2025 HARLEY DAVIDSON MODEL RUMORS, Am I right?

[@RidingintheOzarks]

What do you think I got Wrong or Right? Will the Street Bob get the 117?

[@cornbread8246]

I’m not saying what I think you got wrong or right. You are are a smart guy. I am saying I hope HD doesn’t cut the Road King Special. I’m hoping they bring out some upgrades on it and drop the price point.

[@thecappy]

If SB gets 117 then the LRS/ST better move up too.

[@jasonkimble8926]

Nope

[@jasonkimble8926]

Need a road king st, and priced right

[@jumpingjack4725]

I think you’re spot on with the packages, especially with the old limiteds. Buying a base model and adding what you want makes a lot of sense.

[@saddle8bag]

I'm a Road King guy too. They could bring back the old one with a 107 and I'd be happy. Just give me some nice color choices and price it around $20k. Bring back the hydraulic clutch too!

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@saddle8bag that would be great entry price

[@azrider3562]

Even disregarding the Hydraulic Clutches contribution to the sumping problem I do not miss the one I had on my 17 RKS, it was a pain to pull and did not have the same friction zone that my newer 114 Heritages manual clutch.

[@BaronvonOldenbiker]

A Roadking 114 would be nice.

[@aaronjohnson9984]

Or get an Indian Springfield like I did. It looks good even with the bags off.

[@cornbread8246]

Hey Man Mountain Mike, I’m a Road King guy…period! It’s the most versatile bike in the HD line up. The problem with the RKS is the price point. It’s only $1,000 less than the RG & SG. You get a lot more for the extra $1,000 on those bikes than you do on the RKS. I know for a fact that HD corporate pays attention to this channel. That’s why Man Mountain Mike was invited to Vegas. HD, If you want to move some metal, stick a 121 on the RKS or upgrade it with a 117 and drop the price to 20-21K. Another idea is to put a factory quick detach faring on it , a rear suspension upgrade and leave it at the current price point. That’s my thoughts on the RKS. I’m out for now. Y’all peace out and ride safe.

[@gordonwrichert8240]

DONT WAIT FOR A HARLEY SUSPENSION GO AFTER MARKET AND GET WHAT YOU NEED

[@thelost_woods]

Street bob needs a 5 gal tank. 17k for a bike with a 3 gal tank is absolute blasphemy. Oh and also chrome out the low rider and it'll fly off the shelves

[@MadMexism]

I bought the 2020 Softail standard , and threw on the softail slim 5 gallon tank. Made the bike look perfect! The street Bob with a 114 definitely needs the 5 gallon tank.

[@thelost_woods]

@@MadMexism is your gas guage accurate? I've heard people having inaccurate readings when doing that but idk how true that is

[@MadMexism]

@@thelost_woods I put the fuel pump that was made for that tank, and fuel gauge was accurate. I ran the bike until empty. Did a 700 mile trip. Super accurate:

[@tommartin1223]

Facts

[@duder280z]

The street Bob is a 4 gallon tank

[@JA-zh5xi]

If I were Harley here’s what I would do: 1) cut the Nightster, sportster s, live wire, softail standard. 2) add springer deluxe and Bronx

[@TobyNorthEN]

Good predictions. Livewire is no longer part of HD's platform. It's a subordinate and "separate" company. It's still losing money but apparently, that's no surprise to the Motor Co. per the Q3 Shareholders Meeting.

[@STATION26ADDISON]

I was just at my Harley-Davidson store yesterday and here in Michigan and they said that that live wire even though it's not part of Harley anymore but kind of still is...... horrible absolutely horrible they're not getting any people much of anybody in there buying that shit ​@@TobyNorthEN

[@paulwojnar2291]

JA-zh5xi Thank you for not killing the Pan America Special. I have a 2024 and I absolutely love this bike. I use it daily and for touring. As mine was built in the York Plant I think Harley should absolutely NOT move domestic Rev Max production to Thailand. Huge mistake.

[@thefactorymatch]

That would be wild if they ditched the RK but also would not be too surprised. They could definitely move more RK’s if price was more reasonable. I hear a lot of people wanting lowers on the SG and RG, that has to be a must one way or another next year. Great video as always!

[@williamrose8944]

A good seller would be an Electra Glide Standard with a 117 engine they would sell alot of them bare bones

[@JA-zh5xi]

If HD moves away from the limiteds they will lose millions. It will be much cheaper to get a touring package aftermarket.

[@STATION26ADDISON]

The limiteds I think are a strong point to the Harley family it'd be a shame to lose that

[@zilari3662]

I would prefer a road king putting aftermarket fairing for music Then the new computer display on the new road/street glide. less distraction riding

[@2hotFL]

I sure hope you're right about the standard Road King coming back. The other thing I'd like to see is the option of getting cast wheels on the Heritage.

[@brettdavis80]

And if cast wheels aren’t offered as an option on the Heritage you can purchase them separately from Harley. Going for $700 per wheel. Not including adding tires and the labor to install. Remember, Harley loves us for upgrading, especially if you buy your upgraded parts from them😂

[@pyrolysis2129]

The softail standard looked so much better with the wire wheels. It really nailed the stripped down Harley look with those wheels. The old regular low rider was nice too. This is coming from a Road King Special owner.

[@harrykain285]

Bring back the 883 Sportster

[@WastelandRacer]

I love the road king special but it is priced way too high. If Harley priced the RKS about 4k lower than the street/ road glide they will fly off the shelves

[@timothydardar4909]

Would like to see a 5 gallon tank on the Softail standard

[@silkycherry]

I think there will be a upgrade on the Street Bob. Like suspension, Cruise control or a 117 engine upgrade. Maybe a larger Tank like they did with the Breakout?

[@ihknilsen]

I dont think the street Bob needs the 117. Keep the softail standard and drop the price by at least $1000.

[@garyrhode3755]

I also hope HD keeps the Softail standard as the entry point to the Softail platform...

[@GeoRides114]

Love the video, getting hype about 2025 for sure!

[@jagjr6772]

Not sure why Harley-Davidson continues this " big reveal secret" I don't and bet most customers care for it anymore. It has turned into a really stale marketing tactic. Just release the 2025 like Indian and every automobile manufacturer does. The Softail Standard needs a bigger gas tank more than it does an engine. Their latest earnings release was awful. Whatever price increases come with 2025 is going to be a deal killer unless they come up some promotional rates through HDFS. Also, models that are moving to Thailand production for import back to the US might as well stay on the ship.

[@michaelwhite5834]

I've been saying for years that I miss the RK. I loved mine and would still ride one if they made them. Honestly, a RK fits my life better than my RG. But with LED's, if they do bring them back, they milked the halogens way past their due date.

[@sparkyastwo]

Thanks Mike! Keep up the great content.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Thanks for watching!

[@brookcampbell2940]

If the Low Rider ST remains the same, I will go to the used market. Was hoping for better suspension on the Low Rider ST. Missed opportunity H-D!

[@kidonnitro]

Was at harley yesterday for the recal on my 24. They said no changes next year except a few colors and bikes will be 2k more.

[@nevillegreg1]

Pan America will die a slow death unless HD "keeps up with the Jones" and starts holding owner specific off-road events in overseas countries. We have seen the likes of BMW and Ducati and Triumph having proper navigation options, lane assist and smart cruise control tech together with greater rider mode customization and increased power and torque numbers. The only upgrades on the PAm in 4 years, well, not really upgrades, instead just fixes to the issues plaguing the 1st 3 year model years. Oh, HD did do a quick shifter option upgrade after being criticised by many reviewers for not having it available for the 2021 model.

[@gordonwrichert8240]

alot of this new teck is what is pushing the prices up my cvo has linked brakes and abs and they work great i dont need the traction control corning assist riding modes and a computer that rides the bike for me iam the rider and thats my job simple is better always has been people ride bikes becouse they want to be out of their cars be on the road and feel what is around you not spending half an hour programing you bike before you leave the drive way

[@jim6782]

I've talked with several shops that already have color sheets for 2025 models. Just have to ask the right people. New Low Rider ST coming in Brilliant Red (with chrome) and a Blue color (with chrome) in addition to Black and Gray with black trim (plus couple other colors). The chrome models will have higher performance cam as well. Still with 117 CI. New M8 heads, and new technology on the ST. Also, ALL LEDs finally. About time. Going to be a sick ride!!! Mark my words - wait until the official announcements.

[@jasonbreedlove495]

Regarding the RG3 and the Softail Standard, both while i was selling out in East Texas, were the bikes that moved fast. We couldnt keep the RG3 on the floor. The standard was an easy comparison towards the nightster, and that entry level bike. The fact of having tons of options available and getting that "big twin" bike led to 2 sales for me alone. Some good ideas and thoughts, looking forward to more options for the new Roadglides.

[@tommyjusz]

I like that Limited "Option" Better than have a completely different model that is a very specific customer. Dealers around me always have leftovers

[@talkingrock7011]

I agree with package deals being available and the 35th anniversary Fat Boy model , and the end of mid year model being released .

[@1190Shellback]

I was actually looking at the cvo rg when I learned about Harley shipping jobs to Thailand and planning on going all electric. I wouldn’t spend a dime at the dealership until they get a new CEO. In the meantime, I’m hopping on that super cruiser 2025.

[@87ricer]

Awesome predictions .... Harley-Davidson doing that would make it a surprise for sure since alot of people can figure it out .....

[@harryhowell5644]

Went to Arkansas for the first time last week. Rode the pig trail to eureka springs. Rode the Ozark scenic highway back to Clarksville I believe. We started in hot springs and also stayed in Russellville. Really want to ride up to Branson and lake of the Ozarks. I hear that is nice.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@harryhowell5644 check out the ride from Cassville East on 76. That’s a great ride also leaving Branson West and riding down to peel ferry is a great loop. I really like Highway 19 and Highway 42 in Missouri as well.

[@gordonwrichert8240]

i have a 2015 roadglide cvo that has every thing a rider needs i ride it its paid for and harley has not shown me anything so far that will make me get rid of it

[@waltersylwesiuk7563]

I hope that Road King continues. I also hope for (belated 30th) anniversary / CVO model (2014 last version)!!!

[@ejdtm]

I think they will have the limited upgraded for 25 and chrome options for the street Bob in Lowriders

[@Dropkicksouthy]

I think all the softails get the sportster info speedometer and controls so everything will be the same and all will have ride modes.

[@Bkamaclean]

I think they will drop the Softail standard and keep the Streetbob as is...just color changes.

[@PapaBiker]

I am really hoping they come out with a Low Rider ST CVO

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I am hearing pretty good updates for the 2025 LRST

[@sanibelinfluenced5015]

Great video!

[@g4dan1]

If they were to come out with a Triglide with the 121 and the new dash/ electronics then I would consider a trade up. But, other than that probably won’t be in the market this year. I currently own a LRST and a Triglide CVO for long distance with the wife.

[@xanbiker]

Good info as usual 👌

[@harleyquebecenrevue3580]

I still don’t see the limited’s as being a package dealer install. I believe the Limited SG & RG will be the big touring WOW bikes for 2025 with the improved suspensions you have been hearing about and more goodies.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@harleyquebecenrevue3580 i will be okay with being wrong if that’s the case!

[@macmac3770]

Unfortunately from my local dealer they’ve been informed that the limiteds are out.

[@brookcampbell2940]

Where is the new FXR or racing style bagger?

[@ChadLand011]

I'll be looking at new ones when Furor of the woke Zeitz gets lost.

[@MichaelH416]

Put a Road Glide front on a Tri-Glide. It will take off.

[@bradwilliams4921]

I don't have the information on sales for the Softail Standard with the 107 but I think that it is an excellent bike for younger new riders entering the Harley-Davidson Motorcycle lifestyle. As for the Limited's, not everyone wants a Road Glide or Street Glide. Some people are more geared towards traveling 2 up so a Limited makes sense. I would hate to see Harley-Davidson do away with the factory built luxury Touring bikes but that's just my opinion

[@hd_av_traveler1495]

Awesome video as always sir

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@hd_av_traveler1495 thanks!

[@W9HJBill]

RG3's are all the rave as far as new sales in PA. I have a TriGlide and honestly, if I knew the RG3 was coming out before I did a Stage 2 on my TG, I would have gotten the RG3. I ride 99% solo and under 300 miles at a time, and the RG3 is perfect for that.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@W9HJBill that’s great to hear!

[@DirkDiggler-p5q]

Putting a 12 in. mono shock in the Street Bob is really stupid !! One big problem with the Road King and trikes is they still have the 114CI. Every bike should have the new 117CI except the CVO's Motorcycle sales for HD are down 15% and this is after HD dropped prices and added many updates to the RG & SG. 2025 could be a rough year for HD.

[@frankfurther3828]

Douche Jochen needs to add another 12 engine choices to the 47-engine lineup. RIP HD Inc, 1903-1999.

[@fragtastic4]

My only complaint about my 24 RG is that there are no lower fairings available. I'd like to get rid of my Ultra and turn my RG into more of a long haul bike. Need some lowers for that.

[@gunz2090]

Not holding my breath, but heard a guy predict possible non CVO ST model with the 121......I'd probably be buyer on that ...Want to do a 135

[@javonbrandon]

Hope we get a road glide 3 with the new faring

[@djthemotorcycleguy]

In reference to the RG3 , Steel City Harley-Davidson in Washington, PA converted a new 2024 Tri-Glide into a Road Glide Tri-Glide. Unfortunately it hasn't sold yet so I don't know if the Tri-Glide with a Road Glide fairing is that desirable.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Cool

[@djthemotorcycleguy]

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[@noonespecial1217]

It would be nice to see the 2025 Lowrider S & ST models receive Gen 2 M8 121ci engines. Skipping the old oil lines for some cooled heads. I also predict a CVO ST Street Glide. And yes, the Nightster stays for 2025. They’ve got a startup niche in the socials aftermarket. HD is on to it.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@noonespecial1217 I could see them getting the water cooled 117 but not the 121 yet. The CVO would have to get something new and the 121 is only 18 months old…

[@hizacaine]

There is going to be a bright red Road Glide, it's in promotional material.

[@macmac3770]

Mike, it was confirmed to me yesterday at my local dealer that the Limiteds are indeed no longer. It was from corporate to dealers so it’s on to the packages for touring systems. 🤬

[@RetiredCHP13374]

along with all the shop labor costs to install!

[@hizacaine]

They're going to make a club style that's lighter, taller with a shorter wheelbase than the softails, but less ugly than the revmax bikes, it's be called the Special American or MFXR. I wish.

[@metcruza5536]

As a fella who's done a knee and back was hoping HD would bring out a proper Sporty but looks like they're happy to let Indian take that market. Shame but there you go.

[@maconmiles2057]

My list of things I would like to see is a RK standard with chrome/black options. Street Bob 117 with inverted forks. Brink the Softail Deluxe back. Keep the Nightster base model but make the S model with inverted forks and duel disk. The sportster S should be replaced with a modern Roadster with the 1250. I expect the softail standard to go away as all HD has done is constantly jack the price up as they did the evo sportster until they were done away with. The standard is over priced for what it is and pointless when the street bob is just a little more in price.

[@metcruza5536]

Don't see any nightsters around. As I've said they've let Indian take the Sporty market A proper Sporty with even the 975 would at sub 10k would be a decent seller imo

[@ejdtm]

I think they will have the limited upgraded for 25

[@sobedaytona]

They have to do an update on the Pan America. European bikes against which it is supposed to compete have much shorter lifecycle than traditional Harley Davidson. And they are back at EICMA, the biggest event in Europe. They cannot come empty handed..

[@Motorcyclewindtherapy]

Or... there's nothing new because the ceo and board are determined to destroy the company! I'll be on the sidelines until they go and the company TRULY apologizes. 🍿😎

[@o2tank046]

What is JS’s channel name?

[@pfoster7467]

Jay Sorsby

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I just added a link in the Description!

[@NorCal-refrigeration]

Hopefully the Thailand 🇹🇭 built pan Americans will have the frame brackets welded on straight! 🤘⚡️🤘✨✨✨

[@tabou1]

how about a fat boy with a 121 and a bigger tank for just $20K

[@HowardHunt-s7z]

No such thing as a Road King Standard. Road King wet head would be nice. Limiteds will go away. No sense in producing two touring frames. You'll build your touring bike with optional accessories. Softail will have minimal changes. Rev Max to Thailand will kill it.

[@okanaganrider4332]

Upgrade upgrade upgrade! Spend more money.

[@eddiebenzz]

No way in hell I’m gonna pay 30 to 45,000 for junk that requires a better suspension …. You kidding me ?

[@hizacaine]

The Low Rider ST will be offered in pretty colors, nah, that's never going to happen.

[@jamessouthworth1699]

New for 2025, The WALL STREET GLIDE.

[@hizacaine]

The motor company will add comfortable seats to the softails, just kidding, that was never an option.

[@josephintile9766]

When in December for colors; early,mid, or end?

[@six.....]

I think rg3 goes away and the tri glide becomes the tri road glide

[@d.f.9064]

Unless its a smaller bike, a more affordable model.... ENOUGH tourers and baggers! I'm not interested. Im more interested in the Livewires than these dinosaurs. Why not make a bike people can afford and ride?

[@StephenJohnson-jr5hp]

A Rev Max Softail, an EV Cruiser (longer range) and new marketing (Mind your own F*cking business, ride your bike).

[@markmcintosh7095]

A dealer told me there would be ride modes on the Low Rider st for 25.

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@markmcintosh7095 I figured they are coming!

[@hizacaine]

They're going to make something easier to fix. Nope. What, are you nuts?

[@joshuanuss3692]

My wife has a nighster, should’ve bought a low rider for instead.

[@keithw1966]

How about ceo and board that respects our countries values?

[@RidingintheOzarks]

@@keithw1966 I did a video about my feelings on the DEI WOKE topic. This video is not that video.

[@keithw1966]

​@@RidingintheOzarksHarley knows how to fix the problem and refuse. Build expensive crap and all is hunky dory? No!

[@stevebeard7667]

The 2024 colors are horrendous. Whoever dreamed them up should be fired. Harleys used to be a work of art. Now it's just a single color and a stuck on tank emblem. No more two-tone or nice emblems or panted logo they are all just bla.

[@LachlanButler-m7p]

Im just gonna buy an Indian, and be very satisfied

[@RidingintheOzarks]

Good luck!

[@leudwigvonshwartsenhelm3624]

The forward controls need to be a few inches more forward!

[@stevenpierce4359]

I will stay with my RKS 131 2020 iam 72years old

[@JohnSmith-de2mz]

I'm a Dyna rider that thinks the Nightster is a great bike and they better keep it, just clean up the looks of the motor especially on the left side. Look at Triumph Bonnies, they are water cooled too but look like the old air cooled ones, very clean looking. And the exhaust is UGLY

[@RidingintheOzarks]

I think the Nightster Special kills the Nightster for Value. That why I said kill the base model. I agree is is visually lacking and needs customization options.

[@JohnSmith-de2mz]

@@RidingintheOzarks They need to clean up the looks of that engine, cast some fins on it like the new Bonneville did, it's water cooled too but the engine is very clean looking. The Rev engine has pipes and tubes and wires running all over it. And they need to put an equal length head pipe stainless exhaust on it too. Then lastly a SuperGlide style full rear fender like a Dyna. That would be a Great looking motorcycle