Is God Real! Mohammed hijab and Athiest Speakers Corner

[@amsamsamamsamsam8022]

Thanks to the heckler we having a civilised discussion رب ضارة نافعة.😀😀😀

[@addimanneh6903]

Allah’s plan

[@DocRealTalk]

Great discussion. Much higher standard than people repeating the same script on another Sunday.

[@DocRealTalk]

@Ashura Senju I didn't even mention anyone, so who am I judging? I'm only judging the quality of discussions. Also, everyone judges, especially religious people. Islam literally teaches you Muslims are better than non-Muslims. So I don't think you're in a position to criticize anyone else for judging.

[@ibadurrehman1210]

@@DocRealTalk you forget why it teaches that, by any sane logic, someone with objective morality is better than someone without any morality at all, it's not just Islam, every religion has morality, to be without religion is to forsake morality

[@DocRealTalk]

@@ibadurrehman1210 I think morality would exist even if all religions disappeared. And I think you can teach morality through moral philosophy, not just religion. The issue is, this is not being done in real life. No one is teaching moral philosophy to children at a young age. So if they're not being taught it through religion, or they just don't believe in the religion being taught, it leads to bad outcomes for society as a whole. And I think teaching morals through some sort of philosophy is probably better than attempting to teach it through religion. The reason is, religion comes with lots of other crap which most people find hard to believe. Therefore, they just disregard religion as a whole. Atheism/Agnosticism is the fastest growing belief system...and it's growing faster than any religion.

[@howtodoit4204]

The heckler just appeared out of nothing subhanallah 🤣

[@abubakrrauf1691]

Love the way hijab speaks so calmly

[@afzalsiraj826]

OMG, This heckler made my day 😂😂

[@osman7240]

May allah guide that black man earlier on the video. His misguided

[@blackpentagon]

The very basic mathematics is counting. eg: 1,2,3,4,5,6,... + - * / ^ etc. are counting rules. eg: 1+1 = 2, 2+3 !=4 What are you counting? Length, quantity, volume, time, etc. If you are counting water: - Are you counting its drop? - Or are you counting its volume? Because thousands of drops of water can be merged and count as one unit, but its volume was changed. Even 1m^3 of air can be compressed into smaller size, but its density was changed.

[@ElNoons]

The Heckler came right when Hijab was speaking about how things that are bad can be good for you Sub Han Allah!

[@ElNoons]

"What kind of test would it be if it wasn't difficult "

[@Flameandfireclan]

Regarding “If he created the evil, then how come he can be all good”. I would like to compare this to Tim-Berners Lee. He created the internet. So, the internet being used to sell drugs, distributing child pornography doesn’t entail that Tim-Berners Lee is evil.

[@dyz39]

God created Good and Evil, God’s creation was from God, as there was only God before the Creation.

[@theraising_4733]

But that analogy is kinda flawed habibi, for Tim isn’t the creator of the bad that is done in the internet. But God is the creator of everything and also of our evil actions. So for example, when one does zina (fornication) they are responsible according to Islam. And they (the sinner) blames themselves. But if God created that action of zina (fornication) how can any of his creatures (in this case humans) be responsible for that which they have done in truth? I hope I make myself clear? My God give you good.

[@buridah328]

Evil is a creation by definition

[@zohebakhtar265]

@@theraising_4733 Obviously his analogy is incorrect. But your understanding is also flawed brother. God didn't explicitly created all evil that we do. That is, God did not created this entity called Pornography. He was not the inventor of Pornography. He gave people the ability to do good or bad. He created the desires to do things and gave a permissible way to achieve and fulfil that desire. He where there is permissible way, all other ways are prohibited ways. So you can say that the permissible ways are "Good" and all other ways are "Evil". YOU have the ability to do prohibited way or "EVIL". You are given the permission by God to do whatever the heck you want. That doesn't mean that God is doing those things in the first place.

[@dyz39]

@@zohebakhtar265 I understand where you are coming from but even man made things goes through the Human filter, but ultimately everything that’s physical originates back to One God. God is all knowing, God is above time, God already know’s everything to do with his creation, as he created it with just Himself. God knew Adam and Eve were going to sin, thats why God done it that way, so Humans can think independently from God, in other words free choice. God put it in place to test us, if we keep choosing the wrong choices it’ll lead to death, or we choose the right choices, it’ll bring us closer to God. If Adam and Eve didn’t sin then the world as we know it becomes pointless as everything will be in perfect unity with God.

[@liaqatkhan49]

Man trying to explain a reason for god, to a person who is learning not to know abou it

[@g_m15]

The necessary being is All-Knowing, therefore, knows it all, knows/has the best plan. If you join Him, you get to be in the best system. Logic isn't subjective, because is collective. Ripples we caused in the universe aren't subjective. And if prayer can erase records of the past, and fix the future thats also not subjective. Our awareness can be subjective but the effects of our awareness are not subjective.

[@christopherwells3426]

Anything that is inanimate is necessarily dependent. Again going back to my other point. Without intelligence being self-aware having a will and the power to create it has to be dependent.

[@loftilhan4868]

I really don’t get what’s so hard for people to understand this argument, it’s uncrackable because you need a necessary existence.

[@slimshady7625]

Isn't animate dependent to?

[@TheBlaze4000]

There's literally no logic in your argument. Give a logical argument as to why all things must come from an intelligent being. All you're doing is making assertions.

[@loftilhan4868]

@@TheBlaze4000 Give a refutation against the original comment instead of making assertions.

[@TheBlaze4000]

@@loftilhan4868 What you're asking me to do would be like someone saying unicorns created the universe, and expecting you to disprove it. There's something called the burden of proof. He made the statement all inanimate objects come from an intelligent being. This is his claim. I shouldn't have to prove why this is impossible anymore than you should disprove unicorn, op should defend his claim since he's the one making a claim of certainty. The only thing I'd add to provide a foundation for your proof is to rule out why something couldn't have come from an unintelligent force of nature

[@Ali124hdkflc]

LMAOOOO that heckler was so funny man

[@christopherwells3426]

Exactly if you didn't know what evil was you wouldn't know what good is. Without suffering you wouldn't know what pleasure is. Etc this life is a trial a test in preparation for the life of the hereafter. God is the one who sets the criteria for right and wrong God is the one who tells you what is a sin and what is good. He gives you the choice to do the right thing or the wrong thing to do good or do a sin this is what free will is. Would you rather not have free will. Human beings have a great capacity to do good and or evil. You say that God is good and that he should help us that he's there to help us. What do you think the guidance from the Revelation that was given to the prophets is about? Why do you think he revealed the Quran to give you the criteria between right and wrong he is helping you. It's your own fault for not taking that help and for committing sins. How we going to blame God like you don't have control over your thoughts your actions or what you say? There are consequences for your actions in this life? Just based on man-made laws.why do you think there shouldn't be consequences for your actions when it comes to breaking God's commands his laws? You should just be free to go? So everyone who's committed evil in their life should just get off Scot free? Seriously get a grip.

[@basedmuslimbooks]

Beautiful. In a nutshell, why is there evil and suffering in this world? Because we have free will.

[@christopherwells3426]

@@basedmuslimbooks pretty much otherwise you would be 100% obedient to God 24/7.

[@mark-kq7rc]

@@christopherwells3426 exactly everybody will be like robots if there was no suffering!! btw are you deist, muslim, christian or jewish??

[@ibrahimhassan711]

@@christopherwells3426 exactly in Islam that is why angels are completely obedient to god they dont have a choice that is there main difference between us and them we can choose to obey or not to obey because god let us. from the perspective of Muslims.

[@theraising_4733]

“He gives you the choice to do the right thing or the wrong thing to do good or do a sin this is what free will is.” But this “choice” is also created. So for example, if a person goes out to commit fornication and he can choose to do it or not to do it. So he can choose to sin or not to sin. Than both of these outcomes are created, that is something we both agree on. But so is his choice. For if his isn’t created and something absent from him. This would be shirk.

[@miralabualjadail4206]

Happy to see a subha in Hijab’s hand and also, how he didn’t answer the Afrocentric man despite his blatant disrespect I wish to see this always from all parties.

[@howtodoit4204]

What do you mean Afrocentric

[@miralabualjadail4206]

@@howtodoit4204 its a movement. You can read about it to understand. That man belongs to them. They think they are a superior race that ruled the world.

[@NaughtyTroll]

@@miralabualjadail4206 are you talking about the heckler?

[@miralabualjadail4206]

@@NaughtyTroll yup

[@astrosolla2627]

Its funny how when he asked why bad things happen, the guy came and started saying bad things and it led them to sit comfortably and have a chill discussion, “when something bad happens it’s for s good reason”

[@kingco-bruh7271]

🙏🙏🙏

[@sekousmiley9765]

Some people are really despicable. That black man was so rude

[@abyyman1671]

May Allah guide him ameen

[@mohsinraza3712]

Bro hijab has so much resemblance to my younger brother.

[@stonezzrollerr5445]

O mankind! verily there hath come to you a convincing proof from your Lord: For We have sent unto you a light (that is) manifest.(QS An Nisaa' :174) Now let man but think from what he is created! (QS At Taariq: 5) We have indeed created man in the best of moulds.(QS At Tiin: 4)

[@infiniity5529]

Just because god created evil doesn’t mean He’s evil. It’s logical. Finding the truth is using your logic

[@inter1324]

God allowed evil like murder, crime rape, horrible diseases all because of some test? Yeah God definitely isn't evil

[@kenkaneki9138]

@@inter1324 God gave us free will its evil doers fault for doing evil, why are u blaming God for people's actions?

[@_nightshade_gaming4792]

Yep, just think about it Good can exist without evil Evil cant exist without good Just like light can exist without darkness or a shadow But darkness or a shadow cant exist without light

[@infiniity5529]

@@inter1324 I know but if you think about it what about all the love in the world it all comes from him. The intense love we feel for one another soo deep some will even give their life for their loved ones. God gave us free will so the evil is from people. It seems cruel to make a world where there is evil but it’s not because he didn’t create it we did through our actions.

[@AM-iv4fz]

Allah hu akbar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@QQ-hm4nu]

For Gods sake improve the audio cut outs

[@motazdakhil3655]

Can it be translated into Arabic please ✅❤️👍👌

[@vishodey]

Using Niqabs logic who created god or infinite number of gods ? He has no answer using his logic.

[@Cheximus]

Diversity is our strength :)

[@tanjilrezbi1469]

Son got huge arms.

[@damiandamn9723]

Horrible audio, please improve on it. Great video though.

[@kalzyoung]

Who invited Tracy Morgan🤷🏽‍♂️

[@vishodey]

Mohammad Niqab’s reasoning is the same as a goldfish. He thinks the universe is his goldfish bowl. Qed

[@Abuda7amHD]

Unfortunately, the person Hijab was discussing with is suffering from sophistry with all that "I'm not omniscient" talk. I think it would've been more productive if Hijab recognized that and displayed the absurdities that arise when thinking nothing can be known 100%.

[@buridah328]

What you perceive as sophistry we perceive as intellectual pondering. The fact that you get overly defensive shows how weak your bench is.

[@Abuda7amHD]

@@buridah328 If you think being a sophist and deny all first principles and reject epistemology then it is impossible for you to come to any truth or establish any fact so you are philosophically weightless and add nothing to the scene and argue for nothing.

[@buridah328]

@@Abuda7amHD except you’re the one accusing someone with opposing views to yours a sophist. He’s intellectually honest, whereas you come off as arrogant and presumptuous. Presumptions aren’t facts.

[@Abuda7amHD]

@@buridah328 They are not presumptions rather they are self-evident truths that are used to deduce other truths about reality. Besides, if you are a sophist then you do not and cannot hold any opinion or establish any truth so what are you even arguing for?

[@buridah328]

@@Abuda7amHD no. You’re literally making an assumption, and building on it. Stop and think about it.

[@ivorystinkershack3422]

THEEE EEEEVUUUURLLL

[@kunjinjaalamohammedaminhil1659]

How could christianity be true when such people are the ones propagating and defending it?

[@DarkCrusade]

We have the same kind of clowns in our religion, don't think thats a valid claim

[@barikrehman6900]

Yes

[@TheBlaze4000]

How can Islam be true when Isis is propagating it.

[@dyz39]

The way you spoke to him, speak to a Jew, you both will 100% agree. Like you said in the video call God what you want, call the religion of God what you want but Islam and Judaism are part of the same religion from Abraham. You cant be ignorant and say its Islam, as Judaism an the Torah was set in stone first. Therefore a temple should be created on the temple mount that both Jews and Muslims cant pray at in harmony, together united under the covenant God gave to Abraham.

[@mhmd250000]

What waist pack is that hijab is wearing

[@slimshady7625]

Gucci

[@MrKaugaban]

Somebody need to be ruqyah.

[@vishodey]

Stupid argument 2+ 2 = 4. There is an infinite series to arrive at 4. 3+ 1 = 4, 5-1 = 4 etc.

[@eldinbechar]

contingency argument in a nutshel

[@Omarj1986]

Mohamed Hijab needs to stop saying "I'm the learnered one". He comes of as arrogant. He puts off his interlocutor and the audience. This is determinental to the Dawah.

[@ibrahimhassan711]

he literally says he is ignorant of many things in this video like we all are

[@sanahussain4755]

he can’t have a laugh? lol, relax

[@buridah328]

@@sanahussain4755 stop lusting

[@FM4343.]

WAI DID YOU INSULT MY MODA!! IS THAT WAT ISLAM TEACHES YOU> THIS INDIVIDUAL HERE

[@Cheximus]

He's been making this argument for ages now and it's so weak, this dependence argument. C'mon bro. It's basically saying this universe was created for humans to exist. No. Humans exist because the universe allows them to.

[@avislibrary9698]

Lol. His argument about dependency isn't focused on human beings buy rather the universe as a whole. You're attacking a strawman.

[@yasinhanine5723]

The guy in the back is so annoying

[@bijuadooropa]

What u speak... Who can understand this... I don't think so anybody can understand and reply to u... No use at all

[@waleedsulaiman651]

1:06 ' its death then life'

[@Khaledf]

Muhammad Hijab needs to ho to gym

[@batlefieldproes]

@Borsalino Kizaru YEAH HE LOOK SO SMALL RIGHT ?

[@shadyrezai6294]

Mohamad talks too much philosophy and never gets to the heart of the problem which is talking about Islam and allah . I think it is wrong approach and he always does this

[@avislibrary9698]

The atheist is concerned about whether or not Allah exist in the first place to even start making sense of Who Allah is and what Islam says

[@avislibrary9698]

Also, Muhammad Hijab uses the Qur'an as the cornerstone of his arguments

[@_nightshade_gaming4792]

@@avislibrary9698 yep

[@jaymz010]

6:20 HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS & IS NOT POSSIBLE !?!? 🤷🏽‍♂️ Your human understanding is limited. Your temporal & 3dimensional. This man speaks of “absurdities”...Don’t you think it’s a lil absurd to think that the purpose of billions of years of this universe’s existence is us? Humans?! Who in the grand scheme of things, has existed for the blink of an eye 🤨 That’s like building a mansion so I can fart in it once & leave

[@loftilhan4868]

Can you explain how a series of dependent things can be explained through a dependent existence? Also, this lil man is 6’9 who would definitely smash you both physically and intellectually dude.

[@jaymz010]

@@loftilhan4868 Er...Go read my comment again. I never actually referred to him as a “lil man” 🖕🏽☺️ And you said he’d “smash me”? Unprovoked violence, how very Islamic 🖕🏽☺️ “...a series of dependent things, explained through a dependent existence...”??? Again reeeeaaaad my comment again. That was never my attempt nor was it the topic of my claim 🖕🏽☺️

[@loftilhan4868]

@@jaymz010 Hey dude that was my bad in my part but still, I’m asking if you can do that to avoid wasting time and effort just to end up back in the same conclusion. If you can prove that conjecture then the argument is falsified but if u can’t then it’s still remains strong.

[@DarkCrusade]

Why is it absurd? Thats just your subjective take. You're claiming ignorance and just running away like, Mohammed Hijab said

[@incineratorium]

Are you possessed?

[@archiec8391]

Bacon is godly.

[@ibrahimhassan711]

they eat their own shit and anything else.

[@RIPVEVO]

Irrelevant as hell

[@archiec8391]

@@RIPVEVO have you tried a good cut of bacon? It’s a game changer…

[@buridah328]

@@ibrahimhassan711 not true

[@ibrahimhassan711]

@@buridah328 should i send you a video its not pleasant. not only do they eat shit but they will eat each other.