Is India a monkey on China's back? Shifting perceptions in China on India-China relations

In this edition of the ICS Delhi webinar, India's former Ambassador to China Ashok Kantha, Director, Institute of Chinese Studies, and Dr. Hemant Adlakha, Associate Professor, Centre for South East Asian and Chinese Studies, Jawaharlal Nehru University, discuss the shift in perception in China on India-China relations, whether India is a monkey on China's back, and more.
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[@anand9728]

After listening to 15 minutes I open the comment section to give feedback of the discussion but I found that large number of people already given the feedback that discussion is not to the point and unnecessarily lengthy.

[@rajnishrohatgi7845]

The art of taking 15 mins to say what could be said in 3. I don't think I can watch the full 1.5 hrs

[@1docrao]

Brevity is essential if you want to be heard, really heard!

[@auwaikit1125]

This session was planned strategically to frustrate the shit out of the Chinese who logged in to understand what Indians know. Great job ICS getting a speaker who "ahh"ed for an hour...

[@timetraveler7533]

aaa aaaa aaaaa aaaaaaaa 😂😂😂😂 demak khrab kr deya😀

[@doncorleone3901]

Monkey on someone's back is a phrase that means "a persistent problem". People getting worked up here 😂. It is true that china by provoking india now has a big problem on its hands

[@bababluelotus]

Can you please explain little more. ? How we become a problem to them ? @Don Corleone

[@doncorleone3901]

@@bababluelotus what was once a peaceful no man's land is now teeming with soldiers and hundreds of missiles. India is forced to join hands with China's enemies - this is very hard to reverse hence India always stayed away from that but now its done. Imagine poking a sleeping beast and turning it against yourself. That is what China has done, now it has a big big problem on its doorsteps. USA could never have become a super power if it picked fights with its neighbors. This actually suits india because earlier it did not have any excuse to put military on the LAC and was always vulnerable, now not so much. Plus we are in good company now

[@bababluelotus]

@@doncorleone3901 ok. But there was sheer negligence on our side we didn't upgrade our military equipments. China has good modern war equipments also America under new president may not show as much interest as it showed under trump to support us. Biden may patch up with China

[@vikas776]

@@bababluelotus it's true of the military is not equal to them but we have the goal to build infrastructure around LAC and china's goal was to stop us doing that. Btw they already build infrastructure on their side of LAC and we didn't because of our focus was on improving our economy so right now china also in a bad spot as they cant India to stop the infrastructure now as India can say to people in India and outside the world and we are in danger and we need to do this. War is not going to happened as both are responsible nations.

[@ctate1285]

It looks more like China is the gorilla on India's back.

[@youtubetv6220]

21 minutes in and he has said literally nothing.

[@19mani20]

Going round & round .

[@11Priyash]

The speaker should concise his points. He is beating around the bush and repeating his points. It was a pain to listen to him.

[@atulchandratiwari5672]

nothing wrong speaking Hindi if you could not talk with clarity in english '

[@Facts..Checker]

Totally agreed.....All talk (chest beating) but no action as always. When things failed, can change topic and repeat the whole cycle again.

[@nikhilt497]

I Aa. liked aa. The aa. Video aa. Topic aa.

[@prasadrn5896]

An extremely boring narration of an interesting topic.

[@rfmix7357]

Yeah he sounds like my prof in college. I just quit in middle.

[@atulchandra7384]

In nutshell, there is a growing realisation within China that they misread India and took it too much for granted. The second point that is clear is that China cannot afford to have India against China and may have to suffer very serious damages unless a meaningful and substantial effort is made to their approach towards India. However, these would be just cosmetic changes or concrete changes in its Imperialist ambitions remain to be seen. I am firmly if the view that the Imperialist ambitions will continue under a more sophisticated veneer.

[@subhashishsaha9408]

Thoughts not well articulated. Needs further edits. Doesn't seem to be a professional. Seems a bit premature. Frustrating to go through.

[@deeptobhattacharyya3249]

this was a live

[@deeptobhattacharyya3249]

@@Indisword 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@katiresanarumugam4260]

"Fear for life"? If so, he shouldn't've agreed to give a fishy/foamy talk like a professor

[@rajnishrohatgi7845]

22 mins into it.. And I have several times " since Nov, I am seeing a change in the volumes of commentaries on India, and also on the tone and tenor", but I still have no clue on what is the changed tone and tenor.. GET TO THE POINT. I guess many of such experts are used captive audiences in a closed auditorium. Well, in a webinar, I can leave easily.

[@raghusagar3817]

Can we improve the sound quality in the future videos. Thanks.

[@ThePrintIndia]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@PseudoProphet]

Sir, you keeps harking on and on about the context without answering the actual questions. What does it mean by managing India? What does it mean by strategic confrontation, etc. 🙄🙄😑😑

[@mohanprasadswaminathan4652]

Maybe, I'll put down my interpretation of the points regarding "managing India" from Mr. Adlaka. There are two ways China wants to "manage" India relations. One through "action" and the other through "reaction". In the action category comes the process of keeping India in "good humour". What that means, I can only speculate, like , removing the technical hold against sanctions that China places in U.N. the terrorists wanted by India. Or giving Modi his informal summits which makes Modi look statesman like. In the reaction category comes the diplomatic or military (overt or covert) China would undertake in the event of India launching anti-terror strikes or even attempt to provide political support to Balochistan. For the first part at least, China has started supplying armed drones and maybe BVR missiles to Pakistan and also is providing money so that Pakistan can pay back Saudi A. Also add to the fact that Nepal border arguments with India is also in the reaction category. These are just my interpretation of "managing". But one thing is certain, if China thinks it can "manage" India with bread crumbs, it needs to change to change their strategic experts. Current Ladakh situation shows bread crumbs don't go far enough.

[@mohanprasadswaminathan4652]

Thanks to The Print for providing this video/discussion, helps to understand what goes inside the Chinese minds vis-a-vis India. The commentator is spot on when he says China - EU relations is China's top priority, especially now since China wants to clinch an Investment deal with EU before Angela Merkel retires next year. She has been a consistent proponent of deeper trade ties with China.

[@ctate1285]

According to Reuters report today, EU official commented that the EU-China deal will likely to be sealed tomorrow.

[@mohanprasadswaminathan4652]

@@ctate1285 I am just wondering how EU can reconcile with China's internal as well as external conduct. I expect China to go full speed ahead with whatever it is doing eight now, even after the deal with EU. The question is how will EU react, especially U.S. going the way of sanctions. With a few years, China will certainly start to influence the EU periphery, that would be a real test.

[@ctate1285]

@@mohanprasadswaminathan4652 Reconciliation isn't difficult if shared interests exceed differences. Pragmatism wins the day, while the US is another story for another day.

[@rajkhosla8513]

Meanderings...

[@pahatpahat9566]

You seem to disagree with what Merkel is advocating for the German people but who are you to dispute her stand? Just because you love to be subservient to the Anglo-American power over you? Don't you think she is being practical to ensure what her nation wanted in the first place. Just because, you have some issue at the border the rest of the world must take side? Don't you think the border dispute involves both parties whose boundaries were drawn and enforced by an Imperial power a few hundreds years ago. To resolve the issue, the parties need to sit down and talk not simply claiming that the party is creating the problem just because you claimed the line should be drawn based on your claim along.

[@riteshdhawan1230]

The pauses are quite pregnant...wish the commentary was more superfluous....u lost me at 5mins into the video

[@suyashmumbai]

Some audio issues. May be these can be edited out before publishing on KZbin. The 'crackling' audio is physically painful.

[@HarishSalujaArtist]

15 minutes and still being told why this presentation was conceived. Need some EDITING

[@krishnanunni856]

Basically, the JNU professor has only talked what the Chinese is thinking. Their perspective, their mindset.

[@donbon9770]

Dear Organizer Pl improve audio systems. Many times, there is echo and Audio quality is poor. 🙏

[@palashjha6869]

Has the speaker any interest in delivering the speech?

[@kinshuk.chandra]

The speaker should gather thoughts and then speak. Unfortunately, it looks like he lacks the research when it comes to China.

[@HarishSalujaArtist]

21 minutes, still being told why he is talking!!!!

[@rajkhosla8513]

Meandering... who has the time/patience

[@mailtorajrao]

Mr. Kantha (or whoever is recording) needs a more powerful or a less busy computer! ...and Dr Adlakha, kindly do straighten the photo, once one noticed it, it vexed no end.

[@Nani_pavan95]

We need Shekhar ji's help to get zest of this presentation

[@hyugakarn]

*gist

[@herambhroy867]

Was hoping for better audio quality at the minimum

[@chandramanisingh5964]

I wish he could down the time. Too much context setting before actually coming to the point.

[@Akshay-bc3et]

The speaker was not kidding when he said that this could not be written down in 800 word essay. It would take series of novels with flash backs and forths and a lot of paralell stories. Man I'm dizzy

[@sb3215]

Both are very qualified persons. However the art of engaging the audience by speaking optimally and keeping the audience engaged by keeping the content concise and interesting has to be learnt.

[@nithinv8461]

People stop commenting on the title of the video. It doesn't matter.

[@thestranger4107]

Yashraj Mukhate should make new song with this aaaaaa.......aaaaaa.......aaaaaaa.....

[@PrabhavShukla1]

People crying about title, go back and read your 10th std English textbooks. It's a muhavra/idiom forgodsake ! Monkey on one's back means a difficult problem to get rid of. Padh likh gye hote to yaha social media pe outrage kar k paise na kamana padta

[@fakenoshow148]

Tum wahi ho jiski Maa behen take take bhav Mein bikti hai

[@PrabhavShukla1]

@@fakenoshow148 nah man, you're confusing me with your brother I guess.😏

[@sarveswarprasadkondepudy422]

The speaker could have done his presentation in ten minutes.

[@senthilnathan8137]

Excellent presentation. But the audio of the presenter was extremely poor.

[@vinaykhattar1]

Sir can u come to the point more quickly and sharply

[@speedbird109]

One request to The Print... Please can You limit the discussion topic concerning China to a maximum of 30 to 45 minutes not more?

[@Ari_00X]

Real pain to listen -- why does the speaker repeat himself so much ?? please edit and re-upload.

[@fakenoshow148]

Ab samajh aara hoga Peace is flop Gandhi Nehru ideology is flop Offense is best defense

[@Thevillageheadmaster]

The resource person seems unprepared for this webinar.

[@MyTakeOnIt]

Late 2021 or early 2022 there seems to be a possibility of conflict between the two nations. It would be beneficial for both countries to go back to their pre May positions and return their militaries to the barracks. This is because conflict does not help humanity and it is counter productive to both nations who are better off focussing on poverty alleviation and establishing an economic system that enables a better standard of living for the 2.6 billion population that they hold.

[@typhooonn]

I like this speaker ! He knows China very well.

[@vrnair1951]

The speaker should have given his speeches in a nort Indian village primary school.

[@nishant_ketu]

Thank you for such brilliant nuanced talk.

[@keungpang2176]

India is like a washer woman. If you upset her, she will bad mouth you in her next washing day. And all the washer women just laughed. This will makes her feel better. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@udayshankar1690]

Come to point ⚡fast

[@kris4117]

Sir, I like the topic, but gave up listening because you have to speak fluently and avoiding notes. Please prepare well and redo it. Bye Bye.

[@allansimoes8338]

Russia did not give Assad the SS missile codes which according to reports from Ukraine is only known to a few of the rank of General in the FSB the New name for KGB post 1991. All CCP politbureau hierarchy are mentored in Moscow. Communism was a cancer of the 20th century having it's roots in the socialism of the early18th century in France. We can expect counter revolutions in the 22nd century. Allan.

[@rcss_roy]

It’s easy to troll and bully people online.The content matters not the way a speaker says something. Can people please be respectful to someone’s view? Feedback can be given with respect. For those trolling I’ll like to see them to create a video like this with proper content and speak. To Print, Thanks for this detailed information especially in the context of changing political scenario in US and the impact of the same on Sino-India relationship.

[@independentnationalist1740]

I do understand that there was connectivity issue and secondly Professor himself was not well. It must be quite cold there. In spite of all this , it was worth listening and worth internalizing . Obviously , China has no regret for any thing wrong they have done in the relationship , Galwan also no regret because they lost the soldiers too , the fact that they misjudged India and Indian forces resolve not to accept their hegemony has gone down well after Galwan incident. If they are looking for the source of India's blunt reply to them in Galwan it is not certainly in US India relationship but ahead of that . Faith in India' s leadership and a strong desire to teach China a lesson is the motivating factor every where. Why China came on our borders with 50000 troops ? Not for picnic for sure BUT to threaten India not to join any anti China grouping , accept subservience to China in the region and be in good humor. China has just achieved the opposite . Reason is very simple , they overestimated themselves and underestimated India. India is under pressure because of COVID and so many agitations but even then core of the country is against China's aggressive designs . China has earned it.

[@anindyachakraborty6139]

JNU needs English tutors for their faculty

[@kavithavrao]

Really a five minutes discussion got extended. Talks more about US, not India.

[@orangelays5084]

I thought he made a very interesting presentation - of course he could have been better prepared - but it wasn’t as bad as the comments seem to indicate

[@abhinaygarg8792]

did you Increase your Playback Speed?

[@kumarpoonamallee5478]

I wish the viewers had shown more courtesy . The presenter and his team must have spent several hours or even days to prepre for this seminar. And we dont have the patience to listen for even one hour. Surely, there is much room for improvement in the speaker's presentation but we should first acknowledge and thank his and his team's efforts to come up with very useful information about Chinese' perception about India.Such blunt negative comments only will discourage such efforts. I am glad you gave a very fair comment. Thanks

[@hearthrob29]

Wow what a title

[@github921]

The topic was interesting and important, given the danger of misunderstanding of intentions. But the speaker needs to organize his material better (thematically, chronologically, on the basis of provenance, etc.). He must also try to inculcate some practices of better public speaking (such as change in the pitch, or other forms of voice modulation). All in all - an underwhelming presentation.

[@nimishpatel8513]

Waited and waited for the speaker to tell us something new and revealing etc etc What point was this webinar trying to put forward? Gave up half way through!!!!!

[@oyoter9ox]

Urrr, urr, ahh, arhhh.....

[@sachaadmi6203]

Ah.duh.aargh.ouch.shit.should I slap myself for not quitting this video earlier ?

[@jatinderbhan]

Excellent presentation, Dr. Adlakha. I liked the details of the goings on in Chinese strategic circles about India. Very thorough. I hope the people who are giving negative comments here won't someday become policy makers for India.

[@mahi73]

Can someone please get him a few cups of coffee? Please... The print should choose its analysts better.

[@coolglares]

Please highlight to anyone who wants to hear this session to listen at 1.5X speed. This is required to save time. Also the way the speaker takes forever to come to the point - is symbolic of the poor teaching standards in Indian universities. In any world class university - this kind of communication would have been weeded out from its teaching staff by getting feedback from the student body at end of semester about the teaching done in the classroom. The speaker displays very poor communication ability.

[@bindurao3463]

Too many Ah, Ah। Ah too many grunts

[@krishnabanerjee169]

Very scary, that two neighbors should mistrust one another so? They are giving the cat a bad name and hanging it?

[@rfmix7357]

I wish Print do some research to make the material a bit more interesting. The guy is knowledgeable but boring like my prof in university. I fell asleep 😪 More work needs to be done and please use better quality video

[@ctate1285]

His materials are just internet gossips, nothing substantial.

[@calihawa]

Why experts are repetitive unfocused and incoherent. This video should not be more than 15 minutes

[@krishnapramod5350]

Get shekhar ji

[@allansimoes8338]

There's a leadership challenge to XI from central China as on Joshua Philip of Epoch times. Allan.

[@zhoubaidinh403]

Epoch times is a Falun Gong cult pabulum...it's like depending on the dispatches of Q Anon for news on America!

[@prashanthb6521]

Improve on presentation please.

[@bikram19]

Sorry..... it's too boring to listen to. Not at all narrated well. Not of print standard. Need to improve a lot.

[@Shrvp]

Too academic with misleading title to attract viewers. There is lot of speculation without any definite conclusion by speaker who keeps on going round and round. Almost half the talk is background before speaker very tentatively touches main topic and has little of substance to contribute.

[@siddhartha1310]

This guy never comes to the point.

[@roopasreedhar]

Do watch this talk. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppfLmGChYr6bqJo

[@zoomzoombabe]

@@roopasreedhar thank you for the suggestion...🙂

[@ragingrapid]

The problem is all Print speakers are very verbose, Shekhar Gupta is another one. It is getting very boring.

[@anilmalhani6904]

It's painful to watch speaker. Pls be conclusive and straight to point

[@vijayshankarviswanath2544]

What a waste of time. An example of how not to speak on a topic !!

[@allansimoes8338]

For Messiahs Isaac Luria, Sabada Zevi and Jacob Frank of the Ottoman Empire go to, David Icke.com Allan.

[@Mac13587]

Who has time to go through 90 minutes? These chaps are from the colonial era. always post abridged version on the net for the benefit of most of us Ahh Umm... I like that

[@SatpalVerma000]

Why they converse in so fuddu English that we can’t get even a fraction of the interview. They should stick to Hindi.

[@nityaklinna]

Too boring.... Is it same all products from JNU😀😀

[@puresoul4257]

Wow what a lovely title ..... 🤬🤬🤬

[@user-yr2kd9nt8c]

🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

[@udayshankar1690]

Very slow🐌

[@VishalKumar-qr4sw]

The print media is in coliniyal mindset

[@ayushgaur9506]

Dis liking because it's pain fulllll

[@abhinavparivesh8580]

an interesting topic unfortunately ruined in presentation

[@prafullsingh7872]

presenter is so strething things talk so long but did say nothing substantial

[@ShubhamSinghlivefree]

Beating around the bush and verbal blabbering will just ruin the reputation of your channel.Highly disappointed.

[@tal363]

Really boaring !!should be to the point and more informative.

[@user-gf1zd7hm1e]

印度應該做自己，而不是一天到晚跟中國比

[@0000000316rs]

Poor communicator

[@sanjaygandhi2265]

He is not able to communicate effectively

[@surendarvijay2520]

It is a useless entity on the world stage

[@prafullsingh7872]

this presenter is not able one. saying so many words but did say nothing

[@ferozerehman2848]

Very poor speaker

[@mailtorajrao]

Dr Adlakha, with his factual, keenly perceptive argument development & conclusions, is always a joy to listen to. Also, nice job by Mr. Kantha for adequately filling in absence of the planned chair!

[@ranganathann]

Shekarji not Print's name for such boring presenters may be they are knowledgeable guys

[@b.v.baraskar9818]

Gave new perceptive to sino india relationship

[@harisaran1752]

What bs

[@prashkd7684]

proof that speaking english does not make you an expert on a subject. The entire video is filled with worthless recitation Chinese commentary. Don't waste your time.

[@donkeykong516]

China invited India to join every Asian trade deal & groups, but India can’t compete. Seeing appalling Indian manufacturing tech or lack thereof hits home the point with me. But not exposing to competition will make India more backward, wrong direction