Is Geeta ACTUALLY The WEAKEST Pokemon Champion?

So Geeta has been a popular character lately, and not for positive reasons. Today I'm going over Geeta as a character and seeing if she's truly as bad as everyone says she is!
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[@aldoushuxley5953]

The real problem is the order of her team. Toxic spikes are beneficial on your LEAD, not your last Pokémon. And Supreme Overlord gives Kingambit more power, the more allies are down. So why not have that as your ace, in last place???

[@dannyc8900]

Agreed I thought it was weird that the last mon sent out toxic spikes when getting hit. Seems like wasted potential

[@ashelygordon669]

I wholeheartedly agree as well, there are definitely some questionable choices regarding Gogoat, Veluza and Avalugg respectively but excluding that I am personally and genuinely fine with this!!! 🤔🤣🤣🤣

[@jaredtheastralartist2510]

I mean it wouldn’t really propose that much of a challenge. You whould just one shot it anyway. I think glemora is it much cooler Pokémon to use as a ace and Fits her a bit more than kinggambit. And don’t judge champions based off of difficulty. Every champions easy if you know what you’re doing, but dangerous if you let them.

[@scruffythecat4]

IIRC Kingambit is Team Star Giacomo's ace in his rematch, but Geeta should have sent out Kingambit after Glimmora to take advantage of Supreme Overlord.

[@jaredtheastralartist2510]

@@scruffythecat4 for me, she sent it out before Glenmora as her fifth Pokémon. I think that was just because of the AI. So for me, I could’ve been dangerous.

[@animesoul479]

Really, the only thing that Geeta did was make me wonder just how strong Nemona truly is. She held back against the top champion of the region, and STILL won. Granted, Geeta's underwhelming team, but still. I want to know what Nemona's true power is cause the final fight against her is just made up of pokemon she caught during the player's journey to be on 'our level'.

[@dantemustdie00]

Yeah this is essentially Nemona's New Game + run, I', curious to her original team as well

[@D00ML0RD1]

proceeds to have a team only legendarys

[@hugomventura]

@@D00ML0RD1 would be hilarious If she has all the ruin mons

[@maxspecs]

Nemona’s true team takes 2 hours to beat…

[@gabeskai]

@@D00ML0RD1 I would laugh my ass off

[@RogueOmega]

My current personal theories on Geeta: 1.) She fought us with a deliberately weak and poorly ordered team because she wanted us to become a Champion so that she'd have someone more competent to ask favors of instead of Nemona, who was really only competent in regard to battling. 2.) Her ace being Glimmora, a Pokemon that, while looking like some sort of crystal flower in appearance, spreads toxic barbs all over the place when directly interacted with, combined with the fact that a majority of the Gym Leaders either don't like her and/or are intimidated by her, may imply that behind that super-professional persona she has going is a rather, well, toxic person.

[@jlog2149]

The problem is she specifically said she is “incapable of holding back”

[@RiverWilliamson]

I think she's actually Glimmora and the "trainer" is a lifelike puppet. I will not be taking questions at this time

[@Jaridavin]

The first note, by her own words, isn't possible unless she's straight up lying to the player. She stated she cannot hold back, at all, and that's why nobody except your rival got to become champ since she started being in charge. So either the team made her a joke by accident, or she's lying to us, which, I don't see why she'd need to, nor has anything come to even hint she could be besides her actual fight being bad.

[@squirreladdictedtocoffee7068]

@@RiverWilliamson WIL YOU NOW?

[@idioticlight]

@@RiverWilliamson wouldnt another more psychic pokemon hidden away in area zero make sense?... like a strange entity seen in a Vision

[@basicsimp8798]

If they made Geeta an secret villain via the DLC and make her have a better team, then she's going to be the best Champion character wise. Especially since you realise that Geeta is basically running the League and region like a business and business types are usually revealed to be the villain. Plus the gym leaders reveal to not like her. She also knows what happened in Area Zero as Nemona commented the Glimmora she uses is from there. It's possible she's the one who funded Sada/Turo's research and cover up what really happened there. Plus the fact that a Pokémon Champion can be the region's villain is just juicy.

[@JoeyLamontagne]

I wouldn't be surprised that she was the one that ordered the expulsion of Penny and all of Team Star

[@phoenixkid5688]

The problem with the glimmora comment is that you can find em outside area zero. I did by the steel titan

[@TechnoArpan]

@@phoenixkid5688 You can find them, but there has to be a reason the game points out that Glimmora are from Area Zero

[@DM-zh2kt]

@@TechnoArpan Nemona didn't said that it was from there, she said didn't know it could be found there. Still weird that she pointed that out tho.

[@fg009letyrds8]

Unless Gamefreak writes the DLC lore with Geeta on the same level of plot writing as Shakespeare lol no, Geeta won't reach the level of Blue, Red, Steven and Cynthia in terms of sheer coolness. It's possible for her to reach the level of Leon though.

[@trashketchum9782]

what really does it for me is that she says she is “incapable of holding back” in a battle. if she didn’t say that, we could assume she wasn’t using her team optimally bc she’s fighting against a kid. but no, this was Geeta at full strength.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Did a pokemon Champion really just dip into edgelord, then prove to be super super weak? Goddamn, tell me this isn't actually a Sasuke quote.

[@Kkubey]

Well, that does really play into the robot theory. Other than that, it could be a lie too. Or really raise the question how she got the position, and why she never loses the title of top-champ even after being defeated by multiple trainers.

[@The777brown]

She probably has multiple teams that's the only thing I can think of..

[@Crystre]

She lied to make us feel better

[@dennysoto1236]

I tried to throw her a bone and say "Ok, she admits it's unbecoming if a Champion to always go all out, so maybe she chose absolute garbage (plus Kingambit) so she can go all out and still give people a fair shot"

[@SpaceDetectiveTravis]

Considering the sucker punch Volo gave us in the post-game, I wouldn't be surprised if we get another bait-and-switch with Geeta revealing her actual team, but probably just a crackpot theory

[@virginiaorwell906]

I hope these theories remain so... I think waiting for the DLC to reveal Geeta's true team and/or true strength would be a terrible idea. It undermines her saying she is 'incapable of holding back' during her battle. Her team is laughable. Considering what happens in Area Zero, as part of the story, Geeta could never have been the strongest.

[@jet_set8648]

*LOOKS LIKE YOU’RE GOING TO THE SHADOW REALM, JIMBO!*

[@TheJadeFist]

Or they just like, well, we gotta have a champion by the end of the week, just give her whatever it'll be fine. Also Volo was heavily hinted before the whole he worships pokemon satan thing was revealed.

[@KrisRN23935]

It would be funny since Geeta creeps me out. I told my husband that she looks like a character from XD Gale of Darkness games and he immediately said she kinda looks like a villain from that game

[@yukijadenfilms3425]

You’re right.

[@pancakeman592]

The funny thing is, Skeledirge can still sweep even with the water and rock types, as long as it has shadow ball, earth power, and of course torch song.

[@StormOfRavens47]

Yea Skeledirge is honestly busted against most of the gym leaders

[@cyrus6461]

Yyyeeeppp

[@cyrus6461]

Yyyeeeppp

[@Takapon218]

You don't even need earth power. You can torch song your way through the entire fight. I used turbo to just punch my way through bc I was bored and I didn't even need to tera to beat her LOL

[@Kkubey]

Taking the Croc sure feels like easy mode. Even starting with the first gyms. Downside being water types apart from maybe Azumarill (which is actually weak against Glimmora) and grass types seem rather weak other than the starters, while there is fire type alternatives, even more so with the two 7 star raids that have already happened, and I was able to trade Charmander now.

[@X525Crossfire]

Credit to SmithPlays Pokemon for the bones of this improved team for Geeta: 1. Palafin - her lead, which stays in just long enough to use Flip Turn to switch into Glimmora. Later in the battle she sends it back out with its ridiculous Hero stats to soften/clean up your team ahead of Kingambit. 2. Glimmora - switched into from Palafin, hopefully to take a physical attack to trigger Toxic Debris. Still has Toxic Spikes as a move to set the field and poison your team. 3. Bombirdier - really could be any Pokemon capable of using Whirlwind or even Roar. It's meant to fill the same niche as Braviary from Professor Kukui's team and forcibly switch your team into the entry hazard Toxic Spikes. Yes I'm aware Bombirdier was already featured in the Path of Legends, but it's also a Gen IX Mon that can learn Whirlwind via Level Up. If it has its Hidden Ability of Rocky Payload, it could even have a Rock-type move as a changeup. 4. Armarouge/Ceruledge - which one depends on the version of the game you're playing. Besides providing some variety between versions, this mainly gets her the offensive utility of Fire, along with whichever secondary typing it has. Could in theory act as the first sweeper of her team. 5. Toedscruel - if for whatever reason the player has managed to clear the Toxic Spikes, Toedscruel can use Mycelium Might to hit the player with unstoppable status moves. Otherwise it could just use Leech Seed to chip away at players' Pokemon while healing itself, or the more straightforward Giga Drain. Its Ground-typing and a move like Earth Power also helps it check Electric-types players could have brought for Palafin and Bombirdier. The only 4x weakness Toedscruel has is Ice, which is vulnerable to 3 Mons on this revised team. Toedscruel also gives Geeta's team some Convergent Evolution Mon representation. 6. Kingambit - too many have said why this just makes sense. I think a team like this is much more of a Champion-level challenge, and the competitive strategies it employs would better fit Geeta's statement about being completely incapable of holding back.

[@killshot314]

Hell yeah!!! Someone who recognizes Pat!! Zombies fans unite! xD

[@RiverWilliamson]

That and an actual AI for her would have been brilliant

[@CrimsonKnight]

I think she's intentionally weak. Suspiciously so. I personally treat Nemona as the real champion battle and the AI professors were the real final bosses. But I do think Geeta is really suspicious and will play a bigger role in the DLCs. Also interesting theory I saw that tries to explain Geeta's weird team is that each of her pokemon represent a part of the region: - kingambit is the bamboo forest in north east - Veluza is ocean and/or big lake - Glimora is Area 0 - Gogoat is the fields in the south east - Espathra is desert in the west - Avalug is snowy mountain in the north 🤷‍♂

[@AlejandroGonzalez-ks5ln]

Out of all the pokemon she could of have, she had a gogoat , a fucking GOGOAT!! Plus veruza*** n the worst ice type avalug lol

[@netweed09]

@@AlejandroGonzalez-ks5ln ​ I used to reject the ''She's evil'' theories. But now am willing do actually do a 180 on those -_sort of_ - because I really do see her as being an AI aswell. That _technically_ would still not be _Her_ lol - but it's just too much of an intrigue and curiosity to overlook this prime theory. An AI would indeed 'appear nice' on the face of things to be 'installed' for the settings. Also her 'Star' eye pupils, ''double hands'' on her sleeves, 'Tests', the ''Sheika Eye'' (AI) on her hands.

[@maxspecs]

Should have been Cetitan and Arboliva instead of Avalugg and Gogoat.

[@gicrueldad9520]

Victory Road is just one of the 3 routes, that gets no special benefits for being "the Pokemon League", the "you clear and finish the game" or something, and Geeta is *not even* the Final Boss of that route, that´s Nemona so it´s no wonder why she is way weaker than your overall champion. And then, I already said it, it´s just a route that gets no special treatment, the Final Boss of the game is AI Sada/Turo, which successfully pulls that title off, the atmosphere, the difficulty, the team... and what actually happens when you find out that it´s not truly over yet... THAT´S the actual Final Boss of the game (and winning here sends you to the credits so that´s when you actually finish the game).

[@gicrueldad9520]

@@AlejandroGonzalez-ks5ln Calling Avalugg the worse is pretty unfair to it, the Pokemon is just a 50/50 since very little Physical Pokemon can genuinely beat it in a 1v1 with that absurd of resistance having 95 base HP and 187 Base Def. Physical attackers wise I can only think of legendaries beating Avalugg, and that´s already pretty unfair, like yeah Mega Mewtwo X using Zen Headbutt (not going for the unfair super effective move there) probably defeats it in 3 hits, but Avalugg with Avalanche probably also takes it out in 3 hits all things said lol, and that´s Mega Mewtwo X we are talking about, a Pokemon with 245 aprox. higher total base stat than Avalugg, so, I´ll think it´s actually pretty strong. But of course if you bring a Water type focused on Special Attack and use Surf you are more than likely going to take Avalugg out in 1 hit, but dude can probably holds it´s own against Mega Mewtwo X which already is way stronger than it is. So calling it the worse ice type for any team not PVP is not really fair, I guess you haven´t heard stories about people wiping out to Erin´s Star Mobile since it has Stamina+Shift Gear, which is not really beatable going with a team consisting only of physical attackers xd.

[@grantnewton4230]

I’m here to confirm that after 5 torch songs and a terra boost Glimmora will not stop your Skeliderge sweep.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Skeledirge learns Earth Power via TM. Glimmora isn't stopping your sweep. You don't even need Tera.

[@grantnewton4230]

@@ShiningJudgment666 but but but… it was the champion fight and it felt wrong not to

[@ShiningJudgment666]

@@grantnewton4230 Skeledirge is pretty overpowered though. Easily the strongest of the starters this generation.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

@@grantnewton4230 I mean, Skeledirge's STABs alone cover quite a lot but honestly, Earth Power is a great filler move to widen Super Effective coverage and more damage without having to resort to moves with imperfect accuracy like Fire Blast or drawbacks like Overheat.

[@xylynthian753]

@@ShiningJudgment666 Torch Song, Earth Power, Shadow Ball, Slack Off w/throat spray as the held item. Instant sweep of every trainer in the late game.

[@dwglr]

This feels like the perfect place to give my personal theory about Geeta! Outside of half of the gym leaders not really caring for her (And Larry outright disliking her), we don't really have any indication of who she is as a person. You brought up the idea that she almost came off as AI like or robotic, but personally, I think her ace pokemon Glimmora is the issue here. Sure, pokemon do tend to design SOME of their characters with aspects of their ace pokemon, but something about how Glimmora itself is portrayed in game makes me think it might actually be controlling Geeta in a situation like Lusamine with Nihilego. It's in the eyes for me. In game, Geeta's got a yellow eye shine that looks very much like Glimmora's eyes rather than the regular white eye shine every one else has. Glimmora is a rock/poison type like Nihilego, who used its poison to control its host, altering their appearance in a small (or larger) way to indicate that poison control. In my time exploring the Great Crater, I've been able to find 4 out of Geeta's 6 pokemon that spawn there. This may not be that significant since three of them can be found in high numbers outside of the crater, but only Glimmora is exclusive to the crater. Glimmora is heavily hinted to be where tera crystals come from that allow terastalization to occur. All the logs except for a pokedex entry are smudged (whether they are Sada/Turo's personal diaries you can find laying around the research stations in Area Zero, or that one entry in the Scarlet/Violet book with all the smudges in it. The picture on the side, as well as what can be inferred from the words blurred out, definitely hint towards Glimmora being this pokemon.) Why the smudges? Unless either someone or something wanted Glimmora's true nature to be kept secret. The tera crystals themselves are said in game to alter the functions of living things, most commonly seen in changing up a pokemon's typing, but also seen more in how Sada/Turo were driven mad in the Great Crater in becoming increasingly more and more obsessive with their research on the crystals and blind to anything else outside of it. The AI version of the professor is made as a copy of all the knowledge and thought processes of the former professor, yet they don't think the professor's research should be allowed to continue. The only difference between them is one is organic and the other is mechanic. Tera crystals fully optimize machinery, allowing for the construction of the time machine as well as developing an AI, but it simply alters the function of living things. I think Sada/Turo had such prolonged exposure to the crystals (made by Glimmora) that it altered their mind state. Even for the short period they left the crater, they were still hyper focused on going back to study the crystals more. I also believe Heath, the guy who wrote the Scarlet/Violet book had hallucinations due to exposure to either the crystals in Area Zero or his encounter with what's hinted to be Glimmora. Glimmora being what makes the tera crystals, I believe it makes it out of its poison. Poison can cause hallucinatory symptoms as well as slowly eat away at someone from the inside out depending on the poison. (As seen with difference between real professor and AI professor) Glimmora only spawns in the Great Crater. Glimmet spawns in the over world, sure, but it's rare, and I personally don't think they were native to the areas they can be found in. I think Geeta, in an attempt to make terastalization more accessible, wanted to implant Glimmet in caves around Paldea so they'd produce crystals they'd be able to access outside of Area Zero. Either that, or a Glimmora controlled Geeta used that as the reasoning like how Indoctrination in the original Mass Effect game was used as a means to subtly get a host to do its bidding while making them think they were in control. (I also believe Geeta could've taken a specimen of Great Tusk/Iron Treads out into one of Donphan's native habitats to see if it could integrate because there's no actual holes in the Great Crater to suggest that the past/future Donphan escaped or broke through). The only way you can make the move tera blast is with Glimmet Crystals, and the only place you can find tera blast as a TM is amongst all the crystals at the bottom of Area Zero... or when Geeta gives them to you. Presumably, she was able to make these TMs to give out using the crystals she could get from Glimmora. I don't know whether I shouldn't trust Geeta, or whether I shouldn't trust Glimmora. There's definitely more going on than the game's letting on, but whether or not we get any answers is entirely dependent on how the DLC is for this game.

[@guffthebir72]

thats alot of words

[@Sunflowerpebbless]

I think she looks more like Tapu Fini

[@chimuoma390]

@@Sunflowerpebbless Chief Julia Of Night Claw From Digimon World Dusk Just Needs Her Maxed Stats/Resists ChaosGallantmon With The Moves Call Leo,Dark Hazard,Demon Slash,Demon Blast,Mystic Pulse,And The Traits All Elements,Mind's Eye,Gladiator,Status Barrier,And DefenseUp5 To DESTROY GEETA!Like If You Agree!

[@joshleong9677]

That's interesting...I do wish Glimmora's deal of having tera jewels as petals and such will be expanded upon in the DLCs, imagine the third legendary is a Super Glimmora of some sort

[@twistedtaco5254]

NO BUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY ONTO SOMETHING... THIS WOULD BE SO COOL

[@artisticcannibalism1350]

You know what would have really made her battle stand out in the series? Keeping glenmora as her Ace but also having it be the first Pokémon she sends out... just like how Geeta's job is to run the league, her Ace's job is to set up the rest of the team for success. And just like that I've managed to open up a brand new world for potential Champion team design, you're welcome

[@grantflippin7808]

It would be really easy to hype it up, too. Have people comment that it's an insurmountable challenge, then have here lead with it

[@TheTrueJBru]

She’s definitely gonna have something to do with the DLC, if not specifically the third legendary, considering her ace being only native to Area Zero (not counting the pre-evo)

[@zimonzieclown1633]

Maybe she *is* the third legendary, but in disguise.🤔

[@harmen98]

@@zimonzieclown1633 how does that work?

[@zimonzieclown1633]

@@harmen98 How does what work? Sarcasm?

[@zacmayes2802]

@@zimonzieclown1633 Haha sarcasm but like, what if it's like some zoroark sht.

[@guffthebir72]

@@zimonzieclown1633 nah, thats clive

[@hurricanemk8dx]

11:02 HOLY CRAP, thank GOD someone else noticed this. As I was going through the battle, I was super upset when 5 of her Pokémon are weak to a starter. I really don't know what they were thinking with Geeta. Arven gave me much more trouble, and they directly state that he's "bad at Pokémon battles".

[@BJGvideos]

Honestly I think the notion of Arven being a bad battler comes from Arven's pathetically low self esteem.

[@ilieschamkar6767]

not to mention, if you use that move that power up his special attack, you'll just spam A

[@hurricanemk8dx]

@@BJGvideos that makes a lot more sense lmao. The only battle I lost in Scar/Vi was the endgame battle vs. Arven.

[@hurricanemk8dx]

@@ilieschamkar6767 that's exactly what I did until for some reason I didn't think Skeledirge could take down Veluza lol

[@Clover298]

I mean he beats Geeta in the postgame so idk about that

[@Chelly_Smelly]

Arvens team gave me more trouble than Geetas did...I barley survived 😅

[@pug8714]

I am still surprised people struggled against him

[@RiverWilliamson]

I lost at first because I wasn't expecting a fight (silly me), and because his team is pretty good. I annihilated him right after, tho because I brought my battle team instead of my exploring team

[@seventhest]

@@pug8714 most people struggled because he was level 60 when you’d be level 45-50 after completing path of legends

[@TechnoArpan]

@@pug8714 Same, most trouble in order for me were prof battle(not knowing types), Nemona battle and Clavell battle

[@SillyRyemoment]

I haven’t even Gotten to Geeta!

[@igorlopes8463]

Honestly, I haven't seen a glimora by the time Geeta showed up, so my first thought was that her hair resembles malamar. If looking like glimmora is the reason her ace is one, they should've changed her design. Imo She should open with palafin and her AI be set to use flip turn turn 1 (2 if the move fails) and send out glimmora. This way, palafin would be back in his hero form and glimmora might be able to set one layer of toxic spikes. The ace should be kimgambit, she would terastalize it and it would lose the 4x weakness to fighting. As for the rest, maybe gholdengo, arboliva and armarouge if Scarlet or ceruledge if Violet.

[@alfaux18]

I agree with basicly all you said except one thing : arboliva. Arboliva is a pretty weak pokemon and her only role is to set grass field wich is more likely to help the player than Geeta herself. In fact I think she should have a rabsca. Rabsca is used by literally NONE of the important trainers and have revival blessing. that could be a good way to show the power of that new move. (and also show that this pokemon can learn this move too)

[@igorlopes8463]

@@alfaux18 I pikced arboliva randomly, tbh, I have no idea what that does

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

@@alfaux18 Revival Blessing would buff Kingambit too. But, alas, we all know Game Freak is too lazy to figure out how to code an AI to manage revival mechanics

[@AlphaFX-kv4ud]

The reason you hadn't seen glimmora is that it only spawns in area zero and it's preevolution is only rarely found in one cave outside of area zero

[@tristancummings5925]

@@alfaux18 Arboliva is a very strong pokemon when it gets going, but the moves that Geeta had specifically is just not very good.

[@marvin7738]

She really is something. She has the charisma of a Bruxish, the uniqueness of a Simisear, the nerve... she really had the nerve to use that table avalugg, and the talent... is there, you just have to find it.

[@mariothane8754]

You have to look really hard to find that talent.

[@gonsad]

there is no talent, she is just a cun

[@Takapon218]

💀💀💀 mAAM

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I mean literally the only redeeming qualities of her team are that Baxcalibur is okay, and Kingambit gets as REASONABLY good power boost, assuming it doesn't instantly die. Glimmora is terrible outside of a hazard stooge, and goddamn Gogoat, Avalugg, and Veluza. Look out, Bird Keeper Lance is here to take heads, Literal Who Hau is here to clap cheeks, Diantha in shambles, as her reign as worst champ ends.

[@marvin7738]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 not Diantha in shambles 😭💀

[@owenwildish331]

It's occurred to me that if there was a particular in-game reason that Geeta had an Avalugg on her team, then it maybe should have been a Hisuian Avalugg, the only one in the game, as a surprise, in keeping with and as a hint to the Time-Travel aspect of Pokemon Scarlet & Violet, if that makes any sense, hmm?

[@pyrex-fission]

That’s what I was thinking too. What if instead of a Gogoat she was meant to have a Wyrdeer? And instead of Veluza she was meant to have Basculegion? 😮

[@robertanderson4921]

That actually would have been a really cool thing to have in the game.

[@lungilungo9734]

She’s probably the only champion that doesn’t make people invest in her. Cynthia for example has likes and interests we learn in the games, she loves exploring ruins and ice cream. Hell even Leon was interesting just for being the youngest champion next to Blue/Red and that he was present throughout so much of swsh. All of the champions were involved somewhat in the stories and we got to know them before we inevitably fought them for their position.

[@robertanderson4921]

She's also one of the only champions that you don't need to prepare for. In DPPt, you dread the fight against the Garchomp and will tend to make sure you have an answer before the fight. In RBY, you know your rival's starter and you want someone to beat that. I didn't have any special prep for Geeta and wiped her easily.

[@fg009letyrds8]

Yeah, Blue being the Overzealous Ahole Rival, Steven being the Rich Cool Guy who loves hiking and Rocks, Cynthia being a History nerd, Alder being the Cool Old man, Iris being the young inexperienced Dragon champion, Leon being presented as the final goal of the Protagonist from the start. Man, Geeta is literally on the same level as Diantha in terms of characterization, probably Lance too.

[@requiem6465]

​@@fg009letyrds8at least gold/silver gave lance some agency with the lake of rage incident.

[@aidenlosee]

She might have suddenly been worried about you making your way all the way there. She has said several times that she is surprised that someone had made it this far. She might be silently panicking about how she is supposed to be the strongest, when you show up and sweep all her workers (gym leaders). She might be acting confident while silently panicking, so she forgets her OG team order, to basically throw things at you to see if your pokemon will go down.

[@williamspaulding8129]

so instead of panicking about what team comp she should battle with, she just says "fuck it, random bullshit go!"

[@paperhatinc5641]

What's weird is that Greeta's whole team COULD have had story reasons. As strange as Gogoat is as a random pick- it's a ride pokemon. Great for trotting across grassy plains or rocky hills. Avalugg would be able to trug it's way through ice and snow covered lanscapes. Veluza could cut through water. Espathra can bolt quickly over sand dunes. Glimmora can scout out dangerous or dim areas and caves ahead of the team. Only Kingambit dosin't fit in this roles, but is a great last resort if the others go down. This is a team of pokemon for traversing the vast landscape and varying biomes of Paldea, which the Champion would use to get around without an all-in-one motorcycle.

[@MrZodiark]

if she had Glimmora as her first pokemon, with stealth rock, energy ball, sludge wave and power gem and give it a focus sash so you have to hit it twice, i would be actually worried.

[@Fablelord1]

I read a theory on reddit I really enjoyed. The Pokemon league is nothing like other pokemon leagues in other areas. Nemona is specifically a Champion ranked trainer. The gyms have tests instead of making you solve puzzles and barreling through other trainers.The league is in connection with the school and it's expected for most people to be involved with it. The pokemon league is more of a licensing process than it is a chance to declare you're the best. Nemona and Geeta don't stop being champion when you beat them. There's just now a 3rd Champion trainer in Paldea. Geeta doesn't give up her seat on the league once you beat her unlike other champions. The game also makes it clear that most trainers make it past the 3rd gym. Maybe Geeta has fallen to pieces because of the lack of challenge.

[@RiverWilliamson]

This was my read

[@spin3625]

And then galar saying not many make it past fire gym lol

[@TechnoArpan]

The game says most trainers don't make it past, actually

[@jakoblent4694]

Galar takes the gym challenges more seriously considering its all held in massive arenas for the people to see@@spin3625

[@Matias-fh2hf]

I do feel like Geeta is holding back,or at least isn't at her full potential,there's no way nobody looked at her team and thought that it was extremely strong

[@sidecharacter7165]

Well Nemona thought she was easy too so….

[@radiantduality8366]

She said she was “utterly incapable of holding back during a battle.” That means she was going all out, all cards on the table.

[@MouldMadeMind]

​@@radiantduality8366 oh she said it, then it must be true.

[@mlpfanboy1701]

@@radiantduality8366yesterday we got conformation she was lying.

[@StyginDawn]

​@@mlpfanboy1701exactly

[@selfloathinggameing]

I'm gonna defend Geeta's Espathra here for a minute. Opportunist is an AWESOME ability and it tricks a lot of people who try to set up at the beginning of the battle. I used Quiver Dance Frosmoth in my first playthrough, and it pwned me with Dazzling Gleam, meant to cover its Bug and Dark weaknesses. Espathra is 100% the most well thought out member of Geeta's team (which to be fair isn't saying much since quick attack is still a questionable choice) and it tricked a literal WORLD CHAMPION and the self-proclaimed best nuzlocker in the world.

[@sidecharacter7165]

Something like Roar or Clear Smog as a move it could have learned and used after the player buffed would have been hilarious as well.

[@dennysoto1236]

I've said it for months, he'd do randomizers if he was the best nuzlocker. Anyone can match him by just looking at the numbers and fixing encounters in a vanilla game 😂 But yeah, Espathra and Kingambit are the only 2 good pokemon in her team based on how she uses them

[@selfloathinggameing]

@@user-te2zq6tb9k the whole "probably the best nuzlocker" is just an ironic bit he does, it's sort of a carryover from when nuzlockes weren't popular and he was the only person doing them for content. The joke is he was the "best" nuzlocker because nobody else was doing it back then

[@tyrant-den884]

Between the last main rival battle, the Clival and Penny battles, and the true final battle: there is much call for her to be hard. I just wish she didn't close with a Pokémon _made_ to come out first.

[@OlJohnno]

I kind of thought that Gogoat was there as her "transport pokemon", instead of a Cyclizar, which I actually like the idea of, especially if we saw her ride it at one point.

[@RowanTS]

Espathra’s quick attack is to knock off the pokemon hanging on by 1hp due to the affection mechanic.

[@grantflippin7808]

That would be brutal if it ever happens

[@jtwatts7990]

Personally I think she was MEANT to be weak considering your final battle is against the professor. Perhaps in the DLC she'll be frightening in battle. Also a new video idea: A ranking of the Paradox Pokemon would be cool to see if you haven't done that yet

[@cerromeceo]

That's stupid though 😐

[@tyrant-den884]

And she's immediately followed by a harder rival battle anyway.

[@onijester56]

If she heads the match off with Glimmora, then Toxic Debris will likely drop at least one level of spikes. Timer set. Gogoat and Avalugg can manage on their own for a minute, although there are better options. And they'll likely bait out a Fire-type for Veluza to take out; priority-STAB "Aqua Jet" can ruin many a Fire-type...or really just a lot of things. Kingambit as an ace, or even a non-ace, and rip through everything until the inevitable Fighting-type Pokemon comes out. Then Kingambit stalls, as Poison Damage accumulates... Even better if Kingambit tera's into Ghost-type. And then Espathra last, hopefully NOT as an Ace. Knock out the Fighting-type and if necessary "Quick Attack" anything that she knows is low on HP.

[@KingHiki]

The E4 is treated like a final exam so they aren't really trying to destroy you, just see if you worthy of the champion rank. If anything Nemona, Clavell, Penny and Arven are the E4 and Sada/Turo is the champion

[@Dkgow]

@@onijester56 Honestly, this would only be good if they actually had swapping AI like in Emerald Kiazo and such. The fact that move baiting isn't built into the AI is why E4 and Champ usually suck.

[@mangafan589]

I always thought she had gogoat and avalugg to hint a connection to kalos or as a nod to the fact that France and Spain share a border.

[@tyrant-den884]

Great to have a Basque champion, but there's still better mons to use.

[@dennysoto1236]

Avalugg doesn't even spawn near where the border would be. Gogoat I can accept as an "I'm so confident in my power I can have 1 joke slot", but Gogoat AND Avalugg for the same reason? Naaah

[@tyrant-den884]

@@dennysoto1236 that's because GameFreak is still convinced Ice Types are strong enough to repeatedly be used as 7-8 gym leaders.

[@LuminousArc92]

Geeta effectively took 4 mons from other gym leaders from Paldea and Kalos. Espathra and Veluza are used by the psychic and water gym leaders of Paldea and Avalugg was used by Wulfric and Gogoat by the grass leader who's name I don't remember from Kalos Glimora should have been her signature pokemon with Kingambit as her ace, similar to how someone like Iono used Bellibolt as her signature dude but terra Mismagius as the ace

[@LRM12o8]

One little redeeming factor you forgot to mention about her sending out Glimmora last is the fact that you can't encounter this Pokémon in the wild before that battle, which created a brand-new experience for me: I've never had a Champ use a Pokémon on me, I didn't even know existed. That was a really cool surprise, imo. And I lost on my first try to her because I didn't guess Glimmora's typing right and couldn't anticipate the moves it would use. Second try was easy though, tbh.

[@Loldino897]

I actually found glimmet in a cave so had Glimmora as my lead for most if the game I started swearing when she sent hers out last Also during area Zero when they talk about that glimora I turned to my freind and said (They do realise I have had one for most of my journey right?)

[@LRM12o8]

@@Loldino897 what, I thought Glimmet didn't appear outside of Area 0 before you've been there 😳

[@Loldino897]

@@LRM12o8 I found one in the cave under psychic Town (knowing gen 9 it might of been a glitch) currently playing violet so il look again if I find it il say so

[@LRM12o8]

@@Loldino897 Cool, I've seen them there after the main story, but not before. I have a feeling that quite a bunch of Pokémon spawn more frequently or just at all after your party reaches a certain level or you reached certain milestones. I found quite a bunch of Pokémon that I needed for dex completion in the early areas, but didn't see them there when I was at that point in the playthrough. Maybe it's a very rare encounter?

[@BoopaKing]

So you haven't played any of the other games blind is what you're telling me here. Gen 1 - Lance uses Dragonite, which si difficult to find and Blue uses the starter strong against yours Gen 2 - Lance still uses Dragonite, which is difficult to find and Red has... all three Kanto starters. Gen 3 - Beldum is only given to the player by Steven after beating the league and Milotic is only in one other encounter infamous for catching players off-guard, with Feebas unobtainable without a guide, and even then notoriously difficult to evolve. Gen 4 - Gible is in some random cave under the bicycle road and Gabite is hard to train when you find it, and Spiritomb is pretty much impossible to acquire Gen 5 - Volcarona and its pre-evo can only be acquired through out of the way special encounters Gen 6 - Diantha sucks (She has both fossils, but she sucks) Gen 7 - Kukui has the starter strong against yours Gen 8 - Dragapult is only found in raid battles in two specific places Almost every champion has at least one pokemon you haven't seen up to that point in the game, at least through casual gameplay.

[@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv]

She is not only chairwoman of the Pokemon League, but of the Uva/Narrancia Academy as well. She encourages young trainers to realize their potential as trainers with Poppy's Nemona, and the MC. Even praising Penny's talents as techy and hacker for cyber security. Even approving and funding the Ace Academy just for boosting student and professor morale and camaraderie by competing, meeting, and get stronger together. She even helped approved STCs that Director Clavel helped set up post the Team Star storyline. Combined with her routine gym leader check in, & Elite Four handpicking and she is already doing far more for her region than Dianthia could ever had for own. Dianthia literally did nothing to improve, encourage, or boost morale for her region. I respect Geeta never Dianthia. Also while I love him in the manga, anime, and Pokemon Masters, Wallace is arguably a worse Champion than both Geeta and Dianthia due to crippling weakness his entire Team shares to either grass or electric.

[@CloverPandaQ]

This aint about game quality. Its about strength.

[@nessaoku4215]

@@CloverPandaQ🗑️🧠

[@CloverPandaQ]

@@nessaoku4215 TrashBrain? Aigh makes sense.

[@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv]

@@CloverPandaQ I was not talking about game quality, but overall champion quality. Since despite it being a "how strong is character video", Mystic still points out character aspects regardless. However leaving out some key details, that I wanted to address.

[@LycanMOON]

Look it's someone who agrees with me that I have no idea why Wallace is so loved Don't get me wrong I love his adventures counterpart,the way he mentors Ruby is nice,but besides that? Just a water gym leader who has a sister? It feels like they made him champion in emerald for no reason especially since you now have to fight two trainers with water type teams,any electric type can sweep them

[@TheGeekGauntletPodcast]

She is going to get a huge upgrade in the DLC. I dont think she was meant to be the main threat right now.

[@user-vp8nr6xt3f]

Is that a leak or just speculation

[@c0mpu73rguy]

If there is a DLC that is.

[@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv]

Well once Home becomes available, she will likely get a new rematch team featuring Pokemon from other regions like past champion rematches. With the possible DLC it's up in the air if it will affect her team makeup.

[@christopherhernandez4960]

She’s the main villain in the dlc, turning the Pokémon league against you. Watch.

[@sparkypikachu7776]

Proof? Since ya clearly know this for fact

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

I see a lot of people claiming she's intentionally weak due to where she is in the story, but the issue with that lies in the academy tournament. If there was ever a time for her to optimize her team, it would be then, but she doesn't. It's the exact same team at a slightly higher level. It's literally the only team she has. She isn't holding back, just like she said...

[@RancorSnp]

But she still is intentionally weak due to where she is in the story. She's not holding back due to lore, though of course GF may decide to make it so in the DLC. She's mechanically weak because there's still 2 hours of the game left after you battle her

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

@RancorSnp yes, but the Academy Tournament is post-game, and the only change to her team is a slight level increase.

[@cesar6447]

@@RancorSnp But her combat its the most important combat, it doesnt matter if she has to deal with 1 hour or 100 hours of after game. And yet it doesnt make sense since Lance isnt such an easy champion even tho you have another region to play in SS HG

[@RancorSnp]

@@cesar6447 No, her combat is not the most important combat. She is about as important as the last trainer on the victory road in previous games. The actual champion fight of this game is against the AI Edit : Also Lance is like level 50 and uses 3 of the same Pokémon, really not the best example ^^'

[@cesar6447]

@@RancorSnp Dragonite is the only dragon type on that generation. And don't you think it's at least better than most of Geeta team? And the AI is basically the leader of the villain team

[@starkid910]

Damn… I didn’t realize just how little of an impression her team left on me. The only one I could’ve told you was on her team before you went over it was Glimmora

[@pikachuyip1478]

Geeta’s Team is based on the Area’s of Paldea but her team needs some reworking.

[@MarcusMapua]

A lot of people were happy that they brought back Gogoat to the games after so long, in which I guess that is why they have Geeta's Gogoat. Most of Geeta's Paldea Pokemon besides her Glimmora belong to other significant paldea region trainers as either part of their roster or are their aces: Espathra & Tulip, Veluza & Kofu, and Giacomo's Partner pokemon Pawniard being now a Kingambit. So if anything: Glimmora, Gogoat, & Avalugg are practically her own

[@Kilava1231]

I made sure I knew nothing about the champion before fighting her. I was underleveled just slightly going in. Which is a first in a long time. I had my kilowattrel out in front and colt switched into my Lokix as I expected her to use a strong psychic type move. I was right. That was a rush as I don’t usually have those higher end strats. The rest of the match was great. I felt challenged but confident I could win. I was very happy with how much more difficult this game was for me

[@MrAppleSalad]

Every single member of the Elite 4 gave me *way* more trouble then Geeta. In fact I struggled quite a bit with this Elite 4, and was kinda scared going into the champion, only to end up not even using my whole team to beat her

[@bromicorn]

Imagine having a spike setter for a last pokemon instead of the pokemon that benefits you when you put it in last

[@nintendolife25]

Seriously, what were the staff thinking? Geeta easily could have been one of the tougher champions if she switched Kingambit and Glimmora's positions.

[@vronji]

@@nintendolife25 She'd be even better if Glimmora was first and Kingambit was last, then she'd prove at least a decent threat.

[@TechnoArpan]

@@vronji give kingambit a ghost tera and she'd be even tougher

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

@@nintendolife25 Fr, makes no sense to me. Did some poor overworked employee have a massive brain fart and messed up her team or what

[@ninja9567]

The main thing for me is that she has so much great potential with her Pokémon that are just plain squandered in their roles. I’d be more terrified of Glimmora if she led with it, and if it had Stealth Rock. And if she had better mons from Kalos like Talonflame instead of Gogoat and Avalugg, and Kingambit as her ace with Tera Ghost or Flying, I’d be much more terrified.

[@MyOverlord101]

I remember having more trouble with the Elite Four than I did with her, especially against the Dragon Elite Four member. I may not be great at team building in Pokemon, but even I was confused with the team she had going for her. Interesting choices, sure, but that isn't enough to make the choices good.

[@historicalrat6055]

Personally what I think killed many top-tier trainers, not just Geeta, was the use of single-typed Pokémon. It’s fine to use Pokémon with single types sometimes, but when they’re all fairly average and show up as half of your team, it doesn’t end well. Plus, Veluza and Espathra shared the Psychic type, giving even less justification for all of the single-types. I think they could’ve given both Geeta and Nemona better teams, they didn’t have to make Geeta bad so Nemona would be more memorable, they could’ve just made both teams better and kept the level difference, I believe that would’ve made Nemona more memorable still.

[@RaynmanPlays]

Each of Geeta's Pokemon is meant to represent one of the areas of Paldea. While there would certainly be better options for most of them, now you know why some of the Pokemon were there. And this is why Glimmora, who represents Area Zero, is last in spite of its ability.

[@JB-qu8pv]

Doesn’t really matter when the battle was so easy

[@bubblegodanimation4915]

You can still represent them in a good order.

[@eljordinio7647]

Glimmora is better off as a support or set up pokemon. Kingambit can hit harder

[@nathanblackburn1193]

Also Geeta represents the Rock type of the titan pokemon types that the elite four use Ground, Steel, Flying and Dragon

[@bubblegodanimation4915]

@@nathanblackburn1193 Huh. I did not realize that. How did you figure that out?

[@MidnightLucario1]

As people have said, her team's flaw is more so on placement. I say if they're so insistent on Glimmora being her ace, then have her be a rare breed of trainer where her Ace is the lead pokemon, like Guzma. Then change it's Tera type to poison just to make it more defensive. Replace Sludge Wave with Power Gem, and Dazzling Gleam with Energy Ball. Then make her use Kingambit last. Not as her ace pokemon, cause that's Glimmora at the lead, but as let's say her final line of defense. And for that mon, replace Stone Edge with Sucker Punch. I will say this about Geeta, you have to admit that the fact she's the top Champion and was the reason not many have achieved Champion Rank with such a team of mid pokemon, says a lot about her own skill lore wise. Most other champion would use super strong pokemon, but Geeta's proven she doesn't need to. So take that as you will.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Tera Blast with Power Gem given it's the same base power and more PP. Sludge Wave is also stronger than Tera Blast. Honestly a different Tera type would've been better if she wanted to use Tera Blast on the set. Something like Fairy or Dark could've been neat. Dazzling Gleam does provide an answer to Fighting types to be fair though Energy Ball covers Water and Ground types and Sludge Wave would do good damage against Fighting types not resistant or immune to the move. Also keep in mind that regardless of Tera type, the Pokemon retains STAB on its original typed moves.

[@X525Crossfire]

That, or the trainers in Paldea are of subpar quality.

[@Poetic_Justice92]

@@X525Crossfire That's my thought process. The Academy isn't teaching their students well if very few have beaten Geeta. 😂

[@TechnoArpan]

@@X525Crossfire Eh, nothing in the lore really suggests that

[@azjei]

She actually gave me a lot of trouble because of her lead. Espathra's Opportunist and Lumina Crash really caught me off guard. Espathra is already fast and has a high special attack and can harshly lower special defense with Lumina Crash, my mistake was I tried to set up Agility in the first turn not knowing its ability. After taking down my first Pokemon, she outsped my next 3 before I was able to take it down. I would say Espathra is actually the best lead since players tend to set up first before attacking, unfortunately for me because Speed is so important in battle. Although I have to agree, after I took down Espathra, the next ones are quite easy.

[@JoseDorda]

Gogoat is there as reference to the iberian ibex, a especies of wild goat that only exist in spain and portugal, Verluza is also a reference to spain because merluza is a fish commonly consume in spain, espathra may also bore elements from the mantilha in its feathers.

[@kaerftats666]

Is she indian though? Her name is a pretty common name in India and is derived from Indian holy scripture "bhagwad geeta" + her skin skin color is also brown Pokemon has been including many Indian characters lately Is an India based region next? Would love to hear your take on this

[@justawanderer9345]

Going to say it will probably be China, given the Ruinous pokemon being of Chinese mythos, and major companies pandering to them for Chinese market penetration

[@kaerftats666]

@@justawanderer9345 yeah it may be a probability too

[@xvm-fzc]

Probably a relative of Chairman Rose

[@tyrant-den884]

@@justawanderer9345 I appreciate the compulsion to, but I just cannot advise it. The way things are right now, there'd be too big a risk of pissing off China setting a game there. Meanwhile there is a enough shared culture in India: if they play their cards right, Gamefreak could have and eat cake setting a game there.

[@TechnoArpan]

There is a chance, since Cufant and Copperajah are based on the Indian Elephant

[@flacidpancake7414]

Something is off abt her

[@Halfbad-bf1lt]

I think part of it is how different to previous champion characters she is; like how some of the gym leaders don’t like her. She also has a less relevant role to the story than past champions; in previous games the champ would turn up occasionally and help deal with the villain team, give you hints or point you in the direction of legendary. Greta doesn’t really do anything other than comment on your progress when she turns up, whereas past champs were set up as kinda peacekeeper figures in their own regions

[@ice8erg]

Eri tougher lol

[@MrArielK]

The suit throws me off

[@_george_jorge2067]

@@ice8erg omg Eri is the only character I had a tough time with! She's really strong!!!

[@davidragan9233]

Felt like just another battle to me as well. Supreme Overloard and Sucker Punch would make that more of a threat, maybe a Psychic Priority move too?

[@KOtpcf11]

Another thing I think should've added was the Trading Cards from sw/sh it was fun to customize and collect them

[@MaestroMusicInc]

Yeah I didn’t even know what team she had and still easily beat her. Hopefully the DLC will bring her back with a worthy team. By the way, could you do a video on the set/shift battle style? I felt like all the battles were easy knowing what was coming up next

[@aqua6166]

im not disappointed because i expected the next champion and whole gym challenge to be more laid back then galar and to be less of a competitive sport challenge and more a fun journey which is what it is!

[@Swordhand1]

Geeta's team looks like what you end up taking to the E4 in a nuzlock because all of your other Pokemon "died"

[@TechnoArpan]

Or something based on Karen's quote from gen 2 about using your favorites

[@ingridwolfe7016]

I shared thoughts on the team composition when I fought her. My only contradiction is that her Avalugg actually gave me the most trouble. Mostly based on the way I play every new game for the first time, I didn't really care about my team composition and ended up with mostly physical attackers. Honestly though, I one-shot everything else she had.

[@Zistheone2]

I saw another video saying the Geeta's team is based on the various areas/biomes of Paldea, and looking at it I think that makes the most sense: Espathra- Desert Gogoat- Hills & Fields Veluza- Oceans & Beaches Avalugg- Glaceado Mountain Kingambit- The Bamboo Forest Glimmora- Caves & Area Zero (also probably why she uses it last) It works on paper, but I think they could've used a few different pokemon to reflect each biome

[@zerokura]

Same I think it was lockin or maybe a different poketuber a good idea.

[@sparkypikachu7776]

Yeah! Honestly she wouldn't even have to use them in order, maybe like a reference to how u can go anywhere (barring AZ) could work tho

[@emawerna]

She should have put Glimmora first and Kingambit last. What else should she have used? Probably still Espathra because it matches her style in my mind. I would have gone: Dondozo in place of Veluza, Cetitan or Baxcalibur for the Mountain, and the opposite version's evolution of Charcadet for the Fields.

[@Dkgow]

@@emawerna But leave the Rock Tera for Kingambit? This ultimately still needs to be discussed since the game is based around that gambit. Can't do Dondozo since it was was for the "Main" main story with the Titans. It would be cool if she had the Psudo on her team, and YES why did they not give someone Charcadet's evo to make it more worth wild in game. Maybe even do opposite form based on game.

[@emawerna]

​@@Dkgow Yes, leave the rock tera for Kingambit, and she should use it. The problem with replacing Veluza is that there aren't that many new suitable water types. Tatsugiri shares the same issue you brought up. Wugtrio would be worse than Veluza. Geeta would have to swap out and back in to use Palafin correctly, and GameFreak aren't having the trainers do that much/if at all in this game. If I had developed the game, I would make Basculegion obtainable in the game but have Geeta be the only trainer with one. Any opportunity to market Legends Arceus should be taken.

[@daydreamer2257]

I heard the theory that her team is based around all the biomes of Paldea, so thats the reason why she has a mixed and weird team

[@eljordinio7647]

Still there r better options. Put in Cetitan for the icy mountains and then one of the Paldean grass types for the highlands

[@zacmayes2802]

@@eljordinio7647 Arboliva would've been better lol

[@eljordinio7647]

@@zacmayes2802 exactly

[@FixingTTG]

@MysticUmbreon, I wanted to ask your opinion on something. When I saw this video, it never totally left my mind, until I found out why. Considering that part of your job is min-maxing so that Pokemon teams are the best, I think I've come up with the optimal team for her, or at least much better than her actual team. It's even almost the same typing wise. Kilowattrel: Hurricane, discharge, volt switch, agility. (modest nature with magnet) Leafeon: Leaf blade, body slam, dig, X-scissor. (adamant nature with assault vest) Palafin: Wave crash, acrobatics, close combat, blizzard. (naive nature with sitrus berry/life orb) Baxcaliber: Icicle crash, dragon tail, crunch, giga impact. (adamant nature with life orb) Kingambit: Iron head, night slash, stone edge, X-scissor. (adamant nature with wide lens) Glimmora: Tera blast, sludge wave, stealth rocks, spiky shield (calm nature with leftovers) What do you think? Based on your champions ranking list, I'd say Geeta with this team is weakest on par with Leon to as strong as Blue/Gary, maybe Cynthia with her original d/p team.

[@riumainu2768]

Nemona fonal fight is also a champion fight... probably more than Greta. Will be nice to see a video analysing her too! :D

[@nishant9289]

I'd say, she's overhated. The Game just gives you too many powerful Pokemon (looking at you, Palafin and Skeledigre) which is why most players find her easy. But if you carefully look at her team, she has three solid OU picks being Glimmora, Kingambit and Espathra. Literally half her team. It's the latter half that is somewhat questionable. Interestingly, all of her Pokemon can be dangerous on their own (as I saw in a Video), like: Espathra's hidden ability is Speed Boost, and it can learn calm mind and STORED POWER. So... Veluza is a hit or miss with fillet away. The fact that Espathra can set up screens can make Veluza a threatening sweeper. Avalugg → Tera Fighting → Curse → Body Press → GG (Tera Water, Ground and Poison are also good picks for defensive playstyle) Gogoat can learn Bulk Up and Horn leech. It's ability is Sap Sipper. Tera Water makes Gogoat really terrifying because it has only one weakness. Even Tera Ground is a good option. If it has +SpD nature, this thing can surprisingly become a good sweeper. And I don't think I need to elaborate how good Kingambit and Glimmora are, especially the former with terastralisation to remove its quad weakness. So what's actually wrong? She seems to be intentionally holding back because she wants the newer generation to stand up and handle paldea as it'll eventually be more competent than the older one, except that she wants it to happen really quick. Or maybe the popular villain theories be a reason for her holding herself back.

[@ashelygordon669]

I personally really appreciate this comment and I wholeheartedly agree despite the fact it isn’t going to change people’s opinions on Geeta; it’s true that she is overhated and half of her respective is very questionable but the biggest problem aside using them properly is the ordering; there are valid points about fighting types and Nemona, she’s not the best but isn’t terrible!!!!

[@snokespraetorianguard]

She's definitely gonna be really difficult if a DLC for SV will happen

[@monst3r_child832]

personally i had very minor difficulty on geeta, but only because i planned poorly and didnt have enough healing items, even as a poison type specialist, my only issues were that my pokemon were slightly underlevelled so if i had the wrong one out it would get one shot before i could do any damage, but a healthy amount of revival herbs fixed that issue, granted i left the pokemon league for last cuz i wanted to experience everything else, i had more trouble with the leaders of team star than i did with geeta

[@rhyperiorhunter7339]

Here's my proposed new team Kingambit as her ace so it would come out last and get the full boost from all of her fainted pokemon Palafin as a lead that immediately uses flip turn, this would act as Kingambits's body guard weeding out it's threats in a similar vain to Cynthia's Lucario Next would be Gargancl as an all around tank and salt cure Then Rabsca soley for revival blessing Then either armourouge or ceruledge as a good fire type And finally glimmora to come out after palafin

[@arachineatzeer7478]

Why do I get the feeling Geeta's team as Top Champion isn't what she'd normally use? (Apart from her Glimmora) If she was to use her team well and properly she could be a much bigger threat, Especially if Kingambit was last with Supreme Overlord. If this feeling of mine is right I hope we can see her use what she actually wants to use in battle against us in the future, maybe as a DLC fight or an update lets us challenge her directly

[@tyrant-den884]

So long as she puts Glimmora in the front of her team instead of the back.

[@MidnightLucario1]

She said herself she's incapable of holding back in battles. Meaning she's always going out at full strength, and since this is her team, that means it's her full strength

[@sparkypikachu7776]

@@MidnightLucario1 seriously, y can ppl not accept that her team is just not that good & probably won't be. Maybe in DLC but like what exactly did sw/sh do for Leon in DLC? not much? Could be wrong tho

[@emawerna]

Maybe her team is purposefully out of order to represent that Geeta is out of practice. She is sending new champions to examine the gym leaders instead of herself.

[@MidnightLucario1]

@@emawerna Well she only did that for you, and even then only did it to lighten her workload for the day to finish faster and attend the Ace Tournament

[@marcosfernandes8944]

Quick Attack has some uses because it is a priority attack, ideal to finish low healh oponents

[@ShiningJudgment666]

It can overcome Focus Sash/Sturdy cheese strats.

[@CaptainObliviousV]

It’s kind of upsetting how he completely missed the point of Espathra. An anti-setup lead. Didn’t even bother to mention Opportunist.

[@TechnoArpan]

yeah, i actually died to Nemona's Lycanrock's accelerock and pawmot's quick attack

[@CraftingMenace]

I feel like the reason the she's secretly evil theories have arose has literally nothing to do with her team. It's the fact that it's heavily foreshadowed, through dialog. I always think back to the specific wording of her "strongarming" every elite four member into joining, and how many gym leaders don't like her. The gym leaders not liking her especially hits me as foreshadowing, considering while in real life it's simple to imagine people not liking others, having a multitude of people not like someone in a story-especially one like pokemon who's historically not been the most subtle-seem suspicious and like they're up to something.

[@GarryDKing]

Sadly I did discover that Geeta's Glimmora was in fact the perfect counter for my entire team, since only one of my pokemon weren't weak to one of her stab moves, and sadly for me it has ground coverage xp..... i only realized this during the ace tourney though and figured my first battle against her was just lucky...

[@shorewall]

This is a game where having the Rival become the Champion and be your last fight would have made way more sense. I mean, Nemona is your final fight anyway, and that fight feels way more important than Geeta's. Plus how they tell you that Nemona toyed with Geeta in their fight. So why have her still be the champion, if we know that there is a way better trainer just stalking you around Paldea? :D I think the Pokemon league setup in Scarlet/Violet was interesting (where Champion is a title that more than one person can have), but they botched the Champion, which made the whole thing fall flat. And it trivializes beating the Pokemon League.

[@andromeda232]

Hi Mystic maybe you could make a video giving Geeta a better team? Hopefully there will be improvement in the DLC

[@drunkenpumpkins7401]

- Annialape as lead, general bulky set with ragefist - Cerulegde/Armorouge (would be fun if you see the opposite of the version exclusive)) - klefki with T-wave and calm mind on priority, or maybe swagger/t-wave on priority) - Kinggabit (with bulky set) - Hawlucha (with swords dance set) - Glimmora as ace. First thing I'd think of while keeping her theme of having 2 Kalos and rest gen 9 Pokemon.

[@hollyswoods]

I do like that she uses a lot of Pokemon that you see a lot throughout your journey almost saying that she's gone on the same journey too.

[@harryh4h720]

Another problem is how much trouble the elite 4 gives compared to her like Rika was tough for me poppy was much easier but that's due to me having multiple good matchups,Larry I had to plan proper for,and tnh forget dragon guys name but his ace kept one shotting my team and I didn't want to lose to level up so I used saved candies so my team can get to shotted by him but with planning it was possible the Geeta was a sweep

[@tylertalley7198]

Geeta was easy but in all honesty it felt realistic kinda. Like in paldea’s Pokémon league, their are multiple champions as we know and she is just the top one. Now by what we can collect by the information the game gives us Nemona has beat her, which means you can beat the top champion without becoming the top champion. So Geeta’s team just being kinda random Pokémon that are all decent Pokémon, it could be that she is just the best trainer that won the league, and wanted to be “Top” champion and be in charge of running the league and such. If you(as the protagonist) or Nemona or any other champions wanted to battle her for her job and the title they could and then take on the responsibilities that came with it. But any of the champions that are stronger than Geeta in paldea are out exploring the region and other regions or doing their own thing rather than strapped to running the league. Just my possible thought process.

[@ROBHAVOC]

Geeta, nemona and the player character are the only ones who take battling seriously in paldea so she really doesn’t even have to go all out even if she says she is doing so lol

[@the.gamer.558]

Would be an interesting video to see a rework of her team

[@drewgarcia117]

If you wanna kind of keep the themes of the different areas of the region, or keep the same typing, you'd be far better off switching Avalugg for Cetitan, Veluza for Dondozo or Palafin, and Gogoat for Arboliva. She could easily have a very interesting trick room team and just stomp you with her much slower Pokemon that way.

[@jaredtheastralartist2510]

Considering she’s not the final boss of the game, I’m fine if she’s a little bit easy. I actually found her quite challenging but that’s just me. Her team is actually really good. If you don’t take care of them quickly, they can really screw you over. Like espathra, king gambit, avulug, and gogoat. I don’t like how she is much more of a unique take on the Champion given how strict she runs the whole league. It’s also interesting because she’s the chair woman and made herself the champion by default. Plus she’s more uses a vessel, to boost up Nemona, who the gym challenge storyline revolves around. And while she may be lacking a bit in characterization, she might get a little bit more extra personality with the DLC coming. Similar to what they did with Cynthia in platinum. Overall, I think Geeta is a pretty solid and unique champ. She is not as good as Leon or Cynthia. But she’s also not incredibly bad.

[@raccoonmyroom6861]

Give Geeta a break. She is just overworked. She threw the champion fight just so you could perform her duties as champion. I think she's just on the decline.

[@ChaoticTeen16]

"I am absolutely incapable of holding back in a battle." - Geeta. Your argument is invalid.

[@magnus5747]

But our character still isn't the top champion, Geeta still is. She could've send Nemona to do her duties because she was already champion.

[@gioanysgonzalez3396]

“Geeta’s overworked”? That’s a funny way to spell Larry.

[@GrantFireType]

And yet we still did her champion duties for her

[@carnelianfox5010]

Yeah she’s got major burnout. Unlike me, she handles it like a queen

[@jaidora]

I can still see this team work with a few changes but two of them have to be swapped out. First off, every champion should have their Pokémon equipped with a held item; champions are the final bosses in Pokémon so they should be equipped with held items to keep the players on their toes. Sending Glimmora out first with a red card or eject button is a good open strategy, Gogoat with life orb and trail blaze can work out in gaining momentum, Espathra is just fine, and Kingambit really should’ve just been her ace with a ghost Tera type to throw the players on a loop. Veluza can be swapped out for a water type Tauros and Avalugg can be replaced with an assault vest Abomasnow.

[@bmont170]

My biggest problem with Geeta is how she uses her Ace Pokemon Glimmora. She should’ve made it her lead off Pokemon with its ability to drop toxic spikes every time it got hit instead of at the end of the battle

[@TaoScribble]

I haven't played the game, but with a character like Larry, and the fact that Geeta isn't really liked by her employees in-universe, I have to wonder if those at GameFreak are airing some grievances. Bets on Geeta's team being loaded with 'strange' decisions (for a champion) for a reason. Seriously. The more I hear about her team, the more it sounds like someone that doesn't know enough about what they're doing for the position they have. Either that or someone that's out of touch. Like your grandma (or a really little kid) that never played "the poke-e-mans" before, so you let her run around on your post-game file. XD

[@shinypixelgon]

I think the dlc will reveal more about Geeta.

[@patrickzalatoris3206]

DLC usually helps improve the game, I'm more excited to see new legendary paldea varients

[@patrickzalatoris3206]

Oh man, if we also get new legends game like a celebii theory, having kanto and johto as one whole region, and get new variants of pokemon

[@the.s3wers]

Honestly if anything I more respect her for not being afraid to use those low base stat total mons (and Avalugg). There are two things I think are possible: 1. She could just be lacking, and maybe there's a possibility that she will have a quad as difficult battle in the DLC. 2. She may have just wanted to try and draw out the full potential in a weak pokemon like how trainers in the anime do (that's a bellsprout reference btw)

[@tpfoxCastro]

What is the problem of a very slow pokemon like avalugg having a very strong move with decreased priority? It would still attack after the opponent even if the move didn't have decreased priority

[@zackmick]

I personally think diantha a new Geeta are both very strong champions the the problem is the Npc always makes them make dumb moves even when they have a clear opening

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Diantha's problem is also the hand-holding in X and Y.

[@GamingG4276]

If you ranked all the champions from weakest to strongest, I think she would easily be in the top 5 worst. Maybe even top 3, although even she is not that bad as Trace in my opinion.

[@bidoof367]

is traces team really weak i thought it was more or less a repeat of blue unless you just mean like as a character though that doesnt really make him any stronger or weaker

[@TechnoArpan]

@@bidoof367 He has 3 moves on each and switches out Arcanine for Rapidash alongside some other stuff

[@lightcpkhfm2305]

I was hyped about fighting her and only had problems with Kingambit because I have no fight type in my team

[@totod514]

Funnily enough, gogoat was actually the toughest for me to go up against lol. That bulk up went crazy lmao

[@danieldragotti2608]

Her team looks like it was ment to be a stall team. Lead with glimora set up hazards, and slowly grind it out. Veluza with its other ablity to power up blade moves can do damage, the Ostrage counter setup, kingsgambit with sucker punch as cleanup, Add in a Tyranitar for sand set up and you could do work with it. The conspiracy about her are have some merit. Her Ace is found in area zero ams its stated it has some connection with this generations gimik, also has the evil villan walk. And her current team has a them, all her pokemon are toxic or stubborn again that's somting useless for antagonist.

[@danielferrieri7434]

She's Certainly the Hottest Champion, along with Cynthia and Diantha

[@erevanthegamer4141]

Design wise she's certainly my favorite champ. Too bad she's kind of weak and a bit bland.

[@TechnoArpan]

eh, I'd say Leon's hotter than all three of them Do love Diantha tho, close second alongside Steven however, these are just personal opinions

[@smilerat8070]

Espathra also has Opportunist which copies your boosts and quick attack can guarantee a kill and the AI WILL use it. Just worth mentioning.

[@pug8714]

Her first 2 members are the only ones that gave me trouble, and that's only cause my team of pure physical attackers had trouble against reflect and bulk ups followed by constant health Regen. Meaning I couldn't put damage the heal

[@legomagic007_YT]

REDO THIS VIDEO QUICKLY

[@HewleyxAngel]

I will admit I did a Skeledirge sweep against Geeta, like it was kind of a letdown of the fight. I was underleveled going into the E4 and managed to clear it on the first try. I don’t mind the Gen 6 Pokémon showing up on her team, because given that Paldea is based on Spain and Kalos on France, it makes sense given the history between the two. That being said there are way better choices for Kalos mons, and I say this as someone who adores Skiddo/Gogoat. I’m hoping some DLC can give us a better rematch? And if all else fails we’ll see how it goes when I do my Dragons only challenge run next playthrough.

[@SuperTex068]

it would make more sense if kingambit was your ace because it has supreme overlord which is a ability that raises his atk stat by 10% for each pokemon fainted in the team and combining it with tera steel or even tera dark for dual stab, it could sweep a entire team and glimorra (i hope that i pronounced right) being the lead pokemon would make more sense then a actual ace imagine toxic spikes+spikes/rocks+overlord buffed kingambit it would be a awesome combo

[@f3rbus]

I had more trouble facing Rika than I did Geeta and it’s only cuz I didn’t really have a good check for ground types while having several weaknesses to it. Geeta was a breeze comparatively

[@sprousprou]

I had more trouble with the actual toddler than with the champion. What's worse is that in most of the Pokemon games (at least the ones I'm more familiar with) you end up becoming the new champion, whereas in this one you more or less just get an "honorary champion" title. My powerful team destroyed her first try, and all I get is a "good job, you're a decent trainer"

[@TheJadeFist]

She needed to lead with her Glimmora, obviously, but I feel she could/ should have fit a few more new pokemon, especially the Dolphin (Palafin? or what ever it's called) could have been a great include.

[@dannygillmor2337]

It would be a huge help to put Glimora in front and have it be able to switch out somehow

[@geminishope7821]

I do agree that Geeta should have had at least a few stronger picks for her team. Like, I think Palafin would have been a better water type pick for Geeta over Veluza. It seems like a missed opportunity to show off Palafin's Hero form at one of the more "major" story battles. Because if I were to pick a repeated Pokemon for the Champion battle, maybe Cetitan over Avalugg? And my final swap opinion, is Espartha for one of the Charcadet evos. (Maybe varied on which version you're playing.) But yeah, her team could have been a bit more imposing in my honest opinion.