IS FULL FRAME BETTER THAN CROP SENSOR? The truth revealed...

[@Photography-Explained]

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[@kenclements3001]

I bought a Nikon D7500 crop sensor camera this year and the low light performance is outstanding along with the quality of the photos that it takes. The bonus is the fact that many people are selling off their lenses to buy the more expensive ones for their full frame cameras and I can pick up really good used lenses for a reasonable price. As I will never be a professional, a crop sensor camera with the latest technology is perfect for someone like me.

[@Photography-Explained]

Sound like you've got it nailed!

[@NiSE_Rafter]

It's likely also influenced by the industry switch to mirrorless. Nikon is basically done with DSLR and going all in on mirrorless so anybody shopping for a new Nikon will likely go mirrorless with Z mount lenses. Sure FTZ exists but most will lean towards native lenses in the long run. The apsc market still seems huge, but it's all shifted to mirrorless now since that's where the newest tech and features are being developed. The D7500 definitely isn't in that category though. Great camera but missing a lot of features the current lineups have (such as pdaf and ibis). I agree with the sensor sentiment though, I never had any issues with low light on my D5600 and that included walking around at 2am taking photos around the city. The size and weight savings were worth it. In fact, I ended up doubling down and selling it last month to go even smaller with micro four thirds lol.

[@koblih69]

I use the pro series M4/3, but many years ago I finally understood one fundamental thing. 90% of the best photographs don't depend on HW at all, but on good composition, capturing the right moment and also luck. I've seen a lot of great photos taken with second hand digital cameras with resolutions as low as 5Mpix. Since then I don't deal with changing equipment, but I'm learning to take great photos. Even with a mobile phone...

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep exactly. Phones can't optically zoom enough for things like wildlife but other than that a pro with a phone would beat a beginner with pro gear.

[@shred3005]

Spot on. I’ve been a photographer for 40 yrs and when digital came along with my first DSLR in 2004 I endlessly chased every technical and sensor upgrade as they were released. But it didn’t make me a better photographer. In fact I started relying on the technology too much and thinking less about seeing the scene and getting good composition. It didn’t mean my photos sucked - just I was less involved leaving it to the technology. Now I’m enjoying using some older (and smaller) cameras with just one or two primes that I can carry everywhere and I’m enjoying photography more again. I even got one of the new Pentax 17 half frame film cameras - so light and very few decisions to be made with controls and a half frame vertical format is totally refreshing. It’s fun and the film images are good. Does the IQ compete with my 36mp full frame? No but I’m enjoying the experience more than I have in years and taking it places

[@zathraspersonal]

You are falling into the old familiar trap of suggesting that "APS-C/MFT is for hobbyists and that full frame is for pros. This is a generalisation which serves any inexperienced photographer very poorly. I use the APS-C Fuji system for wedding (as a professional) and street photography as well as fine art landscape and architecture photography. Many other pros do as well. Whilst I might miss that little bit of extra low light performance, I have never had a client who has criticised my images for having a bit of noise and advised me to get a full frame system. Most people, unless they are compulsive pixel-peepers, could not tell the difference between an image shot on a modern ff or aps-c sensor. The massive advantage for me is the small size and portability of fuji system cameras an lenses.

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for the feedback. Took a look at your long exposure architecture photography and it's stunning. Congrats!

[@zathraspersonal]

@@Photography-Explained Many thanks! All done using Fuji X system :)

[@allenschneider1847]

So I'm an amateur photographer, for all around photography (landscape, wild life, street & travel, family events, grandchildren sports) would you recommend the XT5, XH2, or XH2s? I'm leaning towards XT5. Have you had any autofocus issues with your Fugi?

[@zathraspersonal]

@@allenschneider1847 The XH2 and XH2S are designed as hybrid cameras - attractive if you make a lot of video as well as stills. XT5 is more orientated towards photographers in terms of its controls and rear screen. It has the same 40mp sensor as the XH2 and the same processing capabilities. I think the evf is has slightly lower resolution than the XH's. OThe XT5 is no slouch when it comes to video and costs less than the XH's. There are no autofocus issues with Fuji as far as I am aware. I have an XT5 and love it.

[@mignav464]

And you're making the same old assumption that the word "professional" means you are a better photographer or know more than an "amateur". I have been both. Using both full frame and crop. It doesn't have anything to do with your photos, other than the fact that you have/want to make money doing photography. Fuji works for you? Congrats, keep using it. My setup requires light strong wide angle lenses, and Fujis f1.4 are just as heavy as some of its full frame peers (so those at equivalent f2.0 aperture), so no, thank you. It's a choice, nothing more or less. Full frame has UNDENIABLE technical advantages over crop, there's no arguing about that, as you will agree I am sure.

[@danielx555]

I'm a hobbyist photographer and I had an old DSLR crop sensor Canon. I noticed this year that I'm slowing down because it was old, and I looked at my different options. I eventually decided to buy the Canon r100 and to stay with a crop sensor instead of going full frame. The r100 is so small that I can travel with it effortlessly. Someday I will get a full frame camera just for the experience but I haven't really run into any disqualifying problems with crop sensors. (I'm also really amazed at the ISO range of the r100, considering I spent $237 on it.) Potentially, I might just jump from a crop sensor to medium format at some point.

[@the_rat_run]

I moved from FF to APS-C cameras a few years ago. As a hobby photographer of 50 or so years, I started on FF film cameras, which are coming back into fashion with youngsters... I liked my FF digital camera (Old Canon with CCD sensor) but it wasn't that good in low light.... I could take equally as crap photos on that as I can on my modern Sony cameras, but at least nowadays it is just age exhausting me, not the weight of my camera bag! Some folk get a bit tribal over make & format, which makes me chuckle... I just enjoy the hobby. Great video, have a new subscriber.

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for the comment and subscribe. Really appreciate it. It’s been crazy reading the comments and seeing how vicious people are with brand vs brand and full frame vs crop. I run a couple of businesses and so can pretty much pick up whatever photography gear I fancy without worrying about getting it right as photography is my only hobby. I can’t imagine the stress people must be feeling about their purchases to be so vile to other people that they’re right and everyone else is wrong.

[@johnbecich9540]

I'm a 71 y.o. engineer who prizes function over form. I have been a bicycle enthusiast since age 10 and a camera buff since I earned my first paycheck (as a graduate engineer employed in corporate America) in the 1970s. So I've been "getting it done" without ever owning a Campagnolo derailleur or a Nikon camera, so to speak. These days I ride a bike frequently, which has panniers loaded with camera, three lenses, two or three tripods... etc... and you betcha, I favor the miniaturization afforded by the APS-C format. I also get far more bang for my buck, with mirrorless APS-C, than full frame. I can have my cake and eat it too, so to speak, when attempting portraiture... by virtue of "focal length reducers" aka "speedboostes" ... branded as Viltrox and Zhongyui. I haven't "done the math yet" but it seems that high quality optics can restore that DOF advantage enjoyed by a full frame camera and an 85mm lens, while I use my Sony a6000-series camera.

[@Photography-Explained]

How come you travel with multiple tripods?

[@johnbecich9540]

@@Photography-Explained for camera + each remote speedlight

[@Photography-Explained]

Ah, makes total sense!

[@chrishowell5718]

It's interesting that no one referred to 35mm as 'full frame' in the days of film cameras, when every camera club had at least one bore who looked down on everyone else because he he a Hasselblad or a Mamiya medium format camera, and everyone knows real photographers shot roll film and 35mm was for snaps and amateurs. 35mm became the standard for film photography not because it was some platonic ideal size, but because it allowed for reasonably convenient and portable movie cameras, which in turn meant that 35mm film was produced in vast lengths that could be conveniently packaged in lightproof cannisters for easy loading into stills cameras, which led to the development of the SLR as the ultimate convenient, portable interchangeable-lens camera by the late 80s (just before motor drives, vertical battery grips, and auto focus turned the likes of Canon's EOS series into monsters that challenged 5x4" plate cameras for bulk). These days, 'Full frame' is a marketing phrase: if 35mm is full frame, what does that make medium format, which is even fuller? There are trade-offs: smaller sensors mean smaller lenses for the equivalent field of view and light transmission, while larger sensors make it easier to achieve a shallow depth of field, should you want to do so. Larger sensors also have better high ISO performance, but that's only really relevant at about ISO 12800 (note to the young: in the days of film cameras, ISO 800 was considered pretty fast, and ISO 1200 was specialist fast film and you accepted the visible grain as an artist choice or compromise). Frankly, anyone getting into digital photography as a beginner now who allows themselves to be sold a 35mm sensor camera is either being oversold or wants a status symbol. Get a crop sensor camera (perhaps second hand), find out how and what you like to shoot, and only upgrade to a larger sensor if you really need it because your old gear is limiting in some way. Generally, if you have a half-decent camera (and pretty much all crop sensor cameras that have sold in decent numbers over the last 10-15 years are decent cameras), probably the best way to get better photos with £2500 is to do a course or go somewhere new and inspiring, rather than buying a new and expensive camera and starting again with a new instruction manual. Unless you really need low light performance, you'll probably appreciate smaller gear more than the ability to push up to ISO 25600. That and greater shallow depth of field are limits of smaller sensors dictated by physics, though in fact if you can't achieve pleasing bokeh with even a m43 camera and a F1.7 lens, you probably aren't going to get your money's worth out of a Sony a7 either.

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for the comment.

[@scrptwic]

I totally agree I have 4 APS-C cameras 2 are 6 megapixel DSLR CCD cameras from 2005& 2006. 2 cameras 25 megapixel CMOS sensor cameras. The newer cameras have more features and require less editing, higher ISO , faster autofocus. Do they take better pictures not particularly but I do like the better build quality.

[@SnowAngelfish]

I went through this whole investigation years ago and I believe my assessment still stands. Crop sensor cameras are basically as good at everything except portrait photography and its not necessarily the fault of the sensor but the availability of lenses that can get full frame results. There are some lenses for crop sensors that get very close to full frame results but due to the engineering challenges required due to less light capture on a crop sensor and more glass needed they are very expensive and so you might as well have just bought a full frame. I think they have an edge in astrophotography also.

[@mistergiovanni7183]

I am also an amateur and I use different systems, from full frame, M43 and even smaller sensors. When a photo is good, it is good regardless of the camera used. Weight and volume are very important factors when deciding what, when and how to photograph. And another fundamental thing, the optics, the sensor is not as important as good optics. And prime lenses are still superior to zooms, they are lighter and much cheaper.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep, I totally agree! The photograph itself is the most important thing.

[@mikariekki5708]

My D5100 16mp sensor gives about the same picture as a 33mp D810, when both need to be cropped for distant subjects like birds, but on a 150-600mm lens when taking aviation pics, the wide end is more useful on a full frame camera. So it depends on your lens, distance to subject/size and sensor pixel density, which is better.

[@brugj03]

Always a hot topic, but in reality it doesn`t really matter. For beginners it`s irrelevant, once you find your thing in photography you can choose what suits you the best. And it doesn`t have to be fullframe. For example wildlife can benefit from the smaller cropped in sensor to give your lens more reach. Fullframe will always be better in gathering light and usually has the better fast prime lenses. If you want shallow depth of field, fullframe will do best. But APS-C also has some.

[@Photography-Explained]

That makes sense. Thanks for the comment.

[@rwmcgeesr]

You left out purchasing a used full frame vs. a brand new camera and lens and saving a bunch of money. I look for bargains in used equipment and have not been disappointed.

[@Photography-Explained]

I bought all my Fuji gear new but my Sony gear is all second hand.

[@wullieg7269]

I got F4 £150 with 35to80 D+nikon D700 cheaper than I could imagine

[@rsat9526]

On the DOF, you are right but I might add that not everybody needs that super blurry bokeh. Most of the times we need some context of where the subject is to tell better story. FF DOF also extremely shallow at F1.2 or below to the point that subject face or head are not even in 100% focus. and I personally find that weird and hard to work with. However, that is a territory APSC will never reach despite personal preference. An APSC great lenses like Viltrox Pro series 75mm F1.2 will do more than enough to blur the background and I doubt anyone can really tell a difference vs FF.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep, 100% agree. I’ve taken literally a couple of landscape photos that have benefited from any depth of field (flowers in foreground). Thanks for the comment!

[@m3photo726]

With a Sony A7CR you have both worlds in a small camera body: a 60Mp full frame and a 26Mp APS-C 😀

[@Photography-Explained]

I was really tempted by the A7RC but it isn’t much lighter than the A7R4 and so I ended up with that. Sony are putting out some awesome bodies.

[@m3photo726]

@@Photography-Explained I didn’t choose it over the A7RV for the weight but the smaller size. It fits in my jacket pocket 😀

[@Photography-Explained]

Makes sense!

[@brugj03]

@@Photography-Explained I`ve had the a7R4 but couldn`t live with the colors, it`s autofocus is also outdated. I had the A7CR for a while but found it harsh and digital in it`s rendering. I have the A7CII now and the A1, they look very much alike. The A1 is faster and with better video, the A7CII is lighter with better autofocus. For the money i think the A7CII is a steal.

[@WizzardBox]

The lenses make a big differnce in size and in weight. APSC: Sigma 18-50 2.8 vs. FF Sigma 28-70 2.8. : 290g vs 470g. And it is double the size on FF

[@bamsemh1]

Depends on the print, and the heavy weights you want to be carrying on the 10km hikes. 8 out 10 photographers crop their fullframe shots to match the crop cameras anyway. So their MP goes from 40+ to actual 20'ish.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep! That’s exactly what I do. I’ve many landscape shots that get cropped to portrait when I get back on the computer because I didn’t do a good job with my composition in the field. That drops them from 60mp to around 15-20mp usually. Thanks for the comment mate.

[@clancydubh]

Finally, someone with expertise making a common sense comparison that an amateur like me can understand and use in a real world situation. Thank you.

[@Photography-Explained]

Hey Clancy. Glad you enjoyed the video :D. Thanks for the kind words.

[@malcolmwright6948]

A really balanced video, thank you.

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for the kind words Malcolm.

[@Windsurfingaddict]

Glad I came across yourself, new subscriber 🥳 so ever since I lost my old Pentax 35mm film camera in a divorce I’ve been using many lations of Smart phones ( iPhone ) yes most of time in Auto. The most important part is the sensor sizes are way smaller than even micro 4/3 or 1 inch sensors but still manage though clever technology to capture some nice images, APC crop sensor is huge compared to my smart phones sensor lol as as you pointed out I should hopefully be blown away with the better image quality when cropping in for example as my phone gets very noisy. Even the Panasonic 4/3 Om-1 and mark two looks fantastic. Yes I’ve been watching lots and lots of camera reviews to decide on what to buy and price is importance so crop sensors looking like the best deal for one’s pocket, Very much enjoyed your video and look forward to watching many more 🥳🥳🥳

[@kobelrudolf1794]

With an Olympus camera with Pro lenses you can take better photos than with a full-format camera with standard lenses. Then, as already mentioned, the price and weight are an advantage.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep that makes total sense.

[@allenschneider1847]

So for general, all around photography, would you prefer an OM1 over an XT5?

[@Photography-Explained]

I think it depends on the lenses. Fuji don't really make a bad lens and the X-T5 body is smaller than the OM1. Either would be fantastic.

[@BrianHallmond]

Both have their advantages. Full frame allows more light Lower megapixels allows more light. Full allows wider shots. Crop can allow better zoom

[@wanneske1969]

I started out with the Canon 500D (Rebel) with a 1.6 x crop in 2008. I quickly got fed up with it, mainly because of the poor image quality above iso 800. Switched to the 5D and 1D series and never went back to crop. The 1D was 1.3x crop which was something inbetween. Now I have an R6 and it's iso performance is amazing.

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for sharing your camera history. It's always interesting to see why people make changes.

[@rigobertomorales6092]

You might be right, but full frame pictures are more beautiful, no matter how you slice, pictures taking with full frame are better

[@Photography-Explained]

That seems to be the consensus in the comments. Thanks for watching.

[@kotzze]

for bokeh on aps-c camera we can use ttartisan 35 mm f/0.95 to get around 50 mm f.l. and f/1.6~

[@comeraczy2483]

Regardless of sensor size, all sensors collect the light delivered by the lens. If you ensure that both sensors are equipped with native lenses that have the same angle of view, and the same aperture diameter, you will observe that both sensors collect the same amount of light when shooting the same scene at the same shutter speed. You will also observe that the two images have the exact same depth of field (the depth of field has to do with aperture diameter, angle of view, and focus distance - nothing to do with sensor size).

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep that makes sense. Thanks for the comment.

[@ronald7482]

I switched from Nikon Z to fujifilm because the small camera and lenses and the quality of photos. Nowadays both are great. Fujifilm is very professional for portraits and wedding is my experience I use also a Leica Q2 and sometimes I don't see the difference between quality

[@Photography-Explained]

I'm very jealous of your Leica. Every now and again I take a look at the Q3 and very quickly realise that I have no actual need for it :).

[@petrpohnan875]

To me this is clearly case dependent evaluation. I've been using APS-C many long years. Then I did switch to FF because of better IQ and "proper" FL of lenses. Later I did add the medium format (Fuji GFX). Choosing the camera today I would opt for APS-C if I needed long reach for most of my shots. FF for general use and MF for the ultimate IQ.

[@StevenSiew2]

You can always buy a full frame camera and CROP in Photoshop. It will give you the same result as a 1.6 crop camera . Guaranty.

[@Photography-Explained]

That works most of the time. I crop almost all of my landscape photos.

[@raulal00]

Well, that's correct if your FF have almost x1.6 mpx count of your apsc, if not you are loosing detail in comparison. And also a FF lens that really can handle that 40mpx for real, what is mostly a lie out of the pro series

[@Philipp-pz6yh]

only if you have 1.6 times the mp

[@ceesnabuursfauna2115]

They both have there strengths, so it depends on your needs. I use the Canon R7 and the R6. For walk around, shooting wildlife the R7 together with the RF100-500 is my favorite, the 1.6 crop is a big advantage to the R6, also the internal stack function in the R7 is a nice feature. For BIF or If the reach is not needed I use the R6.

[@Photography-Explained]

That’s the perfect split between the two sensor sizes. Thanks for sharing.

[@elvinlawcc]

Modern F4 full frame lenses work great on APSC cameras. I used the Sony F4 20-70 G lens on my a6700 it works great! I have no problem shooting in low light situations with the modern F4 lens. The small and lightweight new F2.8 24mm G lens can produce amazing photos and videos on my a6700. I love this 24mm lens.

[@Photography-Explained]

That’s awesome. Sony did a good job sharing the mount.

[@AliKhan-1966]

At 2:11 time mark I noted an error

[@letni9506]

The only way I can tell is when I pixel peep You can see the cleaner background with full frame. But without pixel peeping I can't see a difference. Much like when I went from a 1080p TV to a 4k. Although I do sit quite far from my screen. Maybe it's apparent to the person doing the pp but to me it's really hard to see a difference if I view the photo at its intended size.

[@Photography-Explained]

That makes sense. I notice if I crop my landscape photos but that's about it.

[@Afriqueleblanq]

Many PRO shooters use M43 here in Africa. The special abilities of the Oly OM-1 II and the 20-100 and 150-400 PRO lenses are legendary, and that 400 becomes 1000mm equivalent optically, even 2000mm digitally (really lossless) and it makes a huge difference shooting wildlife. Lion don't brush; give them a wide berth.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep, I agree! In the field there are loads of gear photographers working with crop sensor systems.

Hi can You tell us what your is model of backpack You use? Looks very nice and slim?

[@Photography-Explained]

It's a Zulu 40 Rucksack by Gregory. Not a photography backpack but does have a front opening on it and so I put a camera cube in there and can access it quickly. I tried a bunch of photography bags and none of them were as good as a proper hiking backpack like the Gregory. Hope that helps.

[@h.o.j2375]

Owning both full frame and apsc from the same brand I can 100% guarantee FF is better. Capturing in low light, raising shadows or bringing back highlights the FF out performs apsc every single time.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yeah that’s my experience too comparing Fuji to Sony. Thanks for the comment.

[@williamgollatz1911]

Forgot two large points. Full frame are usually more ergonomic, and full frame cameras typically have better autofocusing, and other features rhan their aps-c counterparts. It why I went to full frame, no aps-c could match the full frames' autofocus, fps, and even video modes.

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for the comment. Pretty sure Sony's latest APSC cameras have much better autofocus vs my A7R4. Ergonomics is something that I probably underestimate as a landscape photographer as I'm not really hand holding the camera for long periods of time.

[@Narsuitus]

Is the Fuji GFX digital medium format better than full-frame and/or APS-C?

[@Photography-Explained]

I haven't personally used a GFX camera and so it's difficult for me to talk about it. For the landscape work I do in the mountains it probably would be "better" but also really heavy.

[@bamsemh1]

Not if you do astrophotography. There's no good medium format astro lenses, unless you use tracker.

[@induction7895]

For some contexts yes, for some no and for the rest doesn’t really matter.

[@DeepakGupta-hk9vn]

Thanks for this amaizng video for the people like me who are stuck to choose between APSC Canon R7 vs Full Frame R8 which come with similar price. However, R8 got to be compromised on few features for the price it is coming with. I am a beginner who like both portrait as well as bird photography. While R8 could be best for the former one and R7 for the later. Could you please suggest me which one will be the best considering both the photography and features the two camera offer? And you got ome more subscriber!!

[@Photography-Explained]

Hey Deepak. I'm not a cannon user so I might not be the best person to ask. R7 has a crop/high res sensor which is going to be much better for birding as it'll have more reach and more megapixels to crop. R7 also has IBIS which is important if you're going to be hand holding your shots for both birding and portraits. The R8 has the bigger sensor which will give better low light but that's countered by the IBIS. R8 has better auto focus which is obviously important for the birding. I think your choice comes more down to lenses. Canon doesn't have many APSC lenses and so you miss out on the benefits of smaller, lighter, cheaper lenses there. I'd try and make the choice of what is more important to you, birding or portraits. BUT both cameras will be perfectly suitable for a beginner. Heck, if I was you I'd get something second hand instead. For the same money you'll get something much higher end.

[@DeepakGupta-hk9vn]

@@Photography-Explained Thanks a lot for such a detailed explanation! I have two questions. 1. Will FF lenses work better on APSC camera as well? 2. Is it possible to get good bokeh with APSC camera for portrait photography?

[@Photography-Explained]

1. They may "work better" as you'll be using the center of the image circle and so will be less effected by soft corners at open apertures. But you're also buying and carrying around heavier lenses that you're not really getting the full potential from. 2. Absolutely. I had a 50mm f1.4 crop Fuji lens and that was more than enough to get solid bokeh. In the latest version of light room you can add more artificial bokeh anyway. Don't over think it. Get whatever you think is best and get out and start shooting. Actually taking the photos is the hardest bit, not having the perfect gear.

[@ElectronInc]

Came from Nikon APS-C to Olympus MFT 4 years ago for the exact facts you shared: small, light, and having my hands on the camera, after almost 2 years of not taking photos because I couldn't be asked to bring my camera and lenses (including a sigma 18-35 f1.8) with me. Since then I've got 2 MFT cameras, one became my everyday-carry-with-me, and haven't been happier. Couldn't care more about the never ending and boring FF, 1", MFT, APS-C war than the crash of a bug on a window.

[@Photography-Explained]

Makes total sense. I know a bunch of landscape photographers that moved to M43’s and now shoot way more and so get better photos regardless of the actual technology.

[@Dylon1981]

full frame sensor is just based on the size of films. it is never a sensor size standard. it is slightly better in low light and dynamic range but not that much. I have been photographing since I was 8 (that was in 1988). I have had countless of cameras and you know what? technology have come along way that the difference between the 2 is negligible. Ever wonder why fujifilm skipped the full frame format and went directly from APSC to medium format/large format? I have a fuji xt5 and a sony A7IV but i always use my fuji most of the time.

[@Photography-Explained]

The standard film format size isn't a standard size? This was before my time but I assume that they used the same standard size for digital so there was compatibility with lenses etc. Fujifilm are on record saying they "skipped" FF because they couldn't compete as a niche brand in the same space as the big boys. It was a business decision, not a performance decision.

[@gerhardbotha7336]

All I know is technology impacts greatly. My R7 shows less noise than my 1D3 for instance. I go CF because I want the reach. With my EF 100-400ii and 1.4x iii if I crop to 20mpx I get the reach of 1100mm! At F8! And the IQ is very good. So I am in no hurry for a FF body for the occasional wide shot I might want. I got a Metabones 0.71x for that in the mean time and it is awesome

[@Photography-Explained]

Are you shooting birds?

[@mikefoster6018]

Yeah, good vid. Basically crop sensor means everything can be smaller but you collect fewer light photons, which is the big factor behind fuzzier ISO and worse dynamic range. You can't cheat physics, any more than astronomers can disregard their huge telescopes. I love my crop sensor Fuji X-T5 as it's smaller/lighter than the full frame competition, plus I love the ergonomics. As I'm doing street photos I'm usually using something like f4 aperture (to capture background detail) and a full frame would need to be at f6 to achieve the same depth of field that I need. So I don't especially want to carry a full frame camera with all that weight when I'd be shrinking its aperture so much anyway. Also I feel more comfy carrying a £2800 camera/lenses combo on the street than I would a £5000 full frame combo.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep that’s why I picked up the X-T5 too. Lighter, shooting at f6+ most of the time and I really enjoyed the dials on top as most of the time the camera is on a tripod for my landscape work and so I’m looking down on it. Awesome camera.

[@mikefoster6018]

@@Photography-Explained For street, I get away with using Auto ISO settings during daylight but it's nice to go full manual exposure controls when it gets darker, to squeeze out the best exposure for the chosen subject. The top buttons and front/back control dials make it so easy. (During the day I divert my exposure compensation to the front control dial just to instruct the Auto ISO on the exposure level I'm looking for, which I love because if I depress that dial it effectively locks/unlocks it for me).

[@GG-zv9ku]

I still prefer full frame.

[@Stan_the_Belgian]

Today with the canon r8 for cheap, with a 50mm 1.8, you dont have a reason to buy overpriced fuji anymore....I actually sold my fuji for that reason

[@Photography-Explained]

For portraits? Yep that makes sense.

[@Ben_Stewart]

Some of the best photographs I have made, even deep astro shots have been APS-C.

[@Photography-Explained]

I was just listening to a podcast on astro photography and the guy was saying his sensor is M4/3 sized as he can cool it easier. Interesting stuff! Thanks for the comment.

[@Ben_Stewart]

@@Photography-Explained Just to add, google the ASI1600 . This a Panasonic M4/3 sensor that amateur astronomers have used for over a decade.

[@blisteringbooks2428]

R7 crop sensor £1500, R8 full frame £1000. Also crop isn't a good idea for travel unless you have an extra wide lens and landscapes could be a problem

[@Photography-Explained]

Slightly more too it than that with the R7 having IBIS and much higher resolution. For wildlife it might be the correct option. Thanks for the comment.

[@blisteringbooks2428]

@@Photography-Explained As a retired professional now doing a lot of wildlife I haven't as yet been tempted by the R7 though I almost bought a 90D. Instead I can use crop mode, my 5Dsr does around 20mp in crop, about the same as my 7Dii, but I consider the sensor better. I had noticed that crop sensor bodies may produce a softer image as the outperform the lens. Cheers.

[@wullieg7269]

So lenses give same dof but aperture smaller in crop. 28mm on d3500 not f2.8 anymore...

[@Photography-Explained]

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand your comment. Thanks for taking the time to comment though.

[@smbutte]

Check, understood

[@bryanevans5398]

And yet you fell into the trap of saying "upgrade to full frame" when in reality it's just another tool that provides some benefits while losing others 😉...then again, camera manufacturers want you to believe it's an upgrade.

[@Photography-Explained]

Hey Bryan, I have both a Fuji and Sony system. For me, the RAW files from the Sony are an upgrade.

[@bryanevans5398]

@@Photography-Explained fair comment. However how many mp is that Sony. You can get a Fuji x-h2 that has 40 mp and 13 stops dynamic range now, I would be curious to see how the Sony file and that file would be side by side.. wasn't a slam btw, just that marketing geniuses live to call things upgrades lol

[@carlmcneill1139]

Fujii only makes crop sensor and medium format cameras. The crop sensor line is their main line. The majority of their lenses are going to be good. Nikon and Canon on the other hand do not make very good crop sensor lenses. Those lenses are for the beginners and the poor people. Those are for people who only get the camera out every one in a while or maybe a few people who really want to get into photography who can't afford it. Sony might make some good crop lenses but I never hear about them. There's not much profit in budget friendly gear. A lot of Canon apsc lenses are junk. Most are not that sharp. They don't render color that well. I'm sure Fujii has their share of bad lenses as well but they're not competing with a line of full frame gear like everyone else. And not that many Fujii showers are going to have a medium format camera. Prime lenses are the way to go to get performance on a budget. Especially if you don't mind doing the zooming in and out with your feet. If you do street photography you only need maybe one or two lenses. And that's probably the same for landscape. Definitely for milky way photos. You can get the Rokinon 14mm. But it's not always about the sensor size. There's features that are only found on full frame bodies that apsc bodies don't have because they only put those in the pro or semi pro bodies. Those things can improve your work flow. You don't get function buttons on most crop bodies that you can program to do aortic things so you don't have to dive into the menu.

[@Photography-Explained]

Fuji don’t really make bad lenses. The handful that aren’t great are cheaper primes. The problem with zooming with your feet is that you might walk off the mountain to get the shot. Everything else you said makes sense though. Thanks for sharing your insights.

[@carlmcneill1139]

@Photography-Explained that's my point about Fujii. So if you go with Fujii you will pretty much be buying apsc lenses. That's not the case with Sony, Canon and Nikon. And yes that's true about prime lenses. You may be limited to where you can use them. Third party lenses are your best bet for zoom lenses.

[@CoreGamingProject]

Why buy a MFT or an APC today, when you can get an Iphone 15 or 16 Pro... Really Small Size, always in your pocket, and image quality barrely equal.

[@RichardBragg]

Surely you only get the crop factor if you put full-frame lenses on a cropped sensor camera? A 17-85 lens designed for a cropped sensor camera is still 17-85 on that cropped sensor.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep, makes sense.

[@johnbanks9392]

Nope, a 17-85 is a 17-85 regardless of what sensor you put behind it.

[@vladdcraciun]

Very useful video. Thank you 🙏🏻

[@Photography-Explained]

Glad you enjoyed the video Vladd. Thanks for commenting.

[@mahorofancy]

If you need to fix something, can you just use one size screwdriver? Different CMOS are really just different size tools. I use NIKON Z and M4/3 at the same time, and take them out on different occasions. In general, it is more advantageous to use a larger CMOS camera, just like the Hasselblad has better image quality than the FF, but when I am traveling and hiking, it has become a question of whether to take it or not.

[@Photography-Explained]

I literally hold up both my crop and full frame cameras in the intro.

[@mahorofancy]

@@Photography-Explained yes, it's really a good combination.

[@scrptwic]

I have 4 APSC DSLR cameras if I want full frame camera I use my Pentax Spotamatic SP2 film camera I paid little money for it may be old but is a lot cheaper than a new full frame camera

[@Photography-Explained]

Nice one, thanks for sharing.

[@jordanjoestar8839]

Olympus OM1 and Fuji X100VI are evil laughing rightnow. People that cant even get the besy out of a cellphone straight up disregard how good modern camera sensors are, especially the modern ones.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep 100%. I have loads of great images from my Fuji gear.

[@jdavidlock2219]

I disagree that a crop sensor lens has a longer reach and is therefore better than full frame. if look at the diagram shown the centre of the full frame image is the same size of the crop centre image and so a crop from a full frame image to apsc gives you the same reach. Having said that I use a Fuji system which is excellent for my needs and wouldn't want the cost and weight of a full frame camera

[@Photography-Explained]

You are correct. The advantage in real terms is that you are using a smaller image circle on crop cameras and so for the same reach as cropping into full frame you end up with much lighter gear.

[@olivierdujardin8426]

It's funny how one KZbinr starts on a topic and everyone else follows.

[@Photography-Explained]

I'm not sure the full-frame vs crop debate started on KZbin.

[@unperfectcooking]

Apsc is best value and size for money 🙂

[@Photography-Explained]

No doubt! Thanks for watching.

[@brugj03]

Depends, if you skip the step to fullframe you won`t be loosing money. Or you could stick to APS-C and keep it.

[@unperfectcooking]

​@@brugj03Apsc isn't losing money. Just I see it as more travel/hobby/part time work with it. Of course professionals would go straight to ff

[@unperfectcooking]

​@@brugj03 I think if you do photography for living then it is very considerable to use FF. But if you are hobby photographer, then APSC is more than enough :)

[@brugj03]

@@unperfectcooking Maybe, i have fullframe and mid and i`m not a pro. I just have really high standards.

[@gapcreekonline948]

Great advice thank you 🐶

[@Photography-Explained]

Glad you enjoyed the video :). Thanks for commenting.

[@user-Thanakorn2514]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for the love.

[@johnanthonycolley3803]

And ( by comparison ) Medium Format fits in where 🤔

[@Photography-Explained]

Not sure. I only own APSC and FF and so as an amateur I can only comment on what I have in hand.

[@brugj03]

It fits in nowhere, it`s just an even bigger, better and more expensive option. It`s big and heavy, but if you don`t care about that it`s fantastic.

[@bondgabebond4907]

Or, is high pixel count sensor better than a very low pixel count sensor? How well does the image from a ZV-E1 compare to the A7R5? What about comparing the ZV-E1's 12mp image to the 26mp image from the Sony a6700. A simple test that requires few words just time to execute: Get a very detailed model, gender doesn't matter. Your child will do find. Take a headshot using the best lens for each camera. Then compare and you will get your answer. Now print it on an 11x14 piece of photo paper and compare? From the right distance looking at each picture, can you tell the difference. All can be done at home. I can tell you that a Sony A7R3's 42mp sensor is sensational. Those extra pixels over the 24mp sensor from the A6600 will show up and stun you, that is, if you are pixel peeping. I choose a person's face as it yields incredible detail from the finest hairs all over a person, the eyes, eyebrow/lashes and the skin itself will give you the answer. In landscape photography you have too many elements to deal with like haze, smoke, etc. Remember to take many photos as some will miss while others are spot on. And since we are not using film, there is no cost in taking as many pictures as you need and trashing all the ones that are no good.

[@Photography-Explained]

Editing my A7R4 files is much easier than the X-T5. I think it’s the dynamic range that makes the difference. I take them both out with me usually. Fuji with a long lens, Sony with a wide.

[@wullieg7269]

Nikon d700 winner!

[@Photography-Explained]

You won one?

[@be3ho7nm]

Crop sensor does not give extra bit of reach. With the same lens the image from a crop camera is just the same as the cropped center part of the image taken by a full frame camera. Take that image with a full frame camera and cut off the sides - it is not longer focal length.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yep, exactly.

[@pickledud7703]

Crop sensor is a bit of a misnomer, its a smaller sensor, not a crop. Croping reduces pixel count. There is actually a telephoto effect in APSC/MFT compared to the same focal length lens in 35mm.

[@pickledud7703]

You're actually incorrect about depth of field and your picture proved it. You moved the crop sensor further back to get the same field of view which caused greater depth of field for the crop sensor. A proper comparison is between a 25mm MFT, 35mm APSC and 50mm full frame. You'll find vield of view and bokeh is the same on all at the same f stop.

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for the comment mate.

[@pickledud7703]

@@Photography-Explained I feel like a dick for not being nicer now

[@Photography-Explained]

Hahaha, I run a sales training KZbin channel which is my real business. People have said much worse to me on there :).

[@DespotRus]

Well, a 25mm mft lens is still a 25mm lens, you will still have the same proportions and the other physical stuff, it just crops in the sensor and It cannot be compared to a 50mm ff lens, the filed of view is the same, but there are many differences

[@pickledud7703]

@@DespotRus its true that a 50mm MFT/APSC/FF all have the same distance from the lens optical centre to their sensors but this means different things to different formats. Thats why manufactures sometimes state their equivalent like I have above. We should probably stop calling them "crop" sensors as well since this is a misnomer. Nothing is being "cropped". The entire sensor is being used on each respective system with no loss of available pixels.

[@donchristie420]

Congrats on the nuptials

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks Don :D.

[@youfollow_]

Fuji all the way, i prefer 35mm film

[@Photography-Explained]

How come?

[@Photography-Explained]

How come?

[@youfollow_]

@@Photography-Explained it's the sweet spot, lenses are cheaper too , dont need to have full frame to produce professional work and low light is a myt. It's all about how you light your scene.

[@youfollow_]

@@rossb48 hmmmm I have zenit 11 with helios 44m-4 , I'm loving it because causes me to appreciate the time and mechanics to take proper photo than digital

[@ZheikoNileth]

While I agree with majority of the points made here. I am really sick and tired of the "best camera is the one you have" or "you can take good pictures with your phone" statements. Yes, you can take a good picture with your phone - in decent conditions. You will NOT take as good of a shot of dark-lit place with a phone as you could with full frame camera with proper lense. You will also often not even bother taking your phone out, because you know you will never capture the same thing as you could with a proper camera. So yea, sometimes, even with a good 1inch sensor phone camera, you will just decide not to bother, because you know the limitations of that device.

[@Photography-Explained]

I think the point I was trying to make was that most people take crap photos no matter what camera they have. The limit isn't how much light they can gather.

[@ZheikoNileth]

@@Photography-Explained oh lol, yea, that statement is true

[@robertleeimages]

1 Inch phone sensor would be bigger than canon apsc, my phones sensor is only 7mm x 6mm

[@iamtesting3824]

is that question like which is more poweful russian forces or ukrainian forces ?

[@Photography-Explained]

Not really sure I understand?

[@JohnKrill]

Calling any sensor cropped shows your ignorance and history of early Nikon and Cannon digital cameras.

[@Photography-Explained]

Sorry John, I think you have the wrong end of the stick here. I am ignorant to the early history of Nikon and Cannon digital cameras. I've only been shooting for 12-months. This channel and content is for new photographers like myself. I appreciate someone with your level of experience commenting though.

[@pawelthe1606]

The myth has been debunked long ago, so why bring it up again?

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for watching the video Pawel. Means a lot as I try and grow the channel.

[@olivierserve6372]

Could you stop calling APS-C or micro 4/3 "crop" sensors ? It is pure marketing speak to make them less appealing. They are just other formats, with their strengths and weaknesses. So called "full frame" is cropped compared to medium format; it should be called "small format".

[@Photography-Explained]

I'm just trying to use the language that everyone understands. Thanks for your comment.

[@JohnSobasky-g9f]

So you don’t want exceptional image quality while you’re on that amazing vacation?

[@Photography-Explained]

Haha depends what I’m taking pictures of I guess.

[@JohnSobasky-g9f]

@@Photography-Explained I feel like the a7iv and two lenses is pretty space efficient. Take a 24-70 and a 70-200 and combined with super 35 mode you have everything you need from wide to portraits to punched in 300mm for distant objects.

[@daveyboy6210]

It's OK they will be exceptional I'm sure😊 mine come out great too when I'm travelling,

[@Philipp-pz6yh]

there are better cameras than the A7IV....seems like you don't want exceptional image quality either

[@alanjcravophotography4149]

Who cares…is Just a tool… just go out and enjoy taking pictures

[@Photography-Explained]

Hi Alan, totally agree and that was the conclusion at the end of the video. Thanks for the comment.

[@alanjcravophotography4149]

@@Photography-Explained 100% agree with you. Great content

[@osowie9368]

Next blabla video no one needs... 😝

[@Photography-Explained]

Thanks for taking the time to comment on my video.

[@shmuelaryehkoltov241]

Can we please stop using the term "crop sensor". APS-C and MFT sensors is no more cropped of a full frame sensor, than a full frame sensor is of a Medium Format sensor.

[@Photography-Explained]

That's what the industry calls them. Full frame has been the industry standard forever and so I don't think it's unreasonable to call a cropped size to the industry standard "cropped".

[@shmuelaryehkoltov241]

@@Photography-Explained is it? I don't see any of the companies using that term about their APS-C or MFT cameras. Not Nikon, not Canon, not Sony, and not Panasonic. They use "full frame", "APS-C", and "MFT". "Crop sensor" is used to talk about APS-C and MFT sensors as something less than full frame. The only time it makes sense, is if one talks about using a lens for a larger format sensor on a smaller sensor. If you use a lens made for an APS-C sensor you're not cropping anything.

[@shmuelaryehkoltov241]

@@Photography-Explained and it's also completely incorrect to claim that "full frame has been the industry standard forever". The first digital cameras were APS-C sensors or smaller, except a few APS-H sensors, such as the first Canon 1D cameras.

[@Photography-Explained]

Yes, and what was the industry standard film size before the small period of digital before they moved to full frame? Yes, I used the term cropped in the context as "something less than full frame" in the video as it's simpler to communicate than to run through all the nuanced sizes of sensor. Yes, the "industry" use the term crop sensor. The industry isn't just the manufacturers. I think if you look at any photography outlet they're all in agreement of the term. Most photographers read blogs, magazines and watch more videos than they do press releases. Not sure why you have a bee in your bonnet over this. I use both crop and full frame systems. It wasn't a political statement lol. Thank you for the engagement.

[@shmuelaryehkoltov241]

@@Photography-Explained Nice outro there, let's attack the person instead of his arguments and surmise about his mental state. That's when you know that your arguments are sound.