Is FREELY TV In Trouble?

[@AvGeekLucky]

I'm surprised they're going the new TV route, when there are already plenty of streaming boxes/sticks (Google TV, Xiaomi, Apple TV, Fire TV, etc) and Smart TVs out there that can run an app that steams TV. If they want this to be successful, make something that works on existing hardware.

[@anthonyduncalf-uk]

The biggest problem is the cost of the broadband . Not everyone has it or is willing to pay for it just to watch TV. And there's also issues if you are in say a caravan if over the air Tv is turned off eventually.

[@DavidMander-rs4uk]

The trouble is it's not FREELY available 😆👎

[@johnb9624]

How many times have we heard that try something original

[@syed_mamoon99]

If they make a Firestick version of it, it'd bring a lot of users onto the fold.

[@Mondasian]

At the moment, it feels more like a scam to sell televisions

[@OblivionSpl]

Watching TV has never been free in the uk, you still have to pay a tv licence to watch FREEview channels

[@markcaldwell778]

​@@OblivionSplYeah but who is daft enough to buy a licence when most of the time you aren't required to have one

[@OblivionSpl]

Anyone who wants to watch live tv/streams or use any British made streaming service.

[@ynyslochtyn]

It will effectively be freeview (for major channels) but with added internet method of viewing channels.

[@davidwestwoodharrison]

My confusion about "terrestrial as a back up" is that the cost of broadcasting over the air costs the same whether 1, 100 or 1million people are tuned in. Whereas with the internet model - there is a direct cost per viewer.

[@robinmorton7542]

I hope they are going to produce set top boxes as I have no intention of replacing my current TV's for a while.

[@frglee]

They say they are not.

[@jbullen82]

​@@frglee Although, that may just be saying that now to sell TVs. I reckon down the line they will be forced to do it if they actually want people to use it. There isn't much addtional benefit to the streaming services.

[@markcaldwell778]

​@@jbullen82True but as Freeview fades out unless you buy a new TV you're not going to watching anything so you've basically got no choice. I don't think the people behind tv in the UK really care.

[@jbullen82]

@@markcaldwell778 Linear TV is becoming obsolete. A TV as an object itself may even become obsolete as more and more people use more individual devices like phones, tablets, laptops, VR headsets etc. I think this is not the right time for the broadcasters to introduce something which adds nothing on top of what the streaming services already do. A lot of people in the country don't have a reliable internet connection and some don't have an internet connection at all. Linear TV is something that caters more and more to older people. Repeating the same schedule every day. I don't think it is worth investing in a new TV for what is on offer these days. The benefit of a new TV is diminishing. There is no point having a TV better than 4K. 4K is 10 years old now so a lot of people already have a 4K TV. Actually, TV broadcasts are very rarely even available in 4K even on iPlayer.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

My main worry with Freely is that it sounds like it will default to BBC iPlayer's "watch live" option rather than showing BBC One's (for example) feed. This is a problem as BBC iPlayer consistently refuses to offer both subtitles and audio description at the same time on any programming. (This is especially irritating as it is the only pairing of accessibility options that is not available, and the one pairing I absolutely need). There’s also the issue that some people of older generations simply won’t understand how any of this works. Would they simply have to stop watching TV at all once their currently-used services stop, or are there plans in place for such situations? (Even my non-dementia-sufferer grandmother doesn’t understand that simply getting a HDTV doesn’t automatically mean you’re watching HD feeds. You must still actually select the HD channels [101 rather than 1; 108 rather than 8; etc. to achieve that!)

[@brandonlee7382]

Hopefully they don't do that. Hopefully the watch live will just be freeview but online version. Beings as its only certain channels that work through Internet it does worry me that you might be right. Once freely becomes mainstream and everyone has it then I reckon we will see freeview get shut down. Seems most homes have Internet these days but funny enough I moved into this house 2 months ago and still waiting for Internet to come as this house belonged to older people before so they never put Internet in it. But there is bloody telephone wires in every room which I geuss was modern back in the old days. Anyways I think Freely for sure will be a App so even if your TV doesn't get the app because it may be a old smart tv but our consoles probably will get it and amazon sticks. I reckon smart tvs made in the last 2 years or so will get the app. But who knows maybe TV manufacturers want to be cheeky and not even add it to some 2024 models. I have a LG C3 Oled and it came out last year so I hope it gets it but if it don't then I hope it comes to the Xbox console

[@djsarahjones]

The thing with it taking internet as priority over Ariel. I've got fast enough internet to watch TV. But having upto 3 TVs always taking up to 10mbps each before whatever I want to use on computers/devices. Whereas they could just be coming from antenna or dish without touching my internet bandwidth. It just they expect us to have bandwidth to waste. It's like they think we don't have anything else we want to use the full chunk of our internet for at times. 🤷

[@normix]

I only just bought a tv last year so won't be throwing out a working tv just for freely. Either offer it as third party app for existing smart tvs or release a hdmi dongle. Even sky released a box because they knew people wouldn't want to be tied to having a sky glass tv.

[@whoam42a1]

Freely will force people to have a tv licence.Once conected to the internegt is will inform them what you are watching. Scam ?

[@paulc4199]

This video doesnt even try to answer the question set in its title. Furthermore, this is the second of your videos I've watched on the subject of Freely hoping for information but your channel appears to be simply you reading out RXTV blog posts and adding very little else?

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

I literally only here about Freely on this channel. I totally forgot it existed

[@flatoutflatbroke]

I just don't get the logic of not launching the service as a set-top box and or/an app restricting it to new TVs is just bizarre. People don't just chuck their TVs away particulary if they've got an higher end one. I'd happly buy a Freely box to supplement my Rokus on my bedroom TVs etc. as Freeview over IP via Sky Stream/EE TV is a big step up in picture quality so I'd imagine Freely is of a similar standard, but I'm not getting rid of perfectly functional TV's to do it. As for promotion this seems to be a very soft launch so perhaps they are waiting until there's a wider range of TVs available and hopefully by then they will see the sense in launching a set-top box/streaming stick.

[@NicholasJH96]

It’s basically like tv plus except you can pause on freeley. Tv plus has an app but only available on Samsung tvs & Samsung phones.

[@NicholasJH96]

It’s 2028 for satellite with sky contract expired as current satellite is end of service in 2028. Freeview is guaranteed until 2034 but mux operator can shut it down earlier which would be more than likely in 2032. Like sky are doing from August ancient sky boxes SD are losing all channels. That will happen to Sky+hd boxes & Sky q boxes, meaning Sky glass or Sky stream from 2028 onwards. Freely would be also be replaced ment for freesat when it happens. Freeview play should be hanging on by lim by then, before normal freeview shut down

[@daddychunk]

My words exactly mate!! 👍 I have a great Oled TV, but I have not the best Ariel reception (Heathrow) Ive got sky stream which is great, but if I could buy a "Freely Box" I would dich sky immediately 🤔 I don't want a new TV I have a great TV already. ?????

[@stevealbon6745]

Do you think there will be a Freely box to just buy for older TV.

[@sophie_drachen]

How on earth would Freely work in rural areas? The simple answer to this would be that it wouldn't work, some areas can't even pick up a consistent TV reception. The weird thing is that they didn't decide to launch set-top boxes for those that can't maintain a steady internet connection, that would've been a more sensible idea.

[@loftlegacy]

Caravan parks spring to mind!

[@jacomoss3041]

I only heard about FREELY from Adam Martyn and Posters on Side of Buses

[@simonsaysrewind]

Ditto

[@dml1970]

The lack of an app for all smart tvs will be the downfall.

[@jonathan75801]

Why does it seem they want people to buy a new tv to access it. Won't be worth it unless they make an app or box for it.

[@IronsWorks1990]

I've seen the odd advert on tv and billboard. If they make it more accessible to people it'll definitely take off. Just release a stick or set top box and you'll have the perfect stocking filler.

[@tgheretford]

I suspect to appease all the rights holders and intellectual property owners in terms of digital rights management and copy management, Freely is being heavily restricted in terms of which manufacturers can include it. I'm guessing this is why we haven't seen the likes of Humax and Manhattan jump on board - likely cost too much to justify and the margins would be too tight to deliver a Freely set-top-box. And maybe why we're not seeing an app via smartphones and streaming devices.

[@loftlegacy]

I'm looking for a new TV but don't know whether to hold off until Freely is more freely available and established.

[@daveac]

Connecting via internet rather than an ariel - which is the preference for them I guess - means, for the users -'Targeted Adverts' That's what's likely to be pushing this change!

[@interstat2222]

It's all about data collection and dissuading recording.

[@samstele]

I’ve just caught an advert for freely on the box - only time I’ve seen an advert for the service though 😂

[@JennyDavies153]

12:35 Saw an advert on tv yesterday hence why im here.

[@JennyDavies153]

Just been to Currys and not one person who worked there had ever heard of it.

[@brandonlee7382]

We have a FREE ariel but now they want us to rely on internet in the future when they eventually will get rid of ariel.

[@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361]

dont worry there will be nothing worth watching by that stage ...they will have wiped out all the old programmes like 'Fahrenheit 451' .enjoy 'Lovejoy' while you can .......

[@GenialHarryGrout]

If you don't want to buy a new TV or have a data cap then it appears that you're out of luck

[@markcaldwell778]

True. Most Internet providers do cap their services. In fact the only one I've found that doesn't is Virgin Media. Expensive but the streaming is unlimited so you can bladder it 😂👍

[@andromedaone3640]

If they phase out tv through a aerial or dish more people will say sod the licence because lots of people cant always afford the cost of landline internet and when that gets cut off they wont want to pay the licence, more to the point the cost of monthly internet is more than enough.

[@Tom_murray89]

No surprise as the saying goes if it ante broke don’t fix it

[@MartySulls]

I've noticed whilst switching from Freeview to watch football on UHD via the iPlayer that there is a 5-10 second lag. Will all internet TV be a few seconds behind a transmission signal?

[@arthurvasey]

The transmission is already slightly behind between broadcast and receiver in the days when we still had analogue - can’t set your clocks by the Greenwich Time Signal - even with normal radio vs DAB!

[@MartySulls]

@@arthurvasey Yes the digital lag. The most straight forward was analogue. Signals are all over the place now.

[@Sheffield_Steve]

@@arthurvasey You can just revert back to Radio 4 FM on a radio to set your watch to it.

[@dlarge6502]

Yes the streaming version will lag significantly behind and that is unavoidable.

[@katrinabryce]

Yes, there will always be a lag with streaming. 5-10 seconds is actually pretty good. KZbin live streams are typically about 25 seconds.

[@frglee]

I need a new tv as my 12 year old one is at the end of its life. So I had a look at freely a few months back. However all there was for sale with Freely installed were a few Hisense products at the startup - and they weren't cheap. Freely doesn't work with standard smart tvs and there are no boxes either. Afraid I zoned out here as you explained the complexity of the set up. All I want, really, is something you can bring back from the shop, plug in and the tv channels all work. Can't be doing with anything too complicated. For me, I think my 30 year old satellite dish and a freesat box is the answer for now. I'll just get a simple new telly.

[@NicholasJH96]

Freesat along with satellite Sky will lose satellite in 2028 as its end of life for satellite they use. They won’t be another one coming for it either. My freeview single is rubbish I have it recode most things to watch. Somehow it records but said no single or weak single on my freeview. Once I watched what’s left on there, my freeview play box is going.

[@CJ-yk6zo]

Without an app or webpage to access the channels, its a non starter

[@Music.Movies.67]

My mum does not get a good TV reception through her roof aerial, so l told her about this new thing Freely on Hisense TVs. So decided to order a Hisense TV for my mum, she just got it. Not too good an experience that's for sure, for starters not all the channels she wanted, Drama channel and Talking Pictures channel, not on Freely. Most annoying thing was that l thought because Freely is through Broadband that the picture would be stable, well that's a joke quite a few channels were breaking up more than through the roof aerial. I can see me getting a lot of phone calls about Freely picture break ups. For elderly people like mum it's going to be confusing for them if program they want is breaking up on Freely, so they have to try and see if that channel is maybe working through the connected roof aerial, even though Freely is advertised as being able to do away with your roof aerial. So after that if the roof aerial channel is bad, they have to go find if it is on live TV on say one of the players like ITV player. Update my mums TV does not work with Freely seems just picking up TV channels through the roof aerial, because when l disconnected the roof aerial and press Freely button says cannot get channel because cannot tune. What a nightmare, just to watch something on TV. Its a good job my mum likes reading lots of books

[@mattsmith8124]

Are the other online services on your mums TV working ok?

[@Music.Movies.67]

@@mattsmith8124 Yes all the online service apps work okay, BBC iplayer, ITV X Player, All 4 Player, Demand 5 player

[@Music.Movies.67]

​ Yes online services are working

[@1LittleTinker]

Which hisense model did your mum get? This sounds terrible, no wonder there isn’t much advertising. I’m wondering if remove ariel then factory reset the tv, see if it forces freely to work without ariel then?

[@lucymorrison]

I wonder if the people running this whole shebang realise that a massive amount of people (including me) have a telly from like, 2008 and it works and looks fine. no intention of upgrading it. watches tv fine, connects to streaming devices fine, works with games consoles fine. Why spend a fortune on a new TV with worse build quality and a negligible difference in picture when you could just... Not?

[@markcaldwell778]

You'll be fine for now. By the time it becomes necessary you're current tv will likely have long since passed away.

[@oobenoob]

Agreed. They should either release a set top box or a freely app for fire sticks etc.

[@GoosePlays20]

Why not bring out boxes to save us money

[@samuel-wankenobi]

I've said this from the start no one is going to buy a new TV just for freely

[@Reginald277]

My tv is connected to the internet but no freely channels work ( they only work if the aerial is plugged in ?

[@HektorBandimar]

I would never buy a Bush TV with Freely. Freeview in my area can have poor reception too, unless it's a sales channel, they never seem to have bad reception!

[@anthonyperkins7556]

Some broadcasters are dragging their heels over going on the platform, and I frankly don't blame them, it's being pushed in too fast and implemented too quick, and it'll take ages for decent broadband internet to get to everyone, and if the internet goes down, then what next if there is no fall back? Is the attitude from Everybody TV "tough, roll with it or die?". Some more TV manufacturers have recently signed up to providing sets for it too.

[@tgheretford]

I'm guessing it's more pressure from mobile phone companies who want the lucrative frequencies and will pay far more for the spectrum than the broadcasters ever could which is why they need to rush Freely out. The alternative is that all television (maybe even radio in the further future should the mobile phone companies expand their desire for VHF) goes exclusively behind a paywall.

[@anthonyperkins7556]

​​@@tgheretford Sorry, it's nothing to do with the mobile phone companies at all trying to push it, it's the five main UK broadcasters who are pushing this and rushing it into service actually. The cost of digital terrestrial transmission and digital satellite transmission is a cost the main broadcasters want to eliminate by going IPTV only for delivery, but this is also complicated by small budget channels using SD quality video playback servers ie Blaze, Rewind TV, That's TV, and Talking Pictures TV, because they don't have big budgets to go HD or Ultra HD 4K or can afford to transmit at higher bit rates to improve the visual quality who don't want to change at all. If you want to broadcast via Sky Glass, Now TV or Sky Stream, you have to broadcast in HD 1080i at the very least or Ultra HD 2160p at the most. SD or Upscaled HD where standard SD sources where are merely upscaled to HD are not acceptable.

[@tgheretford]

@@anthonyperkins7556 It is. Mobile phone operators want more spectrum for bandwidth and they're prepared to pay far more than broadcasters. If you're a Government, who would you give the spectrum to?

[@anthonyperkins7556]

​@@tgheretfordYou are wrong! It is the broadcasters pushing this! I give up. You want everything IPTV like the broadcasters do, and you do not care about the small fry who can't get decent broadband or adequate mobile signals in rural areas, and don't come the old "yes they can" excuse. Also there are elderly people who do not want broadband to get their TV fix at all, but that doesn't matter in the name of business!

[@tgheretford]

@@anthonyperkins7556 The auctions and plans for the UHF spectrum suggest otherwise.

[@gazzaman28]

I have Virgin Media TV and an ageing Freeview box in a bedroom which struggles for reception. I desperately need a Freely 'stick' and would happily spend £50 for it, but I'm not buying a new TV, that's so wasteful.

[@kaderkyezu9855]

Does anybody know if other streaming apps can be installed onto Freely TVs? Like you can do on streaming devices

[@syed_mamoon99]

Freely would work wonders if they use British cloud providers other than just relying on AWS or other major providers.

[@GeoNeilUK]

Freely is in trouble and will always be in trouble until they give us an app. An app to run on a set top box An app to run on an EETV box An app to run on a Roku An app to run on a Firestick An app to run on an Android device An app to run on a PlayStation An app to run on an XBOX An app to run on a Nintendo Switch An app to run on Windows An app to run on a Mac An app to run on a Steam Deck We need an app!

[@Jayenkai]

100%. Until we get an App, I'll continue to be convinced that this is just a collusion to force people to buy a new TV.

[@brandonlee7382]

Seems like a really slow launch. They should have made the app first. I'd imagine many smart TVs will get the Freely as an app so even 2023 models will probably get it as long as the manufacturers let it release on their older sets. Consoles need it for sure.

[@ynyslochtyn]

Even with app it will be decidedly underwhelming. It should support much wider range of, what used to be, free to air problems.

[@PaulPhillipsUK]

And how will the app make money? Freely is a company, they have to pay the bills

[@lukeskywalker2405]

It will never get significant market reach until they make it an app. It’s madness this hasn’t happened 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@christianschmeer]

The fact that there won’t be an app e.g. for Apple TV kills it for me.

[@markcaldwell778]

Plug a dongle into it.

[@Reginald277]

It needs a antenna. When I unplug the antenna the channels go off

[@uphoriak]

Honestly the quicker they roll out Freely rhe better. Our freeview has always been crap, we live in a natural valley 25 miles away from the nearest transmitter snd all it takes is some less than perfect weather and BBC, Dave and all associated channels get knocked out. We used to rely on freesat until recently when our box/cables broke and stopped working, so tor now we are relying on swapping smart tv apps whenever we want to watch something on free to air tv, except we have to use a phone as our EPG, its honestly all clunky and cumbersome. The problem is our tv is actually alright, and freely doesnt yet have all channels over WiFi yet, so for now we are continuing in limbo until our TV breaks or freely come out with a good enough solution to make it worth the investment. Im sure that time will come, its just more waiting.

[@palcock93]

Not sure why they made this to appeal for people without aerials as most people have them.

[@alunstevenfennell1042]

This is another attempt similar to the failed ITV Digital of the early 2000s, unfortunately this time around it the broadcasters trying to replace a UK industry standard of providing Freesat and Freeview services out of the box when you purchase a new Tv or set-top box, when tv broadcasters get involved providing a service, this time over broadband, you know they are going to upsell other channels, other providers and streaming services….. Freely will also be linked to no doubt to the TV licence as the BBC are also involved …. This is just another waste of money as linear Tv is on the decline and by 2030 nobody will be watch live Tv other than sports and news channels.

[@Paul2377]

It just sounds pointless.

[@philbo1]

Any talk about a Freely app for streaming devices like Apple TV?

[@dgattenb]

on freesat , i can see al the regions anyway ... and dave is only on an arial

[@PaulJohnson-bo5pk]

Yes offer a freely app tor apple tv

[@annerobbins3897]

So you need a TV with freely on?

[@keithwoodhouse4682]

Hi do you know will freely Cary 4k uhd content

[@harryelliott4310]

Tv 📺

[@steveroberts9453]

Great news for Aerial installers though.

[@gordon3178]

I heard of freely is from this channel

[@rogerdarthwell5393]

Awesome video but is it just me.....or did I see an AMTV News logo on the bottom left corner of the thumbnail?

[@platform14]

Abhorrent idea. Internet tv runs 30-60 seconds behind, requires additional device (router), additional subscription (Internet) and can't be recorded to fast forward adverts. This is the least consumer friendly initiative of quite some time.

[@Nostalgic80s-nd3qb]

This problem needs to be fixed otherwise Freely probably won’t get any high viewing figures.😟😟

[@paulsivyer3889]

Going on about channel numbers is absolutely pointless - have you stayed in a hotel recently? The TV channels are always different to my Freest. I can cope with that!

[@fredscratchet1355]

How can it be free? You've got to buy a new telly😂

[@Hello-ie1pm]

Short answer: yes.

[@DavidWeddell]

And of course they a leaving pensioners behind as some won’t understand how it works like my elderly parents and again it’s not really free see what Starmer says

[@pdunderhill]

Hmm, Hisense and Bush hardly the first names I'd consider when it comes to quality. Whats with the hair btw Adam?

[@petefarr8718]

No LG or Samsung!?

[@robhingston]

with freely you can have up to a 30 sec delay on everything, no good for sport,

[@paulkelly1726]

What about Samsung tv

[@Sheffield_Steve]

Could believe it when I read the title of this one!! I immediately thought what? Already?! That's not good, but I'll have to watch this first but did Auntie Beeb think they were going to beat the already established Sky Glass? Hasn't British TV been here before? Does feel like a bit of Dejavu IRO BSB & On/itv Digital!! Still Freely has me going back to my first suspicions about the likes of the Beeb wanting to run with this and replace Freeview and that is to put it all services on Freely ready for the possibility of the end of the licence fee to be replaced by a shiny new Broadband tax??!! 🤔 Freely doesn't really concern me as with all broadcast as live TV and the Beeb, coz I'm a proud "No Licence Required" viewer watching only on-demand non-live TV via ITVX, Channel 4 & 5 as well as on demand services via Freeview Play app on Google TV inc. STV Player, if needs be and manage perfectly fine! Can even catch-up with my local ITV Yorkshire news on ITVX.

[@daveac]

On the speed of your internet service point - I saw on screen it recommended 10Mbps speed - but homes will be still using their internet for all the other services - and maybe in multiple rooms too - so really that means 'you will need an additional 10Mbps' on top of your current usage. Add in more and more AI content by 2030 and I'm guessing family needs will be at least 5 fold by then.

[@nevercolo8661]

TV is kinda useless these days, unless you have subscribed to Virgin or Sky, your likely gonna miss out on everything. Freely itself seems dead on arrival.

[@jbullen82]

Virgin and Sky are dead too, I think. I used to have them about 10 years ago when they were relevant (and a rip-off). Occassionally, when I feel like getting some Sky channels for a month or 2, I will get NowTV but there is barely anything decent on Sky now. Sky Movies is awful now. Freesat has most of the channels on Sky for free. Lineal TV in general is really naff these days. I probably only have 4 or 5 shows that I look forward in a whole year now.

[@Connie_TinuityError]

of course it is, there is no way it can be successful in its current form

[@GeoNeilUK]

Exactly, nobody made us buy entrely new TVs for satellite, cable or Freeview, we got a receiver for that stuff that connected to our existing TVs. If they don't do that with Freely, it will die. Even Sky relented and launched tream to go alongside Glass.

[@123roger4321]

I use my bush freely tv in the bedroom I v got no Ariel there works well also needs more channels to jump on board like uk tv which will rebrand as u on the 16 7 24

[@123roger4321]

I v got the bush freely tv you only get channel s bbc itv channel 4 channel 5 ext you don’t get uk tv channels as yet but there is an Ariel on the tv

[@GeoNeilUK]

My other question for these new Freely TVs is this, will they have SCART or even HDMI sockets? The plan for these new TVs could be that they are only capable of viewing Freely content and that if you want to use things like competing services, games consoles or connect PCs to them, you'll need a monitor, with no standalone Freely box to connect to that monitor. I doubt that these Freely TVs would even be able to view analogue PAL over RF. I genuinely hope it doesn't come to this, but I won't trust Freely until we get a set top box and an app.

[@davidlevy7068]

Well you can check with your chosen retailers website that will list the Freely TV specifications.

[@mattsmith8124]

Are there still TV's being made with scart connections?

[@DavidMander-rs4uk]

Why would you want to watch via a scart or RF in 2024? 🤔

[@Beansontoast93911]

@@mattsmith8124 this guy, when he responds to somebody’s comments, he copies and paste your previous comment. that is how out of touch this guy is

[@Beansontoast93911]

They haven’t made TVs with scart leads in them for years. Unless if you pacifically go out for a TV with that and then you’re getting ripped off just for that privilege. I suppose, when you go buy a computer you ask if it still has a floppy disc drive in it. Stop thinking before you type because I just found this message after you start chatting a load of garbage from a previous comment. The next thing you will ask will be does my electric car can I still use petrol in it

[@winstonchurchill6506]

Who

[@nigelarcher9286]

Is the TV's with Freely, available here, are they NextGen TV (ATSC 3.0) compliant?

[@lucymorrison]

Yank detected. Nowhere except Murrica uses ATSC

[@oobenoob]

Jedward.

[@abbiesmall4953]

uh oh😱

[@tufftavv-c1d]

You need 250 pounds which is unfair they should put on has an app on devices so it's a con.

[@lewiskelly14]

You're blabbing too much

[@robertgreen8000]

Why on earth is a free to air UK company using hisense TVs a major Chinese government made TV who thought this one up

[@robertlong2531]

@robertlong2531 I'm a grumpy obstinate OAP and my dumb tv is still OK, so I'm using it with Freesat for live tv and Chromecast for on line streaming. It seems to me Freely is just rebranded Freeview play. @ 11.00: 'freely in addition to Freeview play, offers internet HD live stream video'. It's not a big limitation I suppose, but can't Freeview play select internet HD live streaming when available?

[@TheHoliday2012]

😂😂😂 stop putting ur fingers in the electric sockets 😂😂😂😂

[@AdamMartyn]

😂😂😂😂😂