Is Elive The Best Linux Distro Ever?

Elive is a Debian-based Linux distro that uses the old E16 window manager. A lightweight yet powerful distro, Elive markets itself as "maybe the best Linux OS ever made." Does it live it to the hype? I'm going to take a quick look at Elive 3.8.16 beta.
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[@censoredterminalautism4073]

It's not about using the best distribution, it's about using the one that makes you feel the most superior to other people.

[@DistroTube]

Spotted the Arch user! :D

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

​@@DistroTube Arch is not good enough. Not even Gentoo is good enough anymore. I need something that will allow me to dab on Gentoo users. Maybe I should try Exherbo, or just go straight to Linux From Scratch!

[@WafflesOinc]

Arch is for noobs, real linux users use Linux From Scratch

[@SimGunther]

That's what LFS is for...

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

@@kadixfox It is commonly known that installing 9front will immediately give you aids.

[@mattheworndoff5788]

This was by far the most fun distro I've ever messed around with. Was able to run this on an old Thinkpad x61s from 2007 and things were snappy as hell. Extremely impressive distro.

[@Thanatermesis]

🥰

[@Prophet6000]

I think free is fine for the OS but an option to donate is good.

[@tyh2989]

That would be a good idea for Slackware.

[@mindright9771]

Ok. I have to admit. You got me on the "Best Linux Distro Ever" tag line. I had to click to find out just how good this thing was and to my surprise, it is quite intriguing. I do have nightmarish flashbacks in configuring all the cool Conky features but I really enjoyed the challenge back in the day. I may give this a download just to play with for old time sake. Thanks DT!

[@Thanatermesis]

😁

[@danoblue]

I use the 32-bit version for an old Lenovo netbook and it works better than other 32-bit distros I installed on it, so it has become my distro of choice for that machine. And since I was happy with it, I didn't mind giving a donation.

[@Thanatermesis]

❤

[@Tearnalte]

Palemoon is not old, it's updated very frequently. It just is BASED ON an old version of Mozilla. Which makes it great for old computers

[@krozareq]

Distro reviews: all about the GUI and preinstalled packages. Can do this stuff easily and quickly on any major distribution. The term distro has become too broad. Most of these are "preconfigured DE/WM of X distro." I guess that's why I never really understood distro hopping. Almost all of these are using someone else's packages. Packaging is what really matters and where most of the work is involved.

[@jmanabc]

Yes I noticed this! He was basically just reviewing the initial config, and when he said this distro would be great for AV editors just because it came with audacity and a video editor it actually ticked me off.

[@btschaegg]

This. With a title like this, I'd expect something akin to NixOS or Guix, not "Debian with other GUIs".

[@cyberp0et]

Do you use Arch, btw? ;)

[@theincrediblehulk2865]

Nice and informative video! Well done DistroTube!

[@penguin272]

Thank you for revieving this small and wonderful distro. I started with enli back in the late 90 when it all began. I am just typing this by using elive - a nice combination - enli + debian

[@Thanatermesis]

😛

[@techma82]

Me: Starts video. "Oh, interesting!" Video: "Elive is a debian based distribution" Me: nvm

[@jasonleo]

Trueeee, don't like old stuff

[@Kodeb8]

Exactly my reaction

[@Kodeb8]

@Sagres d'Amor Debian prioritizes stability over functionality, and they have an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality. This causes a ton of incompatibility issues when trying to run modern software that takes advantages of newer hardware.

[@sinisasinkovic4334]

@@jasonleo switch to testing repo

[@thecashewtrader3328]

This

[@Jay-zc6op]

i actually liked the terminal a lot, it has a nice theme and its cool when it flashes red when you use an invalid command

[@2fast4u288]

Elive??? omg blast from the past lol.. used to love this distro like 10+ years ago... their logo has changed so much

[@RighteousMane]

> Distrohops 8 times in 24 Hours > “I’ll never hop again!" > “… but this distro may be the best distro ever made, though!” Never change, DT.

[@timo4379]

Hello DT , I rewatched the video on ELIVE Linux and downloaded it and totally enjoying it and wanted to say Thank You for all of the information that you give to all of us.

[@DistroTube]

Thanks, Tim!

[@timo4379]

@@DistroTube DT hope to see you on a live stream with TOS soon , that's how I met you my friend. Stay safe and till next time .

[@DistroTube]

I definitely need to do that!

[@peterbaylor7132]

I'm a 68 year old who was actually just looking for something that looked good, real eye-candy, and have everything working out of the box. I tried a few linux versions before coming across Elive. I liked it immediately. With the other linux version I couldn't get my printer to print - worked immediately. Just clicking around and looking what elive could do was enjoyable and I didn't notice the time go by. Everything I need is there without having to read up on how to get it working. *****

[@apoorv9492]

Personality and Class is what's lacking in today's DE, WM and GUI in general.

[@marioschroers7318]

Awesome that you're getting back to reviewing distros. I even like this bold claim that they make, though I have to disappoint them. Anything Debian-based is not for me (let the good times *roll* ...) but I'm sure it can be nice for people who prefer the Debian approach. Also, it's cool that they maintain a 32-bit release. Very nice!

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

It comes with ZSNES? That combined with E16 makes this a solid boomer distribution. I approve.

[@shamringo7438]

ZSNES? That thing hasn't been updated since 2007 and it's the most inaccurate emulator for the Super Nintendo Something like Snes9x would be much better choice

[@extradipboneless]

The first distro to give you the option to play old ass SMW rom hacks out of the box!

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

@@shamringo7438 Still, the ZSNES pleases the boomer. You know, back my day, it was ZSNES and Nesticle or nothing!

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

@@shamringo7438 If you want accuracy, though, I recommend emulators that are accepted for TAS. In most cases, that would be BizHawk, but you can check the list in the emulator resources in TASVideos. I haven't used that on Linux yet, I'm just using Mednafen for now because I'm lazy and mostly play on MAME anyway, but you can make it work. If you use Arch or a variant of Arch, it is in the AUR. If you don't, then you have to build it yourself.

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

@@shamringo7438 Oh, it's written in C#. But why though?

[@dadhaniaakhil9717]

My OCD wants him to remove workspace widget from desktop ;_;

[@rmcellig]

Excellent video Derek!! I never tried elive. One thing I don't understand is multiple desktops with their own workspaces. Is this something all distros can do or is this unique to the distro like plasma for example.

[@lorenzocabrini]

Enlightenment used to be the GNOME window manager. Rasterman was even a part of the GNOME team for a while. Also, the terminal that is most associated with Enlightenment is (or at least was) eterm.

[@taidee]

I think this distro is humorous enough to claim to "maybe the best", I like their guts. It's quite a throwback.

[@DanielTateNZ]

Your microphone is perfectly focused in this one :)

[@favor94]

:D

[@henrymach]

I like Cairo dock very much. I never use it on the bottom of the screen though. Two reasons: first is that the screen being wider than taller, vertical space is more valuable than horizontal space. Second is that Mac OS uses the dock on the bottom and I don't want anything that resembles Mac OS

[@scaru]

Pale Moon is fork of firefox with the old UI **but it provides latest security patches**, the way you said it will affect Pale Moon developers.

[@Felipe-xy6hc]

Me: No, please, I just installed Manjaro again, I don't want to distrohop again. My brain: haha Elive go brrrrrrr Edit: I just realized the 64 bit version asks for a donation, and I don't have money, catastrophe averted.

[@fahimazad1093]

Hi Mr. DT! I wanted to switch from bash to z-shell in my Manjaro Linux pc terminal but by mistake I wrote "/ usr / bin / git-shell" instead of "/ bin / zsh". After restart the terminal will not work at all. When I click to open the terminal, it starts up but quickly disappears. I have tried with other terminals but unfortunately it did not help to fix the problem. Please help me! With best regards

[@eeaaay]

At first glance, fascinating)) I would have thought if I chose between Manjaro and Elive. I need to check how good the support for 4k monitors is

[@blu3h4t]

Why choose between manjaro and elive when you can have both and run solus with budgie which is switching to enlightenment. :D

[@kennyk8151]

Wow it changed so much from the last time I used it.

[@jeis93]

Not a distraction from the excellent video, but it looks like your camera was a little off focus (focused on the mic as opposed to your face). Keep up the great work!

[@AnoopD2013]

What you use for storing snippets and sync them ?

[@janszenable]

It reminds me of "Crunchbang Linux" more than 10 years ago with Openbox and Conky, my first experience with Linux.

[@danw1955]

Currently using Linux-Mint (Cinnamon desktop), but this looks like something I can really relate to.. (I've been messing around with Linux since the RedHat 5.0 days)😁 Thanks for the in-depth review!😉

[@cyberp0et]

Mint is one of the best distros, but Elive seems to be better for older computers with less resourcesabd offers cool effects without requiring much on resources.

[@mistrotech8894]

I suppose a 32 bit version of a Linux distro is like a headphone jack on a phone. They're phasing it out, but it sure is amazing still.

[@maspoetry1]

can anyone gimme an idea of the difference between gtk and qt apps? do you create them with a different tool? which one? Any substantial performance difference? Would it be too difficult to create that kind of widgets?

[@gjermundification]

debian + enlightenment( e has tiling and regular, ) are there any better options? I do prefer moksha though. For my laptops I do run arch w/i3wm and moksha running on workspace 8. e16 must have way more themes than moksha and newer enlightenment versions, no?

[@bakrismael7870]

its look very interesting, I will try it and post my review

[@eddyecho]

Hey DT, could you do a video about Voatz and electronic voting software? It seems that Voatz is not free or open source software and this should concern everyone given that it might be used for voting in the future.

[@KevinBReynolds]

Light on resources, snappy, customisable. Looking good.

[@cyberp0et]

Indeed :)

[@danduby8416]

To avoid a donation, you can give them your email address, and in an hour, they will send you a download link.

[@cyberp0et]

I don't mind donating, is just that I don't use digital payment methods.

[@mecrumbly429___4]

Elite is actually made by only one developer. That is why he asks for donations

[@0stre]

I've just electrified an acoustic guitar and I want to couple it with the computer somehow, but I have no idea how to organize it. I would like to record and make a simple loop, I have been playing rowing for several years, but without electricity and without recording. If you have any experience, I will gladly accept any advice.

[@mke7605]

Buy a cheap Behringer audio interface and install ardour. You’ll have some learning curve unfortunately.

[@mightyred6803]

`echo $0` can show you what shell you're using btw

[@Claeys67]

Neat, didn't know this!

[@nswerhun]

Or just `echo $SHELL`

[@markscheck]

Great, great review. I used Elive in 2008 and wrote a review for it. @DistroTube your review brought back some memories. Very thorough and I learned a few things. Thanks

[@sasakanjuh7660]

Am I the only one who spent a stupid amount of time tweaking/configuring Cairo dock back in the days? :D

[@Claeys67]

Gotta have that little penguin walking around the dock!

[@danw1955]

Hah hah, same!!🤣

[@zopeck]

No, you are not. I used to like you.

[@paulo9523]

dt, take a look on KISS Linux!

[@ViniciusProvenzano]

I am curious to see DT playing with funtoo... needs time to compile all the stuff you need, but can be really tailored to taste and it runs really snappy. He gets so excited with some not mainstream stuff, I think he would like the challenge.

[@copper4eva]

Have you looked at Bedrock Linux yet? I hear it's actually very stable. I wanna try it, but if I do, I wanna use gentoo first.

[@njoroge2061]

Donation is the best way to keep project surviving/running at least you dont feel ripped like proprietary software where they collect user data. So linux user should not even complain, its hard coding, maintaining a distro.

[@Riccard074]

I am hoping do not bother you but I have a question for you. If you have to choose between MX Linux and Elive which one you will choose? I am an MX Linux user and I love it.

[@cyberp0et]

Mx is a good distro, but I had some issues with it. Elive seems to be better looking and also lower on resources. Also seems to tick all my boxes.

[@mpsii]

Did I miss how system updates are handled?

[@AnzanHoshinRoshi]

Thank you, Derek. Enlightenment was a gas. I would never use it these days however.

[@Kampouse]

i use it not the desktop version but the tilling pretty cool havent shown that you can do this with e ;c honestly try e24 not e16

Hey @DistroTube, that Pinebook is really struggling with cmatrix, it is pain to look at. You should use something more powerful for that.

[@notuxnobux]

Thats his thinkpad, not pinebook

[@mikkelrask8172]

@@notuxnobux yeah, the nipple is pretty recognizable :D

[@CristianMolina]

So, what's the difference with Bodhi linux? Moksha DE is a fork of Enlightenment & has 32/64 bits versions. Ubuntu based instead of Debian?

[@n.prince2734]

Not bad. Hope you review Austrumi OS

[@Tearnalte]

Also, Elive's iso seems to be SMALLER than many other distros, yet it has all this stuff.

[@miladini1]

shouldn't echo $SHELL give you the shell's name?

[@LosPompadores]

If I ever pine for the late 90s, I know where to go

[@melgibson6331]

naaa late 90s was windows 98...non transparent boxy and flat---kind of like now...2008 to around 15 OSs had the most detail put into them....plain is cheap and thats where we are now

[@nilz91]

never is, never was...

[@bond1844]

Relax Bro. 😅😅

[@Jorge-xf9gs]

Install Gentoo.

[@cyberp0et]

It is for some.

[@_MPP_]

#conkymasterrace. I still use it and love it. Nothing else packs so much critical system info to the corner of my screen. I have it on every virtual desktop :)

[@_MPP_]

@@douglasward718 d'oh

[@dyXurChannel]

Not having the Audio of the Distro was a mistake. If he had, he would've installed it everywhere!

[@pauldufresne3650]

So there is no Linux distro using Enlightenment, that try to mostly use applications done with Enlightenment Foundation Libraries?

[@seanwilliams2436]

Hello there is now a Elive OS retro 3.8.32 (64bit) that you can download and give a try please do a review of that version.

[@coolwaterdvr]

can you check out Garuda Linux?

[@mustyhead]

Enlightenment 16 was my first window manager love. (I

[@degujeckle]

@MustyHead: e16 is still in active development. for info & links check my post of 23 hours ago. peace - cheers.

[@mustyhead]

@@degujeckle, spiffy! I will check out said post.

[@RedBearAK]

Elive 32-bit was one of *many* oddball supposedly “light and fast” distros I tried to run on a circa 2001 laptop. It booted to a completely garbled desktop even in safe video mode. Never had that problem with any other distro. MX Linux worked really well on that machine but I finally ended up with Linux Mint with some performance tuning.

[@zopeck]

Yes, I had a similar situation sometime, booting up a machine, like you said with a garbled screen, could not even get to the command line. Too bad.

[@cyberp0et]

Mx requires less RAM, so is Mint Xfce, but they won't use less than 700 Mb or RAM at startup, which is a lot if you have total of 2 Gb. 300 Mb max would do for startup.

[@FunnyUsername314]

Why was there no problem in this video with having to use Super or Alt + the function keys to bring up the run prompt and different desktops, but Archcraft was reprimanded for using Alt+F4 for closing programs? Derek likes to use different workspaces and we all know he loves using dmenu to open stuff, so surely those shortcuts are just as important as closing windows. What happened to the function keys being on a second layer of the keyboard and being hard to press? I'm not super invested in how Derek runs these first impression vids, but I felt like I had to point this inconsistency out

[@Kampouse]

i would have made a video about E not the elive

[@simondewaal1980]

Asking for a donation is ok, blocking downloads if you don't donate not. That's violating the GPL because you can't spread it freely.

[@N0zer0]

Yeah, looks good but shady, they charge you for the 64 bit version and 32 bit version has limitations. I pass.

[@oscarrzga4615]

You can distribute it once you get it.

[@notuxnobux]

That's not violating the GPL. GPL only requires you to share the source if you also provide the binary. Elive source is also available on github where you can download it without restrictions. It would violate GPL if they didn't allow others to distribute their own copies of elive but they dont do that.

[@Flash136]

For a second there, I thought we finally had good bootloader for Emacs OS.

[@latinritemass]

I've commented on your channel before but you should really check out DeLinuxCo as a workstation desktop environment really nice.

[@fredrikpeterson1987]

does it work with compiz effects ???

[@cyberp0et]

It does. Flawlessly :)

[@tronus98]

I went from FVWM to Window Maker to Enlightenment to Gnome (version 1 or whatever the heck ya called it). Good times, noodle salad. I bought a boxed Redhat distro bundle at Best Buy and it came with Gnome. I loved enlightenment on Slackware. Those were the days of getting my dial up modem working with ppp. Enlightenment was always perty looking and lightweight. Back on a 120 megahertz computer with 32 megs of ram, E16 cruised. I agree about openbox. The next window managers I dipped into were blackbox, fluxbox, and eventually openbox. All had a text based, mouse driven, menu that you cobbled together yourself via a text file. I wonder if those are still around. I shall go a'googlin. Hmm, I wonder if Gkrellm is still kicking? That would of made unix porn proud ;)

[@degujeckle]

@tronus98: grkellm should be available in most linux, mac, windows, & bsd systems/repositories; or, can be found here: gkrellm.srcbox.net/. themes for gkrellm can be found here: themes.effx.us/packages/gkrellm2/ peace - cheers.

[@kamalthanki1130]

Hi sir, thank you for sharing this information, love and respect from india, I m desktop application developer, which language and which OS is perfect for developing Linux based desktop application.

[@Jorge-xf9gs]

I'll answer you if you answer me back. What is the perfect food? What is the perfect car? What is the perfect movie? What is the perfect book? What is the perfect TV show? What is the perfect country? What is the perfect job? What is the perfect hobby? What is the perfect political philosophy?

[@kamalthanki1130]

@@Jorge-xf9gs no thx

[@Jorge-xf9gs]

You know what's the perfect answer? Depends. Which language? Any. Which OS for developing Linux software? Linux.

[@kamalthanki1130]

@@Jorge-xf9gs thank you.

[@sys935]

Electron.js,python,java

[@nevoyu]

Elive really is great it's sad that it's effectively a 1 man project though. Really more people should get to looking at the enlightenment desktop because it's basically as fully featured as gnome with the memory usage rivalling a plain openbox install and it happens to have an amazing compositor. It's fantastic. Enlightenment was originally an openbox fork so that why it feels so familiar btw DT it even supports tiling windows

[@MrGamelover23]

Unfortunately, I found some hacker post or something about how actually developing for the enlightenment desktop is an absolute nightmare, which maybe why nobody uses it. I'm not a developer though, so I can't weigh in on if their opinions are valid or if it's just a bunch of tech Bros being ignorant about something different.

[@jidun9478]

Yeah but, been there done that😁 I will definitely be staying with Manjaro based on Arch so far nothing beats it for me 😎

[@chigozie123]

9:30 echo $SHELL

[@Jorge-xf9gs]

Noice, didn't think of that. I need to learn more about UNIX.

[@inreallife216]

Is not Free iso link ?

[@semilin]

But DT, you said yourself that the best Linux is GNU/Linux! :P

[@ThePressurizer]

DT using a mouse-centered desktop of all things :)

[@renaldi6210]

hey DT, i think you should try IGOS NUSANTARA

[@Memory1sRam]

Hmmm, I would maybe install this for old 32-bit netbooks.

[@floppy7292]

Little like the Commodore OS Vision ?

[@nico1337]

Qalculate is actually a GTK+ App

[@Jorge-xf9gs]

Weird right? Do you know the reason?

[@Kampouse]

might not read that but you probably already know that but on e24 you have run prompt called run everything that loook much nicer than what you shown on the video .. and you probably miss that you can you use E as dynamic window tiliing manager and have easy way to setup keybinding just with "key binding" but i mean yes its probably not as good dwm or what ever you use but it only took few mins to setup !@! alright cya

[@Shvmadogg]

echo $SHELL will be easier to check what shell you're using :)

[@ShadowStructure]

I just grabbed this for my old laptop. Thanks for the review DT.

[@khantutan825]

E is probably the most responsive desktop environment.

[@atifchy_]

wtf how is this the best linux distro???

[@javierr5845]

Hi guys, anyone can recommended me a Linux distro for an old pc ? It has only 1gb of ram and dual core cpu, I have messing around because I don’t know what it’s the best 32 bits distro for that... I tried Manjaro 18.04 but once installed i can’t update any packages because of an error of compatibility I think, I hope someone can help me, thanks in advance. Sorry if my English isn’t perfect 😅

[@gp6763]

I have one of that kind, old laptop from windows xp. Lubuntu works fine, but if you're up for a more technical config, pure Debian can do some very good work. There are probably lot of others very good distro specialize in old config that I don't know, time for a distro hop ^^ .

[@minitos1]

Peppermint works wonders

[@SwiatLinuksa]

MX LINUX, Antix, Puppy Linux sparky - they work on 512 MB fine ;) or less ;)

[@kennyk8151]

You might want to try either MX Linux or AntiX. AntiX is lighter with IceWM but MX is probably easier for beginners. Oh yeah MX uses Xfce by default

[@zopeck]

@@minitos1 and it does not come with too much software preinstalled so it is very light after installation. May be you have to do systemd-analize and systemd-analize blame in order to find out which programs delay boot time and so on but as you said, Peppermint works great.

[@Ju13n1s2e9]

Have a realy old 32bit rig, AMD XP2000 cpu and one old Geforce 6800 (NV40) and 1GB ram. This rig have some issues running most 32bit Linux distros: - LMDE 4 use too much RAM - 720MB with no other programs running. - Alt Linux - Crashes once I try to opens any windows in desktop, can't get it to work. - Bunsenlabs - Runs realy good and is my goto OS on this rig, but have issues with screen resolution maxes out at 1024x768. - Elive - Seems to work well and also get the full screen resolution (free drivers only). I'm actually installing it as writing this.

[@_icey]

I have a really old laptop that can barely run windows 7, elive runs great on that system with the fancy animations and stuff.

[@himanshupandey2041]

Distrohopping is in our blood, we can never stay on one distro Don't matter how good it is, we'll never satisfied 😅✌️ I use arch, btw😂

[@himanshupandey2041]

@Peter Andrijeczko 😱😱

[@himanshupandey2041]

@Peter Andrijeczko then I say you should also try other things too

[@SebPlaysAnything]

I'll only be satisfied once I can use a multi-DPI environment out of the box 😭

[@pakistanigamer6525]

😀

[@himanshupandey2041]

@Peter Andrijeczko Okay Guruji, my bad. I don't have that much experience in linux and I'm still trying things out. I like distrohopping cuz we get to know about many other things and features which are in one distro and not in other so that I can add that feature in that distro which I like. That's it

[@SoundToxin]

I would've done `echo $SHELL` instead of trying out three shells at random, although that's a unique approach I probably wouldn't have thought of myself. That conky prompt reminded me a lot of CrunchBang, and I agree the menu is a bit openbox-like. It seems like you can change to the 64bit version from the 32bit version, but I'd still prefer they just add a $0 option to their dropdown. I think Ubuntu does that, or at least they did some years ago, where it'd default to asking you to donate but could be avoided.

[@kennyk8151]

echo $0 is shorter to show ur shell

[@SoundToxin]

@@kennyk8151 Interesting, thanks for the tip. The output is not exactly the same, but it contains the important info anyway.

[@jozsefk9]

Is Linux going to live as long as Linus T. is going to live?

[@blu3h4t]

You know what's crazy, the only other modern distro that felt as amazing as elive is solus. And what's even crazyer is that solus or bungie is switching to enlightenment now. :D

[@aron6814]

it is a matter of taste but you can agree that the project is interesting

[@jimmy999S]

Personally, after linux mint (laptop) and manjaro (desktop), i've never felt the need to distrohop for the past 2 years.

[@Kampouse]

you dont nead tbh i use E with arch

[@jimmy999S]

@@Kampouse By need I mean the linux noobs urge to try every distro under the sun. When I first started with linux I tried basically everything in VMs and then tried my favorites in bare metal, that's how I came to the conclusion to choose the above. Of course my opinion isn't the law and is bound to change at some point but right now those would be my recommendations.

[@Kampouse]

@@jimmy999S trying every distro is dumb when you understand how they work, just try one distro for the pkg manager and stuff apart from that all linux from there is custom, i see your point

[@BrenoSilveira94]

echo $SHELL tells you what shell you are using.

[@xthebumpx]

That tells you what the default shell is set to, but not necessarily what shell you're using. nil.wallyjones.com/what-shell-am-i-using/

[@BrenoSilveira94]

@@xthebumpx that is actually right, tnx you for that.

[@BrenoSilveira94]

@@kadixfox that is in fact correct, tnx dude.

[@cyberp0et]

I have to say Elive is AWESOME! It is indeed lLIGHTweight and the Compiz 3D efects don't est resources at all. I really like it. One thing is not clear, it seems that Firefox browser does not seem to require much RAM, as expected, however this time it seems that the CPU gets the load. And on other distributions and Windows, Firefox browser eats up the RAM, but the CPU is on low. This is what confuses me. Besides Enlightment, the one other distro that works great and it looks great (Lxde +Compiz +effects) is Knoppix, but it is mainly intened as a live system. Antix is also really lithtweight (Under 300 Mb of RAM as well), but it is too simplistic and has some limitations (or also that I am not that experienced in Linux to fix them) Lubuntu is also low on resources, but it is slow on startup.

[@auroradraco9974]

Not having the aur instantly removes it from contention as the best desktop. But I dont think its bad by any means

[@Jorge-xf9gs]

The AUR is great, but overlays are even as good or better.

[@richardramirez1025]

Running echo $0 from the command line will return the shell that's running.