Is HARLEY DAVIDSON cancelling this Model in 2025?

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Do you think the limited will become an accessory package installed by the dealer?

[@carlbruhn1772]

Absolutely. The reduction of different floored models has been in the works for 2 years. The packaged options were introduced to dealers 2 years ago as a upcoming change.

[@Dave-sw2dm]

When I bought a RGU I bought a kit so I could remove the tour pack. Wish I could have removed the lowers.

[@worldofzap]

They have already stopped making the limited. My wife has a 2023 Road Glide Limited, I have not seen a 2024 limited and my dealer has told me they can’t order a limited anymore.

[@worldofzap]

P.S. the also seem to be getting rid of two tone paint schemes. Maybe only CVO now.

[@tomharvey283]

@@worldofzap They have them but just with old fairing.

[@gunz2090]

You know what they need to get rid of ? The current CEO

[@bigjohnson9561]

@@gunz2090 The only way to get rid of any CEO is for the investors to lose money on their stocks. As long as HD CEO is making them money, they will not get rid of him. Pretty much it’s that simple. So it really doesn’t matter if you like his policies or not. It’s all about the money.

[@stuwhyte479]

Absolutely correct. ​@@bigjohnson9561

[@Zustran]

​@bigjohnson9561 have you seen the videos of the Harley tent at Sturgis? Place was a ghost town. The customers are speaking very loudly. Harley is already internally investigating thier policies.

[@icehog2367]

@@Zustran Video had to be real 🤣

[@erniethompson33]

Harley better get the business sorted out for the accessories they can’t provide on the 2024 models this year. We’re still waiting for heated grips to be shipped, apparently October now, and just received our flat out styled rear bag guards. No windscreens to try at our dealer yet also. I couldn’t imagine buying a street/road glide and having to wait months for a “touring accessory package” in 2025. Still waiting for some seats for these bikes to try. How long did they know this 2024 model was coming out to not have accessories…they really dropped the ball this year. Great vid though Mike, keep them coming!

[@mikefusco7215]

As a serious touring rider who owns a Road Glide Limited, this is going to push serious tourers who want the protection of fairings and lowers for long distance tours, to Honda Goldwing, Indian Pursuit and the many BMW options. Honda, Indian and BMW are going to love this decision. The new touring platform, with the emphasis on performance with the occasional long distance ride, gives the Dyna Bros a new platform to move up to while the serious HD touring riders have to pick through packages to "build" something to their liking. I get it from a business and cost perspective, but it's treating a dedicated segment of riders like an afterthought.

[@vette63]

If they did look at those other brands they would be surprised by the cost & reliability & kicking themselves why the ever had a Harley anyway.

[@fragtastic4]

They need to come out with a new lower fairing set up for new bikes with chopped engine guards.

[@markcardwell3691]

All of those are better options anyway.

[@tomharvey283]

Getting rid of their touring models would be very stupid.

[@theokomulainen7549]

Hardly does what they do best!

[@franko8572]

Low Rider ST taking over.

[@Axle-7]

Not getting rid of touring models. Getting rid of the limited. It's the same bike. They're just going to have the tour pack, lowers, heated grips etc as an add on package

[@tomharvey283]

@@Axle-7 Won’t happen. they make money or extras like painted tour pack , lowers, heated grips.

[@Axle-7]

@@tomharvey283 did you even read my comment? I'm saying they will sell them separately to add to the regular road or street glide

[@denniswilliams2385]

As a proud veteran and lifelong Harley loyalist, I wouldn’t buy another Harley Davidson if they were the last freakin’ bike on the planet at this point. FHD

[@gunz2090]

The limited sits higher and tours better...Have had street glides and added everything else...Was good, but still preferred the Limited....I like the street glide and road glides for ripping around, but prefer my Limited for long distance......please Harley.....get rid of the German

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@gunz2090 the new glides have the 3 in rear suspension so that should help.

[@Axle-7]

New rg and sg have the same length shocks as the old ultra which was pretty much the only major suspension difference. Underneath its still the same bike

[@jhallen6034]

As a serious 2-up tourer I think this would be a huge mistake. If they cancel the Limited I will be looking elsewhere. You didn't even scratch the surface on the upgrades that would be needed to make a RG or SG like a limited. Lower fairings, painted inner fairing, heated grips, plush backrest/arm rests for the passenger, rear speakers, luggage rack, RDRS system, etc., etc...... I'm sure they could make most of this available in packages, but at what cost?!? You would be looking at CVO money very quickly!

[@jamessouthworth1699]

They already canceled all the best models between 2017 and 2022. Now they need to throw Jochen Zeits out in the street.

[@timc7175]

Never expected to look elsewhere but here I go..

[@g4dan1]

I’ve had 2 Limiteds and living in the NW and riding year round the lower fairings help in keeping your lower legs dry and warm. The new touring body style is not supporting any type of bolt on or soft lower leg covering. I really like the new RG but, without some type of lowers means I’d probably put the bike under cover in the garage from Nov to March. Yes, I’ve got all the rain gear and water proof boots but, having lower fairings of some type really helps.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@g4dan1 I saw a 24 at Daytona with lowers that looked legit. It can be done…

[@Lous-Clues]

@@RidingintheOzarkswhere can I get lower leg coverings for a 24 RG?

[@rossdonison4999]

Yeah, 100% agree. I live in northern Alberta and the lowers are a godsend, and absolutely essential for riding at the far ends of our short season. I rode through a frickin’ monsoon a couple of weeks ago, and my feet and legs from the knees down were dry. I’ve never needed waterproof boots with the lowers on my bike. If they don’t add these, I’ll keep my current bike forever.

[@RayRicDay]

Road King, full chrome, must be again in the HD catalog.

[@saddle8bag]

It's not just the classic look of the Road King. Aside from the Special blotting out a jewel of an engine w/ black paint, it also has those idiotic stretched bags that don't sit up if you take them off not to mention spine crunching slammed shocks. And what it's missing is a windscreen, passenger floorboards, fog lights, crash bars, paint choice or contrast, two up seat, comfortable handlebars and probably ten other things I don't remember at the moment. And then HD has the nerve to charge $6k more for the Special. Do they intentionally hire the most motorsickle clueless people they can find to work at HD?

[@grits6002]

Yup, my local dealer manager said the same thing at the beginning of the year as I was looking at the new 2024s. Of course NOW Harley can kiss my you know what, ain't setting foot in a HD dealership ever again!!!

[@mrmatt7210]

Dealer Installed packages help the dealerships to earn some profit, but they dont help the customer in regards to resale. For a Ford F150, you can purchase a base F150 or several upgraded trim levels, and the book value of your truck varies depending on the factory upgrades. With a Harley, you can purchase the bike of your choice and spend thousands in factory upgrades, but this may not affect the value of your trade-in or bank loan value. Often enough, your bike is valued at the stock value regardless what you did to it (factory or not).

[@frankfurther3828]

Let them get rid of everything except the one equipped and priced for the middle-class working person. The Standard model. Oh, they no longer have a model like that. OH. F Jochen

[@bryaningham2391]

The Ultra was always the way you go if you wanted the tour pack.. So much bang for the buck compared to adding all of its parts to the SG or RG.. It is a straight up money grab by HD.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@bryaningham2391 in this case money will also go to dealers. I think it all depends on price and value…

[@pelosishammer]

I bought a 2014 Street Glide in September of 2013. I bought the king tour pack with it. I just traded a 2021 FXLRS for a 2017 Street Glide Special and I’ve still got the King Tour Pack. The good thing about Harleys is that you can transfer some parts and components to newer bikes.

[@bobhartman2571]

Absolutely, a classic Road King for me.

[@patrickhumpal8651]

Packages make perfect sense as long as the price is fair and the package is well put together. A lot of people don’t want or need a totally tricked out bike for $50,000 plus or minus!

[@petebrandstrom1038]

Wouldn’t buy any Harley before the current ceo was hired, won’t buy anything until he is gone. He and his woke boys and girls are hurting the employees, dealers and customers. IMO, Zetz is marching HD to bankrupcy.

[@JamesBenton-nl4ff]

Yes bring road king bacck

[@motorcycleamerica_6952]

I currently ride a 2018 Road King and 2020 Heritage Classic, and I'd love to see the RK make a return for 2025. Since January of this year, I've speculated that if HD was going to continue to offer the RK as their entry level touring bike, it would HAVE to adopt the styling of the new models inevitably. I was anticipating a mid-year release of the RK, complete with updated saddlebags, tank, instrumentation, engine and most of all, lighting but I was sadly disappointed as we enter mid-August and not a single hint of a new RK. The MoCo also missed a huge opportunity to release one as a 30-year Anniversary model, knowing how much they love to celebrate anniversaries. All in all, it's really disappointing to see how such and iconic model as the RK can just be cast aside and forgotten. Maybe it will make a return next year, who knows at this point what they'll do. Anyway, I enjoy your content and look forward to seeing more.

[@RAF238thCdr84]

Base Road King needs to come back. It not being available was one of the reasons I ended up at an Indian dealership. I shopped into a Chieftain from the Springfield which I looked at because no Road King. Now with all this woke baloney I'm glad things turned out the way they did. $25k rainbowmobile isn't appealing to me. ROY G BIVidson Stay outta politics Harley.

[@mariane5601]

Before I buy another motorcycle like a Harley Davidson I've had probably 13 Harley Davidson in my lifetime and I'm 71 years old and before I buy another Harley Davidson the prices would have to come down and I mean a good 10 to 15% because it's getting out of range your their prices are so ridiculous for what you get andyou gotta get back with the groove because the average Joe cannot buy a Harley Davidson without financing it

[@theotherrobzombie]

It seems to me that they keep taking things away that were on certain bikes and yet charging more for the same bike with less. This has been happening before inflation too! I love my 20 CVO Limited. Bought it “used” w/ 25 miles on the odometer. Basically brand new but for far less than the normal Harley price. The CVO line now is crazy! In 12yrs the prices have climbed well over $10k! Absolutely insane! What’s also amusing is that you used to buy a CVO because it had “special paint” and now they’re charging more for the 2 tone paint. It’s not worth it to buy new. Better to buy used and let someone else take that huge depreciation.

[@xanbiker]

In my opinion, for what it is worth, The Road King would be a fantastic stripped down model to go with, not haveing all of the fancy crap. Should make it a more affordable bike for most who want a big bike and not spending big bucks on unnecessary electronics.

[@seniorp9444]

Road King ST would be a hit. Now that all the other touring models have gone with big screen displays and no gauges, RK is the only 2024 touring bike I like.

[@frankfurther3828]

Like a RK Standard. Heck, throw a Keihin on it and a $15k MSRP. Watch a few million go out the door, Jochen.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@frankfurther3828 with a low rider ST being 22k I don’t think we will get a 15k touring model but think 20k would turn heads, saw new goldwing today marked down for 30k+ to 25k so I can’t see HD going that low.

[@frankfurther3828]

@@RidingintheOzarks LRST at $22k is also a ridiculously overpriced unit. The Motor Company sucks. Remember how greed killed Sears?

[@StephenClark-qz4ih]

The current CEO want to make these bike Ultra expensive he would rather sell one bike at $40,000 then two bikes at $20,000.​@frankfurther3828

[@RealSuperRando]

The new design sucks. Demo’d one for a day recently, terrible ride, cheap and plastic feeling fairing and the dash display isn’t visible in bright sunlight and light colored clothing reflects on it making it worse. Glad I purchased my 2021 Road Glide Limited new. Fantastic touring bike. The new ones, not at all.

[@granitegreg7883]

That’s the exact opposite of what I’ve seen video reviews of multiple times.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

And exact opposite of my experience. I have road it in the desert of Nevada, along the Florida coast line and thru the hills of the Ozarks. Now there are contrast modes and brightness and if is not set right that could be a problem. I thought suspension was best factory suspension yet.

[@erniethompson33]

@@RidingintheOzarksfeel the same way about my wife’s street glide. Beautiful bike

[@kennethwise7108]

There are 2 reasons why there is no "Limited" packages. One being Tomahawk hasn't been able to crank out enough of the new King Tour-Paks and Chopped Tour-Paks for the new model touring bikes. Secondly, they've realized the added 50Lb "up high" weight makes it a challenge for your average aged biker to lift the bike off of its kickstand. Why do you think they're tooting their own horns on how much lighter their new bikes are? It's all a marketing ploy.

[@Hendomonster]

Just for giggles, try a RG Limited coming off the stand vs. the Indian Pursuit, or even the Ultra vs. the Roadmaster. It's a noticeable difference, but this is just my opinion from the test rides I had done before buying my slightly used 22 Street Glide.

[@kennethwise7108]

@@Hendomonster no doubt. I personally prefer nothing behind me that takes away from the bikes handling

[@davidgou67]

Great video, informative and not long winded. I'd love to see the Road King Special again in the line up.

[@jerryclark2126]

I have Harley Davidson Nightster 1200 and love it and think the street glide would be a great comeback. No discontinues.

[@hashria]

Totally agree that the old guys like the traditional bike but they’ve needed to sell accessory packs as opposed to the separate bikes to minimize the lines. Offer more colours with more customization to the base bike for better tailoring.

[@tylerthrash3155]

Yes HD should bring back the road king with updates! In a world full of Glides be different!

[@ericmcelroy6970]

Everything you say makes sense. I hadn’t thought about it but makes sense why the limiteds didn’t change. Nor do they have attractive color options. And yes, I would love for them to bring back the traditional chrome Road Kings. Showing my age on that one, but Ive always loved Road Kings.

[@briantrzebiatowski7873]

Thanks for the video. We will not find out until January 2025 what the decision is. I don’t think they will get rid of the limiteds because of the following reasons. 1. Harley calls the new 117 center cooled. Why would they specify center if they did not have another option. 2. As you mentioned the limiteds have heated grips, lower fairings (no way to mount currently due to chopped engine guard), speakers in the tour pack. I currently ride a 2019 Road King Special that I bought new that I have almost 81,000 miles on it. I have a freedom shield windshield and will occasionally put soft lowers on in the winter. I rarely ride without the windshield because of the wind. I do take it off when riding locally.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I have not heard it called Center cooled by HD and I was at the launch event and have a 80 page document they gave us and they refer to it as liquid cooled heads... I think they will have different guards for the lowers as part of the package. I have already seen a 2024 with lowers at Daytona so it can be done.

[@carlbruhn1772]

My local dealership is completely in agreement with Mike.

[@willcasp]

It will be interesting to see what the impact on resale prices will be down the road. Today, the Road Glide, and the Ultra are different models. I would expect an "ultra'd up" base road glide to have a lower resale than an Ultra model. This goes with the idea that accessories don't net the seller much on trade in. Time will tell. I see this as a smart move for Harley, but not necessarily a smart move for the customer.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@willcasp true but with used value you select what trim packages you have so if you had a dealer package it could add value on the used side.

[@guysmiley8473]

​@@RidingintheOzarksexept that my "dealer upgrades" on my 2019 didn't add a penny to my trade. They took the VIN and valued my trade, which pissed me off because they acted like it was better to do before delivery for warranty and everything. So I won't be shopping there anymore. Ofcourse now I have the same problem with all other dealerships because everything is considered an accessory that I can "remove it or lose it". Time will tell, but it won't be coming out of my pocket.

[@russellhalleran9080]

The Road King would be a Great addition. Need to pay attention to the price. I own an Indian Springfield . The price is Great for all you get. It has been an Awesome ride. No issues. Ride Safe!

[@richardschaffling9882]

Harley and the CEO and the board of directors are destroying the company

[@talkingrock7011]

The limited package would be very expensive plus a wait for the color matching tour pack of your choice

[@busterbrown777]

If the Ultra Limited is history then so am I as a customer. I have 2 Ultras that my sons are now riding and was going to purchase another one in 2025. I will seriously start to look at other manufacturers. I am done with this CEO and his not knowing the demographics of his customers. I do not want to add all the accessories. I just want the complete Ultra package and drive away the same day. I have been doing 2-3 week trips every year around North America and am tired of Harley catering to a consumer base that is not their main demographic that actually support Harley.

[@EricBoyer-qn4bu]

Hey Mike , I hope you’re wrong on discontinuing the limited’s . I have a 2017 road guide Ultra and I love it and was ready to purchase a new one, but it hasn’t changed. What about the lowers? The lowers are great in cold weather and rain. I will be very disappointed if they discontinue them .

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I think they will be part of a limited package they will sell to add to the base model.

[@bigjohnson9561]

Like you I own an Ultra and love the bike. It appears HD’s strategy here is to separate us even more from our money. Everyone knows the best deal is to get your bike well equipped for touring, and the Ultra fits that bill. By offering packages, HD will make more money off their consumers because those options will come at a premium cost. In the end HD will make more money while we will spend more to equip our bikes.

[@timmosley-i5v]

No big deal, just add or take off parts. Models, sub models, anniversary, parts will fix it ! Good video bro .

[@davejackson1970]

HD needs optional lower fairings to make it more like a limited. And an easier way to adjust suspension, maybe like what's on the CVO's, for those of us splitting time solo and two up.

[@brettdavis80]

Road King Standard coming back would be great. Unfortunately, I won’t buy one. I have a 2022 Heritage that I added a King Tour pack to and I replaced all the incandescent lights to L.E.D’s along with a Tour pack light strip. Love my Heritage.

[@stevenramos4400]

Am only 42 and bought a limited when I was 39. Limited was better priced than the street glide for what you got. I think Harley making a mistake love my limited

[@stevenramos4400]

So its not all OLDER PEOPLE

[@stevedotworld]

More like THEY as a corporation are getting cancelled.

[@simonapeters4372]

Harley-Davidson is pricing themselves out of business the same bike every year except for the Pan-American and other water cooled models

[@wackyguns]

They get rid of the limiteds they will just loose more customers I’ll stick with my 2018 ultra limited and throw a new motor in it when needed , Harley needs to get there crap together and listen to consumers rather then making rash decision like they have been lately

[@michaelwhite5834]

I owned and absolutely love the Road King Standard. I would've bought one this past year when it was time, but since they aren't sold anymore I decided to get a Road Glide. The RG is great, but the RK is the one bike that fits me best for all purposes.

[@mark2graves-MC]

I own a 2014 Road King. I would only replace it with (possibly) a Fat Boy or (definitely) a Low Rider ST. But that's not an option right now because they only offer the Fat Boy special and both of those bikes are too expensive.. Thankfully I love riding my bike and she's running pretty perfectly, so that's not a pressing issue.

[@BoDean52]

Mike, I am pretty close to a dealership here and was told by the owner that the 2025 models will no longer come with tour packs. Order kind of menu pick which is in line with your thoughts. She mentioned that HD told the dealers this past spring.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Well I have been thinking for months. I just could not get anyone to confirm it... Since I made HD's radar it has been harder to find leaks... I think Dealers have been warned LOL

[@micahruddell74]

I do not think HD is getting rid of the Limited's. They are reimagining the Limited line. If we don't have a new Limited for '25 I'm willing to bet, we will have it in '26.

[@rokkermusic]

Personally, I don’t think a packaged option will work for those in the market for a Limited. H-D needs to engineer these bikes afresh to different cams/tuning and some long-overdue enhancements to their long-distance platform, such as electronically adjustable suspension, adjustable windshield, and (maybe) active cruise control to keep pace with the competition from Indian, Honda, and BMW. Not just a band-aid approach, but a rethink is what will keep their long-distance touring customer from feeling alienated and looking elsewhere. Cheers!

[@michaelflanagan7006]

This is exactly what I have been look for to replace my 2015 CVO limited

[@jonnymac8925]

I'm still trying to figure out why they haven't released a 975cc Pan America? I feel like it's a complete no brainer for those that want an adventure bike that isn't making 150+hp.

[@phillippugh2161]

Why would someone buy a slower pan american it'll still be expensive even with the smaller motor

[@MrNew122]

If Harley got rid of the Ultra Limted, that would leave Honda, Indian, and BMW as the only makers of a fully dressed touring bike. Why would Harley give their competitors new customers who want a full dressed tour bike. Nobody wants to buy a basic motorcycle and spend thousands of dollars on parts to make it a full dressed touring bike. That's just ridiculous.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@MrNew122 what if you paid same price either way?

[@NEDDIE123]

Makes sense. Even car dealers do specific dealer packs here in NZ. Gotta cut costs somewhere.

[@Big-Al.64]

Watching your video at the beginning, I immediately thought of the Road King that you discuss at the end because I'm not interested in fairings and screens. And it seems that the packages are a good solution, they could offer a basic Road King with options: black trim or chrome trim, windshield ect... I too would like the return of the Road King, however I wouldn't like them to put the new tank which I find too angular as well as the chopped bags and even less a screen or a digital gauge. Let see what will come. Greetings from France

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@Big-Al.64 the new tank and bags were part of the new fairing so I could see them leaving the old design on other models.

[@MichaelH416]

The missed out with not offering the new fairings on trikes. The package deals used to be offered years ago by Harley. It was called the Custom Vehicle Operations catalog. You could order kits, paint sets, and so on. They were all limited in production. So your kit was numbered, eluding to it somehow increasing its value. Harley dealers never offered more on trade ins for bikes with limited accessories. Then Harley offered CVO bikes right off the assembly line. The CVO bikes used to be limited edition Screaming Eagle Bikes. So all in all Harley has just come full circle to where they were in the 90’s. So long as they don’t go back to a Wait List for new models.

[@HD2O13XL12OOC]

It makes sense to have it be an optional "package" The Limited looks way bigger than the Stock, the stock bike is more approachable

[@MyDunnLife]

The Ultra "Package" makes sense as long as HD doesn't over price it much more than the current model. Otherwise people might just go Advanblack

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@MyDunnLife true but a dealer package could increase used values more than aftermarket. When you get used values on a vehicle they ask what options or packages you have.

[@voodootrucker43]

Won't cancel until use up the old parts then they'll redesign it to look like the new style

[@joshrandall5297]

I'm thinking they had unsold '23 Limiteds and rebadged them as '24s.

[@martinkies6580]

Glad I have a 2011 FLHRC and 2023 FLTRK: bought both bikes before they eliminated them. Love them both!!!!

[@azadr9231]

I would hope they make some changes to the low rider models. Those two need better seats, more pulled back handlebars, LED lighting all over, and perhaps some electronic creature comforts.

[@kenkramer2884]

Out in Sturgis doing demo rides and test road a new 2024 RoadGlide with a “Touring package”. It was a RoadGlide with a tour pack and passenger floor boards. I didn’t notice anything else changed

[@zavlo72]

packages are dumb. i dont want all that shit at a large price. just give me parts

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@zavlo72 I am sure that will be an option as well.

[@gregrose6915]

What you said, makes a lot of sense. Just wonder how they would apply the new changes to the Tri-Glide, with respect to the new fairing and lowers.

[@frankfurther3828]

Tons of hardly used tri-glides out there begging to be bought.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@gregrose6915 I don’t know that they will to the tri glide… maybe it waits another year for a redesign

[@Fordfanatic1995]

If they get rid of the ultras and the old body style I definitely don’t see Harley keep making the old fairings just for trikes. My dealer in Milwaukee said they are trying to fit tour packs on the rg3 and freewheeler

[@JoeyJoejoe-sq9io]

Wow, it's weird. Talking about HD without wanting to throw up. Yay to everyone who covered the badges.

[@starlight_starbright8204]

I would totally buy a road king. Here in SoCal where I live, road kings are just that...king! We ride vicla style over here. I cannot for the life of me understand why that classic bike was cancelled! There's a huge market for the road king classic and not just in CA alone.

[@erniethompson33]

I really like my 2023 road king special but a road king special in the new package! Ride modes and updated styling, I’m in for that

[@Dirk1961-l7y]

I saw a 2024 Road Glide as "Ultra" at my dealer here. They put a sprayed tourpack on it....and counts €3000 at the price😱

[@shanecoker8566]

I talked with a factory Harley guy at their truck at Black Hills HD, January is when all the new accessories are coming out for the new Street & Road glide. He wouldn’t confirm no more Limiteds but didn’t look good for them returning.

[@andromedach]

Packages without a discount are useless other than to inform the buyer of options that exist. Dropping the Limited and only offering packages certainly enriches Harley's coffers as the Limited models were cheaper than adding all the features it had over the base model.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@andromedach one advantage could be used values, when you get used values on a truck they ask what trim or packages you have, doing a package could increase used value more than a couple custom parts from other vendors…

[@tonycrist2003]

Love my ROAD KING I do have a Electra glide limited too for long trips

[@rontaylor2094]

Unfortunately I agree with your assumptions. If you have to purchase a package to make it a limited it's more money for HD and the dealer. You're already paying the price of a limited now, just not getting those accessories. This is kind of what stopped me from buying a bike this year. I was hoping in 2025 they would make the limited with the new engine and cooling system but so many people are paying the extra money to add the tour pak, the heated grips, the rear floor boards, the lighting etc and HD is profiting from it why come out with a ready made limited for less money. That's the one thing I like about Honda, BMW and others, they give you their best horsepower engine for the model and with all the touring accessories already on the bike.

[@thanosetsitty1896]

I don’t know? That nightster special that being built on Kruesi Originals looks pretty sick. My only reason why I didn’t buy the limited is because of the unrecoverable lower fairing. I like to feel the wind on my feet during summer riding.

[@beach_bum_dean]

I currently have a '20 RK (not the special). My previous RK was a 2001 that I rode for like 16 years. I would be interested in a new designed RK with windshield, passing lamp, chrome, etc. I dig the new redesigned SG/RG, just don't want an 'Infotainment Center' and speakers.

[@HD2O13XL12OOC]

I used to have the Road king on my short list but not recently

[@jhw326]

I bought a used 2015 Road King Standard so the wife and I could ride 2 up to get some experience and either move to an Ultra or slowly add to the RK and "build" an Ultra over time. But other then a newer engine the 103 has been good for me. But I did check out the Road King Special "touring" package. To everyone's point though I hope they keep package pricing reasonable.

[@grumpyoldretiredcop8382]

This just means that dealers will pack new bikes with packages so that they can jack up the prices. I took a Street Glide and added a tour pak rather than pay the inflated price for an Ultra. What HD needs to do is offer the packages directly to the consumer; most of them will pay the dealer to have them installed in any case. But the bigger picture is that H-D needs to empty out the Vampire from Deutschland and his corporate cronies on the Board if the company wants to survive.

[@RonD-d5h]

Harley should cancel all of its models.

[@bobrod5834]

Dont listen to what the ceo and board says..watch what they do. They dont know their customer base, and dont care.

[@MrFunkdaddyfresh]

I think this is bull crap. I'm just going to swap over to Indian. Harley Davidson is starting to suck more and more.

[@mrbulldawg65]

I bought a Ford F250 and then realized I could pull a lot, but the payload could not handle my 5th wheel camper

[@distancejunkiemonkey4491]

after numerous problems with my 2029 Ultra, I'm canceling it. HD will be just a boutique for order only , building only CVO's in 10 yrs, unless they get back to basics.

[@williamwatkins2538]

What’s killing Harley is their prices, why are softails the same price as the touring bikes?

[@JTFLHX09]

Do you think the Roadglide 3 or the Triglide will get the new fairings or any changes for 2025 ?

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@JTFLHX09 I’m thinking that may wait another year at least for the Tri glide.

[@andromedach]

The Revolution Max based bikes are having their production moved to Thailand based on some recent articles which we can hope reduces the prices and allows more models, especially the missing models.

[@carlbruhn1772]

Perhaps they could move all production to Thailand. Then dissolve the Unions and then everything will be cheaper. No Thanks

[@frankfurther3828]

yeah screw the American Union assembler right?

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@andromedach it is going to have to compete with Honda on every level then… I hate to hear this!

[@SamSwanner]

I'd like to see the Road King Classic make a return, or a Classic package for the Road King so I could have the leather look bags like the Heritage but on the touring chassis. And I agree with the comment I see below, what Harley needs to get rid of is the CEO

[@tirant7023]

Should they reintroduce the Road King Classic, it is expected to feature the new body style along with a 117 engine, as well as the Road King Special, which will also sport the new body design.

[@trackman174]

Kawasaki’s Voyager offers a great touring bike at a affordable price. I’m a long time Harley rider that will be checking this out.

[@MacRides1]

If it's true that sucks. I own a 2019 Limited and it's great. I wouls buy a new one when a much larger engine (131?) becomes standard on that model

[@Vipersshorts]

2022 Ultra limited, I will be building my own sleds my way

[@shane8493]

They are shipping production of the nightster & pan am to Thailand to lower cost.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

The factory in Thailand makes models for the eastern market and Australia due to tariffs, this is not new. All HD's sold in North America are assembled in North America to date, could that change in the future but I have not heard anything to suggest that.

[@shane8493]

@@RidingintheOzarksit just came out & the Union is going to fight it. They are moving all production of these bikes.

[@carlbruhn1772]

​@@RidingintheOzarksConsider reading the August 8th edition of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. You will find they are indeed moving all production of the Pan am, Sportster and Nighster to Thailand and for 2025 importing to the US.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@carlbruhn1772 thanks I will and this is a huge mistake to me

[@TobyNorthEN]

I'm curious if HD will (and I suspect they will) continue with both designs. If they do, for how long? This also causes me to wonder how much it costs HD to maintain the machines and tooling for both mold styles and engine sizes for both types. 🤔

[@samslade739]

This CEO has made allot of really bad decisions. Sounds like these "Packages" are just another way for dealers to gouge their customers. I've been riding Harleys for nearly 60 years. Never imagined riding anything else. Until now!!

[@cornbread8246]

Hey Man Mountain Mike, I ride a RKS. It’s such a versatile bike. I would love to see the RK standard come back. As fas as cutting goes, I think cutting the current CEO & a majority of the woke BOD would be a great place to start. I don’t see that happening however. I do see HD cutting the Street Bob or the Fat Bob. Just my thoughts brother.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Fat Bob was already cut, I saw almost no softail standards this year so hard to say but it might go…

[@shovel_head80]

I will never buy another Harley after they went woke and Al Bundy leadership

[@phillippugh2161]

Ok smart guy what is woke ........so buy your definition only white guys who drive a truck an beat there wife's should be the only one that can buy a Harley...riiiight

[@fxlrsaz6363]

Same here and was thinking about a RG no more once the CEO is gone then will see!

[@six.....]

I also believe the freewheeler trunk will be redesigned

[@Fordfanatic1995]

I’ve heard the same from my dealer. They are trying to mount a tour pack on them.

[@ianb282]

I wonder if they will still have all the wiring available for the back..your analogy of packages are good like the auto dealerships…but i bet they will charge extra for wiring setup availability for speakers\ rear trunk lights etc etc… if i am to pay labor cost for installing rear speakers, etc etc. that will definitely look at other motorcycles that have the discounted price baked in…

[@ianb282]

BTW, im bettjng based off the questionaires they sent out, they might even consider items like power windhield, etc etc

[@garywhiteis4289]

They could sell the Limited if they put a decent color on them. The last 3 years the colors SUCKED

[@toninhodovale8897]

This is a shoot on the feet for Harley Davidson.

[@jimscarnivorekitchen4731]

Love your vids but my next bike is a Honda.