Is Germany's 2. BUNDESLIGA BETTER Than England's CHAMPIONSHIP? 🤔

[@RysFootyParadise]

One point I missed off my notes is the fact that Germany is bigger than England yet has fewer clubs so naturally those clubs will be better supported 😊👍🏾 (somebody else has mentioned that in the comments) …It’s the LAW on KZbin to make pre-season predictions so i have no choice but to share some of mine tomorrow 😈

[@nedflanders8317]

This season, with Hamburg, Cologne, Schalke, Hertha, Düsseldorf, Kaiserslautern, Nürnberg, 2nd Bundesliga will have 4th best attendance of all European football leagues.

[@Daniel-bd9ir]

German fan culture is truly amazing. I’d say the Championship has a higher quality of player due to 💵. Both exciting and the best 2 second tiers in the world.

[@bastyaya]

Heavily doubt the championship has a better football quality

[@Ultras5_]

@@bastyaya I think you are also german, due to your name, but bro our football here really isn’t good in 2nd Bundesliga. It‘s just kicking around hoping to get through on goal, have to be honest there

[@bastyaya]

@@Ultras5_ Can I ask you, on how many championship games you have been?

[@Ultras5_]

@@bastyaya not a single one, besides maybe highlights of playoff games. I don’t even expect them to be good, but our football here isn’t good aswell my team, Sc Paderborn already plays some of the most attractive football in the league, and it‘s not on Bundesliga level

[@morthaug]

2:45 Elversberg plays out of a town with only 13000 inhabitants of which almost 9000 go to games as opposed to Rotherham’s 70000

[@paulhewitt6614]

It's better than the premier League

[@RysFootyParadise]

100%

[@richs8754]

Been following German fussball since attending my first game there whilst on holiday in 2015. First game was at 1FC Kaiserslautern (unfortunately a 0-2 home defeat to Arminia Bielefeld). I now go approx once every 2-3 seasons, although last season saw me make 2 trips as Lautern made it to the Pokal Final, which I wasn't going to miss. Have seen other teams as well, at Regionalliga and Oberliga levels. You should try doing a feature comparing them with our Non-League pyramid.

[@RysFootyParadise]

great idea mate! And what a fantastic club Kaiserslautern are 👍🏽

[@olligo]

It is crazy how many titles second Bundesliga clubs have: Nürnberg 9 league titles 4 Cup Köln 3 league titles 4 Cup Hannover 2 league titles 1 Cup Klautern 4 league titles 2 Cup HSV 6 league titles 3 Cup Karlsruhe 1 league title 2 Cup Fürth 3 league titles Schalke 7 league titles 5 Cup Braunschweig 1 league title Düsseldorf 1 league title 2 Cup Hertha BSC 2 league titles

[@RysFootyParadise]

Impressive 👏🏽 to be fair if you count the early years of football in England, Preston North End, Sunderland, Burnley, Blackburn, etc all won lots 😊

[@olligo]

@@RysFootyParadise Yeah I know, most of the league titles were won before the first Bundesliga season. In Germany they all count as official titles. And a few of these Clubs also won the Bundesliga like HSV, Cologne Kaiserslautern, Braunschweig.I know in England its similar. There are a lots of Teams that are quite irrelevant today, but they were Top Teams in the past.

[@t.h.7969]

3 Clubs have a European Title HSV 2 Magdeburg 1 Schalke 1 And not forget, Magdeburg have 3 league title / 7 Cup title in the first league in the GDR

[@blodarv666]

@@olligo You forgot to mention the international titles. Hamburg won the European Cup plus European Cup winners Cup. Schalke the UEFA Cup. Magdeburg the European Cup winners Cup. Köln & Düsseldorf also played European Cup finals.

[@marcelhalbich9301]

In the Championship you don't have to have a good season. It's enough to finish at 6th if your team is running hot during the Playoffs you get promoted to the Premier League. Which seems a bit odd to me. In the 2. Bundesliga on the other hand the team has to finish 3rd. Then they'll get the chance to get promoted. And it does happen... best example Union Berlin. The kicked Stuttgart out off the Bundesliga. So there is a chance... you have to make the best out of it. I think over all the quality in the Bundesligas is more equal due to the fewer clubs. Which is quite obvious. 36 teams are naturally closer together than 44. And what's that thing about the old saying... "All killer, no filler" ;)

[@aidygooner]

In my opinion it's more exciting to have a semifinal stage in the playoffs. It's not like 6th place is mid table which would reward mediocrity which happens in the Netherlands (NAC Breda turned into peak Brazil in the playoffs despite being very poor) and Italy where there's a quarterfinal round.

[@Jipnag]

My friend was a Lincoln city supporter and he also had a massive love for fc Schalke and used to go quite a lot. He sadly passed away two years ago. Great channel and loving the Geman football coverage

[@RysFootyParadise]

Appreciate the kind words!

[@Tube_Irie]

Great Job!

[@MrRubberduck83]

Have only just started following german football after randomly buying my father in law a hannover shirt last year so looking forward to seeing more german football on the channel

[@RysFootyParadise]

I’m gonna be covering just English & German leagues going forward (possibly Scottish but there’s lots of people doing that already)

[@MrRubberduck83]

@@RysFootyParadise good man

[@TheLosty]

​@@RysFootyParadise It's only a matter of time until you become a full fledged german.. my mission to convert you has already started

[@LucaVierSieben]

Wunderschönes Trikot 💙🤍

[@ilsekuper3045]

Hi Ry, stumbled over your vlog. Very interesting to get an outside view on our Bundesliga system and the Football enthusiasm in Germany! Well, I think that it is sufficient to only having 18 clubs in each league, Just for the reason not to overload the season for both parties, players and fans. The big sponsors, of course, would like to drive their " horses " far more often to the pitch, only to make money and revenue on their " investments ". People are treated like gladiators, liked and cheered at as long as they perform, but quickly written off and cast in front of the lions ( not the English heraldic ones ). We German fans are very sensitive regarding modern slavery. To my opinion there is an advantage that still almost 80% of the players in the 2nd league are Germans. This provides an enormous potential for national resources. Even, if later they may look for their chances abroad, they will come back with a lot of knowledge and practice to enrich the 1st league. Thus, the Bundestrainer can profit from a talent pool lateron. The best teamplayers often come from less successful clubs, because they can win only as a good team. Unfortunately, many good players get spoiled and feel they deserve the first violin all the time, but forget to listen to the cue of just the drummer. I have been Dortmund fan ever since. 🐝🐝🐝👍

[@RysFootyParadise]

Hey thanks for tuning into the channel and sharing your thoughts 😊👍🏾 The Premier League has gone “too far” with money compromising the beautiful game

[@patrickpatel5527]

Man I love it ! You give off that nostalgic 90s vibe because of the passion. I think your videos remind me of that 90s football journalist James Richardson when he did the Gazzetta Football Italia 😂⚽️👏Gooooooooal Lazio!!! ❤

[@RysFootyParadise]

Oh wow haha I wouldn’t go that far but I’m definitely influenced by 90s vhs tapes like Nick Hancock’s Football Nightmares

[@rotheryberlin7772]

In the german 2nd league are playing 13 german champions, in the first only nine. Five of the nine big stadiums at the EURO was 2nd league stadiums (Hamburg, Berlin, Cologne, Dusseldorf and Gelsenkirchen) At some matchdays have the 2nd league more spectators than the first .

[@RysFootyParadise]

🤩

[@denisprufer5193]

And 2nd Bundesliga had more visitors than first spanish League. 4th from all european leagues

[@danidax1524]

Take a look at the all time table of German Football. The team with the 2nd most league wins is Nürnberg, just behind Bayern München

[@mattv4463]

I’m glad you have a passion for German 🇩🇪 fussball ⚽️ I was born in Bremen! When I was 4 we emigrated to Australia 🇦🇺. I love the bundesliga and of course support SV Werder Bremen ⚽️🏆 looking forward to your videos for the upcoming season! I’ve also supported Manchester United since 1977 when I was 10. I appreciate you doing these videos. Cheers from Matt 🇦🇺

[@RysFootyParadise]

happy days mate, thanks for sharing. So you've got the perfect balance of English/German football but with the glorious Aussie weather! 😁

[@mattv4463]

@@RysFootyParadise check out this years A-league Grand Final game between General Coast Mariners v Melbourne Victory! Check out the pitch invasion at the end. ♥️🏆⚽️

[@mattv4463]

Oops Central Coast Mariners

[@antonhiller8323]

61.000 average atandance in the second league is crazy 🤯

[@farfan97]

Good video, but I dont really get why your are comparing the all time english top flight table to the German Bundesliga table. Because if you wold look at all time german football you would see that Schalke were seven times german champions but every titel came before the start of the Bundesliga. The same situation like winning english titles before 1992, beofre the Premier League had its name and its current style.

[@RysFootyParadise]

Fair points, just trying to show that facts & numbers can be twisted to show one is better than the other 👉🏾 I LOVE THEM BOTH ❤🇩🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@bastyaya]

True thing. Nuremberg still has the second most German champion titles after Bayern, and led the longest period as record champion (until Bayern will pass in the future)!

[@c0nn3]

Beautiful Hertha jersey. Arcor sponsor is wild, they don‘t exist anymore

[@RysFootyParadise]

I went to the Olympiastadion prior to 2006 World Cup so followed them for a bit, poor Arcor - what was their industry?

[@golliday917]

@@RysFootyParadise telecommunications, they were bought by Vodafone

[@mickrose1431]

were in telecommunication business. Arcor was second-largest provider of fixed phone lines in Germany and in ownership of Mannesmann. Later bought out by Vodafone and the brand disappeared. Much fun in Germany!

[@johgu92]

@@c0nn3 that was back when Marcelinho played for them.

[@MythosBetzenberg]

In total, the german 2. Division clubs have won more league titels than the first league clubs, bayern münchen not included.

[@denisprufer5193]

Dont forget the 3 east german titles from Magdeburg

[@tobiasstorch9865]

Great video and respect for your thorough research! Your German is also pretty good! Well done! :) Would be great to welcome you to a home game of Dynamo Dresden. 😁

[@RysFootyParadise]

I will 100% be back in Dresden this season 🤩 will be North around Hamburg/Bremen/Kiel in October. Gelsenkirchen in December and possibly Dresden early 2025 👍🏾

[@sivaramlord9151]

German leagues and their football culture is awesome. I went for a 2nd Bundesliga game with Nurnberg vs St Pauli. I can't speak German, I am only 1.95 m tall, Indian fella, but was so accepted in the stadium despite trying to be a neutral. Had beer and some currywurst with the Nurnberg supporters and later took pics with some St Pauli supporters after the match. Lovely ppl and lovely atmosphere. I understand why Germany won 4 world cups and is a true football nation. They got everything right in football even at the lower leagues

[@RysFootyParadise]

Football is almost perfect over there isn’t it 🤩

[@sivaramlord9151]

@@RysFootyParadise Yes buddy it is. I enjoyed the german fan culture. As long as you love football matches and love drinking beer, you are always welcome in Germany. They are very proud of these 2 and this is a culture that unites the people.

[@samas3417]

gj dude. Both are on top. And to many matches, also PL (handicap). I like the refreshing in Germany (iam a fa of an old club in 2nd tear). Who knows Freiburg, Mainz, Augsburg, Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim....playing a long time in 1st devision. The y are doing better. But still the 2nd ist growing and growing...more and more people like it to see football..everything seems to be fine

[@RysFootyParadise]

both 2. Bundesliga & Championship are FANTASTIC leagues 🤩

[@cruelson]

I like to hear u talking and i subbed. Greetings from Bremen.

[@RysFootyParadise]

Awesome! Thank you! I'm hoping to be at the Werder vs Freiburg game in October :)

[@cruelson]

@@RysFootyParadise Ill watch out for u :)

[@Jeremy_LK]

It is so sad that over 50% of players are from outside a country the league is. If I would rule the world there would be a rule saying that 6 players on pitch hast to be from the same country the league is in (always, not only starting line up).

[@RysFootyParadise]

it's bad that even our 2nd division has ended up like this

[@heldchris]

Nice kit!

[@GlenCooper75]

The difference between Bundesliga 2 and the Championship is the Championship is more physical and teams play more long balls. Bundesliga 2 is more tactical and the passing is better. Look at the German forward Robert Glatzel. He has scored 65 goals in 100 games for Hamburger SV, yet only managed 10 goals in 57 games for Championship Cardiff City. He is a player who likes the ball at his feet, whereas in the Championship having a brute up front to cause problems to defenders with their strength and presense, and who enjoy a battle has been the way many teams go. The same is true for certain midfielders as well. Players like Glatzel, who are good with the ball at their feet and possess a catalogue of skills, often struggle with the physical aspect of games in the Championship. I was looking forward to Tim Walters interesting risk and reward attacking style of football in the Championship this year, but 3 games in it's still work in progress. Tim Walter is finding out first hand It's hard to break down Championship teams that allow you to have possession, whilst they are playing a high-intensity press in midfield, and engage in high physicality. In fairness, the players at his disposal at Hamburger SV had more technical ability than most of the players he currently has in his squad and were all coached to his playing philosophy over a period of 2-3 years. It is goals that win games. Boasting high possession means nothing in the Championship when your team gets bullied in midfield and lacks efficeicny and conviction going forward. I beleive the latter two were also a problem when he managed Hamburger SV.

[@entenigelpfau]

Better or no Better ; how to answer this? The pure Nummer of former Top-Clubs Who play second now? NO! Football has a lot to do with "Fire"! The Capacity of the Stadium, the Supporters, the History, The Standing, the live and Passion. 2. Bundesliga is in Front here ... clearly! Much more nteresting competition!

[@BaSsFrEaK04]

13:18 if You Take England back to the 1920, you have to take Bundesliga back to those times, as well. Schalke won the league 7 times, Nuremberg 9 times. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@peterweiss123]

what you might not know is that football championships were also played in Germany before 1963 ... so if you do it with England, you also could do it with Germany. Thats also the times where clubs like Schalke, Kaiserslautern, Köln or Nürnberg DOMINATED german football

[@clabudda]

I'd pick the German promotion/relegation over the English promotion. As a fan its different for me to see an 2nd tier club fighting other 2nd tier clubs for promotion, which they do all season long in England. But to have seen Union Berlin sercuring their first promotion to the Bundesliga by beatig Bundesliga giants VfB Stuttgart in a promotion/relegation battle feels quite like a more massive achievement and therefor give me more goosebumps.

[@maurice1192s]

really agree, that the english play-offs are much better than our relegation/promotion-system! By the way, love your jersey, pretty decent! HAHOHE Hertha BSC :)

[@RysFootyParadise]

Appreciate it! Had a lovely first time in Germany back in 2006 so grabbed the shirt from the Hertha shop when visiting the Olympiastadion

[@Cortrakx3]

I think both second divisions have their pros and cons. I believe that the absolute top end of the championship is capable of playing better football - we've seen a group of friendlies being played by Leeds this season, they did really well against the 2. Bundesliga teams. However, I think that the 2. Bundesliga is closer together thanks to less teams and stuff - I think the championship ends up having a lot of dead games, those that don't matter at all any longer. 2. Bundesliga fan support is absolutely unbeatable, though. I do agree that promotion playoffs are a way better system than relegation playoffs as they are in germany.

[@20DAVID09]

Since German football fans care about fan / club culture and the history of the sport actually 99% I guess don’t support any type of relegation/ playoff system. 3 teams should go up and 3 down. Those extra matches are only for money reasons and they aren’t needed or fair. A full season should decide on which league you play and not 2 games or even a penalty shootout

[@RysFootyParadise]

@@20DAVID09 I agree but the promotion playoffs are good fun here 🤩

[@skirata3144]

We do have relegation for the third to decide if they get to go up or if they don’t manage it.

[@thetruthisoutthereofficial]

There used to be 20 teams in each Bundesliga and 2.Bundesliga up until late 80s early 90s or so

[@johgu92]

That's not true, it had 20 teams only in 1991/92 when east german teams joined, after that they went back to 18. They had 16 from 1963-65. Thats it.

[@chrisjames5188]

Leeds owners are wanting to expand Elland Rd to 55.000. And based on season ticket waiting lists i think they would in the championship if there not in there long term for sure.

[@upyursmofo]

Im going championship its full of quality, i believe it should be marketed as the (Premeir league 2,) maybe add the top games to MOTD to bolster the saturday show as sometimes half the prem play on sunday/Monday

[@RysFootyParadise]

Would be interesting to see. I hope the championship avoids that though as it’s better than the prem in terms of entertainment 🤩

[@denisprufer5193]

Ry you forgot the East german first divison called "Oberliga"! The 1. FC Magdeburg won 3 times the Championship, 7 times the East german Cup called FDGB Cup and as the only ONE east German Club, ever and Forever, the European Cup against AC Milan in 1974 in Rotterdam with just local player. Even Maradonna was playing against us in our old stadion with Barca. BWG from Magdeburg 💙🤍🤘🏼 Btw: Last season Schalke lost in Magdeburg 3:0 and Hertha 6:4. 🤫

[@RysFootyParadise]

@@denisprufer5193 good point! 😊👍🏾

[@johgu92]

If you count champions from the 1920's, you should also regard the champions from the 2nd Bundesliga before 1963. For example Schalke was 7 times champion between 1934 and 1958, Nürnberg 9 times (1 time in Bundesliga), Hertha 2 times, even Fürth won at least 2 titles...

[@RysFootyParadise]

My bad yes lots of pre-Bundesliga champions in the 2nd division currently 😊👍🏾

[@mpampisdamianidis1787]

I think that Bundesliga must have 20 football teams and not only 18. Germany is a big country with many big cities. There are a lot of teams like HSV, Schalke, Koeln, Nuernberg with big fanbase . Bundesliga must have 20 teams.

[@nigelbolton-hy2rb]

good video. championship needs to be cut down to 20 teams. same for league one. would improve the quality and increase average gates. the big quality gap in uk is between premier league and championship. in germany the quality gap is between 2 liga and 3 liga. english league one is much stronger than 3 liga in germany. championship teams play 2 cup competitions compared to one in germany.

[@RysFootyParadise]

very good points mate, I agree... I'm guessing it just comes down to money?

[@klamin_original]

16:00 no, we don’t prefer ANY relegation playoff system. We don’t need relegation playoffs. Nobody ever asked for relegation playoffs, it’s just a marketing stunt. When you finish 16th you should be relegated and not be able to save your ass against the 3rd place of the 2nd Bundesliga

[@bs67-oldschool30]

Eintracht Braunschweig 1967 German 1.Bundesliga Champion and 1.FC Nürnberg 1968 1.Bundesliga Champion .

[@HERTHABSC1892]

Best trikot my friend 💙🤍💯

[@Gratix_]

You have to go to a home game of HSV, you will be 100% convinced

[@LeedsAway]

Attendance is better in Germany because they have a larger population than England and have less professional football clubs than England

[@RysFootyParadise]

Fair shout that mate!

[@Justin-ii6xh]

"Less professional football clubs" that´s complete nonsense but keep making excuses for the Championship.

[@LeedsAway]

@Justin-ii6xh if you acctually bothered to do some research before making a silly comment, you would know only the top 3 divisions in Germany are classed as professional consisting of 56 teams, where the English League system has 4 leagues that are classes as professional consisting of 92 teams 🤦‍♂️🙄

[@mmww1127]

@@LeedsAwaybut you can’t deny German fans are by far more passionate than english fans. And there are a lot of teams in lower divisions which aren’t professional with a huge attendance to their games, more than some premier league teams

[@KosmoKool]

​@@LeedsAway what's the definition of professional here anyways? Because also in the 4th tier and mainly in the 5th tier, the players are football players full-time.

[@conormarcgregor9809]

Watch a Game in Kaiserslautern from the Club 1.FC Kaiserslautern The Red Devils from Betzenberg!

[@RysFootyParadise]

fantastic club and look forward to seeing a game

[@colincampbell378]

Could I just turn up at an english stadium Saturday lunchtime and buy a ticket ...? I think no, but I can in Hamburg, no problem...

[@johgu92]

Can you though in Hamburg?

[@entenigelpfau]

One more thing:! More "bloo*y" Games, artificial Non-meaning Cups, work Vice versa! 2.Bundesliga ; mich more Passion, Soul and Heart!

[@LiftandCoa]

I really love the appreciation of our football. But yall repeat the same mistake here as back home. Overhype freaking everything. Its a great league, thats it.

[@BALHAM69]

You were called billie eilish 😂 Well, Bundesliga two will have more average attendance than championship League fortuna düsseldorf are doing free tickets again this season. Hertha Berlin, fc schalke, Hannover, Hamburg, köln and fc kaiserslautern to name a few.😊 Fc nürnberg won German league a few times too. Some people like Bundesliga relegation promotion play off.😮 English football league championship play off system is good for a team such a sixth place team can go up to League above.

[@LeedsAway]

Tbf, I think the fact Germany has a larger population than England and has less professional football clubs than England has helps with the attendance.

[@morthaug]

I personally think that the 2. Bundesliga is better because of the fallen giants

[@biIIyb0y]

Fan Culture yes, Player Quality no

[@entenigelpfau]

What is the fucking tching high class football without never bring to eben play the Body Entrance,!

[@RysFootyParadise]

Im really sorry mate im not quite sure what you’re trying to say 😅

[@unclejacksbluewhitearmy]

Tinpot foreign league compared with the utterly bonkers Champ

[@seanlocke2228]

You are obsessed with German football right now lol When are going to give the Scots some love?

[@RysFootyParadise]

@@seanlocke2228 I am 🤩 Scottish football isn’t really my forte mate 😁 just sticking to the English & German leagues mostly for now 👍🏾

[@larscederberg8564]

Championship League is better than Bundesliga 😄

[@entenigelpfau]

Sorry, but one more super important fact! THE 1.Bundesliga and the second are effortable, for everyone, for Christs-Sake!

[@67pat]

du meinst affordable oder?

[@kapitanvollsuff6672]

It is more exciting than the oil money Premier League

[@clemfandango619]

No, but neither is the Bundesliga. Harry Kane wouldn't score 36 goals in a championship season.

[@Justin-ii6xh]

Hahahahahaha

[@RysFootyParadise]

Controversial 👀

[@mmww1127]

What about Erling Haaland? Or Kevin de Bruyne? Or Ilkay Gündogan? Just a few examples it works the other way around…