of these newer waxes (coatings) are pain in the ass to get off.
@iggysan9480
@iggysan9480 6 ай бұрын
I have used dawn to hand wash my 1998 Toyota pickup, sold it 20yrs later rust free and original paint. Still use dawn on all my rides
@whiskey723
@whiskey723 Ай бұрын
I'm not here to advocate for Dawn or any other cleaner. I just want to comment and applaud you for washing a "real dirty" car unlike the other fake KZbin detailers on here getting paid for product endorsements but pretending like they don't. Always washing a Dusty car as proof. Bravo my friend! Bravo!!
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma Ай бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate you
@VonBluesman
@VonBluesman 6 ай бұрын
My family owned the largest detail shop in the central part of the state. Dawn liquid detergent will strip off the wax off of the car just like it gets rid of cooking oil from kitchen pans. Use an approved car soap that won’t strip the wax off.
@wickedbeardz
@wickedbeardz 6 ай бұрын
unless you want it to give you a clean base again.... then u can applay your new wax after.... maybe? just use things correctly know your equipment.
@Mojo32
@Mojo32 6 ай бұрын
Well some times "stripping" the wax and such off is exactly what we want, so that we can clean well and reapply.
@ravenmans.3228
@ravenmans.3228 6 ай бұрын
After each car wash you always want to apply a ceramic coating anyway you would know that being a detailer
@dubblekil
@dubblekil 6 ай бұрын
@@wickedbeardz the issue is that dawn isnt meant to remove wax but it can. so it some spots you can have high spots which will end up with residue and the others being good to go.
@Jpilgrim30
@Jpilgrim30 6 ай бұрын
That’s what my step dad always told me. He owned a paint and body shop.
@GigOne
@GigOne 6 ай бұрын
I routinely use Dawn to clean the wheels and wheel wells! It's superb against brake dust and road grim!
@signor_No
@signor_No 5 ай бұрын
Because it's an acid degreaser, all the acid shampoo are perfect for brake dust
@brettoberry3586
@brettoberry3586 6 ай бұрын
I'm a Miner and we use Dawn to break the surface tension of water and allow the flour gold to sink with the rest of the concentrates when processing ore. Just one drop at a time.
@Shadytribe97
@Shadytribe97 6 ай бұрын
Spot on man! I'm a intermediate hobby detailer, and I dish soap as a cheap strip car wash before I paint correct or polish/wax or seal a car. I've had a few people say "You shouldn't use that! It'll damage the cars paint". But exactly as you said MAYBE, only if you use it instead of a good car wash every single wash. But once or twice a yeah when you're literally going to either refine the finish or protect it in a day anyway, It's harmless.
@javianjohnson8746
@javianjohnson8746 2 ай бұрын
The M340i in that blue color is such a gorgeous vehicle
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 2 ай бұрын
Thank you brother, it's called San Marino Blau, cheers.
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 6 ай бұрын
It's great on heavily oxidized gel coat, like an RV. Removes a lot of the loose surface oxidation. This way you aren't clogging up pads as quickly.
@ericwright1075
@ericwright1075 9 ай бұрын
In the winter I use Dawn to wash my tires and winter rims . It 🇨🇦👍👍does a really nice job and seems to keep them cleaner longer.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
No shame in it! 🤟🤙. Cheers brother!
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
No shame in it! 🤟🤙. Cheers brother!
@jpdoc5722
@jpdoc5722 6 ай бұрын
thanks 🙏 they’ve used dawn as well for those wildlife animals that were victims of oil spill, and worked perfectly 👍
@bjjbrawler1
@bjjbrawler1 6 ай бұрын
Yes, after the Exxon Valdez disaster they were washing all the ducks in Dawn.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 6 ай бұрын
There you go, thanks for watching!
@hellomark1
@hellomark1 6 ай бұрын
Oh man, I hate to break it to you, but those critters covered in oil, most of them die. It's usually too late by the time they find them, because they've been trying to clean themselves for hours/days already and most likely ingested a bunch of it. The cleaning is a nice gesture at least. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer
@Rapture1469
@Rapture1469 6 ай бұрын
@@hellomark1 They have a new version of the commercial washing an oil covered duckling - since there was no spill that caused it, did they intentionally soak the duck to wash it for the ad?
@hksjoshua
@hksjoshua 5 ай бұрын
Yes they did that.
@joewhite917
@joewhite917 6 ай бұрын
YOU can buy Ph test kits to test the Ph of dawn
@eludethis
@eludethis 6 ай бұрын
Dang in 1994 I was 16 washing my dad's car with dawn. That's how I got into detailing lol. Obviously I've moved away from it. Then this video pops up. This may be a good option for degreasing, road grime and salt.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 6 ай бұрын
There you go, thanks for watching!
@dansanders340
@dansanders340 6 ай бұрын
Pan the organizer explains that the chemistry is meant to be safe for ceramic plates and other hardier materials dishes are made from, relative to car materials. They're cheaper and stronger since they don't have as many hoops to jump through to make a material safe product. I'd only use dawn for windows, or in a pinch as a one time use. It's not even proper to use automotive degreaser long-term as a prewash, and I use that as my snowfoam in a pinch, lol. If you can't tell I'm picky, and suffer from intellectualism causing me to find every reason to have a logical 'proper way' to do things, lmao
@jccies5763
@jccies5763 6 ай бұрын
At about the same time I was using Palmolive lol.
@michaelkraus4135
@michaelkraus4135 6 ай бұрын
@@dansanders340 HILARIOUS..............DAN !
@wtfobiden
@wtfobiden 6 ай бұрын
A Lil dawn will do ya
@jeffclarke5497
@jeffclarke5497 2 ай бұрын
Thankyou for bringing some reality to the detailing product fantasy land!
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for tuning in!
@Malachor8091
@Malachor8091 4 ай бұрын
Nothing gets people fired up as much as dawn soap.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 4 ай бұрын
Nail on the head, thank you brother, probably the best comment so far! Cheers ✌️
@mjw710mjw8
@mjw710mjw8 6 ай бұрын
In years past I always used liquid TIDE to wash my car and once a year I would use DAWN to basically strip away everything on the paint and the use a good paste wax.
@truckskate9677
@truckskate9677 5 ай бұрын
You gotta do that every month lol. Thsy wax coating last about 2 weeks tops if that. One year later they coating is long long gone
@applepicker9591
@applepicker9591 2 ай бұрын
I used dawn since I bought my 2014 accord and the paint is still mint up to now. Dawn is good for removing road salts mixed in snow during winter better than all branded car soaps chemicals I’ve tested. Of course my car gets waxed and buffed after every Dawn treatment.
@Ally.MacMillan
@Ally.MacMillan 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, very interesting, must admit that's something I've never even thought about myself. I don't think we have Dawn in the UK so have never seen any of the discussions on it.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
Glad you liked the experiment. You guys in europe have similar dish soap try it once and let me know!
@BeigeVarsity
@BeigeVarsity 9 ай бұрын
I think Dawn goes by the name of Fairy in the UK and Europe
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
thank you!@@BeigeVarsity
@nelsoncorrection4015
@nelsoncorrection4015 6 ай бұрын
I use dish soap to remove all waxes from paint before I start a Paint correction. And rinse it again if im applying ceramic coating
@kimnach
@kimnach 9 ай бұрын
I used Dawn when I first started driving in '77 and continued to use up until about 10years ago. Never had an issue with my Mustang II, then a 79 camaro, followed by an 88 IROC. I did switch to dedicated car wash soaps for all our cars.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
thank you! 🙏
@dudeguykach
@dudeguykach Ай бұрын
i washed my black truck with dawn dish soap then spray wax with Maguire's for the last year. It looks pretty good.
@rlester39
@rlester39 6 ай бұрын
I use dawn to wash my car and then clay bar it before paint correction it works great for that.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 6 ай бұрын
right on!
@3100fps
@3100fps 3 ай бұрын
Great post. find a lot of the other detailing sites very confusing because I think their real motivation is selling services and products.
@nomorenonsense
@nomorenonsense 2 ай бұрын
My dad and I have used dish soap to wash our cars for 20 years. We have rust free cars that are close to 20 years old. These cars have been in snow and salt since new. Of course the car detailing companies and lemmings are going to tell you that you need to spend $100s on special soaps.
@jayd6607
@jayd6607 6 ай бұрын
Dawn and Tide laundry detergent were my grandaddys go to car cleaning kit. Dawn on car. Tide on the wheels and tires. The tide did a nice job of keeping his white walls and white lettering clean. He also used Nu Finish wax religiously. But back then you could probably only get it or Turtle Wax. That was just his little formula he used to keep the family vehicles looking nice. I dont ever remember any of it causing a problem and they all looked great for the life of the vehicle. Ive got his last car a 2000 Pontiac Bonneville SSEI that looks brand new with the exception of the reflector on the trunk lid which you cannot buy anymore because no one produces it any longer.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 6 ай бұрын
Love reading your story thank you!
@jayd6607
@jayd6607 6 ай бұрын
@Detailing_Dogma LOL sorry for the graphic novel I wrote.
@jayp9450
@jayp9450 9 ай бұрын
It’s a degreaser just like super clean and purple power. It clean wheels really good. Great share!
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
hey my man thanks for chiming in, be careful there those are not comparable, Dawn is still a mild soap PH 9, super clean and purple power are straight up degreaser much more caustic and PH above 12/13 reallt powerful stuff, you shouldn't compare them to Dawn. Cheers be safe
@jayp9450
@jayp9450 9 ай бұрын
@@Detailing_Dogma oh for sure I cut super clean 4:1 rims and 10:1 everything under the kitchen sink interior beside the navigation screen I use water. I spray my latex gloves and massage the product in on the turn signals. You right tho bro super clean full strength can wreck certain things. I never used purple power lol
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 9 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@jayp9450be careful with Super Clean. It’s not as metal friendly as the YT detailers stated when they were pushing it some years ago. Especially on Aluminum where it can corrode or etch it. SC even warns about it now when they didn’t then. The detailing world kind of got scammed by them. Purple Power is even worse. Better off to use a metal safe degreaser like Simple Green Pro HD (the purple stuff) or WD40 specialist degreaser which are specifically made to be safe on all metals.
@jayp9450
@jayp9450 9 ай бұрын
@@seashackf1 I appreciate the feed back my brotha. 🫡
@dicopilico
@dicopilico 5 ай бұрын
🚙 Is it really possible to wash the engine without any protection covers and not end up with electronic damages? I'm really curious about this technique! I own a 2014 BMW X3 and I'm so afraid to try it! Would love to hear your thoughts on this!
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 5 ай бұрын
Hey man, it's up to you to decide, in my opinion it's 99.9% safe. Modern engine are sealed to the bones and everything in there is built to live in every conditions including washer with hose or water. Just keep your distance and keep moving your gun, agitate with detailing brushes your degreaser or APC. I dont see any problem. It's the same technique dealers and detailer use for decades. Do your research but it's the engine bay has no modification I wouldnt worry one bit. Using common sense also goes a long way. Thank you brother cheers ✌️
@brucebaber3172
@brucebaber3172 3 ай бұрын
i was a detailer for 25 years. First thing you tell your customers is to not use "Dish soap"! It cuts grease and WAX ! Don't strip your car with this crap unless you want to reseal/wax your car eery time.I've always told people to use 'Baby Shampoo"! It cleans and doesn't remove any wax or sealer. Also great for carpet cleaning, because it smells good afterwards.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 24 күн бұрын
check this out I debunked the myth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooCZknaIZZmWoJI
@liquidsmokemustang1537
@liquidsmokemustang1537 4 ай бұрын
Looks like Dawn did a good job. One tip I would share for how you are doing the contact wash is to only move the microfiber mitt in one direction. Preferably front to back on all painted surfaces. This eliminates making any ‘swirl’ micro scratches. When you’re ready for any paint correction, straight micro scratches are much easier to remove than swirling ones.
@jonathanmolina3529
@jonathanmolina3529 6 ай бұрын
I had a neighbor that used to wash his car with dish soap. I told him that wasn't a good choice because dish soap is a degreaser and will damage the clear coat with time. He told me he has always done it and it looks good. Not very long after that his car was full of clear coat damage patches
@megaman010391
@megaman010391 6 ай бұрын
Soap does not damage your car the sun definitely does. Snow and other factors will also damage your car. Salt etc
@jonathanmolina3529
@jonathanmolina3529 6 ай бұрын
@megaman010391 Where I live there is no snow so no salt. Dish soap definitely damages your car. The clear coat's life is oils. Dish soap is a degreaser which dries up your clear coat with time. I've seen it happen plus I am an experienced auto detailer.
@ragama623
@ragama623 6 ай бұрын
​@jonathanmolina3529 dawn's ph is only slightly higher than most car soaps and its certainly not high or low enough to damage the clear coat And people saying dawn will strip everything from the car's surface isnt true. Waxes and sealants these days are really strong and dawn wont do anything to them. Just watch project farm of youtube whwre he tested a bunch of waxes / water repellants. It takes a lot of washes to get rid of them. Clear coat damage is mostly from the sun. You mention it doesnt snow in your area which means its provably sunny every day
@jonathanmolina3529
@jonathanmolina3529 6 ай бұрын
@@megaman010391 You have to remember that using dish soap will strip all the protection your paint has leaving exposed. The only way you could use dish soap and still protect the paint would be waxing the car after every wash. Let say you wash your car every week. Are you going to wax your car 4 times a month?
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 6 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanmolina3529 don't forget dish soap has hydrophobic and hydrophilic properties. So it will also grap or in this case "strip" chemicals from the paint that aren't oily. So plasticizers, antioxidants, etc..... I've had family ruin their paint with dish soap.........cracks all over.
@Scotty_in_Ohio
@Scotty_in_Ohio 6 ай бұрын
It's always been thought that to "strip" waxes and most sealants you'd use dish soap / washing up liquid - I use a squirt of it (actually generic dish soap) if I'm doing a wash and going to re-wax or seal afterwards. I also use Purple Power Vehicle wash which is even more cost effective. Again if I'm going to re-apply I don't really care if it's going to "strip" the previous stuff off - I'm looking for max clean with min contact... Honestly for most in between washes a good car soap isn't much more expensive and adds back in some level of protection...
@13christbane
@13christbane 6 ай бұрын
car wash soap offers 0 protection compared to dawn
@cmdrdredd
@cmdrdredd 6 ай бұрын
@@13christbanedawn has no protection. My god these comments are so dumb. Dawn pulls the wax and sealants OUT it leave a film behind that doesn’t allow wax or sealants to stick.
@egomaster06
@egomaster06 6 ай бұрын
I have been saying for years Dawn is the best all around cleaner for cars, house/business carpets, vinyl, kitchen walls and floors.
@flashnmb1
@flashnmb1 6 ай бұрын
One caveat; strips all wax or protection
@CL-en8nx
@CL-en8nx 5 ай бұрын
Both my Tacoma and Corolla need a coat of wax so it seems ill be doing a dawn wash soon, followed by an iron decon and then a sealant, thanks for the video.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 5 ай бұрын
happy detailing and thanks for watching!
@kxld03
@kxld03 9 ай бұрын
Could be a good prewash. Great stuff
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
Thank you my man as usual! Cheers
@dannydaugherty5702
@dannydaugherty5702 26 күн бұрын
I’ve detailed my own cars for 40 years! When I first started out there wasn’t many alternatives to wash 🧼 your car! So Yes I used Dawn / Joy dishwashing soup but I always added some wax or other protection. I say I would still use it but maybe only if I planned on waxing or ceramic coating afterwards 👍👏
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 24 күн бұрын
Right on!
@Eric-fz7on
@Eric-fz7on 6 ай бұрын
The problem with dawn is it leaves a film that hard to rinse off.
@dgeldmacher55
@dgeldmacher55 6 ай бұрын
That's exactly what it does. And people mistake that for their wax being stripped. The wax is still there. The film is preventing the wax from doing its job. Like water beading. Its a fact that most people don't understand.
@michaeldrust4322
@michaeldrust4322 Ай бұрын
That's definitely something I'm gonna start playing around with... maybe adding it to my soaps
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, happy detailing. ✌️✌️
@13Mo2
@13Mo2 9 ай бұрын
I knew someone who swore by Sunlight Laundry detergent for washing their vehicles.
@jdsolberg7613
@jdsolberg7613 4 ай бұрын
Whenever I have a K&N Air Filter that needs cleaning, it gets submerged in a bucket of water generously mixed with Dawn for about fifteen minutes. Shake it in the bucket and rinse.
@darylfortney8081
@darylfortney8081 6 ай бұрын
Why do you rinse bottom to top? Thought top to bottom was the understood best way.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 6 ай бұрын
Hey Daryl, That way I can keep an eye where I've been with the pressure washer by looking at the foam remaining.
@cmdrdredd
@cmdrdredd 6 ай бұрын
You are doing it right. This is bad advice all around and one of the absolute worse videos on detailing I’ve ever seen.
@georgeg.5763
@georgeg.5763 6 ай бұрын
Dawn was the soap they used on birds that got oil soaked with crude oil. I remember their commercial, it cuts right through petroleum products. Paint and clear are Petroleum products. I definitely never wash in direct sun light much less on a hot day. I've used Dawn once in a while, Palmolive too to cut down dirt contaminants and wax to get a super clean start on waxing and protectant right after rinsing and drying.
@mtbrdude
@mtbrdude 5 ай бұрын
Dawn doesn't rinse clean. It leaves a residue behind. Just be aware of that if you're planning on putting any sort of protection on top. Source: I'm a professional painter. I use Dawn to help prep cabinets for repainting and always wipe with solvents to remove any final residue.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 5 ай бұрын
Good point! Thanks for the tip brother.
@freddixon2902
@freddixon2902 6 ай бұрын
Back in the seventies we used dish soap to strip off wax and embedded dirt before using rubbing compound. It made applying and removing the compound easier and you could get to polish and waxing sooner.
@broccolihart1
@broccolihart1 6 ай бұрын
Wow, you said zaino....that's old school
@DC-zp2iq
@DC-zp2iq 9 ай бұрын
ummm, merci pour le video Francois, another good one for sure, good to know about it's Ph level too. Cheers from Edmonton,Alberta
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
Merci thank you my friend as usual.
@desertfoxaz97
@desertfoxaz97 6 ай бұрын
I have used the Dawn 3x Silver on the paint and the engine as a degreaser. It worked great on both as a cleaner but it does strip all moisture out of everything. So I used a spray wax on the paint and a spray protectant on the engine and my 2003 low mileage Lexus ES300 looks almost brand new. I am trying to figure out what to put on the tires that is not a dust magnet or that super shiny stuff.
@BigmanBoo718
@BigmanBoo718 6 ай бұрын
Dawn has been used to clean 🦆 after The Valdez oil spill back in the day. I use it on my truck and cars I had.
@AnderZ312
@AnderZ312 5 ай бұрын
For prep washes I like to do a normally foam cannon foam, super high surfactants, then add a good amount of dawn to give it that umph, but when I use dawn I'm doing a reset, trying to strip all silicones and waxes that I can, definitely not for regular maintenance. Absolutely it has replace all of my seemingly niche "ceramic prep wash" soaps, dawn doesn't touch the ceramic so its perfect for the 6mos reup to keep the coating hydrophobic.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 5 ай бұрын
I like your style, thanks for watching ✌️
@Greg_P611
@Greg_P611 3 ай бұрын
I’m a detailer now for 10 years. Dawn is go to soap for washing in the sun. It leaves a film behind to prevent water spots. That’s why your dishes never have spots on them.
@dsugi9825
@dsugi9825 3 ай бұрын
Hi Greg do you usually spray dawn foam and rinse ? Or spray foam and kinda scrub them ?
@robert5
@robert5 6 ай бұрын
My problem when he did the door I could not really tell any difference between the door he sprayed dawn on vs the rear door with just power wash spray. Could it be there is no difference? spraying on soap does nothing?
@robincortez
@robincortez 6 ай бұрын
I used dawn soap before to wash my car and works great! The only detail is that after that you need to wax your car again because the soap wash out any wax in the paint and the metal fills like a clean dish after you dry it, overall is a great grease cutter and good to remove bugs in the front.
@matsudakodo
@matsudakodo 6 ай бұрын
It's been shown that dish soap doesn't strip protection products unless you repeat 1-2 dozen times. Check Forensic Detailing.
@13christbane
@13christbane 6 ай бұрын
ffs it does not strip wax. and if it did that would be a good thing. wax builds up. you should not use it. use polish.
@HilltopZombieShop
@HilltopZombieShop 2 ай бұрын
I use Dawn on my Harley and Pledge to shine. Looks great.
@hunterphfr
@hunterphfr 6 ай бұрын
It works well. As long as you want to take your car to Stage Zero and start all over again from the base layer and work up.
@difflocktwo
@difflocktwo 6 ай бұрын
what is stage zero?
@gtileo
@gtileo 6 ай бұрын
Considering Geon tells you do a Dish soap wash to prep the paint for their coatings after polishing to get all the oils off, I think it's safe enough to use as a part of a decon wash. Helps break up all that road grim. I'm not sure if it'll be as good as some higher ph soaps like Bilt Hamber, but it's cheap and it'll do a better job then a ph neutral shampoo
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 6 ай бұрын
Exactly right about Gyeon! Everything with moderation should do just fine. Cheers man thanks watching.
@javigarcia3823
@javigarcia3823 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. A lot of detailers on KZbin are just pushing products
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
I think some are just regurgitating what they heard without testing the stuff but you're right. I will obviously showcase product to tell a story but im not gonna mislead people. Cheers my friend
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 8 ай бұрын
They all are...total liars.
@mandyupr
@mandyupr 8 ай бұрын
exactly
@frankbenavidezakakid7734
@frankbenavidezakakid7734 6 ай бұрын
Hell ya brother these youngsters push all those products and Dawn doses it all and for a cheaper price
@mdkk
@mdkk 4 ай бұрын
i spray the dawn power wash on the dry car and then just hose it all off, seems to work very well with very little effort or scrubbing
@frope01
@frope01 6 ай бұрын
I fill a foaming dispenser with Dawn as hand soap in my bathroom. Only a very small amount is needed per hand wash. Lasts for months. I would use as car wash if I had nothing else.
@beri232
@beri232 4 ай бұрын
I use Dawn for everything! Cleans jewelry extremely well also!
@papotuto74gr59
@papotuto74gr59 6 ай бұрын
Swan is the best dish soap plus is the only soap detergent to clean the animals after any oil disaster.
@GarryMelnyk
@GarryMelnyk 6 ай бұрын
I use Dawn only to wash my car before waxing in spring. Spray 9 is a good product to use on tires before soaping them down.
@Rabbit.760
@Rabbit.760 6 ай бұрын
When i wanna know about a product, i go straight to the data sheet. Dawn has the same protective polymers as car wash. It wont hurt anything more than car soap does
@flashnmb1
@flashnmb1 6 ай бұрын
It will STRIP all protective finishes or wax on all surfaces.
@Rabbit.760
@Rabbit.760 6 ай бұрын
@@flashnmb1 good. Saves me money on have to buy clean slate and there's way better waxes that don't have to be applied by hand anymore. Sio2 spray wax/drying aid is a better protectant and lasts way longer. Spray the car while wet and dry it
@JQ3GT
@JQ3GT 6 ай бұрын
I've been using Dawn for years to clean tires and wheels. I put it on undiluted straight to the tire brush though. I use it on the entire car when I'm intending on stripping the wax off.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know, cheers!
@briand.1694
@briand.1694 2 ай бұрын
I mix Dawn with Simple Green Degreaser for an awesome tire/wheel cleaner.
@imJustTomy
@imJustTomy 9 ай бұрын
Hy. This is the first vid i saw as someone uses only dawn to clean the car and it is interesting. Keep up the good work. (btw i don't wanna be a jerk, but if you have a 1l foam canon and you put 100ml of solution in it, that is 1:9, not 1:10😅)
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
You're right 1:9 haha! I still hear dawn will remove clear coat so I thought this would be interesting too! Cheers buddy and thank you.
@donc89
@donc89 2 ай бұрын
I thought 1:10 meant 1 out of 10 dilution??
@luigidicarp9521
@luigidicarp9521 3 ай бұрын
My coworker been ising dawn dishsoap everyweek for the last 7 years. Never put wax/ceramic sealant. Still shiny,clean and looks good but if you inspect it closely, it has lots of swirl on the clearcoat. Does it peel off clearcoat? No.
@babartahir9004
@babartahir9004 6 ай бұрын
That’s some thick ass foam 😮!!!
@michael-ev5fk
@michael-ev5fk Ай бұрын
Good job. I've been using Dawn dish soap on my wheels vice exspensive car chemicals for years now, cleans well, no problems. If Dawn can really be used to clean crude oil off waterfowl feathers without injuring birds it should be safe on wheels.
@kyfisher3662
@kyfisher3662 7 ай бұрын
For anyone in AUSTRALIA, 'Dawn' is called 'Fairy' its sold at coles and wollies, and yes its the same company and chemicals.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 7 ай бұрын
thank you for chiming in ✌️
@longstrangetrip3535
@longstrangetrip3535 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if cascade rinse aid would work in the final rinse in helping eliminate water spots.
@Stainlessautos
@Stainlessautos 9 ай бұрын
I never understood why everyone gave dawn, or any dish soap, a bad name, outside of those marketing their car shampoos. There’s nothing really wrong with it aside from not rinsing as pure as some other products. I would say it looks like it did well as an inexpensive prewash, and is definitely more environmentally friendly than presoaking with an apc or degreaser.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
agreed, it's did great. Shouldn't be long term issue but obviously I still gather towards dedicated car care products. Cheers brother thank you
@seawatchmakers
@seawatchmakers 6 күн бұрын
Dawn is great for stripping off all wax . I use to use dish cleaner on my mother's car when I was a kid back in the mid sixty's
@darrenmetal3338
@darrenmetal3338 9 ай бұрын
Many of those 'horror stories'' about dawn (or any other dish soap for that matter) are brought into the world by the companies who try to sell their own products. My great grandfather and grandfather were both in the car business and all they used was dish soap. Of course a lot has changed products, chemicals etc. There's nothing wrong with using it as long as you rinse your car well and wax it. I've seen cars which were washed with dish soap for over 20 years or more. No dullness oxidation or what so ever.
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
agreed. Cheers my man
@simoncote6648
@simoncote6648 7 ай бұрын
And use vim to polish!
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 7 ай бұрын
be careful VIM has bleach depending on the version you get. I can make that happen a on a junk panel eventually thanks!@@simoncote6648
@synaptik111
@synaptik111 4 ай бұрын
Nice! What blower did you use to dry your engine bay?
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 4 ай бұрын
the basic cordless EGO Blower! Glad to have you on the channel
@synaptik111
@synaptik111 4 ай бұрын
Awesome - Thanks @@Detailing_Dogma!
@bjjbrawler1
@bjjbrawler1 6 ай бұрын
Back in the day I used to use Dawn before polishing with Zymol. Then carnuaba wax... worked great for me. If it was just a maintenance wash i used to use Turtle wax zip wax soap.
@999Joseph
@999Joseph 6 ай бұрын
I used dawn and it cleans my car and leaves it looking fresh every times
@marcoibarra4570
@marcoibarra4570 6 ай бұрын
Just add new wax just in case so it don’t fade
@robertgrancich6172
@robertgrancich6172 4 ай бұрын
I use Dawn only as a prep to full wax/polymer re-coat.
@robertjohnson-454
@robertjohnson-454 6 ай бұрын
I’ve always used Wesley’s white wall cleaner in my tires which used to work excellent but I’m not sure it’s as good now since it was bought out by Blue Coral. I used to use Dawn on my cars until like you say was said to remove the wax coating.
@edgarvaca9238
@edgarvaca9238 6 ай бұрын
Been using dawn in foam cannon pressure washer since I got my 2014 limited F150
@Pedroluvslupe
@Pedroluvslupe 9 ай бұрын
So is not true that it damage the paint, right? It might streetstrip waxes,and sealant right?
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
when common sense is used like I said in the conclusion part! Cheers
@Pedroluvslupe
@Pedroluvslupe 9 ай бұрын
@@Detailing_Dogma how often can I use this?
@Detailing_Dogma
@Detailing_Dogma 9 ай бұрын
@@Pedroluvslupe hard to tell, I haven't used it on regular basis my recommendation is still using car detailing shampoos for regular maintenance washes.
@matsudakodo
@matsudakodo 6 ай бұрын
It does not strip waxes or sealants.
@Pedroluvslupe
@Pedroluvslupe 6 ай бұрын
@@matsudakodo then why nobody wants to use it I don’t see any sense to buy soaps on the market very expensive expensive
@Mashedtaders
@Mashedtaders 25 күн бұрын
I've always used Dawn before applying wax.
@o3nisoaso3
@o3nisoaso3 6 ай бұрын
From like 2000-2015 like 20 of my car friends and i would use dawn as an initial wash to get the grease and oil type dirt off the bottoms of the car, it suds up so much that you will rinse 2-3x longer if you don't watch the amount you're using. Then we proceeded to detail the cars normally
@Christ-is-King-
@Christ-is-King- 2 ай бұрын
What kind of power washer? Better yet, do you have a rig rundown video?
@marksreviewsandrants8554
@marksreviewsandrants8554 3 ай бұрын
We used to use dish detergent all of the time in the 80's and before,our cars were clean,I remember mostly using Joy detergent.
@owenjohns6301
@owenjohns6301 3 ай бұрын
Shout out to the kirkland microfibers. Very good towels.
@donnovicki9771
@donnovicki9771 6 ай бұрын
Before I polished my truck I gave it the full Dawn treatment because I knew it would strip everything off the truck.
@FurryMLG
@FurryMLG 4 ай бұрын
Dawn still is what most Wheel Dealers recommend for cleaning wheels. Still love my Citrus Cleaner simply because of the smell, plus it works on carpets too!
@robf2403
@robf2403 6 ай бұрын
I've tried a plethora of mixtures to find the perfect strip wash. Dawn dish soap is the truth. On recent or botched wax or protectant jobs, it may take two or three applications but always gets the job done.
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