Is DJI Trying To Stop CaddX ? - Avatar HD BNF Disappearing

Is DJI Behaving Badly With Vendors to stop CaddX Avatar HD FPV System ?
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[@BOTGRINDER]

dgi being anti competitive? well ya dont say.

[@JuanCintron]

Ian, come on man! "Walksnail being pushed out, you don't believe is a big deal!". Seriously? Of course is a big deal...

[@manski209]

I seen this on FB this morning. Thats why i chose not to go the dji route, they are like mobsters, they want to control the whole HD market, i will never buy a dji product even though they are the best. I went the Walksnail route and i'm happy with their system in my quads. I even put Walksnail in my RC off road 1/8 scale buggies and i will continue buying and using their products.

[@fpvsmurf]

Alot are using walksnail on rc cars trucks...from what I been seeing.

[@chrisstolle5664]

SAME

[@jaysonrees738]

I've got no issue going back to analog before I blow a ton of cash on a monopolistic entity. DJI just keeps giving me new reasons not to hand them money.

[@twiggy749]

With almost 20 kwads I have only 1 kwad using FPV digital system, and it is DJI. I tried it, I didn't like all it supposes neither the image quality (large monocolor spots) and latency (yes, I can feel the chop chopping of the image, and the delay). Now I am waiting for a more sensate approach to digital FPV (imho more than 1000$ for the googles and 2 vrx is not a sensate approach), so I am waiting for a solution like openipc to take off.

[@Vousie]

@@twiggy749 Well, if the latency of DJI bothers you, pretty much only HDZero will work for you. HDZero also doesn't do the large monocolour spots. Looks like OpenIPC still uses H264/5, so I doubt it'll even get the latency down to DJI levels... And looking at some of the videos, you still get those large monocolour spots in OpenIPC... That is just how H264/5 work. They're not designed for low latency FPV over a link with a lot of dataloss, so they'll always struggle to get the kind of things we prioritise. They're made for things like KZbin videos not FPV. HDZero is designed from the ground up for FPV's priorities.

[@twiggy749]

@@Vousie I think that if price allows to keep the system in the long term there is no issue, but imho having the intention to force customers to update all their gear every year because of compatibility issues is not the way to go, moreover when the system cannot be kept in the long term. Time will tell

[@Vousie]

@@twiggy749 Well, I see zero indication that HDZero will try to force people to buy new gear every year.

[@user-eq2ug7in7b]

​@@twiggy749you can get a 3W analog vtx for $45.... 🤷‍♂️

[@mlentsch]

Not surprising considering that DJI owes their success in general to anti-competitive behavior. I have noticed that the BNFs are lacking for Walksnail. DJI is hell-bent on owning the ENTIRE drone industry by any means necessary. In the end, we'll get fucked.

[@fpvsmurf]

I feel like it was opposite for tooth picks and smaller. Everything had walksnail but not DJI because too big. Until recently pavo pico and others.

[@tmc-fpv]

@@fpvsmurf interestingly people are making a case for de-casing O3 for smaller quads, when viable options already exist. And when you look at most reviews of late of smaller quads they always seem to be showcasing the DJI variant.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

All one conspiracy theory! Nothing is verified. Irresponsible reporting!

[@johnfig3196]

I disagree. The market will always decide who gets to succeed. If walksnail.had a superior product to DJI we wouldn't need to have this conversation. They don't, and here we are. You as the consumer have all the power.

[@Crunklefloop]

​@@johnfig3196 Only when there remains a choice to be had, markets aren't always democratic. One could equally argue that people voting with their wallets and buying WS over DJI is exactly why we're seeing this behaviour; the market share for DJI in the last 6 months has dipped so people ARE using their buying power. I've run both and in many ways (but not all) WS do have a superior product, particularly for FW pilots. It's all very "1st world problem" though, whatever system you feel is best for you, we're extremely fortunate with the tech that's available to us these days that not so long ago was merely a dream.

[@pcdoc2000]

I was a bit hessitent if I should go to DJI or Walksnail, but after seeing this I'm glad I did decide for Walksnail. I hate big companies which missuse their power in the market. For me DJI became an absolute no-go. Unfortunately, because I thought about buying a Mini 4 pro for video capturing, but I will try to find something else instead...

[@Loki_FPV666]

One of the reasons I refuse to buy anything from DJI. I would much rather spend my money with HDZero because they are a better company. Now that I have my HDZero goggles I plan on getting a Walksnail VRX so I can play around with their system too. Overall I still mostly fly analog because it's the cheapest and typically the lightest option for micros.

[@starsstripesjacket]

Dji being a garbage company, how shocking...lol 😂 I'm a person that builds all my quads myself so this doesn't affect me. I ditched DJI when I got my HDzero goggles and walksnail VRX. Haven't looked back since.

[@fpvsmurf]

You sound just like me. Lol I sold my few DJI over a year ago..never looked back. Its like Apple want to force and control you. I gave up on them that time when I couldn't even update on my PC because of sums software issues.

[@JohnCuppi]

Yes! I got a cameo in a Mad’s tech video! 😅

[@MCsCreations]

Honestly? I wouldn't be surprised if this was true. DJI makes great products, but their politics... Anyway. Stay safe there with your family, Ian! 🖖😊

[@chrisstolle5664]

This is a great channel. They have info that others don't.

[@geometerfpv2804]

Nice level-headed take. Too many people have DJI derangement syndrome. It's entirely possible GEPRC stopped selling Avatar because it wasn't a money-maker. Even if DJI was trying to use their weight to push Avatar out...is that really unjustified? Avatar is a literal copy, we all though it had literally been stolen from DJI when it came out...right down to the menu items. At the most charitable, it was very directly reverse-engineered. If someone did that with your work, would you let them eat into your market share? It's a business. I think people give it a lot of unnecessary hate, same thing happens in other technical hobbies...people are very anti-business. I don't know why...without DJI, we would surely still be flying analog...

[@JuanCintron]

If we look at what BetaFPV is doing, I believe this is true. Pavo Pico for instance was marketed as a DJI or Walksnail variation. Granted, did not included either camera (which I believe is a smart marketing move from BetaFPV). However, for the recently released Pavo 20; this time around, BetaFPV doesn't even mention Walksnail. So the indicator appear this to be a true statement.

[@craplogin3000]

Glad i used your link to order a pair of HD Zero goggles today.

[@Q1320]

Got my hopes up thought this was a new video about the upcoming WS goggles

Nightrider f a cylon

[@Q1320]

@ hahaha

[@lemonsquareFPV]

I wouldn’t say that there is much bad blood among anybody. DJI told Caddx of the upcoming single camera closed system long ago and Caddx did what they had to, to survive. They had way too much product, camera chip inventory, and supply chain integration to fail…making a deal for a system was the only possible option to reduce disruption. DJI could have played that completely differently. The only reason they cut public ties is actually because of us, that was not a plan, at all. It was a reaction to the perceived controversy that they wanted to keep under control. The only thing I don’t like currently is that instead of passing on the recent O3 savings to consumers they are using it as an incentive with BNF manufacturers. Obviously you would prefer building with O3 if you are getting $30 per. Especially with its demand. That’s the only thing that sucks… but IT IS very smart. Personally I have no thoughts or feelings one way or another. Things are more complicated than they appear sometimes. Even with my knowledge of the inventories, supply chains, and connections in basically every building I am not confident to point fingers or demonize.

[@pottyputter05]

Agreed on every aspect here. Ppl will want to smear dji instantly and fair enough as they are a chicom company but we still need to stick to reality even if not giving and benefit ti dji on anything

[@madman1027]

I wish I had got into the Walksnail system when I started instead of a tipsy purchase of DJI kit. I would have loved to have smaller/lighter VTX for my smaller quads.

[@halokiller711]

after having some vista quads and flying some analog drones I have started to regret it too. have waited on getting an o3 to see what walksnail was going to make, which so far the low light stuff has been great

[@madman1027]

@@halokiller711 I just don't want to have to keep buying goggles to keep up or start splitting out across eco systems. It's enough with analogue goggles & the DJI Gv2. I'm inclined to grab & stash a few nebula pro's as spares/for new builds & just ride out a few more years. I've no interest in o3 I just want something good enough that doesn't need a whole ecosystem refresh every few years & has better penetration than analogue. I know it's wishful thinking but I've had my whinge.

[@jakeclauson9863]

Iv also recieved my aos supernovas, trying to decide what frame to pit them on. Swap out my xing motors from my aos 5? Or build an apex evo? did you notice the small amounts of material around the bell (between the "spokes") that im assuming is being used to balance the motor? Or does mine just have rat poo stuck in the bell? Kinda what it looks like

[@ChrisQuadFPV]

I only fly Analog so I can afford my parts when they break or crash . And I'm fine with that.😃

[@MadRC]

Winner. 🥇 😀

[@xORLOCKx]

Glad I switched to walksnail. Seen the writing on the wall..

[@m-smoothfpv]

Sick shirt!

[@mixedepisode]

Learn how to build your own quad. KZbinrs like Joshua Bardwell will walk you through the whole process. When you crash, blow a motor, esc, you will need to repair it yourself anyway. It’s part of fpv. And it’s quite enjoyable to build your own quad. Then you can pick whatever components you want. KZbin has all the answers. It takes some patience. Learning to freestyle takes patience and lots of practice. If you can’t build or fix your own quad, then probably not the hobby for you

[@fpvgiggles]

Oh yeah we see those supernovas in the back!

[@EnglishTurbines]

Putting an Avatar HD video system in a quad or plane is really easy these days compared to Analogue....DJI have saturated their Drone market....😳😳😏🇬🇧

[@ChristopherF_1971]

After this Goggle X release and all the issues i am having along with thousands of others, I am sure glad I still have all my DJI V2 gear. My X goggles can’t be trusted to use because they overheat INSIDE my 68° Fahrenheit home. If this is happening inside my home in winter I can just imagine how quickly the X goggles will overheat in summer heat. Another user from Australia is saying he can’t even get 5 minutes of use out of his X goggles in 90° Fahrenheit temperatures.

[@AerialWaviator]

Related, there have been almost no new BNF models offering Vista/Link as an option since the DJI/Caddx partnership ended and the DJI/RunCam partnership continued. It could be just a case that existing pilots have all the Vista/Link units they want and only transferring to new BNFs. With the shortage in camera over 2020-2022 and Avatar/HDzero and O3 appearing it could also be just too many options diluting the market. The market for new pilots is probably easier to understand as they're purchasing mostly all new equipment. What BNFs existing pilots are purchasing is more a complex story. Do they purchase frame kits, or a Vex-less drone and complete the final assembly. There is probably very little market data on this, other than what individual resellers can provide.

[@JuanCintron]

😳 You had to plug in the Roto Riot commercial!

[@Kingsleyfpv]

I started with the dji goggles 2 and avata. Had the issue that the avata would fall out of the sky. I replaced it with a Aos 5 with the 03. I had camera vibrations issues and did everything dji Support Said and nothing helped. Glued the lens barrel down and that fixed the vibrations. Sent video proof to dji Support and they didn’t reply anymore…. After trying hdzero and found I can fly much better with fixed low latency I’m selling all my dji stuff and switching to HDZERO.

[@IanF-FPV]

What warranty Mads for the DJI bnf?. If the air unit dies, I can’t get a warranty if it was sourced in China and I live in the USA. Or did they change their policy?

[@BBFPV]

Does DJI care about small manufactures like craprc or so?

[@JeremyBreeden89]

I don’t see a problem with a add creating their own system while being partnered with DJI as long as their was no agreement in writing forbidding cases from doing such thing, after all Caddx is it’s own business and business will have to continue even when their contract with DJI was up.

[@Mupshot]

I dont fly DJI, nor do I typically buy BNF, instead, I buid my self, and currently use analog or walksnail.

[@johnfig3196]

Is it possible that the market share that walksnail has is not enough to justify bnf manufacturers to bother making quads with their system? Would be interesting ti find out what percentage of people flying digital use walksnail.

[@TheCivildecay]

I doubt the market share of HDzero is much bigger than Walksnail and there are plenty of BnF's getting released with HDzero option

[@MrD]

If it was down to market share. There would be no need for DJI to have to use this bullying tactic. They either feel threatened, or are just a$$holes.

[@MadRC]

Avatar sales numbers were very low from what I was told on the BNF side. Also CaddX reputation among other companies is also not good.

[@MrD]

@@MadRC which is fine. What isn’t fine is DJI saying that to continue being able to sell DJI products, they can no longer sell other HD systems.

[@MadRC]

@@MrD at the end of the day DJI can’t stop them. Also this is still hearsay and rumours. Yes an image has come out but that could be fake these days. CaddX also have behaved very badly over the years in many ways that has caused trust issues. So it’s a very complicated issue.

[@GarethDix]

dji has 50% of the market share (maybe more), and walksnail isn't the other 50% it makes business sense to focus where the market is... that said I'm not sure if people understand how retail works... that washing powder you buy... the company has to pay the retailer some kind of incentive to put it on the most prominent place on the shelf or by the point of sale... I'm guessing this could be the case here... GEPRC have a lot of power when it comes to the BNF market so if caddx aren't offering them incentives for building quads with them in and dji are... then that could be what's going on... I would highly doubt that DJI are putting into contracts that they can't sell caddx products... if they are then I'm moving to HD Zero

[@oziumentisis]

Its like Coke and Pepsi. Vendors can not sell both. God forbid if you find a DJI worker flying Walksnail! 🤣

[@MadRC]

Hahahaha never thought of the coke and Pepsi one. I wish I had lol. Brilliant.

[@ethrrr]

Walksnail is quite popular! We should not underestimate them. And isn't there a rumor, they are coming up with new goggles? Possibly a new video transmitters..

[@craigbu7755]

I like to build my own quads but although I only use the 03 unit (I have 3) when i fancy a new build i remove the 03 unit from the quad i fly the least and fit it in the new build.

[@dondupuis4007]

You killing me, just purchased new walksnail avatar Google, and you said new ones are coming out and now they are reducing BNF avatar.. I know it's not your fault, great job keeping us informed. Great video.. I like the quads like the Pavo 20 that comes with video system

[@winslowleach1835]

Never ends in FPV.

[@youngster30uk]

Walksnail said they have a big product announcement to make this month. The Ws users are going crazy speculating what it will be. Sounds like there will. Definately be new goggles but no rumours about the specs yet.

[@835FPV]

What is the BNF market even going to look like after Remote ID?

[@baggszilla]

Thanks Ian!! We can always count on you to give us the most up to date news and behind the scenes activities of our wonderful hobby! Cheers!

[@TechnicallyTom]

So here’s the thing. Most people start with a bind and fly with those on a budget not even doing digital. Due to the nature of how these things are flown and especially how inexperienced users fly, they need to be repaired. It’s not so convenient to send them in for repair so this is where users start to learn how to maintain and eventually build. There are a lot of users out there that love to build. When you build, you get to choose whatever parts you want. If people do start voting with their wallets, I can see manufacturers selling kits that don’t include the VTX at all. This is probably one of the easier parts to attach since most flight controllers have a plug for digital VTX connection.

[@verdi6092]

Maybe the new upcoming walksnail is superior to the o4 system...

[@EnglishTurbines]

Caddex is taking DJIs business....It's so obvious...😀😀😏😏🇬🇧

[@volaertus]

I love walksnail baby!

[@TechTimeElectronics]

Yeah but isn't that the point, if one of these companies offer to build it with what you want in there and DJ I decides that they don't want that company selling anything else but DJ I system in it, then during goes to conflict of interest, no?

[@thewhitedillard]

If Walksnail can make a better product, I don't think BNF manufacturers will be able to deny making quads with their stuff. Get on it Walksnail ✊

[@disco.volante]

The O3 Air Unit is too expensive. I mean, come on, those 700 Euro BNFs probably don’t exactly fly off the shelves. Bad sales are the #1 reason for anti-competitive behavior, obviously.

[@alexpetr0vich]

Axisflying is still going strong with walksnail bnf

[@tmc-fpv]

I guess the Avatar goggle box seen too much action this week and couldn't make an appearance on your desk beside the DJI goggles. Would have given a more impartial look to the video.

[@MadRC]

I had the DJI goggles to hand. I did not have the ws the box was next to me though. The video is neither for or against either side. It’s simply stating the facts and my personal opinion. Please don’t come here with you perceived beleive of bias. I am the one highlighting the accusations against DJI.

[@MatCron]

Really don't understand why. DJI is the first in the HD company to make HD VTX. May be because vista still on sale? Who knows........

[@rishithakur1551]

I've got my aos supernova motors too!!! I wonder if they'll live up to the hype!

[@scottmilano2940]

Are they 2207 sized, bigger or smaller. Just the bigger/smaller would be interesting if you don’t want to give specific measurements. In Rosser’s video he mentioned they were 2207 class, but not exactly 22mm wide by 7mm tall.

[@chrisbee5481]

Half a mm wider and taller

[@rishithakur1551]

​@@scottmilano2940I'm probably not going to risk taking the bell off to measure but they seem a little wider and taller...

[@RCRitterFPV]

Welp.., maybe time to buy some walksnail vtx’s Although.. the o3 works so well

[@elxero2189]

Dji being naughty hmm.. so what else is new

[@Q1320]

This is why I only DIY can't tell me what I can or can't stuff in my quad pfff

[@PritishPal]

I faced some issues with my walksnail goggles x screen came black 😢 😭 help me

[@bulufish8208]

The only thing i have from dji is the goggles. Besides none of my bnf have the 03. so whatever they do is because many r still buying there products.

[@LehtusBphree2flyFPV]

Thats why its best to learn how to build your own and go from there

[@M-H433]

Exactly

[@bengordon7635]

No they are NOT!!!!!!! Caddx Night eagle HD is on pre order ,,,,,,, New Caddx system coming out on preorder .. and they have the new Falcon unit to compete with the 03 air unit .. 1080p 120fps ...

[@jamesg1460]

Yet another reason to stay well away from dirty dji and to build your own screw bind and flys

[@406fpv9]

If thus is true it's bullahit that dji would do that But caddx did basically steal the system from. Dji

[@EnglishTurbines]

Rubbish...😳🙄🙄🇬🇧

[@Clickmaster5k]

DJI has done more to hurt hobbyist than anyone else and not because of anticompetitive practice. IMO DJI is the reason we have RID.

[@gonebdg]

Hmmm I think it's just a bussiness matter and not supprissed if dji doing that because they had plenty of power/resources to do it. DJI BNF quad is mostly (for) targeting the newcomer and might be tempting for those who need or interested with fancy fpv video or for those who have the money over their interest or passion for the hobby itself. "Build Fly Crash Repeat" are not for them anyway 🤣

[@amax2624]

I don´t care, no BNF user. But DJI might go the way in the FPV community that FRSKY went after they had blocked Crossfire for their users. (remember these shitty inverters, that came with the second batch of QX7 and then X10)

[@vanlifefpv6340]

Doesn't iFlight also only make DJI O3 BNF models?

[@MadRC]

Largely yea, apparently they did do Avatar but iv not seen one

[@markas11]

I can understand DJI is the best product on the market hands down. But these are very reasons -and many more - that I will never buy it. Rooting for avatar, hdzero and other open solutions to get stronger. The technology is moving forward. Getting hd video in fpv is getting easier as it doesn't require dedicated chips any more.

[@SFPFPV]

Kinda reminds me of the TBS debacle

[@rasmus80g]

Well I hold my money if not walksnail. So far have 2bnf with walksnail and som diy planes. But in quad I prefer bnf. Dji is no good value for money... still want a 3inch freestyle with walksnail have not found that yet.

[@MountaineerFPV]

Avatar owns the HD miniwhoop 1s market. DJI….bad form once again.

[@MrD]

Come on Ian. You could have at least moved the DJI goggles aside to try and look impartial. Nice subliminal product placement there 😉

[@MadRC]

Oh come on ffs I had them on the desk and as the story is largely accusing DJI in my eyes it made more sense to have that in hand. I’m sorry but having both sets of goggles means fuck all here. You’re reading into something that does not exist. I presented the the accusations against DJI as fairly as I could for both sides and gave my opinion. If I wanted to hide the fact or be biased I could not have made the video. I am the only one who has brought this to the headlines on KZbin so please before you start throwing around nonsense take that fact into account.

[@MrD]

@@MadRC tbh, you’re right. The goggles made little difference. What I found more disturbing was the “even if they are being pushed out in some way; I don’t believe it’s a big deal” comment. Yes, it is a big deal. Regardless of market share, reliability, or popularity of each HD system. The BnF manufacturers should have the freedom to choose which systems they offer in their products. Not be bullied by some dodgy company. Let’s not forget that this is the same company that doesn’t give a shit about FPV pilots.

[@MadRC]

That’s My opinion based on a lot of things I know in the background. For starters the hunger for an avatar BNF is not really there from the feedback I have had. Further more it’s user bases is much smaller than DJI and as a brand they are not that well known. It’s not a big deal as it simply will not affect them that much. They are largely a diy product for now. I don’t at all work with DJI or receive any benefit from DJI yet I do with CaddX. If I was going to be bias it would be incmy benefit to be bias to CaddX yet I am not. I presented this in the fairest way I could and gave my personal opinion. You may not agree but that your issue not mine.

[@MrD]

@@MadRC my opinion is that BnF manufacturers should be able to select the components they want to use by choice. Not by threats or blackmail. My opinion is that DJI’s attempt at monopoly would only lead to bad things for the hobby. If that’s regarded as an issue. I think there’s something very wrong with the other perspectives.

[@johnfig3196]

@@MrD do you have any evidence of blackmail or are you just yelling into the wind for the fun of it?

[@he214abc]

like tbs threaten frsky, frsky threaten jumper, now dji threaten caddx

[@spfpv6753]

NDA we may never know

[@deroskar]

I still dont belive this. Like i didnt belive that walksnail is owned or the same as dji in the past. The sales volume percentage of fpv goggles and air units is probably soooooo small compared to djis consumer drones, agriculture drones, and their sales with authorities or military and their sales shares with other companies. Ah and for shure thei have some subsidiary companys. But its nice tabloids.

[@thewhitedillard]

DJI is always behaving badly, they always have and they always will 👊

[@shadai7398]

Is it true? No idea. Would I be surprised if it was? Nope. Not at all. It's easy to believe that DJI would happily put their thumb on the scale if it meant making more money. Weird part about this that I don't understand is why. It's not like they care about our hobby. They've shown time and time again they could give two sh*ts what we think/want. Plus when you consider our entire hobby is pocket change to them compared to how they really make money and it just leaves me scratching my head. Nevertheless I'm pretty happy I don't fly DJI at all.

[@Crunklefloop]

Glad that during your impartial video you didnt result to product placement.... oh wait.

[@MadRC]

I put them there just to show people they exist and there will be a review coming. There is close to products in view in every angle of the studio. If you’re talking about product placement then I think I have everyone covered. And let me be clear they were already on my desk as o have been looking at them and though I’ll put them there as they look nice.

[@Crunklefloop]

@@MadRC please don't take it to heart, it's my dry sense of humour.

[@andreaspap]

it's not a coca cola vs pepsi war. its two chinese companies who give an answer to the chinese government. i will not feel bad for anyone. Money for china is the only motivation they have Ian

[@loganrush9775]

I can't believe caddix blacklisted Ian from reviewing the new avatar goggles

[@MadRC]

hahaha lol

[@JuanCintron]

Makes sense! That's the likely reason for this video - middle of the road sorta; but leaning more to the DJI side. 😂😂

[@rcfernando11]

DJI wont see my money, ever. I, sincerely, don't like this brand. Still flying analog, especially because, nowadays,I am flying more micros than my 5" fleet.

[@dinosabic5383]

Slimy of DJI. Super slimy. Hard to want to support a company like that.

[@londenard]

Yea it's almost as "slimy" as partnering with someone to use their system, copying it and then selling it as your own. ..

[@dinosabic5383]

@@londenard are you claiming Walksnail is a copy of DJI? Please elaborate. From what im aware, Avatar and O3 are vastly different systems with O3 being clearly superior. Competition breeds better products for consumers.

[@londenard]

@dinosabic5383 Kinda... but everyone should remember that DJI got into this bracket cold. There was zero competition, and they've made improvements twice before anyone else really even tried to do HD. We have seen this in camera drones as well. All the other companies are still trying to play catch-up. For the most part, DJI competes with themselves. I can't seriously point at Walksnail or HD zero and claim they are the reason DJI came out with the Goggles 2 and O3 Air Units. Those guys can barely compete with DJI Gen 1... they are hardy pushing DJI. Not to mention that it's no secret that DJI is almost ready to serve up Gen 4. To me, this is like LeBron James playing against a high school kid. Of course, James can't just leave the ball on the court and take a break, the kid would score but as long as he is on the court, the kid has little to no chance of winning. Edit, I didn't notice the first part. Caddx was manufacturing Air Units for awhile. They had access to all of DJI's hardware and software. Then they decided to produce their own system...

[@JThemelis]

Did anyone listen through the whole video? Business is business, Caddx made the first mistak, and say what you will dji makes an excellent product. This is a non issue

[@chriscflint]

I think DJI are not threatening any companies in any way. It is really simple (and part of what large selling companies do) is to say we (DJI) are only prepared to sell our products to exclusive dealers. If you choose to not want the exclusivity and work with them, your choice, then buy what you want.

[@AeeDee23]

GEPRC's decision to drop Avatar has nothing to do with DJI. LOL.

[@JeffWok]

This is why I'm not interested in DJI at all, ever.

[@austntexan]

It's the easiest thing in the world not to buy DJI. I'll go back to 1.3 before I fly DJI.

[@ugpfpv361]

"they stole from dji to make walksnail? LOL like none of those China tech companies do that

[@MadRC]

No one said they stole. Inspired by

[@ugpfpv361]

@@MadRC i was referring to the screen shots of the comments you showed...

[@retro93277]

lol it’s typical . It’s all rumors don’t believe everything you see on the internet

[@ctvxl]

Why anyone would support such an anti consumer company as DJI with their hard earned dollars is something I will never understand. DJI is a menace and has done its best to kill the hobby at every turn.

[@slappomatthew]

One more reason to avoid dji

[@BowserMG]

I don't get it. Why would DJI want more of an already big market share of digital systems. This conspiracy can also apply to HDZero not only Caddx, but you don't hear it. It's probably because they don't sell enough WS bnfs to justify continuing production.

[@elxero2189]

Are one company?... that sounds so wrong.. lol i think (is one company) anyways

[@flatphrat134]

DJI aka CCP

[@londenard]

Um. .. I thought all you FPV guys were so proud of building your own quads? Who in the hell was buying Walk Snail BNF drones? I'm guessing DJI offers exclusive discounts to manufactures with exclusive contracts. ..so? Oh I'm sure no other companies do that, so evil! Seriously, dry your tears and buy the drone without a VTX and install whichever one you want. Just reading these comments tells me none of you guys have ever run your own company.

[@MadRC]

Tbh I suspect as you say it’s pricing discounts and yes I largely agree it’s business.

[@RickLaBanca]

It depends on the circumstances, it can be considered anticompetitive. But these are Chinese companies so the ftc may not have much jurisdiction.

[@londenard]

@RickLaBanca The FTC? Giving discounts to premiere and loyal customers is a long-standing staple in business. There is nothing "illegal" about that. I remember the old "American" drone companies sobbing a similar tune back in the day. "Boo hoo, DJI is out selling us by providing consumers superior products for less than we can afford to sell our inferior devices. It's not fair! SNIFFLE..." China? Who here is stupid enough to think that American companies don't make the same kind of deals every day? The company I work for sells one brand predominantly, and in recognition for that loyalty, we get a larger discount. Besides, ever hear of franchises? Why do you think Home Depot only sells certain brands in their stores? Why GM cars come with one brand of tires, while Dodge or Ford uses another? Again, it's so painfully obvious that most of you have never run a business.

[@tmc-fpv]

Many noobs to the hobby prefer to get bnf for their first quad as a quick and easy path into the hobby. This type of behaviour limits and redirects their potential path. This is what I find most concerning.

[@slappomatthew]

As usual Ian shilling for dji and shitting on caddex. When’s jb back again? SMH

[@MadRC]

Bwahahahahahahahah you are delusional and desperate, I’m the one highlighting how bad DJI is not the other way.

[@rabbitambulance]

I agree

[@loganrush9775]

This never would happen if Ian Lewis was still on the Mad's Tech Team, RIP

[@johnfig3196]

Did you even watch the video peanut?

[@rkelley8475]

Dji as a company sucks ..I would never buy anything dji. Apple also