Is Deshrouding A GPU Still Worth It? RTX 4090 P12 Max Deshroud Mod

[@SAVIARs]

You have overlooked an important concept: masking. By simply placing fans on a shroud, the effect is not fully realized. If you apply a masking band to cover the fans and heatsink, you will observe a significant improvement. This ensures that airflow is directed between the heatsink fins rather than being dispersed around them.

[@TheSnake0444]

Thats such an important factor nd its actually true, he should have at least try that.

[@augustinvaclavik6282]

Yep, apparently quick video without any deeper thought

[@DegustoDelSol]

Another aspect, is the fan rotation, I think the fans are interfering on 100% speed due to te pressure they give, GPUs now have counter rotating fan and I think it may be for that, but don't quote me on that, just thinking out loud

[@wilkuuu4016]

No, he doesnt overlook. If the heatsink was in the Turbo style, then yes. Masking the one that output heat into case will make GPU cook.

[@DegustoDelSol]

@@wilkuuu4016 Spoko Wilku :) tak tylko rozkminiam ;)

[@4Core100]

Scenrio Anyway, people were usually deshrouding because of noise, not because of temps. Noctua fans run definitelly smoother than fans on GPU shrouds.

[@analogicparadox]

To be fair any 120mm will run at lower speeds and noise compared to a thin 90mm

[@Astrothunderkat]

nah, arctic accelero on my 275 and 480 because OC and temps. evga clc 120 on my 980ti because OC and temps

[@wolfwilkopter2231]

it always a combo of noise and temp. not only can you run those 120 or 140mill fans much slower, but they also push way more air and have higher pressure, so that the amounts stay the same or still increase, even at lower rpm, resulting in lower or about same temps, while having lower noise as a wanted side effect.

[@oktc68]

My last 2 GPU's have been by MSI (RTX 2070 Gaming Z & 4070Ti Gaming X Trio) both have been impressive for their cooling and quiet operation. The 4070Ti is particularly good rarely exceeding mid 50's °C or a 70°C hotspot. My case has good airflow. The system isn't audible over my normal listening volume thru stereo bookshelf speakers. I think manufacturers have got the cooling performance very well optimised for some of their products at least.

[@amyn227]

Exactly.

[@zetter5888]

Heatsinks so big nowadays that you can fit 3 120mm fans on them 😂. I remember deshrouding and struggling to put 2 120s on my 1080ti.

[@Reirainsong]

2x 140mm Noctua here. 7900 XT is a big boy.

[@trulsrohk1]

I really want some madlad manufacturer to make one that just takes 3 standard 120s off the bat. With a fan adapter

[@theomeneboode3468]

Yup, u right. My old 3090 has a deshroud mods with noctua fan ahah

[@sagartran]

My old asus strix 1080ti barely fitted 2 noctua fans. The noise and temps after that were unmatched.

[@marxerr]

i was able to fit 3 120 lian li infini fans. Beautiful, silent and amazing temps.

[@arutezza]

just having the p12 fans looks way better than 90% of gpu shrouds nowadays, Modern shrouds make them look like childrens toys

[@92kosta]

Especially this Zotac one, along with the Palit diamond-encrusted one. Hate the look of those things!

[@arutezza]

@@92kosta recent ones ive seen is the asrock phantom gaming and taichi radeons

[@astanisystems]

Sapphire Nitro+ looks minimalistic and really good in my opinion. I just wish they offered more colors for the shroud, such as white, black, silver, chrome, or brushed aluminum silver.

[@athmaid]

​@@astanisystemsshame Sapphire only makes AMD. Although one could argue that Zotac is basically their Nvidia counterpart (afaik Zotac's parent company PC Partner partly owns Sapphire)

[@astanisystems]

@@athmaid Yeah. I also like what XFX and MSI are doing, especially XFX. XFX makes really clean and modern GPUs, and they're usually the best value.

[@mrajewicz]

There is no point in deshrouding a card that runs at 59 degrees from the factory. Please deshroud something that runs hot, like an overclocked reference Radeon 7900 XTX. Check how many decibels can be shaved off by replacing the stock fans with Arctic fans while keeping hotspot tempterature at constant 90 degrees.

[@MadridistaFrieren]

Reference XTX have some problem with the vapor Chamber according to der8auer

[@potatorigs2155]

@@MadridistaFrieren that's was a limited to the first batch run where you've been ?

[@MadridistaFrieren]

@@potatorigs2155 not really, mu friends just bought a XTX few months ago (January). He return it a few days later cause of the Same problem der8auer found. Now he got a 4080 super lol

[@potatorigs2155]

@@MadridistaFrieren your friend is unlucky and should buy a loterie ticket this is a small batch issue on the release of reference model.

[@MadridistaFrieren]

@@potatorigs2155 lol why would he buy a Lottery ticket, his a muslim it's absolutely haram lol.

[@EnergeticTK]

I think deshrouding is way more worth it in an ITX case, because the card becomes thicker they can draw air directly from the outside into the case, instead of using the warmer case air to cool itself.

[@STSYT]

Definitely. Or at least very often. Still had to try this though

[@EnergeticTK]

@@STSYT do you plan on revisiting this in an itx case? 👀

[@thias1]

Also length. Deshrouding makes my XFX Merc 319 fit length-wise in an A4-H2O.

[@account_under_maintenance]

Hey 🙂 I wanted to know the best AMD processor to take for a 4060Ti to avoid bottleneck and have the best possible performance in AM4 and also in AM5 (I play in 1440p)? (Let no one judge my choice of GPU, I want an NVIDIA I know that an AMD would be less expensive and with better performance.) ​@@STSYT

[@superpork1superboy771]

@@account_under_maintenance a Ryzen 5 5600 should be fine for a 4060 Ti at 1440p, and for AM5 the 7500f is an option, however with both of these CPUs you're likely bottlenecked by the graphics card at 1440p.

[@CheeseTruffles]

I deshrouded my Ventus 3x 4080 and replaced the 3 90mm fans with a pair of NF-a12x25s. I got similar results in that the cooling performance was actually slightly worse under heavy loads (probably because having one less fan meant less of the heatsink had air flowing through it), but the trade off was it being significantly quieter.

[@STSYT]

Makes sense. I guess a third of the card was left fan-less in your case. Still interesting for the noise though

[@mr.electronx9036]

i replaced my ventus with 140mm instead of 120mm works fine

[@ffwast]

You should obviously be using 140mm fans.

[@CheeseTruffles]

@@ffwast the card’s heatsink is practically exactly 120mm wide, so 140mm fans would overhang the edge quite a lot. Besides, the 120mm ones still cover about 80% of the heatsink. I used a mounting bracket I got off Etsy that only supported 120s anyway

[@NMusic42]

I recently deshrouded my Palit RTX 3080 12 GB with 2 P14 Max using some zip tes. The card was hot as hell since the begining and was constantly hitting 105 hotspot and ~80C after less than a year of usage (it was undervolted all the time; the case is Enthoo Pro 2 with all 14 fans installed and fans speeds are bounded to GPU and CPU temps; the room temp is usually 23C or lower). At first I replaced just the thermal paste, that solved the hotspot issue, but card was hot and loud anyway, just a bit cooler. After deshroud it became way cooler and more quite. Now my PC is almost inaudible under heavy GPU load.

[@STSYT]

Happy to hear you found a solution. I had similar stuff happen to my Palit/gainward cards. Gainward less, but palit was always kinda hotter and louder compared to the competition

[@TheRealName7]

You should try slapping some ptm7950 on that core. Trust me Ptm7950 is far superior than thermal paste. I dropped 10°+ hotspot opening my new from factory 7800xt and then applying the ptm on It, well worth it imo. Now all the fans stay quiet. Just make sure u get PTM from Honeywell as they have good quality standards for their ptm7950

[@NMusic42]

@@TheRealName7 I have it on my GPU, didn't make any changes from TF7 I used before At least it shouldn't get high hotspot delta so quick

[@selectthedead]

@@STSYT Hey STS, from a Fluid and thermodynamic point of you, the fans are less important, but forcing the Air through the finns. You already have 3 bottom intake fans. You could try to either make a shroud around the card that seals it off against the motherboard and case walls or you could build a duct from those bottom fans and feed the airflow into the heatsink with the duct. Also seal the big gabs between the fin stacks should also help. If you have stattic preasure optimized fans would be best in this case. Optimum Tech has shown it works wonders! Would be cool if you could evovle deshrouding to something new

[@X_irtz]

The 3000 series higher end cards are absolute power hogs, i can attest to this with my 3070 Ti, it gets pretty hot sometimes, even with an undervolt...

[@bahadrto]

That arctic fan noise isnt because of fans but because of air going through heatsink if you would guide the airflow and cover it around like original fan does, it should be colder and quiter

[@marko0marko0marko01]

How could I do that? What could I use to cover it?

[@xcal99999]

I recently De shrouded my GPU (gtx980) because the original 3 fan were falling after 9+ years. So if your gpu's original fan is going bad and u don't have any warrenty left than only Deshrouding make sense imo

[@STSYT]

Definitely in your case. And congrats for keeping that card alive till now

[@xcal99999]

@@STSYT Thanks man. I try to use hardwares as long as possible especially if they are serving me well

[@wolfwilkopter2231]

Nice one! My old 980 (that Gigabyte Gaming 1) still lives on, with my younger Bro and the fans still work. My 1080 Aorus Rev.2 still works in a secondary rig and that one had already a monstrous chunk of cooler slapped on, for me the best custom design for that generation and just needed some pad (or rather putty Upsiren U6 Pro) and paste (MX-6) replacements and now runs even smoother and slightly cooler, than it had brandnew, maxing out at perma 2GHz with just 65°C with barely going over 50% fan rpm, which is almost inaudible. :) the RTX308012gig Aorus Master on the other hand... lets just say the 3000er are not known for their superior efficiency and the easy cooling and that gets way hotter...and could use some deshrouding, but that would also mean losing the display and so on...

[@cszolee7979]

My 4080S has 4090 cooler and dual bios with Silent mode as default. After decades of loud, hot cards that had to be deshrouded due to the noise levels (Arctic P12 for the rescue!), this is so refreshing. Quiet, cool and does not need any external software to keep it that way.

[@Reaverstyle1]

I think that what ControllerSupported in the comments mentions about a proper mounting bracket is really important here. If you would have a mounting bracket for these 3 fans and make a 3D printed custom shroud for it so all the air without backflow is properly guided through the cooling, you`ll probably have better RPM less noise and great temps.

[@shaunbay2]

I deshrouded my 3090 with 3 p12 max and got similar results at max load. Under normal loads, it was cooler by a few degrees and also allowed me to push a slightly more aggressive fan curve with better noise profile. Couldn't be happier as the stock fans were very annoying.

[@ControllerSupported]

There are ways to make this better for that GPU. I have the Zotac trinity 4090, got the deshroud bracket from a seller on etsy that fits 2 120mm fans (I used noctua nf-a12 chromax) and got the black bracket kit from seller (he also had noctua brown). Temps are slightly lower, but noise is now very very quiet. Also looks fantastic. It was worth it for me because one of the factory fans was whining and it was quite annoying.

[@Ntense___]

I have a trinity and was wanting to try this

[@ControllerSupported]

@@Ntense___ I tried to link the etsy page, but the sellers name is Osserva. He is awesome, makes a bunch of different makes and model GPU brackets.

[@ZenTunE-]

I had no idea they revised the awful ball bearings on the P12 Max, thanks for mentioning it! Might give them another shot now.

[@asfodhell]

I did the exact same mod a few days ago, but on the Aorus Master 6800XT. In my case, it was definitely a massive improvement ! Not sure if the stock fans were on their way out, or just bad ? The point is ; the P12 Max ended up far more silent. My GPU draws 300watts under maximum load, the way I have it setup. Even with only two of these P12 Max, it was better than stock. I still went with 3 fans. I'm not trying to get very low temps tho. It is staying at 72~75°c Hotspot (12°c above GPU temp) when they spin at 1100rpm ---> Silent. Oh and the only fan spinning in my computer case, on idle (browsing etc ..) is the 2009's Corsair HX750W PSU's 140mm fixed speed fan 😆

[@peterelliott2914]

I got a SFFPC and I needed to do it to get the GPU in exhaust (no case fans possibe). When you got GPU risers and the card sitting beside the motherboard it's a whole new game. Pull fans on GPUs work just as well as push fans btw. Nice vid :)

[@BoomixDe]

When you watch interviews with Fan manufactuers like Noctua, you understand more what the important things are to air coling. For example, your fans are pressing agains the cooling fins, the air puses down so fast they will reflect back and also leak from the side, and even leak trough the 1mm gap around the fan blade. Adding some tape around the Fans to guide the air could also increase the perfrmace.

[@FrodeBergetonNilsen]

Deshrouding does not work, but ducting does. It just requires a ton of skill, even to design a proper one. Even when you get it to work, stock fans may offer a similar performance at max. I the end, modern cooling solutions have strong enough fans to get the most out of the heatsink, but they are noisy. Particular at slower speeds. There is no reason for a great heatsink not to result in lower fan noise than coil whine, for almost any GFX. The good news, is that some cards actually has very low whine, in which a card with a proper heatsink, will be virtually silent, even under load. You just need to duct it properly. I have yet to see anyone else actually do that. As in else. Time is getting ripe.

[@ffwast]

I was going to get a 3d printer and duct some full size fans through a 30 series but it turned out a watercooling loop was cheaper. Maybe someday.

[@FrodeBergetonNilsen]

​@@ffwast If you look at getting a brand new high end consumer printer, I get what you are saying. But for the most part, the cost is the design, a GPU water block, fittings, pump, and so on is way more expensive, than getting slant3d or someone to print one for you. But designing one, that is another story.

[@Udavvf]

To reduce the noize sometimes spacers are used between fan and radiator. Core boost might affect it, but also i believe that when running 3300RPM 12cm fans on full RPM not all air is able to pass through radiator, which creates some sort of air pillow, turbulence, backfiring air or what ever, hence the temperature increase

[@Franciscoxds]

it seems to be way quieter when forcing 50C. The deshroud was only running at 40%. Did you notice any difference in sound?

[@TheFirstSSJ]

Fun fact, "warranty devoid" screws are not legal under US law.

[@Falcon5ive]

1. The middle fans in trio configuration is supposed to spin opposite direction to avoid wind flutter. 2. These fans have a wide gap in between due to the frame thickness which leaves hotspots in the heatsink, while the oem fans are closer together. 3. Getting better specced fans would've healped as well, Noctua has great radiator fans with higher SP & CFM

[@PainIs4ThaWeak85]

Did you say "wind flutter"?

[@maozedowner5915]

Noctua fans are not better than Arctic P12 Max. NF-A12 competes with it, every other Noctua fans get completely gapped by the Arctic.

[@Shadowized]

Noctua fans haven't been relevant for at least 6+ years now, the P12 / P14 Max fans are much stronger due to the higher RPM ceiling, even the regular P12's are better since they are a little bit thicker (27 vs 25mm) while costing a fraction of what a single Noctua fan costs.

[@maozedowner5915]

@@Shadowized The P14 is 27 mm thick, not the P12. P12 is still 25 mm thick. The non-max variant is not better than the NF-A12. While Arctic stuff is excellent, don't praise them to the roof.

[@Shadowized]

@@maozedowner5915 seeing as how they (non-max) have near identical static pressure when running at the same RPM while costing 1/3rd the price, I'd say that praise is justified and no amount of brown team cope is going to change that.

[@peterschonherr7771]

I think the review is missing the point: Today you deshroud for noise, not raw performance. In a noise normalized test, the deshroud would have blown the original out of the water. And whats the with the focus on max rpm? I will gladly let my 4090 run up to the 60s with no hit in performance but virtually silent.

[@Sintrania]

It’s not just noise level, there is also a noise profile. Something people usually overlook, a lower frequency noise is much easier on the ear. Also those p12max move so much air, if you can’t expel them from the case fast enough it circulate and make everything hotter than it should. Airflow management in the case is much more important if you are looking to cool it a few degree more, but deshroud mods usually pair with a quiet fan for running at max rpm with no noise like noctua fan.

[@dan8t669]

1. De-shrouding didn't become less popular over the years. You don't even have to DIY it anymore. You can get conversion kits for many cards on etsy. 2. Removing the fan shroud does not void the warranty. 3. Why not aim for 60-70°C?

[@cameronjames914]

Liked and subscribed as soon as the zip ties came out. The two fans in the top of my case are secured in this most refined method.

[@Daygunjim]

Undervolting with an optional underclock (for an even more aggressive unervolt) while still using the factory cooling is still 100% a better option for lowering temps and noise. Less stuffing around figuring out how to mount them and running all those extra cables to fan headers. My 4070 Ti runs at around 65-70c while gaming with 40% fan speed, of course I can up the fan speed for even better temps but at 40% it's basically silent and that's what I wanted.

[@lordstorm8555]

shroud gives the fans a vacuum so it pulls more air through the heatsink

[@tallpaul9475]

I replaced the fans and the heatsink with RAIJINTEK MORPHEUS II CORE EDITION, and it is cooler while being quieter. GTX 1080 GPU had the original fan fail, replaced it, and another failed a month later. Now it works better.

[@davidolsen2455]

I deshrouded my EVGA 3070 and put two Noctua 120's on it, I found it definitely worthwhile. Temperatures dropped maybe 1 or 2c, nothing of significance. But the reduction in noise was the big win and why I did it. The fans now run at 40% compared to 60% of the originals. The Noctua's are a lot quieter compared to the originals at all points. The 120's are also much more durable than the old fans, so they now run all the time.

[@Blueyoshi03]

deshrouded my 1080ti last month with 2 P12 max fans. Created a foam seal between the heatsink and the fans for better pressure and in BG3 saw a noise normalised temp decrease of 25-30c... In every way its dramatically cooler and quieter than stock.

[@Custom_PC_Keebs]

I like that you show the hard times like that cable that won’t go out 😅 I feel you bro !

[@toxicparasite3031]

We need a bord-partner offering models ready for installing your own fans. Maybe with an adapted shroud to still achieve guided airflow. It doesn't even need to be cheaper.

[@MrSouthSioux]

Deshrouding is why I always buy the non-oc/basic versions. On my PNY Verto it was 4 screws and the two fan cables and boom shroud off. I replaced it with 3 Be Quiet Silent Wings 4. Running off motherboard header. In my MATX system temps are ice cold and the only component I hear is the PSU fan under load. Now for your high end cards you may not see that significant improvement but for the basic models you will absolutely see results.

[@Lofff371]

You can try using 3M heat resistance double tape to stick fans to the heat sink. It looks clean and the tape is actually very strong and durable

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

The no fans concept was doom to fail because you need sizeable static pressure to get through the fins of that heatsink...

[@Recker45-70]

I've got an XFX 7800xt I de-shrouded for 3 92mm NF-A9's. Definitely recommend it, that plus quality thermal pads/paste and added backplate pads have kept it nice and cool.

[@BouiBoui12]

Funny enough, I deshrouded a used RTX 3080 Ti today to put it in my good old NCASE M1 Mini-ITX case. The card is sitting on top of two Noctua NF-A12x25 directly plugged on the PWM port of the GPU. Temperatures are ok (78°C after one hour of GPU stress test) and noise levels stay very low. Definitely worth it for SFF builds.

[@MrGreenwolfie]

Did this to my 2080ti and omg it was like going from a jet engine in my room to a roomba. And my temps dropped about 5-8C using some random fans I had laying around.

[@gijoeljamesmaldonado]

I put p12 Max in my build with a total of 8 fans . Got 2 degree celsius cooler. Well worth it. I have been getting stable numbers now.

[@N0rth0M-1]

back when 3090 came out i switched to the gaming x trio version and bios flashed the 1000w evga bios on it, but i had to wait for my waterblock so i literally ran 1000w card on air and installing the waterblock did only bring me 2 boost bins of headroom, and gpu hotspot went from 57C to 49. it's kinda insane how good the stock aircoolers are these days

[@Reirainsong]

It's also about proprietarism and repairability. It makes no sense that GPUs aren't designed to have cooling system replacements. While it can be done, good luck figuring out stuff like thermal pads of just the right thickness and compressibility. Besides profit margins, there's no reason GPUs can't be sold as bare boards, maybe with just the VRM heatsinks like mobos, and have a wide selection of aftermarket coolers.

[@Shrek_Boi5155]

I deshrouded my Powercolor RX 6950 XT Red Devil and also got similar results. Replaced the stock two 100mm plus one 90mm fans with two Phanteks T30s. I already undervolted the card and the two T30s don't have 100% coverage over the heatsink so temps werent significantly better or anything. Perhaps a bit cooler. The stock fans werent bad by no means but damn, the noise improvement alone made it completely worth it imo. Much quieter.

[@zarster]

Been running my 2080ti with two 120mm fans connected via a cable adapter to original fan ports on the card since I bought it. The original fans have only run in the factory, if at all. And I have been very happy with noise and cooling. Been using Noctua fans for the GPU though.

[@aku2dimensional]

I wanted to remove the shroud from my GTX 1070 and put in a fan assembly that fits into a PCIe slot next to the card, but I want to plug straight into the card's fan header since I don't have another way to power them in my enterprise PC. The fans are broken in my card so three 92mm fans might help cool it a little more.

[@franzaspiras1388]

my subscriber to you on this channel is worth it , we can learn a lot bro

[@STSYT]

I appreciate that!

[@MrDvneil]

i used a white glue mixed with celulose (toilet paper) , created a denser paste applied to the corners for the fans, and then on the heatsink, it dried fast and fans stay strong there, and will be easy to remove that white glue paste in the future. in my case was worth it. Was a gifted gpu, kinda new/unused, and i know stock fans tend to fail with the years/use, so i directly replaced them to preserve them to keep the gpu value. small gaps between the fans/heatsink (if air leaks out) tend to have a noticeable temp impact.

[@suprafastmafc]

I put two of these same fans on an asrock 6700xt on my backup rig. The factory fans were a joke. And I never even ran them, so no clue how poorly they performed. But a quick internet search will say poorly. Used coper wire and attatched the fans to the ends of the copper heat pipes. Doesnt go over 40c on hotspot. And I just have them running half tilt on a noctua manual controller. Might go to gpu controlled speed here soon. Ordered the adaptor needed.

[@pozz941]

I think you could significantly reduce the noise putting some kind of spacer between the fans and the heatsink. It will reduce turbulence and if shaped correctly it could function as some kind of mask and direct air into the fins without it spilling out from the sides

[@minibotpc]

I wish they made gpu's that would allow you to swap 120mm or even 92mm fans to whatever you want, make it modular.

[@daddybotz]

I deshrouded my evga 3090 to hybrid. About 20c cooler when gaming now from 70c to 50c lol

[@justanobody4983]

I long for the day that gpus fans are replaceable with standard 120mm. A man can only dream.

[@SQUNTO]

worth it purely for the diabolical aesthetic, great vid!

[@cfunkbooya]

I have a montech case with two of their 120mm reverse fans blowing directly up into my 7600xt and it still cranks up to 100% fan speeds when fully loaded. According to AMD these cards and their new cpus are meant to run at high temps. I read they stress tested them at temps above normal like in the 90's and the chips are able to run at those temps long term without damage.

[@IonNight]

You need space between the fans and the heatsink to get better airflow. I placed NF12x25 on 2080 Ti and temps got really improved, but its a 4 slot card now.

[@yavorhristov2117]

First: To lower temps you need more air going through the heatsink. Those P12 MAXs has 81 CFM airflow each and when the case is closed the case fans have to push that many air in the case so it can be sucked by the P12s. If intake is not enough the P12 might spin at max RPM but wont push more air through the heatsink. Second: P12 max might move tons of air but they spin at above 3000 RPM and they become noisy if not noisier than the stock fans and the MAX's bearing itself is not meant to be silent. Regular P12 will be better option- 1800RPM of silence pushing 56 CFM. Third: Effect varies from GPu to GPU- I have a deshrouded Strix Vega56 with 2 regular P12s and without touching the voltage/frequncy it stays under 60C, in complete silence. Tweaking voltage/frequency drops it close to 50.

[@fvhrenheit4813]

I recently bought used 3080(also zotac). Did deshroud mod, replaced paste, pads. Undervolted, this thing is cool as a puppy.

[@EumlOriginal]

you need a shroud for the fans, otherwise air will take the path with the least resistance, i.e. past the cooler ... if you have a 3D printer, print two shrouds, one to get some distance between the lower fans and the floor and a second shroud that then directs the air towards the heatsink like a funnel... and prevents the graphics card from sagging

[@georgegn6534]

You have a video in your ads

[@OctagonalSquare]

3:34 legally, disassembly cannot void a warranty. Basic maintenance of internals must be allowed under the law (at least in the US, idk about elsewhere). Now, the mod does void it because you’re putting on parts it wasn’t meant to work with and running it. But just taking it apart does not, unless you break it in the process

[@DarkAttack14]

Deshrouds do not void the warranty on the card for the same reason taking at apart doesn't magnuson moss act

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

The heatsinks on the 4090 are generally so huge the cooling is pretty impressive out of the box, I know mine rarely goes over 70c even in the Australian summer. I have seen performance figures from water cooled 4090's and while they run cool the actual performance really isn't much better than any other 4090 even if the temps are obviously cooler.

[@bnaamani1100]

Some company should implement this design one day, GPU's would change forever!

[@potatorigs2155]

Not sure what country you're from but this doesn't void the warranty in usa and canada

[@jm879]

How about a all p12/14 max pc? With matching Arctic Liquid freezer 3 420mm with p14 and that de shrouded gpu?

[@whiskeredgundam7765]

I have a 3080 MSI ventus I deshouded and put three 90mm fans on. I have it in an itx build and with the new fans I was able to remove my undervolt and it's 50% quieter now.

[@MrGarbezzy]

You should make a fan shroud n try again

[@stephenhood2948]

That blue King95 looks sweet!! I have the white version, but I really think I should have looked at the red or blue cases more.

[@Sleepless2402]

and all of this just for Noise, thank you for the testing! btw what do you think about the Palit Game Rock 4080/4090?

[@mr.electronx9036]

I replaced msi trio fans (3 fans) with 2x 140mm noctua fans The gpu runns 10°C cooler and you can't hear the fans at all.

[@mynickisalreadytaken]

In a direct comparision with good Headphones in your Video, i thought it was absolutely worth it. It even looks better. But that is of course just a personal opinion overall. The soundscpace is diferent and i would love to hear the difference with a closed case, sitting next to me on the floor. I have a Dark Base 900 pro rev. 2 with 3x 140mm Fans in the Front and an XFX RX6800 SWFT. With custom Fancurve and an Undervolt it is really not loud on full load and around 59°c While there is no need to do it and this GPU looks quite beautiful when installed, i feel the urge to do it just for fun. Lets see if i also get 3 fans on that Cooler. Thanks for the Video. I like these Experiments with now modern Hardware. Also shows that some GPU Cooling Solutions work really really good.

[@OctagonalSquare]

I think it depends on the model. The founders edition has fewer fans to start with, and several others only have 2.

[@garywilson7420]

It looks like you're bottom fans are set to exhaust not intake in the video? Maybe that was the issue with temps? (the white band on the 120's shows this if you look at the rear exhaust it is inside the same as the bottom ones which should have the white band on the bottom of the case floor). Turn them around and repeat it.

[@WhiteZelda]

I have an RX590 (i know, cant afford anything newer yet), that runs at 8485c and it throttles a lot, i already changed thermal paste pads, even installed new fans just in case but still nothing works When using PC fans for GPU, what should i be looking at, CFM or Air Pressure? I cant afford Noctua fans, so im looking at some Antec T3 Storm to replace the default ones

[@brunofqs]

You should observe air flow and air speed, thus, fans with higher rpm at a expense of noise. However, this kind of card has multiple exits for the air after accelerated by the stock fans (I got a RX 580 and I have observed that). I believe a good fraction of the flow don't have enough time to sheer with the fins. I'm think of cover it somehow and test to see what effect it does.

[@TechCheckUK]

well done mate great lil experiment nicely explained 👍

[@rhl2macwan]

just before u said about zip tie i thought of the exact same thing

[@sidewinder86ify]

I did this to my XFX merc 7900XT. 3x Be quiet SW4. Superb results, temp at 55c 700rpm fans. Original fans 69c 2000rpm..15% more power on both mods on the gpu.

[@dotxyn]

The fact that you've improved the aesthetic of your card makes it completely worth it, not that Zotac set the bar very high.

[@Ryohta77]

As far as I heard on the video, it had worth to replace fan. Actually, I am doing de-shrouding on my 3070 and it works well. Anyway thanks for testing!

[@hussainal-umran3460]

maybe cause of the air tunneling is not there any more

[@EmoEmu]

I think many tinkerers have moved onto watercooling those grotesque cards.

[@PoliRole]

I ran my rtx 3070 with pair of arctic p12 max in nr200p. Deshrouding is really popular in sff community.

[@ricardo762]

True the fan replacement was worthless but water cooling is still a king upgrade.

[@SlinkySlonkyWaffle]

the deshrouded one is still an improvement in every way. i understand people want a quiet PC but this already is very quiet, we need to stop chasing perfection and saying "its not good enough" while its substantially better than the original solution

[@dot_boi]

I wish GPU fans were more modular by design so you can just latch in any 90 or 120 mm fan like an air cooler or something. I mean air coolers have gotten this down over 10 years ago at this point. Why can't at least the AIBs create coolers with modular fans? I don't really care if the Founders edition has built in fans but I'd like the option for modular fans. For ex if one fan dies on a newer GPU, well you're SOL and have to RMA the entire card... You're also stuck with the fans you get unless you de-shroud the thing which is more of a mod than a feature and more than likely voids your warrenty. There are tens of thousands of fans already on the market, a good chunk of them would already fit on GPUs, why not take advantage of that?

[@DarkAttack14]

No it doesn't void your warranty. Magnuson moss act

[@paolofumagalli4923]

You should flip the middle fan to exhaust.. take a closer look to your custom, that fan is reverse.

[@Adri-ve]

MSI Rtx 3080 10G here , I deshrouded mine and mounted 2x nf-a12 and temps are around 10-15⁰C lower and the noise is down significantly.

[@potatorigs2155]

Those are 110mm fans stock on the card kind of a waste of time to de-shroud it. Does looks mighty good thought.

[@robertmajors1737]

My gpu is deshrouded at present. It's a zotac 3080, and I had to do it for it to fit in my Ncase M1. It has to Noctua nfa12x25 cooling it now and its quiet and cool.

[@Cheeseypoofs85]

honestly they should just make gpus with heatsinks that have screw holes for 120mm or 140mm fans depending on the heatsink size. just make it the exact length to use either 2 or 3 fans. that way people can just use fans that match their case and run them off the same headers or software as the case fans

[@shanelagonoy8769]

I have a 2070s and haven't seen a 4090 in person but just looking at that 3 stacks of 120mm fan and comparing it to my 360 radiator, holy shit that card is so big

[@Daygunjim]

I was just thinking to myself while watching that people thought the PS5 was big when it came out, but at least that's an entire console including an internal PSU. The 4090 just has one job and its that big!

[@shanelagonoy8769]

@@Daygunjim and I thought my 3 fan 2070s is already big af lol then there's the 4090

[@MrDratik]

My 3060 Ventus 2x from the store heats up to 77 degrees and makes noise like crazy. I tried to adjust the curves somehow, but I didn't have much success in smoothing out the problem. Replacing it with two P12s (not max) allowed me to see 60 degrees at full load at a completely silent 1100 rpm

[@SillentStriker]

Thanks for this comment, gonna try it out one of these days. My 3060ti ventus has been going over 80 degrees Celsius for a couple years now, and these stock fans are noisy as hell

[@rabellogp]

I hate seeing so many cooling projects nowadays with shrouds that block 60-80% of the heatsink exposed side (considering the inner side is already fully blocked by the motherboard.) I miss EVGA designs that seemed to always put functionality before form.

[@ShadyHero]

0:02 id guess coolers got HUGE

[@SteelTumbleweed]

The R9 290x was the last time a mod like this made sense. Coolers these days are really good, especially the 80-90 class ones. They're overbuilt.

[@enricod.7198]

Do this and then undervolt the card. Maybe use a spacer between fan and heatsink, which should improve things like a cpu air cooler.

[@theboberson2328]

i did the same in my rtx 2080s but with 90mm fans also artic and its been loud and not perform very well ,but when i flip fans to the exhaust they much more quieter and temps drop is noticeable

[@Tolard49]

I did the same with a Sapphire RX 7800 XT Pulse with 2 NF-A15 slim: slightly lesser temps but way quieter, 100% was less noisy than 50% stock fans.

[@b1ini]

I have the same cards and the same results.

[@daflipflop]

Deshrouded my ASRock PG 7900XTX just the other week, it's great!

[@daflipflop]

And yeah in my case the hotspot dropped ~7C at the same fan speed at 1600rpm but also the 2xPhanteks T30 fans I replaced the 3x stock fans with have a much nicer sound profile. Dropping the T30's to 1300rpm for a very quite operation I still se like 1-2C hotspot improvment to the stock at 1600rpm. So it sure was a win for my card at least. Running this in a Coolermaster NR200P ITX case.

[@Zmeor]

Hi. I did the same with my EVGA RTX 2060. I know it's old, but for me it worth it maximally. I've used 2 Noctua NF-A9 fans. It doesn't look as clean as before (I love the Noctua colours), but I care more about the noise lvl which is very impressive. The hardest part was to diy an adaptor to power the fans from the card itself. Imo it's worth it for older or loud cards :) Cheers!