Is Dodgers' Shohei Ohtani the 'greatest living' baseball player? | Dan Patrick Show | NBC Sports

[@pjscafe]

He's the greatest, period. Living or dead.

[@razkable]

Babe ruth is the goat...if you want to say most talented maybe...barry bonds is the best ever

[@pjscafe]

@@razkable Ruth was never as good and Shohei and Bonds used roids. None had 50/50.

[@fabianavalos1386]

The Japanese Ivan Drago

[@acey9997]

@@fabianavalos1386 Without the cruelty, lol

[@cindymmm11]

Agree

[@JohnLee-gb8rx]

He is the GOAT just as a hitter alone for achieving 50/50. His passion is pitching, so imagine when he can hit and pitch at the same time. See the way he pitched out Trout who is one of the best hitter ever at the WBC? He is probably the greatest athletes in the 21st century if he keep this up for a few more seasons.

[@CharlesFristians]

greatest athlete going is max verstappen

[@bizzz.R]

Shohei always took the longer road, throughout his baseball career. Paid off big time. So inspirational!

[@chilltownallstar]

Yes he is. He’s on judges level at the bat and a top 5 pitcher. Also, idk why his base running isn’t valued as much fielder on defense. He runs more per game imo than any fielder out there. Walking Ohtani and or him hitting a single is just as goood as hittting a double or a triple because of his base stealing. Walking judge is a single, walking Ohtani is a probable double and or triple. To me Ohtani is the best and should never be downplayed as a DH because of his base running. Idk how these ppl calculate war but Ohtani should be a lot closer to judge than it appears. Judge is an above average fielder but not the best but Ohtani is one of if not the best base runner.

[@LL-tc1re]

Yeah formulas really need to be updated. I understand as a DH he gets a negative WAR so is actually penalized.

[@chilltownallstar]

@@LL-tc1re it’s dumb imo. A routine fly ball should not be valued as much as any stolen base.

[@kenshin521]

I’d say he’s slightly behind Judge in terms of hitting. But on the base pads and pitching puts him way over the top. Judge is an all time great, but I can see another hitter coming along and matching him. I don’t think you see another Ohtani in your lifetime.

[@GregMaizlish]

Shohei Ohtani is overpaid and overrated.

[@wholewheaties]

Judge is Negative 6 Outs Above Average, he's literally a BELOW avg fielder.

[@LL-tc1re]

That could be his next goal: getting CY young award same season as HR title.

[@chief6541]

good lord

[@niuchang7180]

20wins and 50HRs is OK for me

[@JunctioncityShowdown]

He has done for baseball what Michael Jordan did fir basketball Saved the game...... completely changed the landscape of the game FOREVER

[@George-f8h]

Ohtani, The Greatest SHOman.

[@johnnylis4347]

Mr. Ohtani the greatest baseball king

[@wholewheaties]

He's a culmination of all the greats that has inspired him to become who he is. Unlike Lefraud James who constantly refers to himself as the "King" or the "GOAT" or whatever superlative that feeds his ego, Ohtani is a class act. Like Jordan, he highly respects those who came before him and would never separate himself of this continuum of legends who helped evolve the game to what it is today.

[@itchyvalens]

He gets at least 20 steals when pitching too

[@pg8010]

How is this even a debate??

[@acey9997]

Because there still exist people who just have to nitpick and can't deal with others' greatness. I heard someone poopoo him because "he hasn't been fielding, won't earn a Golden Glove." As if he hasn't made amazing plays as a pitcher! He will excel at whatever capacity of the game he is limited to. He can't clone himself. Haters just gonna hate. The rest of us acknowledge greatness.

[@christianruvalcaba5332]

Yesss he definitely is

[@spottv7261]

Absolutely.

[@ohhnobb]

he is speed

[@cashrjr23]

he could be the MVP as a pitcher or hitter

[@yanchand3603]

YES HE IS....😊 NO DOUBT

[@chasefoster2803]

4 more hits and he'll be have the record for most gits in a season by dh

[@arcticredpanda4598]

Verducci confirms, Shohei is a mouthful.

[@bobbarns4516]

Indeed he is. And you won't see the likes of him for another 100 years...

[@razkable]

Barry bonds

[@islandrepublic9166]

@@razkableBONDS was great even with the ROIDS but Ill paint you a picture that BONDS will look like a peew league olayer comspred to OHTANI. 35 HR 35 SB 140 RBI…… 15 wins 200 STRIKEOUTS 3.25 ERA and thats being conservative with OHTANI. And then he is a 2-1 player so more than likely the team that he plays for will be able to add 2 superb players. Not even a debate bro.

[@acey9997]

@@islandrepublic9166 All that for sure -- and FWIW Bonds was kind of a jerk (maybe the roids?) while Shohei is the epitome of humility, grace and pure innocent joy in the game.

[@omarcamacho9286]

Whenever he takes the dodgers to the promise land we can start that conversation

[@islandrepublic9166]

One of the GREATEST. As of now. But give him maybe 4 YEARS with or without a World Series if he continues his notmal performance he stands alone. Even st a very conservative 4 yewr run. 35 HR 35 SB AVG .299 15 wins 198 SO 3.25 ERA. That will be SO ABSURD its not even a debate.

[@johnchieze530]

to date, i hardly notice anybody keeping judge off the dang plate with 99 mph chin music that ohtani seems to get every ab. maybe b/c they know dodgers never retaliate?

[@craigwheeler4760]

8:23 -- Even in Ted William's day, Shohei and the dodgers would have gone to the playoffs. Even if it's one team per league, and the WS or bust.. The Dodgers this year are the #1 seed in the NL!!

[@asdc-central2112]

yeah

[@ForestOfSleep]

Ichiro is the Greatest LIVING ballplayer.

[@Ron-n4j1l]

Who’s better?

[@finglo9521]

Correction start the 50 50 club lol

[@ladyhawke7034]

If you had to choose: Whom would you sign for your team? Judge or Ohtani ?

[@chilltownallstar]

@@ladyhawke7034 there’s no pitcher or hitter anyone with a brain should take over Ohtani. He’s the best at both because he does both at the highest level. It’s a no brainer.

[@ladyhawke7034]

@@chilltownallstar A no-brainer? Not for some so-called experts. I think that my question would shut down any discussions about who's greatest.

[@johndurrer7869]

He didn’t exactly have Tommy John, we don’t know how well this new surgery works yet

[@sushi-love]

if judge HR is adjusted to non-yankees stadium, how many discount per yr? approx. 5?

[@fabianavalos1386]

The Japanese Ivan Drago

[@BOBBYP1857]

Can't overlook The Judge,plays a good outfield and a Triple Crown contender.

[@boxingandbulldogs6341]

How is this even a debate??? Of course he is.

MLB…Ohtani NFL…Mahomes NBA…Curry Golf…Who TF cares

[@wholewheaties]

When Mahomes get's a vote for defensive player of the year When Curry wins defensive player of the year Otherwise let's not even compare.

[@Squashed8Ball]

This list must be active players not living players. No way it’s right otherwise.

[@MP-mn6we]

I will take Jokic over Curry. But rest looks fine

[@acey9997]

LOL about gold. My partner would disagree, but I agree! :D

[@snowman9642]

Bonds is still the greatest hitter, they straight up didn’t pitch to him. We’ll see if Ohtani can still be a good pitcher when he comes back.

[@RaiBaran-gn6dv]

Better than barry bonds?

[@joec.5009]

Fair or not fair, he was a juicer. definitely a greatest hitter, but his legacy is definitely tainted. So was mcguire and sosa. by the way, Ohtani is the greatest player, but not the greatest hitter.

[@stevest8675]

Definitely. Bonds is a cheating steroid man.

[@JohnLee-gb8rx]

Can Barry Bond pitch at CY Young level?

[@wheelcalls]

​@@JohnLee-gb8rxNope but he could play outfield at a gold glove level

[@JohnLee-gb8rx]

@@wheelcalls I'm not a hardcore baseball fan. I only watch baseball cos of Shohei (can Bond bring in millions of new fan worldwide? Doubt it) but I'm pretty sure pitching and hitting is more important than fielding same with cricket which is the sport that baseball is actually based on.

[@KillenEMsoftly]

He's not better than Barry Bonds

[@roymurray2516]

He's better then Barry Bonds hands Down 😂

[@JaimeTanner-b2i]

Bonds couldn't pitch at all.

[@hustlecrowe9440]

Dan Patrick REALLY hates black baseball players

[@marksstudio]

Ha! maybe he's just doing his own version of DEI

[@martinrodriguez2351]

No he’s not

[@ForestOfSleep]

Bench is better, Ichiro is better, Pudge Rodriguez is better, I could go on. 50 stolen bases with bigger bases and 2 pickoff moves... Give me a break.