Is Free Will an Illusion?

[@martinbrookesmusic]

As an improvisational pianist playing for patients and visitors at a hospital in their ‘Healing through Music’ programme, I can attest to the fact that when I consciously quiet the conditioned mind music appears that touches those who require solace. It’s truly humbling. I apply this principle in all other areas of my life. “Not mine, but thy will be done.” 🙏

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

Beautiful.

[@angeloiodice9304]

Inspired thought. The word “inspired” has “spirit” as its root. Hence, a thought coming directly from spirit. For some with complete surrender, every action, every thought is of the inspired nature. The human is purely a conduit for spirit. I have seen some great Taoist healing masters who diagnose and treat disease purely from this realm. It is baffling and awe-inspiring.

[@mindfulkayaker7737]

Great answer to one of the most difficult questions in spirituality. Just few days ago I read and article from Swami Yogananda affirming that there is a free will. And Swami Vivekananda also seemed to encourage the development of will in human beings. For me the simplest answer was given by Jesus when he said. “Thy will and not mine be done”

[@wilma8326]

Will and choice are not the same. What God/Awareness wants IS

[@MarkusMutscheller]

Another example of how gifted Rupert is as a teacher. I have been writing and thinking a lot about free will, determinism and cause and effect. While he doesn't express it, it confirms my intuition and rational thought: There is no free will. Thank you.

[@JBRimes]

I think this was a really good and interesting set of questions from the gentleman enquiring and I genuinely learned a lot from this conversation. It resonated with me anyway and he seems like a very nice person on his journey and wish him all the very best

[@IAMLiamwalker4444]

There is no separate chooser, there is just Pure Choosing😊

[@monsterhuntervideos4446]

Sure, you were pre determined to write this comment by pure choice. You didn't do it. Obviously you've been brainwashed by false teaching.

[@wakeupandflow]

I am a separate chooser you might not be

[@IAMLiamwalker4444]

No worries 😊

[@monsterhuntervideos4446]

@@IAMLiamwalker4444 Maybe there really are no selves because some people have suspended the ability to think for themselves and deny their direct experience of being a self and having a freewill. Maybe they've suspended their self, while thinking they're closer to enlightenment, when really they're becoming more lost. Enlightenment to me is becoming more aware I am a self, gaining more self control, taking more responsibility, and drawing closer to God in relationship, not denying myself and believing I am God. It's recognising I am created in his likeness as a created being, and connecting with him, not thinking I am him. That was the sin of the fallen angels. Not only making themselves God, but thinking they were greater.

[@IAMLiamwalker4444]

@@monsterhuntervideos4446 😊Have a Lovely Day

[@Alex722]

I felt the truth Rupert explained, because I recognised it in me. I FELT the Truth shared. The example with sport players was exceptional ❤🙏🙏🙏

[@swapnilkadu4251]

When "you" say I have problem the problem is seen by ego but after knowledge you see that you are the seen which is witnessing "your" problem.

[@wattaura7621]

Just proves belief is the most powerful aspect of illusion.

[@deanodog3667]

Belief is half of being !

[@wattaura7621]

There is a pattern that thinks and feels based on the substance of the body. Within this pattern exists a literal 'will,' but it is not free. A price is paid, veiling the loving sanctity of ever-present eternal awareness. When one sits in silence with oneself, the natural essence reveals itself, intimately tied to the peaceful replication of existence. It's expected that dark energies align with a particular language, often estranged from the concept of love. These patterns are polarized, whereas infinite awareness remains neutral. 💙

[@James-ll3jb]

Boooool sheeeeet😅

[@cattailer1077]

Those amazing and wonderful inspirational thoughts seem to be coming thru me and others I've observed in my world so much more than ever before! I truly believe that Rupert and so many other teachers like him are playing a huge part in this evolution of man! So exciting to experience and watch. Thank you so much, Rupert, and the many other teachers in our 3D. Such love is felt for and from all of you💖🕊

[@wattaura7621]

💚

[@James-ll3jb]

😂It's all imaginary, ethereal.😅

[@angeloiodice9304]

The very genius of Rupert is his simplicity. These truths were always available in other teachings, yet clouded in tradition, culture, antiquity and mystery. Yes, Rupert gave us The Rosetta Stone to unlocking the simple truth of all time. Simply put, “Awareness is You.”

[@James-ll3jb]

@@angeloiodice9304 . It's just a truism: describes, interprets, explains nothing...."x=x"...well done! Lol

[@cattailer1077]

@@James-ll3jb try listening from your heart/ soul and not your head/ego. It makes a big difference🌟

[@Giorgio825]

Great clip, thank you very much Rupert & Team :)

[@yanakord1078]

For me this question doesn't arise. Free will of whom? It's a question within duality. Mind trying to "clear up" "illusions".

[@waybackvideos6566]

Free will from God. We are all gods.

[@yanakord1078]

@@waybackvideos6566 yeah, but plural is not about the Reality 🙂

[@sumandebroy8968]

You are right, free will for whom? There's no one inside to enjoy free will. But infinite Consciousness definitely has freewill to create and destroy innumerable worlds

[@devanshudesperado]

Do you remember creation and destruction of innumerable worlds??? Nothing is ever created!!!

[@johnyossarian1375]

But who is the one who this question doesn't arise? ;)

[@bestsleepsounds7370]

Choosing is part of the experience, so as a "person" make choices. Enjoy the experience of making choices like any other experience. The idea that you shouldn't worry about making choices has consequences at this level.

[@Puuws]

both enjoying and resistancing that sense of deciding will attach you to it. Just allow as is, you cant force detachement, just look at things preventing it

[@NondualityChannel]

Choices arise in infinite awareness. 🙏

[@James-ll3jb]

What is "infinite awareness"?😅

[@Cardioid2035]

Which is likely predetermined based on mental predisposition

[@NondualityChannel]

@@Cardioid2035 There are conditioning and reactions too, but there is still choice.

[@James-ll3jb]

@@Cardioid2035 What is "infinite awareness"?

[@Cardioid2035]

@@James-ll3jb In all honesty I have no idea... It seems like another new-age spiritual buzz term with arbitrary meaning for those who are ‘awakened’ yet cannot ever fully explain what exactly they’ve ‘awakened’ into. I assume it implies that life is a stream of potentiality that can manifest into whatever you want it to be with infinite choices arising from the law of attraction in tandem with your mental predisposition.

[@truesight91]

All paths are unique and infinite but all paths are within (one divine path) so no matter the path you take its all part of and (within) the greater path. The answer to these questions is always both Yes and No.

[@vidyamadamanchi7091]

If there is no free will, who and what creates the karma of the living being?

[@drewbeedoobeedooooooo4821]

Karma in itself doesn’t objectively exist. Couldn’t you have a different standard of “bad and good” than someone else?

[@MotherTreeNMoon]

This is the best explanation I have ever heard! 😮

[@James-ll3jb]

Then explain it. 😂

[@nedtempleton4873]

@@joajoajb Is it you who has stated something similar to this previously? I'm afraid you're wasting your time with messages like this on here.

[@nedtempleton4873]

@@joajoajb You don't need to convince me, I have a similar understanding and view. I'm curious as to why you're here making these comments. Are you here just to try to enlighten people or do you watch these videos also? Do you make comments like these elsewhere? On other channels and videos on KZbin? If so, where?

[@thedolphin5428]

No, its THE WORST I've ever heard.

[@MotherTreeNMoon]

@@thedolphin5428 I hope you find a better explanation elsewhere. I love the explanation.

[@Mariana-qe2ng]

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou 🙏✨

[@bjsmith5444]

How does he know this? Why do people give him this authority? He's spiralling up his own arse.

[@Glencoe-r3v]

He's drunk on his ego he thinks he is brilliant,it's garbage,they're all middle upper class idiots who think they're the ones 😂 imagine their life talking about no suffering if you just let go,a tree isn't a tree, everything just is, there wasn't a creator, Absolutely rediculous,dark backward thinking life of Reilly,aload of middle as aged men thinking they are gurus pathetic

[@kwixotic]

Well, the inspirational thinking is commonly called "Thinking outside the box." In my acting days it was indeed a very welcome "visitor." Yet the necessary condition for its arrival demands the cessation of normal thinking. Then one becomes the conduit for the Universe.

[@onelovemiamor]

"All knowledge comes from the stars. Men do not invent or create ideas; the ideas exist and men are able to grasp them." - Paraselsus

[@wattaura7621]

The word "pattern" comes from the Middle English word "patron," which originated from the Old French word "patron" and ultimately derives from the Latin word "patronus," meaning "a protector or defender." Over time, its meaning evolved to include a model or guide to follow, leading to its current sense of a repeated decorative design or a model to follow in various contexts.

[@OctavioLopezMaldonado]

I love Rupert

[@rockymohan7]

The word free is conditioned with six emotions desire, anger, greed, egotism, jealousy and attachment. Just channeling this six emotions is free will, nothing more than that!

[@mckennasweda3614]

I have been looking for free will. Am not sure even those count anymore but that is an interesting way of seeing it

[@RamSamudrala]

This is interesting, I agree with this, I think :) - even though it is not totally spontaneously, there is conditioning, it is somewhat or even limitedly spontaneous. There appears to be a stochastic quality to it. I think the free will question is better answered as determinism vs. non-determinism. If there is non-determinism, then the conditioning of Tom's egos/minds/thoughts (in this example) influences the nature of the choices. But if there is only determinism, then there's a master plan, that doesn't resonate.

[@wakeupandflow]

There’s infinite choice I’m the infinite creator

[@raywkilleen]

I have free will, I have no choice.

[@bparcej6233]

Free will/ choices are real in their consequences ( illusion is a dated philosophical concept). Will is shaped by bio psycho socio conditioning and must be understood in this context.

[@cristinatataru5432]

Thank you❤

[@irmabronder]

You can choose to know your True Self or keep living from your ego-sense. That is your only choice.

[@serban2139]

What can we do to open up more or to more inspired ideas?

[@wattaura7621]

Meditate

[@paulbrocklehurst2346]

The problem with Rupert's answer is that thoughts require a thinker just as a dance requires a dancer. We _are_ separate selves in a very obvious sense because we _aren't_ all telepathically connected as one infinite consciousness awareness even though it's possible to consider all there is as one singular entity if considered that way yes but since all known forms of awareness are generally isolated from one another to a greater or lesser extent there's no good reason to call it _one_ awareness but _many_ awarenesses. He says _'Don't anthropomorphize awareness'_ but where can we see an instance of awareness that isn't embodied in some kind of sentient creature? Nowhere. Choices arise in _our_ awareness, they don't arise in leaves choosing to fall from trees do they? They come from living brains & those brains don't even have to be human because a cat can be aware it's raining & choose to find shelter just as we can. Yes an ego is certainly imagined as a thought & I would agree that the idea of our selfhood isn't what it may seem because we don't generally think of ourselves as brain functions operating in such a way that makes us think & feel as if we're something more but all the evidence suggests that brain functions are what cause the illusion we are the thoughts & feelings experienced. (Sensations however seem to happen to "us" despite them also being brain functionality as well). While it's true that inspiration can come to mind seemingly 'out of the blue' (or as Rupert claims from 'infinite awareness) that's much more likely to be caused by subconscious mental processes operating in our brains beneath the surface of our _perceived_ model of selfhood therefore it _seems_ to come from somewhere else e.g. The infinite awareness Rupert attributes it to but that's essentially an appeal to magical thinking & cannot be supported just as _anything_ supernatural can't be.

[@holgerjrgensen2166]

The Life-Desire is the Motor of Life, in direct extension We have Will, (Life-Side) and Gravity (Stuff-side). Renewing and Development happends through Developing-Circuits, end of a Developing-Circuit, is beginning of a New and Higher. In the beginning of a Developing-Circuit, the Will, is at it's minimum-performance, and in the end, at it's maximum-performance. So, Will is Not a Illusion, it is a Life-Substance.

[@Anti79Hero]

And there I was thinking that all my choices and decisions were just trauma responses

[@alejandrosaez1772]

Choosing is conditioned, nobody owns choices.

[@luismoref]

There's free will from consciousness, but when we choose something from only our ego the free will is lost for our mind/ego. Not every choice is from pure awareness. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[@scrollop]

Oh wow, I've read a decent amount of books, but none have so clearly explained the sitation.

[@engelbertus1406]

the concept of choice only exists in the light of choice being a two sided coin - reduced to it's smallest units, reality is not two-sided, but fluid, non-lineair, and time flowing in all directions - all the stuff we experience is just emergent, and reflects itself to an ever so emergent aspect of reality: mind. In the emergent domain, we might think of choice, in the essential domain the concept of choice is preposterous. And there is no clear boundaries where the one becomes the other, because again, this would be a two sided coin. You are just simply where you are and reality doesn't care about your philosophical considerations.

[@johnypohoda3781]

These statements from Rupert present also a reason, why the artificial intelligence cannot beat human mind. The neural models are trained on the past data only and combine these data to find future solutions. It is an extension of the past, without any inspiration from the Greater Mind.

[@Bassywassy20]

I don't believe in free will for so many reasons. It seems that if one follows these 'inspirations' one generally ends up in loving and exciting experiences whereas when one does not it most likely ends up as regret to a missed opportunity. So this whole 'free will' idea, from this perspective, only seems to be the ability to resist the natural course of life and/or happiness. If so, what's the point? Having free will meaning the option to resist life and/or experience things that deviate from what this perspective of yours would enjoy? What's the point of having the ability to do something you dislike? There, for me, the free will argument becomes void.

[@goenmo]

You make choices, but they are not truly free, as they are contingent on variables you have no control over, or often conscious awareness of. Your moment to moment thoughts and decisions rely on genetics, culture, education, nutrition, social status, environment, and probably dozens of other variables, which affect the micro structure of your brain and control the probability of your choices at an unconscious level. You are as responsible for your next thought as you were for being born.

[@alanfrancis9225]

Having spent decades in toxic trances I can confirm that period was not free will. Automatic . Although at the time I thought it was free will. I have more free will now but how much? As we go in and out of trance all day long and are not even aware of this? As our behaviour is governed by survival and invariably driven by trying to repair unconscious needs do we have free will? Apparently most of our decisions are made outside our consciousness “before” we are consciously aware of them.

[@juliejordy4529]

Is synergy inspired? Is it in fact inspiration?

[@deanodog3667]

Wtf is infinite awareness!!

[@eddiebeer4516]

Look at the word "Inspiration". You are breathing in, or in a greater sense taking into yourself something from the greater existence. The translation comes from the same root as spirit.

[@Who2youtoo]

I feel the question wasn't answered but Rupert did a great job on describing the mechanism at play. If I may answer the question. Yes, free will is an illusion and is easily provable although the listeners will find it difficult to accept as it is almost undetectable and I would not have seen it if the creator (god) had not given me to see it. The question is not if we are real. The jury as they say is already out on that question and no we are not real and nor can we ever be. However we do exist don't we. You are reading this. The answer is simple and beautiful. Ramanamma Who? Author and 21st-century prophet answers this question and reveals what is going to happen next. Thank you, Rupert and team, for providing the inspiration. God's L.A.W to you all and your families ❤️🙏RW

[@Glencoe-r3v]

You said nothing of worth,ego eccentric MINDSET all baloney with no point made except God has shown you a minor detail ,and sosho said there's no CREATOR what a load of twaddle inside out nothing that leads to no soul and ignorance is bliss,rubbish Absolutely

[@zachburnett2433]

~ Foundling I'm calling out. I'm 3 years of age. No answer. Am I alone? Mom..Dad..Jesus? Ahh, I'm simply a cog in the wheel. An opening. God is calling. God is pushing. god is pulling. god is relentless. Why call out? Why try? Why suffer God's wrath willingly? Am I a servant? No, you are a slave. Obey what is. Submit....Sink in. Silence. Stillness. Serenity. Let go (:

[@movahedmosavi1596]

❤

[@deanodog3667]

Goats can only graze where they're tethered, you have free will to the extent as to whether you prefer coke or Pepsi!

[@No-self_No-problem]

🙏

[@swamitripurari5650]

How is it that a thought that is based in ignorance arises in the infinite self when enlightenment, according the Neo Advaitin perspective Spira espouses, is beyond thought-any thought for that matter?

[@skoog5600]

It’s whatever you want to label it. It’s just a word. Simple as that. And you don’t have to pay me for that.

[@corey4856]

Can someone explain this in simple terms?

[@Corteum]

If you choose to believe free will is an illusion, then you'll have to deny facts like neuroplasticity, the placebo effect, the effects of meditations on biology and gene expression, and the double slit exp.

[@Corteum]

@TheVoided123 Of course it does. If deliberately modulating ones thoughts, emotions, and intentions can change the physical structures of the brain, biology, behavior, speech, or any other physical process or outcome, then that means we are able to consciously influence or change the course of future events to our personal preference to some extent (to what extent is yet to be fully explored). What would be expected to happen, though, assuming that everything is determined, is that changing thoughts, emotions, or intentions should have no effect on anything since everythng is supposed to be pre-determined by factors which are not subject to intent, thought, or emotion.....But that's not the case at all. We we see instead is that the brain, behavior, biology, gene expression, etc, are all subject to influence by consciousness. And that, my friend, tells us one thing --- that determinism is a load of baloney. And if you want to believe in baloneism, please, by all means. But let's be very clear: You're not practicing science... Rather, you're practicing some kind of new age religion/scientism bs and trying to pass it off as science... because you're too emotionally attached to that nonsensical view point.

[@Corteum]

@TheVoided123 Of course it does. If deliberately modulating ones thoughts, emotions, and intentions can change the physical structures of the brain, biology, behavior, speech, or any other physical process or outcome, then that means we are able to consciously influence or change the course of future events to our personal preference to some extent (to what extent is yet to be fully explored). What would be expected to happen, though, assuming that everything is determined, is that changing thoughts, emotions, or intentions should have no effect on anything since everythng is supposed to be pre-determined by factors which are not subject to intent, thought, or emotion.....But that's not the case at all. We we see instead is that the brain, behavior, biology, gene expression, etc, are all subject to influence by consciousness. And that, my friend, tells us one thing --- that determinism is a load of baloney. And if you want to believe in baloneism, please, by all means. But let's be very clear... by doing so, you're not practicing science. Rather, you're practicing some kind of new age religious-scientism.... i.e. believing in things that don't fit the facts.

[@Corteum]

@TheVoided123 _" None of that disprove determinism "_ Of course it does. If deliberately modulating ones thoughts, emotions, and intentions can change the physical structures of the brain, biology, behavior, speech, or any other physical process or outcome, then that means we are able to consciously influence or change the course of future events to our personal preference to some extent (to what extent is yet to be fully explored).

[@Corteum]

@TheVoided123What would be expected to happen, though, assuming it's all pre-determined, is that changing thoughts, emotions, or intentions should have no effect on anything since everythng is supposed to be pre-determined by factors which are not subject to intent, thought, or emotion. But that's not what we observe. What we observe is that the brain, behavior, biology, gene expression, etc, are all subject to influence by consciousness. And that, my friend, tells us one thing --- that determinism is a load of baloOOHhhhney. The end. 😁

[@Corteum]

@TheVoided123_"so what's your proof that we have free will? Cus you seem to think you know everything. So prove it."_ Actually, it's pretty clear you're the one beliving "there's no free will" when free will is staring you in the face (unless ofc you're an NPC, which i'm nto ruling out btw!). It also doesn't bother me that some people continue to believe in nonsense. Just dont go around acting like "you know everything".... to use your own words!. I dont know about you, but i use my free will every day to get shxt done. And that's all the proof i need. And as i pointed out - neuroplasticity, placebo effects, the observer effect, quantum decision making theory; and so on... all of which contradicts your outdated belief system. Maybe you should consider updating that old dinosaur thinking pattern. But as I pointed out, and which you completely overlooked [because you're obviously deeply committed to your limited, but ultimately, flawed, world view], if everything was predetermined, then choosing to focus on specific thoughts, emotions, or intentions, should have no affect on outcomes; it shouldn't be able to change things like heart rate, brain activation patterns, or gene expression... but it does. And if you're too foolish not to see that as evidence contradicting your silly belief system, then by all means, keep your head firmly burried in the sand and see how many "f's" anyone gives as science continues to expand on its understanding of consciousness and the role consciousness plays in reality.

[@kaitlinobrien243]

❤❤❤

[@lifeiswise]

❤😊

[@widipermono854]

🙏🙏🙏

[@tedgrant2]

I don't think "free will" is an illusion. I think it's something humans desire. Like the second coming or peace on earth.

[@robinhood6954]

There's no point in even having free will when the things you DO will are for the most part never forthcoming, lol! ☝️🤔

[@levlevin182]

If you can't free willy then how can willy free the spirit from being? 😮

[@1FREDARMSTRONG]

OSHO INTERNATIONAL (video on KZbin) has an interesting view of WILL AND DESIRE. but what i sense about your asking of the question: if by WILL you are referring to "that which is the "power / determination to go on", it would seem our experiential references are limited to manipulating tools, methodologies within a given sociological context. your experience(s) /references in that context, keeps you attached to the limits of manipulating the physical world. what RUPERT and other teachers of EASTERN or MYSTICAL schools are attesting to, is the recognition of the "WILL / EXPERIENCE, of phenomena, that gives rise to all life (and substance to inorganic matter). it may be named GOD, THE DIVINE, THE LOGOS, OBJECTIVE REALITY, THE WILL OF THE ABSOLUTE, etc., (all cosmic forces in motion, from which the fabric of "life" is "woven".) the idea of having "free will", seems to suggest independence, and the power to persevere. notions that may go back to the GARDEN OF EDEN, ( the separation of MAN from the divine.) to understand how that might be so, you will have to do your home work with the bible. if you can see what transpires in that FALL FROM GRACE, you can see man as an alienated entity, from that which gives him life. in the east, there is another notion called NON-DUAL, which takes MANS psychological context away from the STATIC psychology or of absolute right and wrong, and suggest a more dynamic psychology, which ask for a more "relativistic" perspective, not LIMITING MANS understanding of his experience and experience of the world/universe. the NON-DUAL psychology in play, then opens the door for increased awareness/sensitivity and EXPERIENTIAL development. the view or aim is no longer about re-acting to the limits of what ever context the world might have imposed, but, beginning to experience the world and himself as of the same process. to know the worlds processes, evidenced in the action of all phenomena, organic and inorganic, can one not see the action(s) working through oneself. (written by all things, strong to all things" Joni Mitchell, Shadow and Light.) if you can experience this, there is no longer an issue of your WILL BEING FREE. the energies animating your existence, and arise in the process of your awareness, are the same as those in all other phenomena. you may have "degrees of freedom" in this context, related to the physicality and conditions of your existence, but, the concern for the VIEW/EXPERIENCE, PSYCHOLOGY, SPIRITUAL VIEW underlying the nature of you existence will belong to the WILL OF THE ABSOLUTE, THE DIVINE, GOD, THE LOGOS, or what ever notion of UNITY there might be. ... hope this helps a little. i was a victim of imposed experiential limits of existence for many years. what's that old saying " there are non so blind as those that refuse (or can not a way) to see.""

[@gharbisaida1086]

Every one of us was born free ,i'am free and no one Can Guess what was going in m'y mind .

[@manis3758]

It is an illusion. God was and is real doer in my life.

[@monsterhuntervideos4446]

No, that would make God a sinner if everything you did was him doing it.

[@relaxedguy]

We’ve got no free will. Stop attributing stuff to us that isn’t there. - Stanford neurobiologist Robert Sapolsky 😃

[@johnbowen4442]

Yeah I heard about his book , but I refuse to read it even though I been told its a must read .

[@relaxedguy]

​@@johnbowen4442 Feels like we're on 90% auto-pilot, with millions of "What should I wear/eat/do today" thoughts that masquerade as choice. None of us are regulating the chemical pathways in our brains to achieve a desired outcome. Doesn't matter what we do, who we marry, or what we read, but a part of us sure does love hanging on to the idea that we have some sort of control. Fascinating to ponder.

[@sugarcravings1797]

So, free will is an illusion.

[@monsterhuntervideos4446]

No, the belief that there is no freewill is a delusion, wrought by self deception.

[@pilargarcia6724]

🙏🤍💛🧡❤️🩷

[@monsterhuntervideos4446]

The belief that we don't have freewill is rooted in self delusion. The reason people embrace this teaching is so they can feel they have no individual responsibility for anything they do, and can reason, therefore, there is no objective moral standard (like God) that they are morally accountable to. Or they can create a false god who is indifferent to sin, of course. It's the same reason people created Moral Relativism. People may not realize they are doing this, but subconsciously and spiritually they are. If you disagree with and respond to this comment, remember, you believe I have no freewill, and therefore I had no choice in writing this comment. You have to believe I was determined to write it, and you are just determined to respond. That's nonsense woo woo ideology. Freewill is a properly basic belief, and we all experience it as totally real. If people want to deny their God given experience, let them walk in the dark.

[@nedtempleton4873]

I'm afraid you're wasting your time with messages like these on here.

[@monsterhuntervideos4446]

@@nedtempleton4873 Mostly yes, but there are always a select few people who will question what they're being told, and feel something isn't quite right.

[@calvinrakotobe5583]

​@@monsterhuntervideos4446 Here we (at least, in my view) are only are interested in peace and happiness. We don't need to derive happiness from reinforcing individuality through intellectual discourse like you seem to do. Find that in yourself that is free of any belief and you'll find what you have longed for all your life. Absence of lack IS the absence of any belief, even the most rooted belief like belief that I'm a personal entity separate from reality. Are you ready to have zero belief about the world and yourself? What are you without all your preconceptions/beliefs on yourself and the world?

[@monsterhuntervideos4446]

@@calvinrakotobe5583 Everything you just said is belief though, and therefore defeats itself, and is all incorrect. Happiness and peace cannot come to any degree for people who don't believe they really have a self or a freewill, because one cannot logically take personal responsibility for any action if they believe they are not a self with a freewill. They are lost in the dark, and deceived by false teaching. If there is no freewill or self then everything is determined, so you have no control to create peace or choose good if there is no chooser to choose it. You can talk about suspendimg belief all you like, but it's a contradiction because you have to believe there is no self, no freewill, etc, etc. That is not suspending belief, rather it's having your own beliefs while you belief you are not a self. On the contrary it's believing that I really am a conscious soul who can make real meaningful choices and take personal responsibility that enables me to create peace and happiness in my life. Without acknowledging that I am at the hand of determinsm, where whatever happens happens, good or bad. There is no guarantee of peace and hapiness under such a worldview. It all depends on how things play out outside you, or your sense of you. If you can't see the obvious problem here or the spritual bankruptcy of this worldview, then I don't know what else to say, other than you wake up. I onced believed all this false teaching, and it never sat quite right with me. I did wake up from it and recognised it for what it is. Vain philosophy, false religion, and idolatry.

[@calvinrakotobe5583]

@@monsterhuntervideos4446 It's not a worldview. It is what you are. I'm happiness itself. It's not a self-belief. It is the self. My individuality blossoms after this realization because it is now informed by peace and not by the neurosis of the ego :) But I understand that for the mind it can be scary to discover that the self in which all your life has gravitated is non-existent. But what is behind is truly sublime. I hope you'll find what you want in life. God bless u.

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