Is Finland prepared for war?

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Luke Bland

Luke Bland

Күн бұрын

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@allisvain123
@allisvain123 Жыл бұрын
We gotta be always ready when living next to a crazy country.
@anssi2267
@anssi2267 Жыл бұрын
@@lonewolfnormanfinndian6129 Sure you are... The bombing of civilians is Donbas has been investigated and found false. The amount of victims reported in Russian propagandist media includes soldiers and civilians from both sides from 2014 to Feb 2022. This number of reported victims also includes the 298 victims of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 shot down by Russia. Go back to your hole.
@dariusz1594
@dariusz1594 Жыл бұрын
Russia is aggressive, not crazy. Finland is the crazy one. Minna maaria antikainen 😂😂😂😂😂
@zxcq
@zxcq Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude. I watched European figure skating lately and there was a 50 year old dude in dress from Finland who fell on ice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJLPqpVnipd5o7s
@c00lkid16
@c00lkid16 Жыл бұрын
@@dariusz1594 turpa kiinni ryssä
@maestrobash7822
@maestrobash7822 Жыл бұрын
@@zxcq Why are you watching figure skating dude? Are you gay? 😂
@paanikki
@paanikki Жыл бұрын
As a small, non-aligned country with no nuclear weapons, Finland thought they had very little power to prevent a nuclear armageddon from happening, if the large superpowers started one. So, Finland decided to try to shelter the population from the possible effects instead. Building of civil shelters in large scale began in 1950's. This is a very different approach than what most countries had. An interesting fact about war and sheltering: during the winter war, in 1939, the Finnish government had several of their meetings in the vault of the National bank. (Suomen Pankki)
@LukeBland
@LukeBland Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. Where could I read more about this?
@Prafik614
@Prafik614 Жыл бұрын
Take a drive on a highway to any direction from Helsinki. You will see that all highways go through middle of hills, not over. So there is high rock walls left and right to the highway between every few kilometers. In case it’s needed, those rock walls can be blown and the road is blocked fast.
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 Жыл бұрын
Yes, we are prepared.. ever since WWII..
@Zardagbum
@Zardagbum Жыл бұрын
Someone might've mentioned this but the wooden structures dividing storage spaces for tenants in the shelter are meant to be used as material for beds and whatnot if the shelter has to be used for longer than expected. Also, another thing someone might've mentioned, it's not a "bomb shelter" it's a "population shelter" (literal translation from 'väestönsuoja'. They're not just for bombs, they're also for larger chemical incidents etc.
@LukeBland
@LukeBland Жыл бұрын
Really interesting about the beds! I did not know that.
@TimoTalksTech
@TimoTalksTech Жыл бұрын
@@LukeBland also some of the materiel on the storage is used to build x amount of lavatory rooms in case of emergency. The utility box has first aid gear, some gear for building stuff and breaking out of the shelter in case budings don't hold. Helmets gas masks rubber boots hazmat suits etc. There are dosemeters for radiation detection iodine pills and all kinda medical gear. The ventilation systems are pressure tested every 5 years or so and they should hold x amount of negative pressure in order to be as safe as possible in chemical etc attacks when the shelter needs to be airproof. All housing complexes have "government " who are responsible or have a named security officer in charge of making sure that the gear is in working order. If you are more interested then you could ask someone to show that. Prepping is real and now Finland was just appointed reserve prepping nation in EU as our strategies are like you said 100 years old. Atm there is no threat but then again threat always comes from the east...
@jimikorkala5474
@jimikorkala5474 Жыл бұрын
It's civil defence shelter
@mikkorenvall428
@mikkorenvall428 Жыл бұрын
Maybe even so. And some shelters have also a reservation for stowe, so that wood may even use as a firewood. It's more like a emergency room or shard/fracmental shelter than actual bomb shelter.
@juri_xiii9977
@juri_xiii9977 Жыл бұрын
@@LukeBland Why would you.(?)
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 Жыл бұрын
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.. I guess we got tired of Sweden and Russia fighting over us, like we didn't matter.. now being prepared is in our DNA..
@antonryelund7344
@antonryelund7344 Жыл бұрын
Sveriges sak är vår sak🇫🇮🤝🇸🇪
@koljolat
@koljolat Жыл бұрын
That big blast door with rails was really made for some serious S.H.T.F situation. That round shape would help it to stand hell of an impact,indeed engineering marvel of it's own kind.
@KaiMarcad
@KaiMarcad Жыл бұрын
That S.H.T.F situation would be a nuke to Helsinki. That shelter is designed to take that hit.
@seidr9147
@seidr9147 Жыл бұрын
Russia to us Finns is like when you have that one abusive and narcissistic ex. Then imagine that you would be forced to live right next door to that asshole for the rest of your life. The rational solution then is to always hope for the best and fear for the worst.
@sigmatau6108
@sigmatau6108 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you shouldn't be insulting us assholes then, for no reason.
@SK-nw4ig
@SK-nw4ig Жыл бұрын
Yes. Been preparing for 78 years.
@scanpolar
@scanpolar Жыл бұрын
I agree with you , Finland is ready ! I am an old reservits living winter time in Spain and summer in Finland near the Russian boarder in Ilomantsi , lake Koitere. Last time the Russian troops were panicking in Karelian forests in summer 1944. Very few returned home healthy from this wilderness hell.
@XlikeZero
@XlikeZero Жыл бұрын
Finland lost 10% of its territory. Try to learn something about history not just from Hollywood movies
@Cygnus888
@Cygnus888 Жыл бұрын
@@XlikeZero And Soviets lost 125000 soldiers vs 25000 finnish ones.
@XlikeZero
@XlikeZero Жыл бұрын
@@Cygnus888 you forget about victims only when it was more dead russians? Lol
@likklej8
@likklej8 Жыл бұрын
I met and had a drink with some Finns in Prague a few years ago man they sure can drink.
@FinSemi
@FinSemi Жыл бұрын
Also Tapiola Ainoa parking space can be used as shelter if needed. There is so much underground space at capital area that can be used for sheltering.
@mikkorenvall428
@mikkorenvall428 Жыл бұрын
And thank God not just Capital area. Basicly any major City has those... and all garrison municipalities have rumours and stories having this and that under ground... which all can't be just rumours... 🤣🙃
@marittamustonen-smith7333
@marittamustonen-smith7333 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating and so proud of my country’s level headiness. Living in peace with everyone but ready for anything and protecting our people. 💕to all in Finland from London
@SK-nw4ig
@SK-nw4ig Жыл бұрын
"If you want peace, prepare for war".
@AmbientEpicuros
@AmbientEpicuros Жыл бұрын
We have another one of those bigger shelters just under Hakaniemen tori - used to go to gym there. Also some salibandy and childerens play field inside :]
@drifthomies8
@drifthomies8 Жыл бұрын
Yes we have those ''väestönsuojas'' almost in every big building and some more too. When i was i kid we had a play room in our väestönsuoja and now it's gym :D Allways prepared.
@hannuvalasmo5439
@hannuvalasmo5439 Жыл бұрын
In Finland air raid sirens (or population alarm sirens which they are called nowadays) are located all over in vastly populated areas. They are tested every first monday of the month at noon. A special test alarm is sounded for 7 seconds to ensure that the sirens are working. How is it in other countries?
@as-guardianangel9360
@as-guardianangel9360 Жыл бұрын
I am from Texas USA, we have monthly tornado siren tests
@ImForwardlook
@ImForwardlook Жыл бұрын
@@as-guardianangel9360 I'm a Finn, I have an ex-Portland, Oregon 331 Hemi-powered air raid siren from the Cold War era.
@Ary-bw4he
@Ary-bw4he Жыл бұрын
Olen ulkomaalainen (Irakin Kurdistanin alueelta, uusi Suomessa). Tällä hetkellä opiskelen suomen kieltä ja väitän tohtoriksi Oulussa. Toivottavasti kaikki on hyvin. Rakastan Suomea, sen ihmisiä ja luontoa. Onnea Suomi! Ei sodalle....
@emilretee6932
@emilretee6932 Жыл бұрын
Mihin ajattelit lähtee jos ryssä hyökkää?
@Ary-bw4he
@Ary-bw4he Жыл бұрын
@@emilretee6932 En ole koskaan ajatellut sitä, kaikki tulee olemaan hyvin. :)
@harrilahti-luopa5953
@harrilahti-luopa5953 Жыл бұрын
Niin minäkin.
@juliushakala5148
@juliushakala5148 Жыл бұрын
@@Ary-bw4he Ei kannata olla liian naiivi, sillä itsellä ainakaan ei ole mahdollisuutta lähteä maastani jos sota alkaa.
@Ary-bw4he
@Ary-bw4he Жыл бұрын
@@juliushakala5148 En usko, että sota alkaa, ja jos alkaa, kuolen täällä.
@Iippo82
@Iippo82 Жыл бұрын
There is no command from authorities/goverment atm to empty those shelters, but there is law what says that if goverment gives order to take shelters in use, they has to be emptied and make ready to use inside 72 hours timeframe.
@LukeBland
@LukeBland Жыл бұрын
Yeah so the resident storage spaces in our building are allowed to stay but the extra rented storages had to be emptied.
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 Жыл бұрын
Muistatko sinä koulun pommisuoja harjoitukset? Oli palohälytin ja pommisuoja hälytin erikseen.. ja edelleen joka kuukauden ensimmäinen maanantai klo 12.00 tulee hälytys järjestelmän testaus..
@roykale9141
@roykale9141 Жыл бұрын
@@einienj3281 mulla ei ollut :0
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 Жыл бұрын
@@roykale9141 mitä ikäluokkaa olet? Ite oon syntynyt 81.. oli harjoitukset aina 12v asti.. (voihan meillä myös olla alueellisia eroja..? Venäläiset tykkää meidän saaristosta..)
@roykale9141
@roykale9141 Жыл бұрын
@@einienj3281 ite oon 2000 Saaristo kyllä houkuttais muokin että ihan ymmärrettävää :D
@mikoske
@mikoske Жыл бұрын
Cool video! On the top of my head can say a few places that are bomb shelters, Itis swimming pool, Myllypuro Formula center (karting), Maunula sports center. I was surprised to learn that in my apartment building I have to go to the next building 50 meters away to find shelter. Basement storage in my building doesn't have enhanced safety.
@samhartford8677
@samhartford8677 Жыл бұрын
We've had to move our storage in the bomb shelter that was renovated a couple times in the past 5 years to perform all the inspections and renovations... It's not a dead letter. It's an active thing.
@samhartford8677
@samhartford8677 Жыл бұрын
@@tomstarwalker Yeps, there are building codes on when they need to be built and then there are building codes on how they need to builts. These regulations have a reason, just like many others.
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 Жыл бұрын
@@samhartford8677 And they are maintained regularly, if they aren't, you get a hefty fine for neglecting the safety.. well the building owner does.. a bit like elevators, everything has to be checked regularly.. I live in my own house, but I know where my designated bomb shelter is, about 1km away.. (I have smaller ones along the way though, private/out of use, not maintained, but useful).. My shelter is used as a market square, a wine/cheese cellar, art exhibitions, concerts, a cafe, pop ups AND orienteering, (it's a huge maze).. and if you are not a local, you would have a hard time finding the doorway.. it's not as obvious as people think it should/might be..
@Vol77733
@Vol77733 Жыл бұрын
Yes, we practice archery in our bomb shelters, so better be ready for that if you want to mess with us.
@lordoverflow
@lordoverflow Жыл бұрын
Nice video especially the neighborhood shelter part.
@LukeBland
@LukeBland Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 These bomb shelters are super interesting!
@lordoverflow
@lordoverflow Жыл бұрын
@@LukeBland we have shelter for own whole block in our backyard. It's for like 8 apartment buildings so over 100 households. Part of it works as big storage like the one on your building. Then there's our neighborhood shelter less than 1km away from here.
@gas250
@gas250 Жыл бұрын
Everything in finland is planned that way..roads planned that you can ambush them,bridges must be strong but easy to blow upp during crisis.everything is planned ahead here🤘
@ninja1970fin
@ninja1970fin Жыл бұрын
we are always prepared for war !
@tommiberg4455
@tommiberg4455 Жыл бұрын
Yes, we are prepared.
@Mephitinae
@Mephitinae Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 80s thinking these shelters existed mainly in case something like Chernobyl happens. War never seemed like a realistic possibility to me. I kept thinking "Why do armies even exist anymore? The last war was when my grandpa was young." I knew very little about recent history back then.
@peesukarhu_OFFICIAL
@peesukarhu_OFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
I wish people had some more canned food saved in their cabinets as a precaution
@eerokutale277
@eerokutale277 Жыл бұрын
In the last two wars against #Finland criminal #SovietUnion suffered 1.3 million total casualties of which 0.5 million were KIA/MIA, more than US casualties in the WWII, 9 x US casualties in the Vietnam War.
@peterarmoton2685
@peterarmoton2685 Жыл бұрын
first thing about peace, pre... to war, Ekana rauhassa, valmistaudu sotaan. Sunzi.
@Crowmoor78
@Crowmoor78 Жыл бұрын
We have been prepared for 78 years.
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi Жыл бұрын
yes, finland has been prepared for war since early 50's or right after ww2. thought rebuilding finland was the first task in 50's
@JPPVESA
@JPPVESA Жыл бұрын
The reconstruction era was something very massive, extraordinary and completely different from every other nation involved in WW2. We paid in full an equivalent of 4,36 billion dollars in war reparations by 1952, rehoused over 400 000 war refugees, created several new lines of production, changed our country from an agraricultural to heavy industry and later to information technology. All while building a modern welfare country system alongside the other Nordic countries unlike anything in written history.... ..when considering all this, it would be foolish if we wouldn't build safeguards to keep our society secured in the coming wars with our enemy nations, be them in what ever form or shape.
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi Жыл бұрын
@@JPPVESA yes
@ketjuariittaa
@ketjuariittaa Жыл бұрын
Finnish saying: Ei yllätetä pöksyt kintuissa.
@lintu25
@lintu25 Жыл бұрын
When air raid comes don't use elevators.
@274727
@274727 Жыл бұрын
CNN made a news story about Helsinki's bunkers. You can find it on youtube. 😎
@HebrewHammerArmsCo
@HebrewHammerArmsCo Жыл бұрын
If it's ice skating is anything to go off, They are screwed....
@thamor4746
@thamor4746 Жыл бұрын
I will just answer to your topic as a person from Finland. No we are not, but we weren't prepared for Winter War either, nobody is ready in western countries to face what Ukraine is facing. But will we just roll over and let them come to us, NO. We are prepared for Russian attack maybe better than any other nation bordering Russia and our terrain helps us a lot with low amount of actual roads from our border to our country with every road having a bridge which is prepared to be destroyed instantly we feel Russia would invade us. So in the end answer is NO and YES =)
@LukeBland
@LukeBland Жыл бұрын
Interesting points! I never thought about it that way.
@etikkakurkku
@etikkakurkku Жыл бұрын
r/UtahJazz :))
@thamor4746
@thamor4746 Жыл бұрын
@@etikkakurkku Same guy, clearly Lauri fan :D
@XlikeZero
@XlikeZero Жыл бұрын
Every nation has to have their own legend when they were heroes...
@aztecazul
@aztecazul Жыл бұрын
Interesting subject. I’m happy to see them prepared for the worst. As someone who has a hard set goal to get over there, it’s great to see that there is planning for this and that you can actually have a plan on what to do in such an occasion, Ukko forbid it ever happens.
@taahaseois.8898
@taahaseois.8898 Жыл бұрын
Prepared since 45
@normanhart
@normanhart Жыл бұрын
Hey Luke! Awesome video I love the hat. Question: Are the activities that take place in those bunkers such as the gymnastics and archery available for free or is it a business of sorts using the space?
@LukeBland
@LukeBland Жыл бұрын
Thanks! They are run by the city so not free but usually pretty cheap.
@normanhart
@normanhart Жыл бұрын
@@LukeBland I’d love to set up a food truck in Helsinki. Like gourmet grilled cheese sandwiches and homemade soups. I tossed bags at an airport too. Manchester NH in 1999. Never got up so early or worked so hard for 8.50 an hour.
@Deadolman1
@Deadolman1 Жыл бұрын
@@normanhart Cool idea. If I may suggest, try that food truck in the summertime when Finland is really alive - there are all kinds of festivals everywhere and people moving around. Outside of the shopping malls and bigger grocery stores are places to find potential customers in the winter time.
@sl06bhytmar
@sl06bhytmar Жыл бұрын
No, there has not been any order to prepare any bomb shelters, some places have prepared them for practice thanks to invasion of Ukraine by Orcs but law just mandates after a call is made those shelters need to be operational in 72 hours (3 days). Readiness shelters need to be in operational in 24 hours which are super rare outside of Helsinki.
@jaeger233
@jaeger233 Жыл бұрын
from karelia brigade, we are ready
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
"Been preparing for war a hundred years" Try living next to Novgorod for 200 years, next to Moscow Russia for 400 years, under the Moscow Czar for 100 and next to the USSR (in reality or also in name) for another 100. And that's not counting our tribes and petty kingdoms before the crusades while Novgorod had influence. Well over a millennium of contact with Russians has taught us well what they're about.
@dariusz1594
@dariusz1594 Жыл бұрын
You left the part when the Czar gave you autonomy and the statue of that particular Czar still standing in Helsinki. And you forgot to mention you were under swedish occupation for almost 700 fckng years.
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
@@dariusz1594 We were in real union with the Russian Empire through the Czar as our grand duke. Alexander I recognized our statehood under his rule and vowed to uphold the laws, a vow repeated by his descendants. Nikolai II didn't hold to his vow and his autocracy was protested. His removal vacated the position of our head of state and the powers that be acted accordingly with parliament taking power in the sovereign's stead and the provisional government was originally supposed to install a new one. He refused the throne when Germany lost against the Entente. During the Swedish empire, Finland was considered an "over there" foreign land, as they didn't succeed in assimilating us, even if they'd ever tried.
@steinarhaugen7617
@steinarhaugen7617 Жыл бұрын
We are all prepared.
@harrilahti-luopa5953
@harrilahti-luopa5953 Жыл бұрын
I do not want lose My home.
@trmp9923
@trmp9923 Жыл бұрын
There's a pretty eerie atmosphere though.. Nobody really knows what's next
@TheNismo777
@TheNismo777 Жыл бұрын
We sure been preparing nonstop.. buying important stuff, building stuff that aint public info unless situation escalate.. we are armed to the teeth military wise.. Someone would say we are crazy.. until they hear how aggressive neighbour been.. lets say last 1000 years.. and happends to have worlds biggest pile of nuclear weapons stored near our border.. they wont use em, but if something went wrong.. uhh.. I dont know how many mega tons there is but its alot.. :D
@sigmatau6108
@sigmatau6108 Жыл бұрын
You are crazy. Your neighbour had productive relationship and zero problems with Finland, until your leadership sold out to the globalists and dragged you into NATO, making Finland a target for all those weapons you spoke of. And for what? Will NATO make you more secure, or less?
@sigmatau6108
@sigmatau6108 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNismo777 Wrong on both counts. But Finland always makes wrong choices in this things, remember Hitler? NATO is simply the military wing of the fading Western neo-colonial Empire. History won't be kind to it. Neutrality for Finland was your best bet. But now there is some nuke in Siberia aimed at your city. Enjoy.
@somebody2468
@somebody2468 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNismo777 Do you really think Russian commanders would care if some clouds of radiation would come back to Russia? They ordered soldiers dig trenches at chernobyl red forest. They dont care. Also if they are shootin nukes at finland, radiation cloud is least of their problem because other nations might retaliate with nukes just for spite of it.
@TheNismo777
@TheNismo777 Жыл бұрын
@@somebody2468 well they happend to care since ppl got poisoned and area got evacuated.. so keep on rambling nonsense
@somebody2468
@somebody2468 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNismo777 Everyone knew red forest's ground is no go zone.
@dudefromtheneighbourhood
@dudefromtheneighbourhood Жыл бұрын
We must be since we are going to NATO
@gera3170
@gera3170 Жыл бұрын
PARABELLUM !!!!!!!!
@SiB77
@SiB77 Жыл бұрын
Suprised how big public shelters (better word than bomb shelter) are. All your videos have black level way up, is that your style or did you forgot to turn HDR off?
@harrilahti-luopa5953
@harrilahti-luopa5953 Жыл бұрын
I hope that war not come here in My country.
@Vanessa-hr3yr
@Vanessa-hr3yr Жыл бұрын
With the use of modern nuclear weapons, which nation will be prepared?
@1906james
@1906james Жыл бұрын
interesting
@D1Im
@D1Im Жыл бұрын
No, not really.I haven't packed my bags yet.
@jamesmurray8558
@jamesmurray8558 Жыл бұрын
They had the Soviets on the ropes in the Winter War.
@newfoundlander4937
@newfoundlander4937 Жыл бұрын
I believe that this precaution in Finland is understandable because of our border neighbor. The sports centers in many cities are inside the rock, but few people know their true purpose😉
@Paranormal1986
@Paranormal1986 Жыл бұрын
Nice video explaining this stuff as an American, not Bland at all ;). Subbed keep em coming
@LukeBland
@LukeBland Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
@juhal1594
@juhal1594 Жыл бұрын
I daresay Finland is better prepped than most other European countries. Bc we have to be. Sharing a border with a notoriously impulsive and historically expansive neighbour tends to do that to a country. Never again, Sweden, never again. 🤪
@TheAlex29494
@TheAlex29494 Жыл бұрын
I just now realized that I don't even know where the nearest shelter is. I don't live in a flat
@kultaseppa
@kultaseppa Жыл бұрын
We have been preparing for 80 years
@AIvision19
@AIvision19 Жыл бұрын
Do not worry man. I live in Ukraine without nice shelters and it`s ok
@YoutubeJani
@YoutubeJani Жыл бұрын
Yes hello i finland
@Pesu1991
@Pesu1991 Жыл бұрын
Seuraava suomi torstai milloin :) ?
@LukeBland
@LukeBland Жыл бұрын
🤔
@juhahuovio3548
@juhahuovio3548 Жыл бұрын
Guns. War in Ukraina testinä russian destroyers what finnland now buy
@kariturunen3163
@kariturunen3163 Жыл бұрын
Antaa tulla vaan ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3LaY3d4rNl0grM
@Alberto-tv8rg
@Alberto-tv8rg Жыл бұрын
War for what? There is no threat for Finland. But yes, it is prepared 👍💪🏻
@Maysti87
@Maysti87 Жыл бұрын
Russia is threat
@Alberto-tv8rg
@Alberto-tv8rg Жыл бұрын
@@Maysti87 at the moment there is no realistic threat
@woodytobiasjr8265
@woodytobiasjr8265 Жыл бұрын
No.
@wookieeMan06
@wookieeMan06 Жыл бұрын
Not all apartsments in finland have bomb shelters
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
It's based on the size of the building.
@Vihreasammakko
@Vihreasammakko Жыл бұрын
That is true, but all people must have an access to the bombselter by law. All homes are not the same. So there Will be a place for you close by, that is the law.
@Vihreasammakko
@Vihreasammakko Жыл бұрын
@@Tounushi this is not true. Even if you Live by yourself, you Will have access to a bombselter near by. Suerly on a countryside there is no need for things like these, becouse no one Will ever attack with bombs agains reindeers
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
@@Vihreasammakko I took OP meaning shelters within buildings. Of course there are shelters dug into the rock within a mile's range of most living areas and work areas. I can name three and be convinced of there being at least a fourth within a 2km range of where I live.
@Vihreasammakko
@Vihreasammakko Жыл бұрын
@@Tounushi City must make sure, there is a space for all people Live close by. There are different kinds of homes, but still all people living in that area Will have space in close by bombselters. So if you have lots of homes with no shelter, then there Will be a Big one for all close by. By the law
@DaBoomz13
@DaBoomz13 Жыл бұрын
Those shelters in a block of flats aren't actually 100% bomb shelters. They will collapse if hit by a bomb or other explosive. They are designed to withstand the building itself collapsing on top of them.
@sampohonkala4195
@sampohonkala4195 Жыл бұрын
Not true. The common underground shelters in the basements are S1 class bomb shelters that can take a 100 kN/m2 explosion load. They are designed against explosives. Not as heavy protection as in the large shelters carved in rock, but still quite good.
@DaBoomz13
@DaBoomz13 Жыл бұрын
@@sampohonkala4195 My information might be outdated or my last apartments caretaker was talking about that specific building.
@sampohonkala4195
@sampohonkala4195 Жыл бұрын
@@DaBoomz13 It is true that some buildings may only have the old K class shelters, which are more to your description. Those are not being built any more and have never been common.
@Tulah
@Tulah Жыл бұрын
Technically those aren't bomb or air-raid shelters. They used to be called bomb shelter way back in past, but the name was changed at some point during the cold war. One reason for this was that they rarely if ever were equipped to be actual bomb shelters. Protection simply isn't enough, equipment isn't suitable and so forth. I don't think there's good translation for English currently, but it's something like civil protection shelter. Main purpose is to provide shelter in case of an accident related to hazardous materials, radioactive rain/smoke/fog/ash or gasses or some such. They can be used as bomb or air-raid shelter in worst case scenario, but again aren't really equipped for such. Mind you they aren't any less important either way. There's plenty of dangerous substances being delivered on highways every day. It takes only one lorry full of chlorine to tumble over for everyone nearby to have serious lung problems very, very soon in which case civil protection shelter is very, very important for everyone in predicted area of impact.
@LukeBland
@LukeBland Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I though it had changed but wasn’t sure.
@huuskari174
@huuskari174 Жыл бұрын
Actually they're designed to withstand the building collapsing above them. They also need to withstand 100kN per squaremeter shock wave from explosion. They're made from really thick reinforced concrete.
@Pyhantaakka
@Pyhantaakka Жыл бұрын
Please don't spread rubbish. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5C8h4Zugc9kr6M You don't need 300mm concrete in ceiling and walls (which is the minimum) just to keep out some hazardous materials.
@Tulah
@Tulah Жыл бұрын
@@huuskari174 Good point. As per current (2011) legalese requirement, sure (no idea how much this changed between 90's and 2010, but 80's and earlier the shelters made couldn't take all that much hit at all). S1 classification would be 100kN and 300mm of reinfoced concrete on roof and surrounding walls which isn't all that much if we think about anything actually hitting the shelter. It's great for something hitting somewhere nearby though. How many apartment buildings or shopping centres do actually fit the current bill?
@Pyhantaakka
@Pyhantaakka Жыл бұрын
@@Tulah According to investigation from 2004: Shelters before 1954-58 are not fit for civil defense, shelters built between 1958-1971 are in satisfactory state and shelters after 1971 are in good shape. Current laws are based on laws from 1958. Oldest shelters lack proper ventilation equipment but work against shrapnel.
@fauziahmohddinmohddin7988
@fauziahmohddinmohddin7988 Жыл бұрын
What for? Stay for neutrality .. after years building happily .. you want to be like Ukraine living as refugees . I hope your dream comes true to reality .
@nonnnaq_
@nonnnaq_ Жыл бұрын
All the newer apartment building hasent the bomb shelters.
@huuskari174
@huuskari174 Жыл бұрын
It might be shared by multiple buildings. Either it's in nearby building or it's nearby public bomb shelter
@wookieeMan06
@wookieeMan06 Жыл бұрын
@@huuskari174 im new apartment building, and there is not bomb shelter and first two apartments I lived in in finland never had a one either and they were build in the 50s and 40s
@pivkemrzli2297
@pivkemrzli2297 Жыл бұрын
a question comes to mind: "how to win a war by hiding in the bomb shelters?"
@CeciliaS1
@CeciliaS1 Жыл бұрын
The shelters are for civils, who have no equipments or trainee at war situations, such as children and elders. They are not ment to use 24/7, but to use when we get example a air bomb warnings.
@vtimari
@vtimari Жыл бұрын
Soldiers on the front line have higher morale fighting knowing their family is decently protected even in case of missile / drone / chemical strikes on civilian targets. Such attacks on civilian targets have recently been seen a lot in Ukraine, as part of Russian war strategy. Maybe you don't win the war with bomb shelters, but they do help you not to lose what you are fighting the war for.
@KirosanaPerkele
@KirosanaPerkele Жыл бұрын
"How to miss the point?"
@sporasparel5032
@sporasparel5032 Жыл бұрын
What an idiotic comment. Do you expect us to send our grandmas to kill r*ssians? They would do it gladly but deserve safety
@jupe8025
@jupe8025 Жыл бұрын
Question comes to mind, do there where you live women and children go to war too? Jesus...
@lescobrandon2202
@lescobrandon2202 Жыл бұрын
They should be. Unfortunately Finland's government actions is showing more of an escalation and provocation towards armed conflict than doing the opposite.
@RelaxAntti
@RelaxAntti Жыл бұрын
How so?
@PM-gf1nj
@PM-gf1nj Жыл бұрын
How is that?
@JTD33
@JTD33 Жыл бұрын
lol
@subrosa7708
@subrosa7708 Жыл бұрын
I am a Finn and you are absolutely right! Finland’ s elite has made Russia our constant enemy purposely, which is sheer madness. Russia has never threatened Finland in anybway. Quite opposite Russia has treated us friendly. Until of course now!😬
@RelaxAntti
@RelaxAntti Жыл бұрын
@@subrosa7708 You're out of your mind, lol. Maybe you should look into this subject at least a bit as it's obvious you haven't looked into it at all. It's basically the complete opposite of what you just said.
@edonveil9887
@edonveil9887 Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: it was all CGI.
@TuomasLevoniemi
@TuomasLevoniemi Жыл бұрын
What was CGI? Everyone can see with their own eyes that there are a lot of shelters. Every slightly larger apartment building has its own shelter. In addition to this, there are public shelters. In addition, numerous documentaries and news have been made about these shelters. Like this.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apSbl5immM2Frbs
@MZakharova-pl6yu
@MZakharova-pl6yu Жыл бұрын
finland liek other nato countries will fight the russian if the others also go and fight, they like hyenas, they wont attack a bear on their own.
@KirosanaPerkele
@KirosanaPerkele Жыл бұрын
We won't attack at all.
@sporasparel5032
@sporasparel5032 Жыл бұрын
We don't want to attack you. There is nothing to gain from attacking such a poor country
@jordis9446
@jordis9446 Жыл бұрын
When Finland granted the first arms/support package to Ukraine.. Then Finland became part of the war .. that is, we are at war with Russia .. Finland has agreements from 1947 and Finland has now broken them..
@HarriFinland
@HarriFinland Жыл бұрын
No. Russia broke International law by attacking Ukraine and void all agreements. Russia started WWII and now is the payback time.
@sampohonkala4195
@sampohonkala4195 Жыл бұрын
That is total bullshit. If a war going country has a piece of Swedish artillery, it does not mean that Swedrn is at war.
@anssi2267
@anssi2267 Жыл бұрын
We are in an economical war with the sanctions. Knowing our history of course we help Ukraine. We know it is almost impossible to fight off genocidal evil without proper help.
@KundiKalliosta
@KundiKalliosta Жыл бұрын
Finland has not broken any agreements and besides that, those agreements from 1947 are no longer valid. It is Russia that is attacking like fasisctis in Ukraina and is making threats to finland. also russian trolls are trying to influence ordinary people. Russia is a terror state.
@somebody2468
@somebody2468 Жыл бұрын
If we were at war with russia, there would be mobilization. Finland got no mobilization, so no war.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Жыл бұрын
As a Finnish, nope. No way i would die for these fools :) In the last war Finland partnered with N-Germany. That's how smart our leaders are.
@Turmootti
@Turmootti Жыл бұрын
You need to escape to Russia.
@som3random72
@som3random72 Жыл бұрын
Lmao, being labeled a Russian troll for not wanting to die or participate in war. Get a grip guys
@llssneN
@llssneN Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you think you can escape the St. Petersburg troll factory at least in the youtube comment section, but then you realise they're everywhere.
@som3random72
@som3random72 Жыл бұрын
@@llssneN Being anti-Russia and being anti-war are not mutually exclusive.
@atnfn
@atnfn Жыл бұрын
That's one dumb comment. They had no choice, if Finland hadn't accepted help from Germany, we would be a Russian province right now. Although I actually think they were far smarter than our current leaders. Most countries are run by corrupt idiots nowadays.
@mohamadazamabdullah4191
@mohamadazamabdullah4191 Жыл бұрын
Finland wants a piece of Russia.
@KirosanaPerkele
@KirosanaPerkele Жыл бұрын
No we don't.
@sigmatau6108
@sigmatau6108 Жыл бұрын
Now there is some truth finally. I can even understand it. One look at the map and you can see why Europeans hate Russia so much. Anyone would have an inferiority complex.
@KundiKalliosta
@KundiKalliosta Жыл бұрын
that is a lie!
@jupe8025
@jupe8025 Жыл бұрын
Trollolollololll. Mohammad can go and get a piece of pig tale for snack. Almost the same idea...
@mohamadazamabdullah4191
@mohamadazamabdullah4191 Жыл бұрын
@@jupe8025 hello dwellers in the grave, it is a well known fact that the lovers of freedom and democracy have looted africa, asia and south america.
@hannuvoimanen4191
@hannuvoimanen4191 Жыл бұрын
Valehtelijat!
@Kit_Kirja_Rand
@Kit_Kirja_Rand Жыл бұрын
Kyllä
@braindisorder5043
@braindisorder5043 Жыл бұрын
We have been prepared since 1940s
@justasking8996
@justasking8996 Жыл бұрын
All former Soviet republics and Social komunist states have those. Decades now.
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