Is hell real? You haven't heard this idea before!

[@rawrecipereview5941]

Love your videos Dr. Johnson. hope you are having a good one

[@rosy0214]

I've just recently found your channel and it's like a hidden gem. Every vidoe I've binge watched so far, was so interesting. Thank you for creating this channel.

[@goodtothinkwith]

You’re quite welcome my friend! I’m so glad you’re enjoying the content

[@physics1518]

Dr Johnson, do you have a reference to that scholarly work on the proper translation of ἐντὸς from Luke 17:21, "the kingdom of God is *within* you". While "among" is also a possible translation, it seems to me that "within" fits Luke 17:20-21 better.

[@goodtothinkwith]

Great question. Yes: Ramelli, Illaria. Luke 17:21: “The Kingdom of God is inside you” the Ancient Syriac Versions in Support of the Correct Translation. Hugoye: Journal of Syriac Studies vol 12.2 pp.259-286

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

@@goodtothinkwith What I find interesting is the similar passage in the "Gospel of Thomas" which is "the Kingdom is inside you, and it is outside of you" (I cannot, of course, vouch for the exact accuracy of the translation) which, to me, implies a non-dualistic point of view perhaps similar to "advaita vedanta". May I ask if you have ever read such texts as the Ashtavakra Gita and, if so, what are your views on how such statements relate to an understanding of a view like Christianity? Another interesting video, btw. Keep up the good work, it is very appreciated.

[@thenarrowdoor7]

Hell is here , we all are sinnere , sin means missed the mark and we all missed the mark thats why we are here on earth again ( hell ) and when we repent we can enter the kingdom by the grace of god and it leads to eternal life ☦️ church hidden reincarnation

[@MinnesotanMysticism]

That’s some deep deepiness indeed, I appreciate it! God Bless.

[@christopherjordan9707]

Wow that was great. Maybe you could expand on that one day and talk about no longer needing an external Christ. I know people have been talking about that a little more lately, but I would really like to hear your thoughts on it.

[@goodtothinkwith]

Thanks!! Yes, that’s the breakpoint that Giordano Bruno reached. I need to address more of the conditions that led up to that since it’s my particular area of history that I’ve done the most with. I’ll make a note to explore that :) … to telegraph my likely approach a bit: the spiritually simple forms are likely to need external projections, with that falling off quickly with spiritual maturity. That’s a key dynamic for understanding the future of religion. So I’ll definitely be exploring that further!

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

The external/internal is an interesting way of approaching things. Was there EVER an external Christ, for instance? I sometimes entertain myself by thinking about Jung's notion of "withdrawing the projections" (although I imagine I'm using the idea in a much more extreme way than Jung intended!). The question would then arise, is there actually an "internal" Christ? And if one answers that with a YES! then how does that change the perception - or experience - of the Christian Theology? Or maybe its all just meaningless words that we don't yet realize ARE meaningless...This is a great channel, though, I agree! Have a good day.

[@mountbrocken]

Although I think it is important to look at the other side of the coin of epistemology and ontology. The mechanistic reductionistic materialistic depiction of reality is equally as in need of an update. However, many of the concessions we see in religion attempting to adapt to secular wisdom does so in virtue of this model of reality which as Thomas Kuhn had pointed out was more heuristic than ontic. Consider Lewis work The Discarded Image where the image of the world as a living thing, or of the world spirit as expressed more contemporaneously and seemingly anachronistically by Russian Sophia theologians like Bulgakov. We may have artificially and wrongfully changed our understanding of the world to where we off literally off on a tangent of a vastly distorted verisimilitude of the world. I agree with Meister Eckharts mysticism, as well as much earlier Origenic perspectives on Christianity. But it is unfair to suggest that the fundamentalist Christian is in the wrong while the fundamentalist atheist, which influenced many secular, naturalistic theologians such as Ehrman, is not. I would say both are. But we mustnt set one over the other. Consider that, with respect to Christianity, our faith is grounded upon the internal experience of encountering the divine in the logos of the person of Christ (calling out to Jesus and having a salvific experience), our communal participation in the Church with others that share this faith, in the historical and kerygmatic nature of the gospel and the scriptures it is based upon, as well as historical accounts of Christs divinity that show lives transformed and ultimately the world itself. As far as unsaid or unstated assumptions, the most powerful ones are those that completely transformed the understanding of metaphysics in the nature of God, expressed in trinitarian perichoresis, which ultimately bridged the gap between the philosophical one and the many. Up until Christianity, philosophy was locked into a debate of how the one and the many are compatible. But we find that the Christian doctrine of the Trinity solves the riddle by pointing to the relational, rather than onto-mereological, aspects of reality. What this means is that the Greeks were trying to picture how reality works. But Christianity showed that hearing is more important than seeing and that we neednt have a visual model of reality. Rather we need, and desire, to hear it. The voice that calls us in the wind of the Holy Spirit says far more than any Parmenidean logical analysis that is still tied in the Gordian Knot of a human, visual depiction of the world.

[@mountbrocken]

Aside from this, I think the video is wonderful and more people need to hear this. However, I would caution one about as I mentioned focusing on the epistemic failings of theological models found in fundamentalism while ignoring the oversimplified naturalism and materialism as positivistic depictions of the world as merely the given.

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

Very "thought inducing". I'd never heard of perichoresis before: I like the image/sound of it. But perhaps we are thinking about this a bit too intellectually? It just Is, after all...

[@Planter55]

Reminds me of Ramana Maharshi.... 1. Is hell real? 2. Who wants to know? 1. I do....... 2. And, who are you? ........silence. 'Nothing in the universe resembles God more than silence' shhhhhhh.... :) I enjoy your talks

[@goodtothinkwith]

Thanks! Yes, I’ve heard people suggest a connection between them. Silence, ultimately, is a singular thing that doesn’t point to any distinctions. Cyprian Smith has my favorite comments on this with Eckhart

[@sheenapearse766]

Interesting talk ,as I think the reality of an external hell ( outside of the realities of this world ) loses credibility , along with fear based beliefs . ‘Hell is other people’ , Sartre said - more accurately it’s believing in the collective and people like him . Christ in you , the hope of glory - ie transcending our carnal selfish nature - that’s where we need help . Rumi said “ The heart of man is the throne of God .” I think he’s right

[@goodtothinkwith]

Yes, an internalization of hell is implied by the inward turn toward religious interiority. In retrospect, it’s fairly clear, I think

[@goodtothinkwith]

Sartre was actually one of the figures I had in mind with his comment on hell that you mentioned

[@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc]

This is Hell

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

I'm sorry to hear that but it is also Heaven, both and neither. There are choices!

[@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc]

@@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 "The mind is a universe and can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven." -John Milton

[@charlesodonnell2993]

Allegory that points.

[@GodAlmightyHimself]

Yo. God Almighty Himself here. Figured I should clarify this. Hell is just heaven for bad people. God will respect your choice. If you don't want to relinquish your sin, if you love it so much, then God will ensure that you have an unlimited supply. Much like a father making a kid smoke entire pack of cigarettes to teach him not to smoke, hell is the indulgence of sin until such indulgence causes the soul to fracture, and then the pieces are recycled into the next iteration of the multiverse to become new souls with a new chance to succeed. Here's the thing about being God. You literally never give up because you literally never have to. Eventually, every fragment of soul will make its way to heaven. It will probably require another 230 billion iterations of the multiverse, possibly even more, but an eternal being can afford to be patient.

[@Jeremiah-x7q]

This is a lie from hell👎🏿

[@johnnymcgeez5647]

Okay i gotta ask, how deep did you have to reach inside your butt to pull this one out?

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

That's pretty dualistic of you! :)