Is Fortnite Actually Bad with AMD? (Fixes!)

[@ZachsTechTurf]

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[@tinklenugget7863]

Zach you can use replay mode to have the exact same benchmark everytime for fortnite

[@maybacher]

Heyyyy! I still can't believe I guessed it was the Vista MB! I guessed that case when you did the sevenhero build on twitch too!

[@Liam-s1r4z]

If the game is choppy when starting the first game its because its building the shader cache in the storage

[@MrRant-hl6yd]

When I did this same test with a 7800x3d and 6800xt and 7800x3d and 3080ti I was getting around 200-400 fps more with the 3080ti also performance mode is significantly better than dx12 as long as you have your pc and game optised for it

[@Mrhandyhitman]

If you lower settings and resolution you are more CPU bound than GPU bound. This game needs a beefy CPU to run smoothly as well the lower the settings

[@NukaOrQuantum]

The amount of people repeating information on the internet that they heard is uncanny. I personally used an RX580 on Fortnite for about 6 months and had absolutely zero issues.

[@Sp00n_]

it all depends on what is good enough for people. some people want more smooth gaming, and others are fine with what they got.

[@TheMVPenguin]

I'm getting tons of frame drops with my 580, only at 60-70% usage, not a CPU (as far as I can tell) or bottlenecking issue either. can't figure it out

[@Darius-hn4gp]

Fortnite is badly optimized to be fair, I had the same issues with my Rx 480 ​@@TheMVPenguin

[@kingtuckgesus8879]

​@@TheMVPenguin u have a rx 580 that's the issue, The more they update it, the more obsolete those older cards will be get you a 6600 XT

[@StarsIWNL]

@@TheMVPenguinperformance mode

[@sak-atWork]

You come to learn that people, who have never owned an AMD gpu, and/or do not know the FIRST thing about optimizing their PC, are so quick to say silly things like "AMD Sux". It's a shame that ignorant people tend to be the most confident. Thanks for the video, as someone who has an NVIDIA GPU, I hope to see AMD do better in the future. We need competition in the market.

[@patriclcool1968]

good thing there is competition, AMD!

[@tguit-fiddler5692]

They got my money this time lol

[@sak-atWork]

@@patriclcool1968 Yes, there is just talk about them being hesitant to compete in the high-end market due to poor numbers. I hate to see it. I feel like I'm part of the problem. I just had to prioritize low-energy use over sheer power-per-dollar. My electricity bill is near $300 a month unfortunately.

[@200pumb]

I my self have a 4070ti super yet I convinced 2 of my friends that wanted low budget gpu to get a 7800xt ! I made the adjustments on andrenaline then told them to use only D12 and with some in game settings the game runs smooth as butter !! 🧈 amd cards are really good 👍 and best value for money 💰

[@loryt690]

I have both and nvidia is absolute with 0 dubt better in fortnite

[@theredpineapple9485]

If I recall correctly, Fortnite does have a replay mode where you can test the same environment with different settings or GPUs, I remember seeing Daniel Owen's video about the RTX 3070 vs 4070 and he was using it to compare them.

[@ZachsTechTurf]

I need to look into this. Thanks!

[@theredpineapple9485]

@@ZachsTechTurf 👍

[@Encrypted010]

​​@@ZachsTechTurfi would really appreciate an update into this! I'm currently a 3070 x Trio user thinking of upgrading to 7800XT, i would like to know if it'd be worth making the move.

[@OverseerPC-Hardware]

Unfortunately, most PC techtubers (apart from Steve HUB) don't actually play FN, and therefore don't understand how this game actually runs/behaves. Most just benchmark FN as if it's another TPS game and do their usual benchmarking simulations.

[@Rogbet1]

@@Encrypted010don’t be a traitor to your 3070

[@gamerstreater9314]

Anakin was NOT having it 😭 0:03

[@Holygroceries]

I'd do the same

[@jordanmntungwa3311]

Lmao

[@xgas.hurried9894]

you spelt his name wrong lmfaooooo

[@gamerstreater9314]

@@xgas.hurried9894 Anakin* 😃

[@ZachsTechTurf]

Great work from my editor there

[@Iker3329_]

The view distance on enemies is 250 meters no matter what setting u use, it only changes the LOD of the textures from far away and that only gives u more fps drops, the only advantage that it gives is that u see floor loot from far away, which if u put more than medium view distance it doesnt increase so medium distance should be the best setting edit: i think people doesnt know that performance mode is made for low end devices, and that directx its just worse because its not the latest version of directx, its like the problems on counter strike, newer gpus werent able to get more fps than a 1050 because of csgo being a dx9 game, but now on cs2 with directx11 its way better for high end devices (and worse for low end ones)

[@mcformarkich]

@ZachsTechTurf Okay, here's the deal. The whole "AMD gpus are bad at Fortnite" is STILL true, to an extent that the video did not mention/delve into. Your definition of "pro" settings uses directX12 on the reasoning that "it performs better imo". I haven't heard of ANY pro player using dx12 over performance mode (not even semi-pro players, me and everyone i know who plays included). Perf. mode isn't made for JUST potato pcs, its made for any pc to have more fps at a lower visual fidelity (lower grass LOD, textures etc..) but here comes the BIG and ONLY problem. Performance mode is based on DIRECTX11! ... thats the whole "problem" for AMD Gpus. They perform pretty bad on dx11 ESPECIALLY on Fortnite. Nvidia cards DO NOT have this problem, thus in performance mode EVERY NVIDIA GPU has more fps than on dx12, and every nvidia gpu OUTPERFORMS its AMD counterpart on performance mode (while AMD is on dx12 "pro" settings). That's why the point still stands of "AMD Gpus are bad at fortnite(WHILE RUNNING PERFORMANCE MODE)" because its a horrible stuttery mess... switch to dx12 and YES, you do get a much more playable experience.... but then again, you are definitely not getting a better one than the nvidia counterpart. That's why i really do not agree with the last statement of "amd gpus even get more fps than nvidia, so the whole "amd has problems" is just fake =D". If you compared nvidia on perf. mode and amd on dx12 the results would be MUCH different. (NVIDIA outperforms every time) That's the whole purpose of Performance mode, to have more fps than dx11 and 12. Performance mode is just a highly optimized dx11. The "real" solution would be for epic games to make performance mode based on dx12, then amd would have an equally as good experience (if not better) than the nvidia counterpart, but then some older pcs (that this mode was specifically made for) just wouldn't work, because dx12 isn't supported on those old gpus. At this point, they wouldn't bother, because casual players can use dx12 and pro players should use nvidia. I have delved into this topic a LOT, and know almost everything there is to know. I love amd as much as i love nvidia. When i was supposed to get a gpu i was picking between a rtx 3060 and a 6600xt... As i mainly played fortnite at the time, the extra 5% more power the AMD had would be useless for me on Fortnite (and I was right). To wrap it up, amd DOES have a problem running fortnite on performance mode (based on dx11), the SOLUTION is to run it on directx12... thats it. But do note, if you mainly play fortnite competitively, Nvidia is the better solution because you can run performance mode on it, and get more fps. (and more stable one)

[@teodormarin2143]

I read your whole comment and I agree with you. My friend and I have simmilar procesors but in fortnite he is playing on rtx 3060 165fps capped without problems(he is playing mire casually). I play with a 6600 xt mire competitive and I need to cap my FPS on 120fps because in extreme conditions(10-20 players on finals) my FPS would drop to 100-90 Even 75 sometimes. Both of us are playing on DX12

[@pork-f2p]

I can only agree. Really good comment and Nicely put together ❤❤

[@cocktail4154]

on point

[@Leme994]

If epic gave us the option to siable the grass, then I'd never use performance mode.

[@Wwrq3i]

I have nvidia 3050 and it performs better on dx12 than performance mode

[@flexiblefelix]

Zack, is it possible you could do more of these for other pvp games? I would love to see this for say, valorant, apex, tekken, LoL, OW2 just to name a few that I don't really have a personal gauge on for the best hardware choice, and I'd enjoy also seeing this for even CPU choices if you wanted to open it up to more than just team green and team red. I've been following you for a while now and I think you have some really great content that seems very down to earth with the more veteran side of PC building enthusiasts. It's great stuff and I think you deserve to hear this. Cheers ✌️

[@ZachsTechTurf]

Thanks for the suggestions and kind words!

[@Stands01]

9:38 - this happens because the game has to compile shaders for the GPU again as you have updated to a new GPU driver

[@leoutriainen]

Yes. Also, "simply restarting the game" is not it.

[@Digitizedtech]

Fortnite ain’t that bad with AMD; I occasionally play it at 1440p with the 6800. Just runs at a lower frame rate than expected

[@IPowder4105]

Maybe you are using ray tracing

[@Digitizedtech]

@@IPowder4105 I think so

[@redexexile795]

@@Digitizedtech i got same gpu at any setting and resolution 1% lows goes below 60 fps

[@mynickisalreadytaken]

@@redexexile795 Whats your CPU and RAM Speed+Latency. Also Temps?

[@Digitizedtech]

thanks for the advice@Wowdog52

[@knutkj]

Finally! This was so needed! I also finally learned what DX12 Pro settings mean. It was practically impossible to find good material on Fortnit graphics settings before this video was made. I would also appreciate it if you could do a follow-up video on non-pro settings since I want both: Look decent and good enough perf. What kind of card is needed? Which settings are important? Again, thanks a lot for pulling this video together. You made the Fortnite community a big favor, in my opinion.

[@Sp3cialk304]

Hardware Unboxed have said multiple times the issue come when trying to get max gos possible for competive players. That AMD is worse when using performance mode. They say thats the way you would want to play the game. I dont play online shooters, but that's what Steve from HUB says.

[@Broyyyyyy]

exactly, this video completely missed the mark. I don't think he was aware of this though to be fair, as I don't think he knows much about fortnite or why players would still run perf mode over DX12 even if its more stuttery. Zach if you're reading this you should do this again but Performance mode only, guaranteed people would really appreciate a more authoritative figure in the PC gaming community diving into this topic to sort out any possible misinformation or if its actually valid claims about AMD. Cheers

[@nxtrixzer]

sorry but what does gos mean?

[@m4b9]

@@nxtrixzerprob meant to say fps

[@MrNota500]

@@Broyyyyyy Nah he is 100% right other than Nvidia does run better in DX11 and AMD likes DX12. I know because I use both cards and don't listen to people that just repeat what has been said for the last 20 years on the internet. People who say this crap never gave AMD a chance because the internet will tell you AMD is trash and Nvidia is king. So they just buy Nvidia and down talk AMD. It's the same as Ford vs Chevy people pick a side and plant their feet and refuse to look at things from a neutral stand point.

[@moraisrailson]

@@MrNota500 yes bro. AMD cards only work well in Fortnite in DX12, and Nvidia cards work better in DX11 or performance mode which also runs in DX11. performance mode will run bad on amd cards because this mode also runs on dx11

[@Taavettii]

You said the NV cards are horrible in the first game, after a driver update. I think it may be something to do with the shader compilation, but idk why it doesnt happen to amd.

[@MrNota500]

It happens too with AMD it just recovers much faster. It takes like a minute with AMD but Nvidia it takes the whole match. It happens because it is caching textures.

[@GekoFN]

comp player here, performance mode is not only used for fps, it creates a clearer difference between characters and removes unecessary animations, also makes the delay between placing builds lower

[@moraisrailson]

AMD cards only work well in Fortnite in DX12, and Nvidia cards work better in DX11 or performance mode which also runs in DX11. performance mode will run bad on amd cards because this mode also runs on dx11.

[@Gouuui2]

whenever I use dx12 with my 6650xt it takes an extremely long time to get into the game

[@matthewloscar2893]

​@@Gouuui2thats normal for me, but its usually only the first game after the game update, just poor fortnite optimization honestly, dx12 is more stable for amd and will have less stuttering

[@Gouuui2]

@@matthewloscar2893 Yeah it sucks but I figured out that if you sit in the lobby for 10 to 20 minutes you don't have to wait on the loading screen.

[@matthewloscar2893]

@@Gouuui2 I think it's just shaders, sometimes you load in instantly but your game will lag HORRIBLY for the first few matches, then other times you'll load in a minute after the battle bus ended

[@Shahzad12357]

That's not true ​@@matthewloscar2893

[@NitrFN]

Hi Zack, fortnite player here. A lot of players use performance mode instead of dx11 or dx12 as of something called "bubblewrap builds". It is a concept mosts fn pros use.

[@trviis]

Bubble wrap builds got removed around three years ago lol, Im guessing you mean mobile builds, which you can get in dx12 by using near view distance

[@logmeme5271]

Anakin in the beginning kill me Off💀🤣🤣

[@ZachsTechTurf]

Same lol

[@Pineapplecubes]

@@ZachsTechTurf i know

[@bigrob029]

This was actually really interesting and helpful. Definitely a nice break from the usual pc building videos, good to see you stretching your technical commentary legs! I try not to play fortnite.... but when I did it was on a RX570 *with no issues*. Finally upgraded to a 6600 and I think a lot of these tips can apply to a lot of games out there. Looking forward to seeing you take on other popular games with this angle.

[@ZegionKV1]

W upgrade, i went from a gt 610 -> rx 580 -> rx 6600,

[@thefilthycasual448]

very nice upgrade fellas. I used to have an RX 580, played FN for a year no problems. just receently got an rx 6700 10gb. so happy

[@dotxyn]

One of the reasons people use performance mode is because it reduces visual clutter, like removing grass, which significantly improves player visibility. Also, FWIW, when I had a 6800XT, the initial stuttering did happen after driver or game updates. You can reduce this on any card by pre-downloading streamed assets in your Fortnite Epic launcher settings. On that AMD card with the same PC, Fortnite crashed sometimes with a UE5 or driver timeout error. This was after multiple game and driver installs, DDU, etc. It didn't crash nearly as much as the 2080Ti I mained, or now my 4080. However, this could have been due to problems with the game itself and variance with stability on certain updates. I will add that driver timeouts in UE5 games are practically non-existent on my Nvidia cards, whereas I experienced them frequently on AMD, and so have some of my friends.

[@danielmckellar397]

I was thinking the same thing about not using performance mode when he brought it up because I play Fortnite competitive and it is night and day between performance mode and direct x 12

[@zaboxingnation9351]

i play competitive and i usually run performance mode but direct 12 does run close to perfect onmy 4080@@danielmckellar397

[@Ruin1.0]

agreed, I also play comp and decreasing input delay is super important like stable fps

[@chaniibak7702]

@@Ruin1.0he showed dx12 because that’s what gives the stable fps

[@Ruin1.0]

@@chaniibak7702 but the input delay is much higher and there’s more visual clutter, I’d say dx12 is better for more casual competitive players but if you want all of the advantages, playing performernce mode is better do to less delay

[@aoden-yt]

With my RX 7600XT, my game was consistently crashing, and every time I opened Fortnite, the game would prompt me to download drivers even though I had already done so 3 times. I fixed this by simply changing the DPI from Direct 12X to Direct 11X in the game settings. I stopped crashing and no longer got the driver prompts. If anyone is having similar problems, I recommend switching your DPI.

[@MarjinsTech]

Just a tip don't turn textures low if u r playing comp as u can't see through cracks on wooden builds so its much harder to track someone. Personally i would turn down 3d resolution to 70%-85% and make sure that shadows and post processing are off

[@loryt690]

also effects not totally off or you will never know where they are breacking the structure(cause it bounce)

[@MarjinsTech]

@@loryt690 no cause the build still changes to the blue holo texture

[@loryt690]

@@MarjinsTech blue holo? never saw that, I tested that like in ch 2 and you won t know from where they are coming. well good they fixed it

[@erisium6988]

i have no idea what are u saing bro

[@MarjinsTech]

@@erisium6988 when u build a wall as soon as it takes damage it makes the wall have a holo effect. So if I place a wood wall and it takes damage some of the planks go a holo blue.

[@MicahDaRhuler]

Thanks so much Zack, I could not figure out how to fix Fortnite lag after updating drivers, but now I know that just restarting the game fixes it. I think the bug is related to shader compilation though, and how UE just doesn't do a good job of throwing shaders to their own thread.

[@parix8605]

I need to be on performance mode, cause when you play tournaments and there are like 30ish people in a very small place, the game will be a mess with x12. For casual players it should be fine though.

[@Jacksonm.c]

Are you on amd or nvidia? Also are you just saying this or have you actually tried?

[@parix8605]

⁠@@Jacksonm.cI have a 7800xt. I have played multiple cash cups on x12 and performance mode. And in the endgame on x12 I have lower overall fps and more stuttering compared to performance mode. (Before I played on amd I had an NVIDIA graphicscard and it was the same) +there’s a reason why most of the top tier players play on performance mode

[@defyblox7268]

It's ping and most pros have nvidia​@parix8605

[@kirabcg7091]

I playing cash cup on dx12 no problem in a full stack lobby With grass enable because my view distance is on far or epic doesnt remember But im on a nvidia card

[@vFxc]

@@defyblox7268most pros have Nvidia because of streaming

[@stuff_]

been a pc enthusiast for 4 years now, this is the best explanation on fps capping I've ever heard on youtube

[@amti2326]

I know you’ve probably told us all this before but what software do you use for your fps monitoring in the corner ?

[@prestige934]

MSI afterburner

[@amti2326]

@@prestige934 thanks

[@Ethan7_7]

​@@amti2326 Its rtss, not mb

[@Synful_]

fortnite changed a lot. i used to be able to stream with a 3600 and 5700xt 1440p and 160fps now ive upgraded to a 5800x3d, cant stream without huge frame drops. lowered all settings just to get 144fps barely consistent. time to upgrade the 5700xt

[@alessandropisano9903]

I'm on 280hz monitor but i cap the frames a 240fps and i'm one of those people who notice even the differnce between 200 and 240fps. And for the past year i have been using an rx 5700xt for like 6 months with a r7 3700x which i swaped with a 5800x3D in august of 2023. All the chapter 4 was a mess: in mega city while dropping even with the 5800x3D, wich i bought exactly to push the gpu because in that cases with the 3700x the gpu was going under 20% of usage making 60 fps and even the 5800x3D changed nothing. When og season came back in november with the old graphic of chapter 1 i was getting 240fps IN EVERY PLACE!!!!! and the gpu was barely used at 20%!!!!!!!! When chapter 5 came i was getting the same fps as chapter 4 and in reckless railways i was getting 100+/-fps. for me is unplayable. At January of this year i sold my 5700xt and i bought a used rtx 3070 and now i have 240fps capped in every place of the map and this helped me a lot and in just 3 months i improoved a lot just for swapping the gpu. this is not to belittle amd GPUs which i really liked because of the software and in general i didn't have any specific issue and i've Always had a smooth experience but for fortnite (in dx11 and performance mode) amd GPUs are not good. In dx12 they are good because it is optimized for consoles and consoles use an amd GPU which is not a case in my opinion. One solution that i'm curious to try if i have an amd GPU is to use d3d11ond3d12 or whatever is called

[@vicvm.]

I have a rtx2060 with a 5800x3d for a year now and I remember getting 300+fps stable anywhere in mega city, it never dropped from 240 there.

[@alessandropisano9903]

@@vicvm. Are you stupid or what?

[@alessandropisano9903]

@aleksi2858 i know Bro but 40fps more Is not worth to set since the GPU Will suck way more power

[@higgsbosonfan]

You were so close to understanding the actual issue (amd not playing nice with dx11), yet you missed. Not only that, but you created some wild story about "people copying the pros" which is partially true, yet again you missed what they were copying (settings). Fortnite is known to achieve higher framerates on dx12, but pros still use dx11 for better frame pacing, and performance mode to reduce visual noise. This is why people think amd sucks, because outside of dx12, it kind of does.

[@Huddythestuddy]

You're the only yapper that I can listen to and not get bored of 😅

[@3katd]

Same

[@sammcdaniel3744]

Putting that 2 second clip from Portal just made my day. That game was one of the best ever made!

[@R3APZ69uhhh]

I’d recommend dx12 all lowest settings because in far you see stuff like long grass and have high meshes which could put more strain on your GPU

[@DeikoMoon47]

While I was watching this video, the thing is when I used Direct X 12, for some reason I had frame drops EVEN with 90 fps cap, like crazy, but when I used performance mode, i don't have this issue, that's why I'm skeptical about using dx12

[@D2firetech]

Now i know why my iris xe was stuttering on performance mode. 👍

[@asaeed2003]

its so refreshing to see these videos from people who know their stuff and you can tell. These youtube "optimzations" and "fixes" is whats wrong with the community tbh. Thank you for sharing your information and hopefully in the future we can stop missinformation being spread and just enjoy gaming the way its supposed to be.

[@donovin07]

Ive actually been wondering this lately. Alot of people are saying its bad but mine runs fine 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@eonisbest4313]

Do you get stutters in fortnite and any other games also what’s your build ?

[@donovin07]

@@eonisbest4313 i havnt noticed any stutters. Except for this season of fortnite, it so so badly optimized that i get crazy frame drops. I have a 7900xt and 7800x3d 32 gb ram

[@BorutoxEditz]

@@eonisbest4313 ONLY ON PERF MODE DX 12 IS MORE STABLE THAN PERF MODE AND AMD GPU HATES PERF MODE

[@tguit-fiddler5692]

@@BorutoxEditzwhy are you yelling?

[@SuperHeroNexus]

That NVidia stutter driver thing also happens after a game update.

[@charliesretrocomputing]

Every tutorial always says "gO IntO pErfOrmAncE mOdE tO InstAntLy gEt 1000 fps!" but that's not true. On my AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT, the two things that fixed stutters and low FPS were 1. DX12 rendering and 2. Uncapped FPS IN-GAME, and cap FPS in RTSS (this is important because I was getting tons of microstutters when setting an FPS cap in-game and setting it in RTSS (RivaTuner) fixed it. And if you want to remove grass in DX12, just set your view distance to low. Edit: I’m talking about casual non competitive players, I’m not an idiot and I understand how many people there are in an FNCS or cash cup endgame. If you’re a professional or competitive player, I understand that performance mode will help.

[@dotxyn]

Among some other objects, view distance on low reduces your ability to see loot from a distance. All you see is a glowing dot.

[@Gonebeef]

Pretty much true for me Performance mode stutters so much on my 6600 but on dx12 the stutter is reduced or gone

[@charliesretrocomputing]

@@dotxyn That's why I use far view distance... I'm fine with losing 5-10 FPS if it means I can have grass and see enemies and objects from a distance - I use what Zach calls "Pro settings" in DX12

[@charliesretrocomputing]

@@Gonebeef Nice!

[@dotxyn]

@@charliesretrocomputing For me, it's not really about the FPS because it's already high enough. I use performance mode so I can still see some objects from far away and get rid of visual clutter which improves player visibility. For example, sometimes fighting on a hill, someone's head will be peeking over the top, and without grass you can see it, whereas if with grass the player would be hidden.

[@mnml3725]

9:40 It happens because game engine is building shaders, everytime new driver is installed "shader cache" is deleted and game needs to rebuild shaders. Its the same thing also on AMD. But after a couple games it gets sorted out, no need to restart Fortnite.

[@Ruin1.0]

Can you do a vid with performence mode instead of dx12 since the input delay is much lower compared dx12. Input delay is also really important since you have to build a lot and with dx12 the input delay is much higher making it really hard to build.

[@KaiserWilhelm1939]

He won’t because he’s an AMD fanboy, he knows AMD does terribly in performance mode.

[@Ruin1.0]

@@KaiserWilhelm1939 ok good point

[@Fvistugdsggratugfh]

View distance doesn’t affect how far you can see enemy’s, but rather textures and nanites👍

[@friskyfatty3256]

Good video but there is some misinformation here! ⚠️ View distance doesn’t effect how far away you can see enemy players. It only effects textures and loot. You should keep this on low or medium unless your gpu usage is very low. Fortnite always runs worse the first few games after a game or driver update because the game works on a shader caching system. Fortnite downloads assets while in game and sends them to your disk. If your game is always stuttering you probably have some corrupted shaders your system can’t utilize. To fix this close the game then try deleting your directx shaders in the disk cleanup application on windows. Once you relaunch the game should stop stuttering. Fortnite players only claim AMD cards run worse in performance mode, not dx12. Most Reddit posts and guides advise AMD gpu players to use dx12 as you are doing. There is a main difference between performance mode and dx12. Unless you have all the graphical settings enabled DX12 is more strenuous on your cpu. It’s not uncommon to see cpu usage be around 90% to 100% while not using nearly as much gpu so you need to make sure your cpu is staying cool to avoid throttling. Performance mode should use much less cpu, and a little more gpu. But sometimes your usage can be too little. You can fix this by changing your system power settings to high performance and disabling unnecessary background tasks in task manager that are using cpu power and high system memory

[@brodyismael1545]

I'd love to see these tests in stacked endgames where there is so much more demand on the gpu and cpu because of all the players and builds.

[@ZachsTechTurf]

Although it would be great data. I can't imagine how long it would take to test each individual GPU where you have to get to a stacked end game every time lol

[@brodyismael1545]

@@ZachsTechTurf maybe get a bunch of pros using different rigs to test out the gpus

[@vicvm.]

@@ZachsTechTurfJust play a single scrim match and then use replays XD

[@landoelpro4907]

I've seen so many reddits about this "issue" and I've been so tempted to ask if they capped the frame rate. Thanks for all of the tips!

[@kerwex]

Good video, but few things to consider that dx 12 is very experimental on fortnite and it has worse input delay then performance mode, you should really test those gpus in really intense build fights, there would be a really clear winner. Also dx12 has stability issues and more animations adding to the input delay it already has

[@DanteGalvan]

Same I don't know why performance mode fps is so bad but the input delay is good

[@Jiri-Nemec]

Fortnite surprisingly runs well even on RX 550 2GB. I wanted to teach my nephew something about computers so he could understand what's inside and what, for example, changing a graphics card would do. It was an old originally Linux workstation PC and in Linux Nvidia is of course a total tragedy, that's why there was only RX 550 to connect the monitor. It was supposed to be a before and after demo, but for some reason the game on RX 550 in native resolution, dx12 mode with minimal details on 1080p ran absolutely beautifully at 60fps with minimal drops to 45fps. This lesson didn't go too well for me. Fortnite really works on anything.

[@bogdansgaming8106]

Usually competitive fortnite players use performance mode, that's the real competitive settings. The thing they meant is that some settings actually carry over from dx11/12 to performance (not graphics but some techical settings are hidden in performance but still apply)

[@fenypoo]

that’s with the case with Nvidia, not amd. Amd runs incredibly bad on performance mode so using dx12 is better in this case. Definitely not loving it but gotta live with what I have

[@bogdansgaming8106]

@@fenypoo oh. I did not know that. Maybe it depends on architecture and specs since at some points in fortnite's update history performance mode ran worse for nvidia cards too. if so then yea, mb

[@moraisrailson]

AMD cards only work well in Fortnite in DX12, and Nvidia cards work better in DX11 or performance mode which also runs in DX11. performance mode will run bad on amd cards because this mode also runs on dx11.

[@LucsLan]

best tip i ever heard to fix the problem tysm i went from stuttering every 10 seconds to almost no stutters

[@codyfrancis22]

This video completely misses the argument for Nvidia over AMD for Fortnite. The argument comes from using performance mode, which is better on Nvidia cards. You need to start on dx12 and turn all the settings to off/low, apply then switch to performance mode and restart Fortnite.

[@scy4205]

are you stupid? why are u even using performance mode if it runs better for dx12 just use dx12 instead and shut up

[@frijolesborracho9340]

@@scy4205this is a dumb comment

[@ilvulcanoislandese]

Zack, we need the ultimate video editing pc guide.

[@ChuckNorris-yo3hu]

It’s funny the AMD guys are ok going to DirectX 12 and turning all the settings down but when the 13th and 14th gen intel processors have to be turned down or not over clocked for stability they will be DAMNED if they can’t use a product to its full potential!!!

[@ChuckNorris-yo3hu]

@ZachTechsTurf123 scammers….lol

[@samraizshoaib585]

1. Theres a difference between performing worse and failing completely and irreversibly like intel does. 2. Turining settings down is done in most cases even with nvidia cards. 3. AMD cards on dx12 are completely fine for most gamers just not pro ojnes. And they will use nvidia anyway for streaming and because 4090 is by far the best card.

[@ChuckNorris-yo3hu]

@@samraizshoaib585 all 6 of you guys with AMD cards keep telling yourself that…and the tooth fairy is real too

[@MatiePlayz]

bro honestly your such a valid man taking up your time for this

[@vayfn]

as someone who currently uses a amd rx6700XT (swift), the difference between amd and nvidia for fortnite is that, while on dx12, amd might have higher lows, but when you put the nvidia cards on performance mode which gives you better fps and lessinput delay, it out preforms amd by MILES and that is where most peoples problems come in as performance mode is significantly better for competetive.

[@zenky5939]

yeah but who wants to play on dx12? grass is rendered so its bad to see enemies behind hills, other effects and animations are rendered that are bad for playing, like structures breaking animations

[@rezonershorts]

10:53 how did he know

[@mcblazehunter6888]

The directx 12 part is probably the most important, my game went from a stuttery mess on "pro settings" to being able to play on high-epic settings with no stuttering at all just because I changed from directx 11 to 12.

[@SirPanix]

I have a question for you Zach (and anyone else): I have a i3-10105f and had bought a 6700xt last year thinking that it would be the biggest upgrade ever coming from a gt1030 and I was wrong. My 1% lows suck, no matter what I do, whether I'm on DX12 with the lowest settings or performance mode, the game just doesn't run properly. I've tried everything from reinstalling the game to even completely reinstalling windows. What should I do?

[@SirPanix]

Here is a list of all parts: - Intel i3-10105f - AMD 6700xt - 16gb DDR4 - 650w PSU - 500gb M.2 SSD Also not sure if it would be a problem but still wanted to mention that the airflow is pretty good with six 120mm fans.

[@-v3ga]

It is the cpu. The Gpu is being bottlenecked like crazy by the Cpu and also Fortnite is a mostly processor intense game. If you kept your GT 1030 and instead got a 13600k (same price as 6700xt) you would most likely have gotten a lot more fps. Mind you that would not be very great because even though it’s not super graphically intense it still does need a competent GPU.

[@SirPanix]

@@-v3ga I wish I was able to tell my past self this, thanks! Is it worth it for me to just go from this cpu to like a ryzen 7 series and get a whole new motherboard + ram?

[@SirPanix]

Also, say I upgrade the mb, ram, and cpu, should I get a new psu too?

[@-v3ga]

@@SirPanix Well it depends. If you want to spend a bit more money you could go for a ryzen 7600 and a new mb and ram which performs amazing and also has a great upgrade path, or if you don’t want to spend as much money and you don’t care about upgrade path you could get a ryzen 5600 with a new mb but since it is ddr4 you won’t need new ram. If you have the funds i would personally go for he 7600 but it’s up to you. Also you shouldn’t need to upgrade your psu but it would be good to do eventually if you ever want to upgrade again.

[@kel3059]

first time watching a not short from this guy

[@616-j4r]

use DX12 on AMD GPU’s And if you have issues on and gpu, turn Anti-aliasing On and turn up some graphics settings! Effects and Post processing on medium and view distance to Far. And everything else on low! Remember to cap your fps to one setting below your monitor’s HZ, except when your monitor is 240Hz or higher.

[@Michael-uo4jj]

that stuttering after installing drivers is the shader cache / pre loading shaders

[@UltraVegito-1995]

It's Lisa Su from Fortnite

[@captain187cloudy9]

Whenever I turn on Lumen High and RTX, my eyes and fps start to hurt, I think the lighting in build fights makes it hard to focus.

[@chubbyloco957]

Ok but whenever I try switching back to DX12, even with the lowest possible settings on my RX 560 4gb, I go down from 107 to 80 fps, the game doesn't load correctly, and it drops way below 60 fps when it wouldn't in performance mode. Also, Fortnite is kind of CPU demanding as well from what I've tested with overclocking and stuff.

[@MrNota500]

That's a potato gpu in 2024 even in its hay day it was low end. The Vram is too low, ideally you want 8gb minimum if you play in 1080p and more if you play in 1440.

[@denz8ty648]

My R9 290 doesnt even work on fortnite DX12

[@Gaetan.N]

Really good knowledge, still you forgot to factor a couple of nvidia things… for competitive players, Nvidia Reflex low latency is super efficient, and AMD does not have a true conterpart yet. Reflec also acts as a good in-game adaptative frame limiter, therefore removing some need to cap your frame rate but still getting the 1% low at a better level. Besodes,Nvenc encoder is very valuable to many people which needs to be accounted for in price to performance..

[@Wyn3e]

For recording just use h.265 or if ur on rx 7000 use AV1 unless ur twitch streaming then sure but if ur YT streaming not much of a excuse so chuck that nvenc out the window

[@mtbwithjure7809]

Amd for the win!

[@horchatakevin]

You haven’t even seen the full video

[@mtbwithjure7809]

Ik i am just saying that amd is the best

[@lile4life713]

@@mtbwithjure7809amd cpu > invida gpu >

[@horchatakevin]

@@mtbwithjure7809 how is it the best?

[@Luke_B-07]

​@@lile4life713 Hate to break it to you raw Performance amd gpu ray tracing nvidia

[@zsideswapper6718]

RX6600 user here Can confirm DX12 is a lot better than the stutter mess that performance mode is. One thing I'd want to mention is when you set your game to everything low and render distance higher than low (medium- epic), grass and foliage will be forced to max quality, and you cannot remove it even by editing the .ini file as it resets it. So that useless grass will still be there. If you don't wan't it just keep render distance at low but your game will look like crap and some textures animation will break.

[@drewliveryboy]

Me smiling with my 7800 XT

[@3katd]

I wish. I’m about to build my first PC after waiting 8 months to gather all the parts with my family paying for half of it and although I over spent on non-performance parts and bought at a terrible time due to pricing (Christmas) I’m super excited. The specs are an rx6750xt, ryzen 5 7600x, 32gb 6000mhz DDR5, 850w PSU (overspent on an EVGA one and other parts like cpu cooler🤦‍♂️) and every single part except the ram has dropped $10 to even $60. I am gonna re-use the 1tb samsung 980 ssd that I upgraded into my laptop and reformat it.

[@drewliveryboy]

@@3katd hey, it happens! My first PC o researched for almost a year and still ended up getting a GTX 770 and an i3. It was nothing to slouch on lol. You’re sounds much better! And be proud of what you make because it’ll be yours :)

[@RealDudeLines]

​@@drewliveryboy were twinning with gpu

[@drewliveryboy]

@@RealDudeLines let’s goooooooo

[@Its_Army29]

Although I have an Nvidia graphics card, I have no bias by any means towards AMD. The quality of this video is great and very informational! I just think that the main argument for Fortnite is that there are more Nvidia optimizations than AMD.

[@Patexer]

nah bro. everyone uses preformance mode.

[@Diegorgx09]

Tell me genius, who's everyone?

[@Patexer]

@@Diegorgx09 every Fortnite pc player

[@Diegorgx09]

@@Patexer Nuh uh, it's only you

[@Patexer]

@@Diegorgx09 it’s not only me. It’s everyone. No one uses dx11 or 12 for Fortnite unless you’re weird. It’s a competitive shooter, not some game you put the graphics up and admire bruh. Everyone uses performance mode even if they have like a 7800x3d or a 14900ks with a 4090 lol.

[@Diegorgx09]

@Patexer There's no a single man on earth tha plays like that, at least you are in the fncs or something like that, but its not your case or the 99.9% people case

[@StupidLaws313]

Thank u a lot for this video. I have been trying to figure out what graphics card to get for a month or so now, but now I decided on amd

[@StupidLaws313]

Pretty much, I just want a stable 150 fps or so

[@trayz8366]

the moment u see someone saying u better use dx12 with amd u realiaze people are right about amd sucks for fortnite. nobody, literally nobody good on pc plays anything else than performance mode cuz its an advantage with how much less delay u have and better view. if i cant even play any rendering mode on an gpu then nvidia is simply better

[@michaeleales7548]

Turning on "pre-download streamed assets" in the epic launcher fortnite options is huge, removed most of those unnecessary stutters. Makes the game a little bigger but makes it run so much smoother especially for lower end hardware. I used to play on a GT 1030 and made it much more playable.

[@frijolesborracho9340]

used to play on a 1030 too lets go

[@marcel_gorecki]

far view distance doesnt affect the enemies. It only works on the items

[@ExtaticIce]

Fantastic video, Zach! I love that you have a good balance between educating the casuals and adding a pinch more for us enthusiasts.

[@saanterifn]

Most people prefer performance mode because it has less unnecesarry building animations which makes it easier to focus on the opponent, would be nice to see comparisons with performance mode as well.

[@NicewwITIT]

Thank you for this vid zach I'm building a gaming pc switching from console for streaming and content creation and my main game is fortnite this rly helped it has a ryzen 5 and a 6600...

[@biggonometry993]

for testing fortnite on different components consistently, you can play a game out, and then compare the performance with the replay system so they are consistent runs

[@omegagameroyeb3416]

please do more videos on fortnite we have a lot of people looking for information on things like this but we dont have enough

[@j.rodrigues3398]

Passing by to say thanks. I was already giving up on this game, as I suffered from sharp drops in fps, even with an rx 7800 xt. Hugs from Brazil.

[@wilddoggie6640]

i run fortnite on a gtx 1650 and a i5 7600k and i am convinced my 1% lows are in seconds per frame

[@ogm19881]

My nephew has been playing fortnite on his pre build that came with a rx6400 with no issues at 1080p, tsr quality, view distance high and everything else to low. I just recently upgraded him to a rx 6650xt I got on a clearance deal for 170$ at my local pc repair shop.

[@JavaJake123]

directx shader cache might be why the first game thing happened, when updating drivers nvidia might default to deleting that cache

[@Adam-ul2nb]

9:14 that single part was a life saving hhhhhh thank u

[@tronfv]

9:43 It happens because DirectX 12 needs to compile the map shaders. That's why your first 1-2 matches will have terrible fps drops

[@iamhotspurs12]

I've used a 6800xt playing almost exclusively fornite for almost a year and have had zero issues. My game crashed once this week, but it happened to all my friends on console and nvidia as well.

[@Bisectqr]

I watched a comparison between the 3060 and the rx6600 and while yes, the 6600 did slightly beat the 3060 in dx12, setting the 3060 to performance mode caused it to get a 54 fps higher average and 1% lows than the 6600 on dx12. And changing the 6600 to performance mode widened the gap even more. This is why people say amd is bad for Fortnite, not because the pros use nvidia or it’s more popular.

[@br0kenPixel]

12:02 there is no 90 FPS cap option, hopefully Fortnite's updated to have a customizable fps cap rather than a bunch of presets

[@DionataT]

I installed the Pro drivers instead of Adrenaline and it improved 100%

[@johnmackie2377]

hey how can i get rid of adrenaline and download the pro one?

[@frijolesborracho9340]

@@johnmackie2377techpowerup and look for whatever driver app thing they have in the software section

[@pendeqo-de6yh]

now ive heard about this amd not being compatible with fortnite thing but goddamn he proved them wrong i respect it

[@Wicket_nerds]

ANOTHER THING TO ADD pre downloaded stream assets make sure u check that in the options on ur fortnite install in the game launcher this will take some strain off ur ping and delay on ur pc pretty much fortnite doesn't have all of its assets such has skins and pickaxes pre installed with in the game they are streamed from the game servers them selves this can also boost ur fps at times

[@24lox]

The first clip was INSANE 🤣🤣

[@mrhelloguy]

30th day and 93rd time asking ZTT to make a budget ($250) ITX pc build guide.

[@pachithingi6367]

Impossible the pc going to bea potato

[@frijolesborracho9340]

you are not getting a 250$ itx that can run anything

[@yekiwins]

simple answer to any of these questions, GeForce is better at almost everything but some people (including me) don't have enough or don't want to spare the money for an insanely expensive graphics card (or they just like AMD over GeForce)

[@shaneward930]

Bro I love your stuff and the way the explain stuff thanks for being on the internet :D 🎉

[@RailSZN]

as a fortnite player, i can say that many people like performance mode better because the ground is just flat instead of having all the grass and those type of things

[@frankie1376]

after testing it for a few days I have concluded these settings are bad. for reference Ive been gaming on 3700x 5700xt. Initially it looked and felt great. it did boost my frames from 144 pro settings to 200 on these settings. the micro stutters dropped to near zero and it felt like it was finally responsive, however I was performing dramatically worse. My builds went down great and all, Im able see and click heads better but something is off. Im not technical enough to describe what exactly is going on, if i had to guess its a latency issue or perhaps input delay, but i just cant perform the way I was during performance mode. I dont think its a me issue because it felt great and i initially thought these settings were the best but I just cant overlook the amount of loses I take to players I normally do better against. for now Im going back to the dx11 performance mode settings and ordering a 4070 super in order to try out the reflex feature. *note, all my main qualms are during 1v1 build fights and box fights however during BR it actually runs surprisingly well and now am considering testing it out more **UPDATE after updating my MB bios i was completely blown away. Im wrong about AMD, everything fixed! i am now getting 200-240 in 1v1 build battles and box fights and best of all I am now seeing everything as it was meant to be seen! no more latency complaints! it feels like a completely brand new PC! for reference, I am still using the settings from this video and it feels AMAZING!

[@isaacwb_real]

view distance doesnt affect enemy visibility it just affects structures that arent player built

[@joshuaboviall8013]

I currently play Fortnite @ 1080P DX12 High Settings on an AMD RX 6650 XT 8GB, plays smooth and looks beautiful @ 145-165 FPS. Previously used an RX 6600 8GB, RX 590/580/570 8GB, RX 480 4 GB. The only time I have an issue is the first match of the day, for some odd reason Fortnite does a Shader Cache causing me to load into the match late. Otherwise, I've never experienced big FPS drops, even in battle.

[@-AnGeLuS-]

I saw someone fix the problems on Fortnite by just changing the LOW default clock speed through the Adrenaline app, basicly stabalizing the fps/1% lows AND boosting his fps by 80-100 fps.

[@JustAbee433]

i have a 7800xt, fortnite is my main game. it runs buttery smooth with dx12 high preset at 165 fps. i cap it at 165 fps to match my monitor refresh rate. it stutters sometimes in performance mode, not when fighting tho

[@JosiahLM2010]

This is very good information. You can use this for other games as well and it is much better. Thanks Zach for the info 💯💯💯