Is Dolby Atmos a Gimmick? His First PROPER Dolby Experience!

Is Dolby Atmos a Gimmick? His First PROPER Dolby Experience!
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[@Ulti_Omega]

I experienced a similar feeling when watching scenes in a high tier theater. Immediately after getting home I played the same scenes because they were so much different and was blown away with how much my theater was missing. It may/may NOT have cause me to rebuild my entire theater to replicate the experience. You don’t know what you’re missing until you know. Once you know there’s no going back ;)

[@Jayj070523]

I couldn’t agree with you more, from my humble pioneer 5.1 setup to slowly building with a mashup of different speakers. I enjoyed every iteration of each setup, each new speaker and sub adding a bit of excitement to the journey. After finally owning my end game setup, I know it’s not perfection, but I surely love my 7.2.6 full SVS setup.

[@JavonDGreen]

I love this Youthman. You are the absolute best. It’s so cool to see you open your home up to other enthusiasts to keep the love for our hobby alive. I love your message to enjoy the journey. I started out with a soundbar. Then went to a klipsch system. Then switched to Emotiva. I then built a brand new home with a dedicated room using focal in walls. The journey has been great. However I’m not done yet. Thanks for the content brother.

[@Youthman]

Thank you for the kind words Javon.

[@Scott-Kat]

2 cool dudes hanging out! That’s what’s up!!

[@Youthman]

That indeed is what’s up

[@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker]

One of my all-time favourite KZbin-guy's journeys is from that old initial photo of Michael's room with that micro-TV to where it is now. Stay grounded, dream big, and enjoy every step of the way.

[@juleocan]

I can listen to youthman for hours!!!...feels like family...I thank God for having you in this world and specially in this hobby....

[@Youthman]

Thank you bro. Means a lot to me.

[@jadan2000]

My Guy Tim! So glad you got to spend time over there!

[@bassage13]

Atmos is a gimmick when used in a sound bar, headphones or "upfiring" speakers. In a real Atmos setup, it's amazing with the right movie.

[@ronmurphy4234]

It's still a gimmick to sell speakers and amps... just like having all the subwoofers. When you "see" an object going from speaker to speaker, that's not a good system... with a good system, you NEVER see the speakers because every thing blends into a bubble of sound where the viewer is immersed.

[@Youthman]

When the lights go out, you don’t see any of my speakers

[@MrBjorn6]

I have Atmos setup in my basement with Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 soundbar with an AWOL 3000 pro 120 inch self rising screen. I have heard Ready player One, Ambulance, Beekeeper, and Leon The professional streaming on Vudu on volume of 35. it completely blew away my lossless setup in my master bedroom with my Nakamichi shockwafe SSE Earc 9.2.4 with 1300 watts. I'd give the Nakaimichi dragon 99.5 out of 100..I haven't even setup my system correctly yet. I haven't pushed my system yet. The last thing I played was Taylor Swift Eras tour on Disney plus. It was next level and felt I was at the concert and I was only playing it at 35% of volume. The next soundbar that's Next level is the Sony Quad theatre that's supposed to be next level especially with the additional subwoofer.. It's supposed to be extremely immersive especially with Sony 360 software. it just came out and getting fantastic reviews.

[@Zachary_Setzer]

​@@ronmurphy4234Yep. And HDR is a gimmick to sell TVs. Also, refrigerators are a gimmick to sell more milk.

[@MrBjorn6]

@@Zachary_Setzer Summer is a gimmick to sell air conditioning?

[@GeorgeTheaterAtHome]

Great video! Sharing our home theaters with others is always such a fun time. Love hearing how much he enjoyed your theater.

[@jonatanlago4149]

One thing Tim says here when he talks about an air show, where the sound is felt in the whole body... That's how you really want to hear (feel) the sound at home. It should be felt. Great episode guys!

[@garyausten5939]

~ 11:00 Combining my SPL120 and my newest addition, my RP-1200SW is insane! When I watched Interstellar for the first time a few weeks ago on Prime or Apple TV (forgot which one) small items on one speaker (RP-1200SW) fell on the floor and I almost dumped my LF, which was on a 3-legged stool on top of the SPL120, due to the vibrations. During the wormhole scene I was worried the subs would explode the drivers were experiencing such wild excursions!!! Of course I felt it, too :) Sometimes I move my chair a few feet closer to the TV so I try to get better Atmos, since the rear speakers (RP500SAs) are only about a foot behind my head and a bout 5 ft to each side.

[@adriangoins8404]

GREAT VIDEO!! I have never seen anyone else do this from another user's point of view and unbiased opinion. Well done.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Adrian.

[@tylery85]

Great video! I really appreciate the sentiment of enjoying the journey of a new hobby/passion because it can be incredibly intimidating to get into something new when you see others so much further in their journey who have the knowledge, experience, and budget beyond your current scope. Sometimes it can be discouraging and hard to enjoy the progress you have made when you feel you do not have the access you need to reach that level. This is true for home theater, but really any interest. I liked how many times throughout the video there were old photos of your room, the 19" screen and various level of speakers, the room being built out, etc. Very encouraging. The other part of this video I thought was important was in the end when you discuss the connection with people of similar interests. Tim really made a great point that it doesn't matter who you are or where you are at in your own home theater progress. As long as you are passionate about it, you will be part of the community. Encouraging beginners and offering tips on how to make things better for those on a budget or working with an odd space is so important. Lot of takeaways from this video that I think transcend far beyond home theater. Very cool.

[@Youthman]

Thank you for the kind words.

[@Prerich45]

Different... excellent Michael!!!! After we finish some home improvements, I may take you up on the offer to check my system out. In the meantime, I will be down your way next year for FLAX. I still remember our old Klipsch forum days!

[@jsclayton]

"Done is better than perfect" Amen to that! I was overly stressed to get my room "right" the first time, in the "right" order. Once I got beyond that mindset I've very much been enjoying iterating on the room. 6 months in and I've just now added the screen...I'd been projecting on the grey wall so that I could play with size and position!

[@Youthman]

Awesome brother!

[@eisythetrackstud]

Awesome video, really liked the honesty at the end around it being a primary job v side hustle and why.

[@StillAProudAmerican-ll2yc]

I would love to hear this scene at your theater. It may be the best recorded and accurate recording I've ever heard. It's the scene in Tom Cruise's awful "War Of The Worlds" when the residents are on the street corner before that machine comes out of the ground. The rumbling, the sound of glass from the church windows shattering on the pavement sounds like real glass. Then, that thing starts chasing people and vaporizing them, great surround effects but when Cruise is hiding behind a parked car and that thing steps on the car, OMG. It sounds like a real car accident in your house!!!

[@PlayerOne101.]

I want someone like you with a good base and knowledge of the sounds in atmos to try out impulcifer. It’s a free program that can use your setup and your individual ears/head shape to recreate the room onto headphones. It’s not the gimmicky 7.1 headphones either. You just need a decent pair of headphones in ear mics and an interface with pc.

[@robertrobitaille320]

Great videos, its not a gimmick Dolby Atmos or even DTS-X. Had dought on it. Just have a media room for my home cinema. A 5.2.2 with all the different upgrade I did would not go back if truly worth it. Your movies are brought to another level often better in my place than at movies theater.

[@pierrejackson1830]

Nice setup. Is it possible for you to list the 8 movies you demo.

[@Rockovissi]

Dolby Atmos headphones are a gimmick, but 9 speakers or more probably setup and calibrated, totally valid. It adds so much more. The whole room becomes enveloped in sound.

[@edgarcabrera7230]

As I built my home theater room, I watched you and learned what was what. I still have lots to learn. You spoiled me. That being said, my brother saw my room and now I spoiled him. We’re in between you Michael, he’s in Northport and I’m in Orlando. I’m hoping one day we can all see each others theatre room. Of course yours is done ( Michael), mine is 98% done and my brothers is 75% done. Yeb, what a journey

[@homeaudiobasics]

My room is approx 14x15x7ish about 3ft from the back wall is a steel beam that supports the main floor. As a result i was sure a projector wouldnt work. Then I saw the new Epson laser Short throw. Bright bright brighr sales floor ar NFM and i am absolutely floored by how bright and colorful it is and think it would be perfect for my light controled room.

[@nedkulic2164]

Great interview Michael, Love the emphasis on Fun creating..... 👊😎👍

[@firmbutton6485]

I have a cinema set up from 2012 and still very happy with it. But my receiver is an old onkyo 5009 that still sounds amazing. I have four infinite baffle manifolds in my ceiling, could I mount atmos speakers inside those so they are hidden but above me?

[@joekool5676]

Hello Youthman, I love your videos. Two questions regarding your setup. First, where do you crossover your speakers to the subwoofers. Second are both of your JTR RS2 subwoofers in front with no subs in the back of the room? Thanks

[@Youthman]

When I had the Marantz AV7706, I had my LCR crossover at 60Hz. Anthem AVM70 set them to 80Hz and I haven’t bothered with changing them to see if there is any difference. No subs in rear due to limited space.

[@leroylang8613]

I really enjoyed this video! Two really good guys enjoying the hobby is what it’s all about.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Leroy

[@bboyspawn5891]

Sooooo... I do not have a dedicated room. My setup is in my living room, that opens up into my kitchen off to the side. My current AVR is only a 7 channel AVR. As of right now I only have 2 speakers for Atmos/Height. They are not on the ceiling yet. I have them sitting on my towers facing up. My main listening area is further back closer to the back wall and I have two couches along each side wall. Where do you recommend I put my two height speakers for the time being? Front stage up high? Mid way on ceiling or high wall? Or One front, one back middle ceiling? Or any other suggestion. Room is a rectangle with angled ceilings. I will be upgrading my AVR eventually to a 11 or 13 channel.

[@benrub]

I really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you for sharing this video.

[@Youthman]

Thanks Ben

[@unknownspectre]

I'm building my first home theater system (DIY speakers and subs)... My house is on a slab, and the tactile response from the bass is CRAZY with my dual PSS555's and 2x Ultimax 18's. My home literally shakes, inside and outside. I've actually rattled off a flood light outside. If I'm "missing out" or losing tactile response because I'm on a slab, I honestly don't know what more y'all are getting that I'm not.

[@roywarnerfilms]

Your house is shaking, but your concrete slab is not. If you were on a suspended floor the floor would shake significantly more and those vibrations would be felt in your seating. Transducers can re-create this, but nothing beats that natural pressurized response across the board. You can accomplish this by putting your seating up on risers. It won't go as far as a fully suspended floor (though you could do that, too) but it'd be a noticeable difference.

[@EdG-p1q]

Does anyone use the beginning of Bladerunner as demo? When i use it people always say they never heard that before... whats your experience?

[@Youthman]

That’s a fantastic movie for demos

[@Youthman]

It’s $34.99 on Kaleidescape so I’m waiting until it drops to $14.99.

[@saundrasmith7368]

Great job Tim

[@edgarcabrera7230]

You guys talking about this, gives me goosebumps

[@romeallen]

Love the video learned to use same speakers

[@eyefly001]

that "office blanket" is awesome!

[@danielholmes5842]

Thanks for all your info you have help me a lot with my home theater just wanted to let you know to whatch godzilla minus one in dolby atmos I think you will enjoy Thanks again for all your videos

[@McNastyest]

Great video Youthman

[@Youthman]

Thanks!

[@DennisnCA59]

Man ty, Was awsome Video. Even tho i live in apt, Soon to be in a house. i will be building a system there..Love your videos so inspiring and wholesome. QUESTION can you tell me demos u2 did plz?

[@kevinbirchfield3005]

Another great video! Could you do an updated walkthrough video soon covering your full setup. It’s been a few years I believe I would love to see all the upgrades

[@Youthman]

I definitely need to do that Kevin. It’s been way too long pretty much. Everything has changed in my set up since the last home theater tour lol I just need to find the time.

[@danielholmes5842]

Thanks for all your info you help me a lot in my home theater just wanted to let know check out godzilla minus one in dolby atmos I think you will enjoy it

[@byronb.]

I see all movies almost exclusively in Dolby Cinema. Very few movies make proper use of ATMOS unfortunately. When done properly, it's very cool. Dolby Cinema also includes butt kickers which is a nice augmentation.

[@gary1488]

Where are you from? Cool interview

[@michaelalfredson4246]

I love this. Two great gents!

[@jimlev]

Does KZbin support Atmos and HDR/Vision now?

[@donjaun540]

He has an amazing expensive system. He is just missing maybe some more subs and Atmos speakers. 👍😎

[@guillermomartin8248]

Do you use a video processor or anamorphic lens for the 2.35 screen? Especially for Maverick with that aspect ratio switching. Curious because I just got a 2.35 screen and seriously considering switching it out to 16:9.

[@witness6582]

What receiver are you running and what are your thoughts on a 7 channel Atmos avr should I run a 5.2.1 or 7.1 until I can upgrade my avr I have slowly been purchasing the speakers needed over the last 3 years and now have all of them needed to run a 7.4.2 but dropping 3-5k on a 11.2 avr is going to take some more time until then

[@mvgiles45]

This was awesome! Man I tell you, it's the journey that creates knowledge and wisdom, the excitment comes after understanding the concepts of it all. Excellent video!

[@jcfitch3194]

Totally agreed with his assessment and opinions of ATMOS. It was a complete gimmick to me... then I heard it properly implemented and I was hooked.

[@Youthman]

It’s all about proper implementation and calibration.

[@ZeroResonancy]

Great Vid. Maaaaan I'm on the sam boat as Tim with "not wanting to like projectors" because If I got one, I know I'm gonna want to have a projector that costs $25k. I know I want my speakers behind the screen. I know I want my screen to be 13ft wide lol. I know I can tolerate the "downgrade" in contrast that comes with a projector but... it's just that price that gets me.

[@Youthman]

Epson LS12000 might be a good option. It doesn’t have the inky blacks that JVC has, but it’s still a fantastic projector.

[@ZeroResonancy]

@@Youthman I'll have to check it out!

[@RedEye19]

I miss AC-3.

[@scott1063]

The key phrase is “when done properly”.

[@garryhammond3117]

Great interview Michael! - Thanks! - Cheers!

[@socool8860]

Loved this video

[@SavageListener]

As much as I love movies and surround sound, I just can't justify running all the equipment and losing living room space for a normal home. Also, hollywood movies are just not as good anymore. Im currently running a 5.1 set up on a 7.1 AVR. Movies rarely activate the rear speakers so i may eventually go back to 2.1 stereo since i mostly play music, but movies in stereo are still enjoyable.

[@Youthman]

Oh, for sure not everyone is going to put forth the time, effort and money in installing a full Dolby Atmos setup. I run a simple 2.1 in my living room setup but for movies, we love watching in our theater room.

[@leroylang8613]

It’s definitely not for everyone, I have buddies that are into two channel music and the have no desire for home theater and vice versa! You have to follow your passion.

[@supanige]

Great to see fellow enthusiasts get together and just give real talk :) Keep it up guys !!

[@Youthman]

Thank you kindly

[@akiepapageorgiou9806]

Great vid, I'm getting atmos this week witch sceen in top gun or time stamp to get best experience

[@Foxhound11]

Hi, how would you know if your subs performing at lower frequency below the 20hz, like the svs sb16-ultra

[@Youthman]

measure with REW and a calibrated mic

[@scottfriend4923]

Amazing story and interaction. Kudos to you Michael!

[@Youthman]

Thanks Scott. It was a lot of fun.

[@dirtymotley9048]

I finally got to hook up my atmos this past weekend. I have a mish mash of speakers. Sony 7000es 5.1 Klipsch from Costco. I use the bookshelf for my sides. I picked up some B&W tower at goodwill for my rears and got a free sub from a client that I had to replace the caps. Man I’m happy all I need now is to fix my Sheetrock and I’ll be happy

[@kewlbug]

Do a video where mike and Tim switch outfits

[@VividTheater]

Tim Turner gave an awesome and valid reason why projectors are the best for movie enjoyment: the ability to hide the speakers behind the screen, which increases immersion. Tim was far more immersed in the film when he didn’t see the speakers, and I 100% agree with him. Projectors also offer other benefits over TVs, such as larger screen sizes for a true cinematic experience, better eye comfort in low-light environments, and the flexibility to create a custom-sized screen based on your space.

[@Youthman]

All valid points.

[@BigDavos]

Love the vid youthman!

[@Youthman]

Thank you kindly.

[@ec4146]

Not a gimmick but very few are done correctly

[@Youthman]

Very possible

[@sliknik1966]

Love it! my endgame goals

[@michaelmarquez6133]

Wait, am I able to go check out that system too? That would be awesome! I’ve never experienced a real system before

[@GATURKS]

Wow!! I would love to hear more of Tim's perspective on theatre systems, movies and more!!! Makes you want to hear Youthman's theatre for yourself!!!!!! Love the collab YOU GUYS SHOULD DO MORE!!!

[@Youthman]

Unfortunately we will have to wait until he’s on vacation again in Florida

[@GATURKS]

@@Youthman does he also have a youtube channel?

[@Youthman]

Not yet

[@Youthman]

He is the Admin for JTR Facebook Group

[@lightningwaves5436]

I have a very serious question for you, Mr Youthman. I keep hearing home theater enthusiasts go on and on about those 20 hertz and below frequencies. Aren't MOST home theaters too SMALL to feel and hear those long wavelengths? 😢

[@Youthman]

I don’t know the science behind it but I can assure you my room feels drastically different than rooms I’ve been in that do not dig near as deep.

[@EverythingHomeTheater]

Nice guy

[@Youthman]

One of the nicest I have met.

[@dempseylewis4143]

How much does your whole room cost

[@Youthman]

MSRP would be around $80,000, not counting the custom cabinet.

[@junior-OG]

@@Youthman 👀

[@totalplonker824]

"$80,000" for that price, I hope you're not using false economy cables.

[@Youthman]

Monoprice, Ruipro…nothing fancy needed. Copper is copper and digital are Ones and Zeros. They either work or they don’t.

[@TerminatorJuice]

Good discussion fellas! And I agree that the guys on your podcast can get pretty deep in the weeds sometimes, and it makes me feel like I don't know what I'm doing, which can be somewhat deflating.

[@Youthman]

Never be deflated. Yes it as an opportunity to learn something new. The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don’t know.

[@TerminatorJuice]

@@Youthman I just like watching movies and shows, so when guys like Jonathan start going super in-depth about speaker stuff, it's hard for me not to feel like we are in two different hobbies! Lol

[@Youthman]

Same hobby, just two different focuses.

[@timothymahlobogoane3141]

This is Woow! I just need advice pertaining the speakers without overloading the receiver.

[@gary4593]

Great video clip I enjoy watching about cinema product.

[@shaolin95]

Get hovereze and hoverback and you will exprience things crowsons or anything else can only dream about.

[@Victor-i4g4u]

I have a used marantz cinema 70 S home theater receiver and new 5.1 surround sound system from M&k

[@Youthman]

Nice!

[@Victor-i4g4u]

@@Youthman thank you

[@totalplonker824]

If you don't mind me asking.. what's the price comparison between the Marantz cinema 70 and the m&k speakers?

[@Victor-i4g4u]

If you are asking about marantz 70s it’s $1000 something and m& k speakers that I have is entry level of m&k price for speakers about $1000 or $2000

[@brucecarter6205]

This goes to show what a difference the room can make, and every room is different. The more space you have to pressurize, the more subs you will need. So many variables at play though.

[@Youthman]

For sure.

[@YOKOOL66]

Once again! Another KOOL VIDEO!

[@totalplonker824]

Object-based audio (Dolby Atmos) is great for movies. However, when it comes to object-based audio for music. Un my experience, one would be better off sticking with two channel stereo. An avid Music Lover. (Lossless appreciator)

[@ericreese4606]

“When done properly” is the key. The Jurassic Park 4k Blu-ray (I know it’s DTS X, but same idea in my 7.2.4 setup) is a great example of both. When T-Rex was overhead looking down at the SUVs in the outbreak scene, the roar coming from the top felt a bit gimmicky. Cool, but kinda felt like 3-D gimmickry is at times. But later, when the flock of dinos were running along with Alan and the kids, that mixing was such an immersive experience that it couldn’t help but smile.

[@Youthman]

Tim was mainly referring to the setup, rather than the content.

[@ericreese4606]

Yes, and I’d agree that good equipment, setup and calibration are very important to making Atmos enjoyable. Thanks!

[@Snskch3]

I am really curious how the JTR speaker compare to the new svs ultra evolution pinnacle and the new svs elevations. Any idea how they compare?

[@Youthman]

They are not designed to compete with JTR. Two completely different leagues. JTR 212 HTR vs SVS Ultra Evolution Pinnacle Sensitivity: 101dB vs 88dB Output: 134dB vs probably nowhere near that Power Handling: 2,000 watts RMS vs 300 watts RMS Compression Driver vs 1" tweeter Woofers: (2) 12" woofers vs (4) 8" woofers Keep in mind that the coaxial driver alone in a JTR speaker cost over $900 four years ago when I visited their headquarters. I'm quite confident SVS doesn't have a single component in the Evolution series that cost near that much.

[@Snskch3]

@@Youthman thank you Michael. That really helps me. I have a JTR Captivator 4000 sub and absolutely love it. I just didn’t know much about the compression driver. I love a forward, energetic sound hence why I have the Klipsch rf7iiis. But I have the bug to upgrade. I may have to go with the JTR and do it is smaller chunks since it will be more pricey. But that’s a fun journey.

[@AudioGearhead]

I have never meet anyone else with the passion for this stuff in person. I watch all of the guys making KZbin videos, so I know I'm not the only one but I do feel the, "loneliness." I'll be doing some big upgrades here in a couple weeks and I'll try and make some better videos of my own. I do enjoy watching your journey YouthMan!

[@Youthman]

I made a video 3 months ago on that very subject - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp-6c6Z5p5d9r8Usi=4tKaL3gzsR_7ZEmE. We would love to have you join us for MWAVE next month. It’s designed to create opportunities to meet new people in the hobby.

[@AudioGearhead]

@@Youthman I would absolutely love to come out but I'll be coming back from a deployment and spending much needed time with the family. I do plan on making my rounds next year to Axpona and MWAVE if all works out.

[@myhometheater7029]

Brother that’s the same question I get all the time! Do I have butt kickers? My theater is on a slab?

[@agordon7369]

Michael are you going to give your input on the AVM 70 that you took in for review or did I miss it somehow? I love watching your reviews and would love to make MWAVE one day.

[@Youthman]

Yes sir. My goal is to have it completed before Friday and posted on Sunday.

[@agordon7369]

@@Youthman awesome I really appreciate it, I lost my sub due to a flood in the basement and my x3600h center channel preout has a short in it so I’m looking at replacing the receiver first. Anthem has been on the top of my list also debating on the new Sony since I have a really awkward room that everything is going into.

[@michaeljohnson3068]

i love your videos. unfortunately i can't make it to mwave this year. i have a question, 1 captivator 4000 ulf or 4 monolith m-15v2's? they are similar in price and wattage. i think i would need 2 capitvators. for the same price i could get 8 monoliths. i'm currently running 2 m-15v2's and 2 svs pb1000's. i believe its hitting around 100db's at 10hz. the svs subs need to go, i'm very concerned about damaging them even turned down 7db's. i have been looking into 21" diy subs also. any thoughts would be appreciated. thanks.

[@Youthman]

I am a huge fan of JTR. The 4000 ULF is one of the baddest subs on the planet. That would be my vote. You pretty much cannot destroy it.

[@LeeLee-fi7mx]

My vote is for a diy 21 inch or bigger sealed sub. Never have to worry about port noises, less group delay and smaller cabinet vs ported. In particular I would go with a One Audio ht-24 subwoofer. 24 inch subwoofer driver with 36mm of one way xmax at a reasonable price.

[@michaeljohnson3068]

@@Youthman i had a feeling you were going to go with the jtr's. they are pricey, then again everything in that class is. i really wanted to get to mwave and experince them. looks like i have to get back to work so i can buy bigger subs. lol. thanks

[@michaeljohnson3068]

@@LeeLee-fi7mx one audio ht-24 nice. never heard of them but i like the specs. jtr - diy ? we'll see. now i have more options to consider. thanks for the info.

[@Youthman]

DIY can certainly save you a lot of money if you are handy. Or look at GSG audio Flat Packs.

[@alessioscoda5839]

Gran turismo is a good track...

[@Youthman]

Yes sir! That’s on my Kaleidescape demo. 👍

[@Ulgarth84]

I don’t think I ever noticed any big difference between Dolby atmospheres cinema and THX cinema. The soundscape is encompassing me in both. Maybe im just spoiled with a great THX certifies cinema locally.

[@gaurd3]

Takes time.

[@asianskywalker]

Disagree. I've sat in very high end cinemas including several IMAX theatres and atmos is a gimmick. Adds very little to the point of being negligable.

[@Youthman]

I welcome you to demo my Home Theater to see for yourself if it’s a gimmick.

[@FortyTwoAnswerToEverything]

I live in a 20x10 studio/efficiency apartment. My venue projector (Mitsubishi UD8400U) takes up the whole wall on the other end. Wish I had big sound to match the big picture but the Karens in my building will definitely complain to the manager.

[@ronmurphy4234]

Simple question... when a rock hits the water using Dolby ATMOS, do you hear the effect of the rock and the ripples in the water hitting other objects? People who rave about ATMOS are into big bang movies, they like to see the helicopter flying across the room, but that "object" is self contained and doesn't reflect off other objects.

[@Youthman]

Atmos speakers typically play content that happens above you or music score to create an enveloping sound. Why would you hear ripples of water when that is happening in front of you on the screen? You should hear those sounds from your LCR which would represent how you would hear it in real life.

[@ronmurphy4234]

@@Youthman You miss the point, the use of a HT is to put the user into an event... and not segment the event into a series of "objects" that fly around the room... in a good system, there's no such thing as an LCR, just the event... I don't care what speaker is playing the sound when they are all blended into a bubble of sound. Play the movie Open Range (2003), in the opening scene your in the middle of an open range in Montana (but actually Alberta, Canada) , there's a thunderstorm off in the distance, you can hear the wheat rustling in the wind, that's nuance when you can't tell what speaker is playing the sound.

[@Youthman]

I’m fully aware of the purpose of a HT. But in your illustration, there would be zero reason to hear a ripple from water in the Atmos channels. You are correct, the goal of Atmos isn’t to direct attention to those channels, but rather provide a seamless, immersive experience.

[@salvatorecarapazza248]

Wow, you must get a massive amount of negative comments to list rules for posting comments. Never seen that before on a legitimate KZbin channel like yours. Kind of nervous to even leave a comment. Thought we lived in America. Were the demos derived from physical media or Kaleadascape? Just curious if the demos were highly compressed versions of the movies by steaming. Thank you.

[@ogpirons]

Gonna let my wife know that 2 12" woofers aren't enough and i may have to pull the trigger on the 4800h so i can have 4 overhead speakers.

[@jvcalleja]

So it's not a gimmick right? But if the movie is not properly mixed with an atmos track it defies the purpose right? To me it's not a game changer...that's just me though to each his own.

[@Youthman]

Atmos is 100% not a gimmick. Not all movies with Atmos have great mixes. Complete game changer when done right.

[@jvcalleja]

@@Youthman opinion and I respect that but to me it's not game changing at all.

[@bkrhino1]

Nice video. If you have an unfinished ceiling or feel the return on investment would be worth paying someone to do in ceiling speakers, it probably would add to your system. In my case, my expenses would not provide the additional experience compared to the monetary / time required. Good that you are open to having enthusiasts over to discuss the hobby. Job well done.

[@ben23a31]

✊🏼

[@oblivion_007]

I dont understand when people say "if done correctly, atmos is not a gimmick'.. So these billion dollar hollywood studios not giving importance to sound department in most films!!?

[@Youthman]

Tim was comparing his Atmos setup to what he experienced in mine. When a room is setup properly for Atmos, it’s an incredible experience. Not every movie that is mixed in Atmos is created equal.

[@QuantumMan]

The audio for most movies is one of the last things done in post-production. So due to budget and time constraints the audio can be rushed or not given the time and effort it deserves.

[@Youthman]

100%. Not all Atmos mixes are created equal. But when they are done right, it’s magical.

[@oblivion_007]

@@QuantumMan i think they only needs half the money they pay to actors for that!

[@MaxTheMiracle]

Recently I upgraded My Studio Theater to Denon A1H , all SVS Ultras , couldnt be Happier, BUT ATMOS as it is advertised is full of Gimmic, Apple Music SPATIAL AUDIO?.???? Total Lie, its stereo lossless at best.- They Say its Object based, when its clearly NOT object Based.- Windows can not support more than 7.1.4, how is this the case, if it is Object Based and not Channel Based? My A1H could make the missing Channels that windows does not support , but somehow Atmos signal from Windows is 9.1.6, but couldnt matrix in Real Time the Two missing? i cant have a definite answer from Dolby but its really weird.- Also PS5 does something similar, but it doesnt upmix the old games, so you end up Loosing Height if you choose Atmos as Output, BUT the game does not support it i dont understand really, it seems there are so few of us, that they only care in Advertise ATMOS everywhere, and not making it work ANY where

[@housbinpharteen7445]

Yes so true its all about the journey... like i said before ... before surround even came out, i has speaker B as surrounds .... lol i guess i was ahead of my time

[@GB-je5tc]

Good for you Michael, identical takes it to that next level of believability... 🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰🥰🫡🫡