Is Gay Conversion Therapy Legit or Fraud?

The Judiciary Committee passed the proposal, which means it is a step closer to being considered by the entire state Senate. An earlier version of the legislation has already passed the state Assembly.

[@Bodega_princess]

IT'S THE FACT HALF OF THEM STILL ACT AND LOOK LIKE THEY'RE IN THE CLOSET WHILE SAYING ALL THIS💀💀💀

[@lapepa1699]

I mean look at the outfits- 💀

[@lapepa1699]

@Francisco Hrn I dont believe in sins.

[@juniorqindes8335]

“Look like they’re in the closet” what do you mean?

[@lapepa1699]

@@juniorqindes8335 haha my man search it up

[@juniorqindes8335]

@@lapepa1699 I searched up “look like they’re in the closet” and got “a term used by homophobic people who think homosexuality changes anything but who that person is sexually attracted too.” Thanks. What do I have to wear btw? I’m gay, I didn’t realize I had to “look gay”

[@piarco]

Just wait. Most of these people will buckle under the lies that they live.

[@Michael_Livingstone]

Exactly!

[@marquamfurniture]

Repression won't make those natural urges go away.

[@kbo730]

Should be voluntary.

[@willomo]

You cannot convert your innate nature it is ridiculous, the only conversion needed are those who run these places and need to be converted to being kind and accepting of differences!!!!!

[@avielhaim1127]

There is no scientific proof is innate. It is just repeating over and over what you hear from others.No evidence it is innate.

[@carved6749]

This is a bigoted position that is stuck in SJW Rehortic about Gay being a born characteristic and no, Im not saying its a choice.

[@mr.dudbud4551]

​@@carved6749sjw? Bruh every person who has a little brain are able to know sexuality isnt a choice and this wont change because of bigot people like you

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

Maybe they were conditioned and breed to be gay

[@dallymoo7816]

A lot of people don't realize they are bi.. being bi, I can choose men or women never having being with women again is easy when I want to have another child!

[@dougn2350]

Tax the church

[@jenny2282]

Agree!

[@patricke825]

@@impattman2199 then at least tax the megachurches that make millions.

[@honggopurnomo6932]

How about mosque?

[@elliefuller3667]

@@patricke825 Start with the LDS church! They have over a billion in savings and still demand tithing from their poor members 😒 they don’t need more money!!

[@porch.honky.420]

@@honggopurnomo6932 start with Christian churches first since they're the ones trying to push their cultish ideologies in politics.

[@amelievanschaik9717]

The fact that you only have one life and some people still choose to spend their time on earth living a lie💀

[@JohnBaptist702]

How do you know that?

[@amelievanschaik9717]

@@JohnBaptist702 You either are born gay or you're not. Conversion therapy only helps people deny that part of themselves instead of "changing you" like some might claim. Also a lot of gay people struggle from internalised homophobia, and thats why you see that many gay conversion therapists turn out to be gay themselves :)

[@JohnBaptist702]

@@amelievanschaik9717 And yet there are some who were truly gay, lesbian, bisexual, and so on. Through the Christian message, they were truly changed from the inside out. How do YOU know what was going on in there minds and hearts? You would have to be omniscient, which I have to assume you’re not.

[@elliefuller3667]

@@JohnBaptist702 You can’t change your sexuality that easily. I got beat by my dad when I came out and whenever he thought I seemed to do a “gay thing” he would beat me. My mom was emotionally abusive and a master manipulator, I got confused and gaslighted from her about not being gay, and whenever she thought I didn’t listen to her about it, she grounded me and took my phone. I soon started to associate negative punishment with being gay, and started trying to change it. I didn’t want to get beaten on a weekly basis. I didn’t want to get grounded. And yet, even with all that, and the Christian doctrine they force fed me, I never changed. You cannot change your sexuality, period. It is impossible.

[@JohnBaptist702]

@@elliefuller3667 Allow me to say that I am sorry about your parents abusing you. What I am talking about the real person of Jesus Christ who saves and changes one from gay, bi, or even a promiscuous heterosexual into a new holy person.

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

*can't accept conversion therapy *all for hormone therapy though

[@monica9698]

*Something that doesn’t work whatsoever *Something that actually works

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

@@monica9698 *feasible lie *feasible lie

[@monica9698]

@@shelbyspeaks3287 Thank you I’m glad you agree that conversion therapy doesn’t work.

[@user-ui6ou2if2s]

You cannot oppress and "change" your sexuality. It's not something humans can control.. I personally don't believe the people who say they "changed" were actually truthful.. Either they're oppressing themselves on a daily basis in order to follow their religion, or they're oppressing themselves because they want to avoid being in the minority. I believe the survivor who spoke and said he "changed" is lying because he went through a traumatic event and almost died because of who he is.. "was". That caused him to rethink his life making the terrible choice of "changing" to avoid the possibility of ever going through tramautic events because of who he is/"was".

[@user-ui6ou2if2s]

@futo nara I wasn't being salty at all, if people believe conversion therapy works then that's fine by me. I don't care at all. I just stated my opinion that i personally don't believe it actually works. Wether *you* can accept that others have a different opinion than your own is *your* problem not mine. And I don't want to be rude but your comment is phrased in such a way that it's almost like it was written by a child. I'm assuming you're an adult, if so, then I'm disappointed an adult doesn't have the ability to understand that all people have different opinions and ends up reacting like a child. Otherwise if you're actually a child then i have nothing to say. Some children take longer to understand certain things than others so it's okay.

[@lukek7823]

@@user-ui6ou2if2s just because you stated your opinion doesn't mean it's correct. Gay therapy does work when done right. It's all in the mind.

[@user-ui6ou2if2s]

@@lukek7823 i never said my opinion was correct for everyone else. My opinion is my own and i believe it's correct. If you think that it's not correct that's your choice and way of thinking. We are different people who have different opinions. I originally commented what I thought on this comment section to see what other people have to say about it, but no one is civi. Everyone reacts and comments back so childish.

[@juniorqindes8335]

Proof we can’t?

[@RebellionWarrior]

@@lukek7823 Why is it wrong to be gay or lesbian? Do you hate gay people or are you personally a “repressed homosexual” yourself?

[@adibingchalamet914]

Some of the patient actually wanted to change tho. I just hope it goes well like s/he wanted to.

[@elliefuller3667]

You cannot change your sexuality. It’s like trying to change your eye color, you can never truly do it.

[@lost686girl]

they want to change because they feel so shameful about it. And there's nothing shameful about being gay

[@saidesimon3144]

You can change your sexuality

[@commandercorl1544]

That's not something you can do, though. It's the same as trying to be gay when you're straight, it simply doesn't work.

[@guardianofpeace6393]

@@saidesimon3144 You can’t. You can only change how you call yourselves.

[@microwavegum]

Oof religion is a weird thing

[@sana5426]

Me being a bisexual christian ...........

[@sre1236]

What’s weird is imagining something can come from nothing . Something eternal has to exist and science agrees the universe has a distinct starting point.

[@naughtyducky6325]

@@sre1236ok but what made god then? because if he had just always existed then there is no starting point

[@joshuastevens232]

They never went to conversion therapy. They stated that.

[@avgpsycho-6972]

If u can understand body language, look at those who have the changed shirts

[@southernpennsyrailfan8579]

conversion camps are Torture camps for LGBTQ Youths. Love is Love and theres nothing that can change that. Thank you Trevor Project

[@jule8280]

God is love.

[@wakeupthisisntreal8168]

@@jule8280 I hope so...

[@zanyzoo6767]

@@jule8280 no god is hate.

[@jule8280]

@@zanyzoo6767 God hates sin. But he loves us so much that he sent Jesus to die for our sins so that we may have eternal life if we believe and follow him. ✝️💖

[@zanyzoo6767]

@@jule8280 NO god loves hate judgement , misery and war. And anything that can make a life not worth living.

[@trinitylea3755]

I don’t want to change. I’m happily lesbian

[@jaycris1980]

Eww

[@dannyboy020]

Yasss

[@nicusorchannel5735]

Yes you do otherwise you wouldn't be here

[@dannyboy020]

@@jaycris1980 eww you

[@mmeg.n]

same

[@coreymishler6337]

All I got was chicken pox, shingles and Geodon too young for Shingrix too late whistle blower

[@cameronweaving769]

I am going through conversion therapy right now in Canada and I agree no one should be forced into it and that in the past the practices were barbaric. But I have met people who are going to the same psychologist that I am and none of us are being tortured or faced coercion, half of us are not even religious. For myself just didn't want to be that way, especially after I experienced first hand how toxic, malicious and hateful the lgbt and pride communities actually are, especially if you have any, however slight, differing views or beliefs. So I sought out help and even though where I live it's banned I found a psychologist who was willing to help, risking his license to help someone in need, where all other psychologists and therapists ignored my pleas of helping me and kept saying that "I need to stop acting straight" and "embrace who I am" even though I had already saw a psychologist a few years ago to do that and all it did was make my feelings worse and caused me more psychological pain. But my new psychologist said that he was never gonna push me towards anything I don't wanna be and would never force me to do anything I didn't wanna do, he also said that the chance of me actually changing my sexuality is low and that I may never change but he would help me control the feelings and live the life I wanna live, he used the analogy of I'm driving the car and deciding on the destination, he is just trying to help me navigate. Now I am living a life where I am far happier then I have ever been, even in these hard times.

[@nightwalkYEG]

Best of luck ❤️‍🔥

[@dannyboy020]

I hope you can get out of it... It's sad people make you believe being gay is wrong

[@cameronweaving769]

@@dannyboy020 I am happier now then I have ever been, going back would only make my life worse.

[@dannyboy020]

@@cameronweaving769 that's fine just don't try making gay people feel the need to change

[@cameronweaving769]

@@dannyboy020 I haven't, it was the lgbt community and the way they treated me that made me want to change. And my objection to the law that makes it illegal for people like me to get help, that prompted me to post the original post.

[@zanyzoo6767]

Im looking for a straight to gay conversion group? Apparently you learn how to shop, and they give you pain management courses.

[@commandercorl1544]

I like this comment.

[@SukehoroKenkan]

yo amo ser gay puro y jamas lo cambiaría, de hecho estoy orgulloso de ello y me siento bendecido y especial

[@rjanjim]

You’re special cuz you receive d**k in your a**? 🤢

[@Zoolama34709]

@@rjanjimSo? Who cares! Homophobic POS

[@Zoolama34709]

@@rjanjimLearn how to write 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@birdinmotion1525]

Good cause you can't change that, get used to it

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

That guy's family convinces me. Those kids wouldn't exist without this option. They are happier now than before. What's wrong with that? Whatever makes you happy.

[@rohancoleman4092]

Just look at him, that man is obviously still gay and will always be gay. Unfortunately he has been shamed into purchaing a lie. He is lying to himself and now he is lying to his family as well. Conversion therapy has been scientifically proven to be totally inefecftive, this archaic practice will do nothing but pass this man's trauma O to his children.

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

​@@rohancoleman4092 BS, it's just like any other therapy. If a person is gay and for whatever reason wants a therapist to try to convert him to like women, that's his personal situation and freedom. This is America. Seems like a marxist agenda of yours to fit all lgbtq into one far left box.

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

@@rohancoleman4092 What is obvious is that this is the United States where if someone feels they want this type of therapy they should be allowed the freedom to attain suxch therapy. This is a leftwing scam that therapy needs to be outlawed, causes harm according to who? Some sociologists with an axe to grind. lol. Ask a doctor who isn't a Marxist.

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

​@@rohancoleman4092 ABC investigated a lot of gay conversion therapy and found "in some cases" there were unconventional and in some cases even cruel therapy methods, that means that in a lot of cases it was just normal therapy where nothing out of the ordinary occured. lol.

[@queerscientist2120]

What about another man who founded an ex-gay organization, married a woman, and has two GROWN children? Is that convince you more? Well, the man I am talking about is McKrae Game who was so-called "ex-gay" for 28 years. Now, he is ex-ex-gay, i.e., gay. He now says when he worked for the "ex-gay" organization, no one's attraction had changed when he asked privately (even if people claimed they had changed in public). You know, they can hide their desire and pretend that they are happy.

[@thetruepatriot7733]

If transgender people (men) can claim to be women why can't these people claim to be straight? Aren't those the rules? I thought we are whatever we claim to be now? If I'm forced to respect transgender's for being their "authentic selves" don't these people deserve the same respect?

[@dannyboy020]

Gender and sexuality are different things I can't believe I have to explain this

[@commandercorl1544]

A socially constructed role in society is not the same as liking dudes.

[@endigosun]

Taking away people’s freedoms on either side... NOT COOL It’s not justice.

[@gamer-uk5xr]

People who went for conversion therapy chose to go. It is optional

[@aidenw8014]

@@gamer-uk5xr no, practically no people choose conversion therapy, studies have shown upwards of 80% of people in conversion therapy are under the age of 18 and are forced to go by parents or guardians.

[@IsntTheInternetGreat]

@@gamer-uk5xr Is it really 'optional' when you're in a belief system where homesexuality is taught to be not OK?

[@juniorqindes8335]

@@aidenw8014 source? Source? Cmon buddy, I want to see where you got those numbers and how you did because I am certian thats BS or you made it up.

[@teamtundra2619]

@@gamer-uk5xr I feel sorry for them

[@nashla2006]

this makes me so sad , so brainwashed.

[@JohnBaptist702]

According to what standard?

[@user-il5hy5tr5z]

No. U r

[@juniorqindes8335]

“They disagree with me? Must be brainwashed. Take away their right to choose!”

[@theunogod114]

@@juniorqindes8335 How can you determine that being gay is a choice?

[@juniorqindes8335]

@@theunogod114 who said it was homophobe? .-.

[@mleprof3594]

Dayumm that guy holding the baby is HAWT! 🤤

[@MrSstiel]

Philosophers have written about possibly safe future methods. If transgender operations are permissible, those could be.

[@egalitarius8582]

that's why they are not doctors

[@MrSstiel]

@@egalitarius8582 Never claimed they were. Interestingly this piece is written by a man who is discontented with being heterosexual. medium.com/@rhys/re-orientation-fb131ba7bd9b

[@gamer-uk5xr]

Not all methods are harmful

[@juniorqindes8335]

@@egalitarius8582 hi homophobe. How you doing?

[@Grokford]

If they're proven to be safe and effective that's a conversation that can be had, but we're talking about human experimentation, often without informed consent.

[@thedisgruntledidealist]

2:06 that dude on the left looking at him like he’s still gay 😂. Plus the dude he’s looking at still speaks in a gay accent so he’s still gay

[@Michael_Livingstone]

Give them a few years and they’ll admit it was a fraud.

[@namename6491]

You were never gay if you had a chance to “change” it but a lot of people don't want to talk about that 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@shiori00]

Therapy

[@Allday822]

They changed men defo living a lie 😢

[@maxfeilich1021]

Sexuality is not a choice

[@peteyb4504]

Stealing money is attractive too but its WRONG

[@nickbarcheck1019]

This is so sad. Don't deny nature. You are who you are.

[@juniorqindes8335]

“Don’t deny nature” hear that? Go outside. Stop living in homes with techknowlegy. Stop taking those vaccines. No more medicine or TV

[@baneling3098]

@@juniorqindes8335 that’s not the nature he’s talking about, this is “the basic or inherent features of something, especially when seen as characteristic of it.”

[@theunogod114]

@@juniorqindes8335 Maybe you should. Your religious fantasies that you find on TV has led you to believe a biased mindset that members of the LGBTQ community can change.

[@juniorqindes8335]

@@theunogod114 I’m an atheist you homophobe. Q? What’s that stand for again guy calling us a thing that means strange or weird?

[@highwired7781]

Tell that to the transgender community 😂

[@pedowise]

Having a closed minded view is really to limit yourself

[@taco2728]

Andd painnn fear anddd dranaaa painnnn

[@axel-fh1ru]

100% sure they all are on grindr

[@yomamma6756]

Mmmmm gross.

[@axel-fh1ru]

@@yomamma6756 what gross

[@yomamma6756]

@@axel-fh1ru mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmgross.

[@davidjones8330]

I never did conversion therapy. Salvation gave me the desire to change. God carried it out by teaching me to walk in obedience to Him...life has a way of doing that to you. It's called becoming a mature male and man. God is SO patient!

[@jimkeddy7905]

Well Said Davy . God bless ya . And happy Christmas 🎄

[@pridan94]

Lol. Ok

[@LeonaBundy]

AMEN

[@dannyboy020]

You basically just called a bunch of gay people imature and wrong for wanting freedom and love and acceptance.... . And you think you deserve respect

[@dannyboy020]

If you are telling the truth about changing good for you .... But the fact of the matter is being gay is not wrong and is completely ok... And if you think otherwise then I think you should keep that to yourself.. homophobia is nothing but negative

[@katlmento28]

Fraud, the answer is fraud

[@honeybrew5722]

I guess the Pulse survirvior was "scared straight".

[@TerribleRecordsMC]

I "changed" too. I once felt immense guilt for simply existing, then I tossed my religion to the dumpster and I couldn't be happier.

[@taco2728]

Make him put it on everything he dodd

[@aimeeproulx662]

HAHAHAHAH IM LAUGHING CAUSE ITS SO STUPID

[@campusx4195]

Ha ha ha...none of of them is now "straight". Just went back to repressing the feelings. Given the chance that no one would find out....im sure that would not turn it down.

[@Zoolama34709]

Exactly! How much you want to bet a lot of these men still go on Grindr to seek other men 😂 Bunch of hypocrites

[@user-ii5of7sy3i]

This is not funny,is kinda sad...

[@noliberalismeveragain]

No 1 is actually gay they're compensating for the lack of a father.....

[@aaliyah1876]

My cousin saw three of those guys on Grindr 🤣

[@betterthanemril988]

The “Homosexual lifestyle” 🙄

[@gabrielzayas2251]

Total fallacy

[@realDonald-trump]

It's called 'denial'

[@theafricangirl5125]

No

[@Grokford]

@@theafricangirl5125 Who do you think knows more about this? You or the people who have actually lived it.

[@theafricangirl5125]

@@Grokford I know you don't know anything 🤣🤣

[@Grokford]

@@theafricangirl5125 Girl, if I don’t know anything then what do you know⸮

[@theafricangirl5125]

@@Grokford I know you are complicit with degeneracy

[@trapidtrap2612]

We all do realise that homosexuality isn't a nagural thing right?

[@jaylolo3716]

I am not sure anymore... This makes me so unhappy..

[@JohnDoe-wj3lv]

Why, because people have changed their lives and are happier for it?

[@hichamsrour1691]

i'm a month late but listen, the people in this video don't know any better than you do. the people in these conments don't know any better than you do. you're in control of your own life. you know whats best for you. truly don't think everything on the internet has to apply to you. just observe and think for yourself. as long as you're not hurting yourself or others then you do you. best of luck

[@theunogod114]

@@JohnDoe-wj3lv People can’t change who they like, sorry.

[@juniorqindes8335]

@@theunogod114 proof? Also hi again gay basher, I’m still wondering why you pretend to be on our side

[@theunogod114]

@Just Another Commenter Proof?

[@brittblessed]

I'm not sorry to say this, but this or these conversion groups will NOT work without Jesus being the converter of these lifestyles. I don't hear any one of these people mentioning the change of heart due to Jesus coming into their hearts or that someone shared the gospel with them. This is a spiritual battle and only doing the work in the physical will not be enough to fight this lifestyle.

[@denizonan4588]

Repentance is the key.

[@brittblessed]

@@denizonan4588 true!

[@emilywalton4105]

That's because the news media cut it out. If you looked up changed ex gay. You'll see hundreds of testimonials the media only wanted to share what they wanted to share. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqPQgal9p6eSo6c

[@sjimonstodulskiy8829]

What is this life all the time fighting against yourself? Start to love yourself and enjoy your life. You have only 1!

[@Grokford]

It really doesn't matter, people who rely on faith to change them don't have any better results.

[@benmelman9505]

It's just plain wrong. And I am ashamed of my fellow horror/mystery/true-crime fans who say otherwise.

[@jturner2577]

There all liars.

[@Owlhousespecial]

And you know that how exactly??

[@porch.honky.420]

@@Owlhousespecial because you can't change from homosexual to heterosexual or vice versa.

[@taco2728]

DID

[@thomasboutaugh1776]

What about the people that don’t want gay feelings? They deserve help.

[@mason4966]

My question in response to that would be why don't they want to be that way?

[@CanadaDragon1]

@@mason4966 Simple. Because they don't want to be gay anymore. Some people living a homosexual lifestyle may start to lose interest and want to do something different. So, they seek for change. Now ask yourself this. Is it fair for the government to tell a homosexual to remain gay and deny them the right to change? No. It's not fair. Outlawing conversion therapy violates their right to choose.

[@HoldenNY22]

If People want to be Gay, they should be allowed. But , if People, want to be straight- they should be allowed to be Straight. If one person is sucessful, then it works for at least some people.. The government should not be allowed to ban a therapy that could help people.

[@egalitarius8582]

there is no actual solid proof Gay Conversion Therapy works

[@endigosun]

Egalitarius There is no proof that it doesn’t work either. If I can take you at your word, I can take the others at their word as well

[@OGimouse1]

@@endigosun There is a huge body of work showing it harms more people than "helps" but I am curious if you think people should be allowed to go to a therapist to be made gay--whether the tools should be allowed to flow both ways.

[@thefvguy5648]

You know being bi is a thing, right?

[@farranasution4068]

What does it meant by allowed?

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

It should be legal to give the therapy, but illegal for the therapy to put a guilt trip on the person.

[@porch.honky.420]

It should be illegal or legal along with heterosexual conversion therapy. It really doesn't work and anyone saying it does is either lying to push the anti LGBT Christian naritive or they're bisexual.

[@GalaxyGal-]

It should be illegal for it to be called "therapy" for insurance billing purposes

[@someangrypotato7197]

A therapy that is proven to not work shouldn’t be legal.

[@daddyshrek2295]

not only is it a fraud, it's literally torture

[@daddyshrek2295]

@Just Another Commenter you can't change sexuality with brainwashing

[@DRob-gq3ki]

The same could be said about mutilating children, but people who provide therapy are the crazy ones.

[@dannyboy020]

Please don't tell me they wanna try to do this to children..... 🤢🤮

[@porch.honky.420]

It's actually legal for Christian parents to FORCE their LGBT children into attending conversion camps in 25 states 3 of which have federal protections.

[@dannyboy020]

@@porch.honky.420 that’s weird and wrong

[@porch.honky.420]

@@dannyboy020 yet Republicans call us the groomers.

[@emilywalton4105]

Yall realize that it's not a conversation therapy. The news media completely lied about this.

[@sapphicwriter]

Just because the sessions are passive and not physically attacking the LGBTQ patients doesn't mean it's not still conversion therapy, at the end of the day it's still attempting to change someone's sexuality which is homophobic.

[@saidesimon3144]

People wanted out of their homosexuality ways. Let them choose where too accept help.

[@GalaxyGal-]

Why though?

[@Grokford]

People want a cure for their illnesses so we should let people sell them snake oil.

[@user-ss7zt1nt6r]

It’s cynical of you calling it “help”.

[@lovelife2186]

Lie just stop

[@saidesimon3144]

@@lovelife2186thats are very convincing argument

[@taco2728]

Diddd

[@masetrucking6048]

BS

[@DIBBY40]

You can't change your sexuality but you can change your religion.

[@suzannekrauss9208]

This coverage is not accurate. It is not about conversion therapy. It was about individuals who had a life changing spiritual life experience with the person of Jesus Christ in their hearts. Again NOT conversion therapy. The heart becomes one with Christ and the change comes from the inside out. As with ALL who encounter Christ whatever condition we meet Him in - we individually change. These people who are speaking here are giving their personal experience in this. They are NOT advocating for “therapy”. They are saying that the door to choose freely should be open in a free country. Not forced therapy and not limited lifestyle choices if individuals are going through change that takes them outside of their prior lifestyle. It is sad that MSM paints a one sided take as if their views on the experiences of others must fit MSM framing of reality. In other words you are what we say about you. Man I left that behind in the small town I grew up in years ago. Labels only pin people down and prevent true growth.

[@thedisgruntledidealist]

People can do what they do want as long as it doesn’t harm people but these people literally run an organization based on forcing people to convert to heterosexuality and these practices have been disproved many many times.

[@VicGeorge2K6]

@Maestro Dan If you don't want to escape a life of sin, that's your choice, and God will honor it. But God will also judge you for that choice at the end of time when you leave this world.

[@frogtownroad9104]

@@VicGeorge2K6 You’re playing games. Plenty of faithful Christians don’t feel the compulsion to deny their sexuality and “change” to appease your sick peeping-Tom mentality. I’m not going to go over those six verses with you (again) but I can definitively say that your claims to deny my sexuality is not the end all be all Christian position. You have to get over it if you want dialogue. If you don’t, we’ll simply raise your children in gay churches when inevitably throw them out of your home.

[@commandercorl1544]

I have been crhistian my entire life and only recently have I started to lean towards atheism, I believed in Jesus Christ's teachings. And yet here we are, I still think guys are hot.

[@Grokford]

What a long-winded way of saying that conversion therapy doesn't work.

[@sandiegan3697]

You are lucky enough to leave that miserable life Now you all can have a nice family life

[@mylesmottley915]

Conversion therapy does not practice lobitomies, shock torture, and abuse. That is torture. The Changed movement is about preserving conversion therapy, as in counseling, not torture. People who do not want to be gay go to conversion therapy. No one forces them.

[@elliefuller3667]

Conversion therapy is conversion therapy. If they aren’t using electroshock therapy or lobotomies, they are emotionally and mentally manipulating you. Can’t change your sexuality, period. It’s as futile as trying to change your hair texture or your eye color.

[@porch.honky.420]

They used to and I'm pretty sure some of them still do. To believe otherwise would be idiotic.

[@porch.honky.420]

LGBT children are forced to go to conversion therapy.

[@Diablo3364]

Except when parents force their kid to go. That's abuse because you are trying to force them to be someone their not.

[@GalaxyGal-]

You're free to pursue things that wont work. But my insurance shouldn't have to pay for it :)

[@cosminbryant1243]

Jesus can make you into a new creation in him

[@Grokford]

And yet Jesus does not change or race or our gender, Jesus does not change our core personality. It's almost as if we are the way we are because that's how God wants us to be.

[@noliberalismeveragain]

. Of course they can change because gay is compensation compensation for deep emotional abuse in the past Such as no father no mother or being touched

[@35mayocynthia]

Conversion therapy is not a fraudulent form of therapy it is a religious practice. I agree that torture should not be used on anyone but this treatment should be made available to anyone that wants it.

[@grrgrrgrr0202]

It is not a religious practice at all, since in pretty much any religion, the negative stigma towards LGB people is based upon misconception.

[@nurdinsaya1063]

Ex-gay.???? This so funny because the they always talking as gay men not like straight people. Hehehehhe

[@daniellucia7331]

Not everyone wants to live the homosexual lifestyle and not everyone is happy like that. Respect the paths other people want to take if you want them to respect yours.

[@juliahornback2843]

Well they have to come to peace with it

[@lebomolefe1048]

Do they respect people who choose to live their truth?

[@theafricangirl5125]

​@@lebomolefe1048 do you?

[@Grokford]

Not everyone wants to live with dark skin but that doesn't mean that bleaching it is any less harmful or any less evidence of internal prejudice.

[@daniellucia7331]

@@Grokford what do you mean?