I love them both. Calvin has really opened my eyes on the potential of an inline 6 though. I never imagined a grocery getter SUV engine could make the levels of horsepower Calvin gets out of these and survive. I'm an old dude so the V8 will always have a place in my heart, but those Vortec 4200's really haul the mail!
@T0tenkampf Жыл бұрын
agreed, I like playing with underutilized engines and was going to get into the Gen V LU3 V6 but I think the potential of this 4200 has changed my mind
@Terryray123 Жыл бұрын
Look up Ford barra or Nissan tb48.
@richb.4374 Жыл бұрын
@@Terryray123 I'm aware of those engines too. Great performers. Calvin's channel fascinates me because I own an old Trailblazer with a Vortec 4200 in it. I enjoy watching Calvin and his dad squeeze tons of power from them.
@ItsDaJax Жыл бұрын
Wait till you find out the Lima 2.3 can make about 500hp.
@richb.4374 Жыл бұрын
@@ItsDaJax Technology has come a long way for sure. My father had a 74 Olds Cutlass with a 350V8 (5.7 liter) and a 4 barrel carb. Being of the smog era, that engine was pathetic....factory rating was something like 180hp! The bone stock Vortec 4200 in my Trailblazer makes 110 hp more with two less cylinders and a hundred less cubic inches of displacement. I remember when the V8's were so badly detuned that 455 cubic inch (7.5 liter) big blocks were barely making 250hp. The Lima engine you mentioned would blow away any stock so called "High Performance" V8 of that era with ease.
@chippyjohn1 Жыл бұрын
You didn't note that bearings on an inline engine are usually larger, both in width and diameter due to no overlapping bearings.
@ericwilson2585 Жыл бұрын
Great video Sir. I've always thought that 7 main bearings were better than 5, especially with 6 cylinders on 7 mains compared to 8 cylinders on 5 mains.
@prevost8686 Жыл бұрын
It would seem so but the mighty Leaning Tower of Power only had 4 main bearings and held up quite well.
@ericwilson2585 Жыл бұрын
@@prevost8686 Oh yes, I see what you're saying. Now that I think about it, I think the Ford flat head V8 had only 3 main bearings.
@MrTheHillfolk4 ай бұрын
All about keeping that twist under control . Kinda crazy looking at an old Chevy 350 with that crank hanging out of the block and not skirted in there at all. They definitely flexed a lot and that causes heavy bearing wear. Sure they'd do it , but show you how they protest in the bearing wear.
@MichaelBraid-xf3dw8 күн бұрын
Slant Six 4 mains same part from the 426 Hemi
@lazyhoundracing9621 Жыл бұрын
You did a great job explaining this. I'm building a 53 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup for drag and drive. Old school. Inline 6 292 (308). Ryan Falconer drivers side V-12 head. Obviously crossflow 340I/220E. Billet crank, steel billet rods and billet cam all by Crower. Mains dowelled and girdled. 5 stage dry sump. Weiand 6-71 with 2 Quick Fuel 650 DP and 16 jet nitrous plate. Electromotive direct fire EMS and a 5 speed. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
@lushisushiemushi11 ай бұрын
Whoa
@spaceghost89952 ай бұрын
Boast much? 😂😂
@lazyhoundracing96212 ай бұрын
@@spaceghost8995 LOL. Maybe just 1200 HP worth. Perfect for my Drag and Drive 53 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup. With a Tremec T56 Magnum of course. I had to move up from my TKO 600. I like to drive. It's all about the fun.
@spaceghost89952 ай бұрын
@@lazyhoundracing9621 Boasting is so tacky. Go make a video about your awesome achievements.
@specialK121 Жыл бұрын
Great side by side take on both. Be interesting to see the comparison of GM’s (60 deg V6 DOHC VVT) LF4 3.6 and or LGW 3.0 vs the 4.2 inline 6
@niall21 Жыл бұрын
Other benefit of specifically this layout cross flow head, as well as I think most other longitudinally mounted inline engines made by anyone who isn't Nissan, is that you also keep all the heat away from the clutch and brake fluid and the steering column is easier to route under an intake as opposed to through an exhaust. At least for most of the world.
@niall21 Жыл бұрын
Early Miatas also go the wrong way.
@Splungers Жыл бұрын
We participate in the NHRA stock eliminator class. Every car and engine combo has an index, regulated by weight. A 2 wheel drive trailblazer with a 4200 would mess with some minds.
@leeselset575121 күн бұрын
So you're building one then. Right?
@Splungers21 күн бұрын
@@leeselset5751 The Vortec 4200 has been used in the Competition eliminator class with championship winning results. In it's original chassis it would be an eye opener.
@jalanlee32 Жыл бұрын
Been watching for years tempted to see if I can cram a 4.2 or a 3.7 in my 03 Z whenever you get the chance would love some 5 cylinder content
@DericO-rz3be Жыл бұрын
ANOTHER INTELLIGENT VIDEO... THANKS CALVIN FOR THE LEARNING
@64Pete Жыл бұрын
Never felt the pull of V8s, so I've never owned one. I've always driven sixes, more lately turbo 4's. Great content as always Calvin, appreciated!✌🇦🇺
@chopperking007 Жыл бұрын
So you're gay ?
@64Pete Жыл бұрын
@@chopperking007 Ask ya mum.
@Peculiarsafe83 Жыл бұрын
@@64PeteYou’re missing out. Go drive one and compare it to the turbo 4 cylinder. You’ll soon see that the Naturally Aspirated V8 is far superior. I have driven both. I will never go back to driving a Turbo 4 cylinder or V6.
@prevost8686 Жыл бұрын
I own a 95 GMT 400 with a 5.7 SBC. It’s a 3/4 ton and absolutely pristine. I also have an 88 F-250 with a F.I. 300 six . It’s not so pristine because it does the work around here. It will outpull the 5.7 SBC and get better fuel economy. The 5.7 SBC was the most inefficient engine for it’s displacement that I’ve ever owned. The Chevy gets 12mpg regardless of load and driving habits. The Ford will get 14-15 pulling the same load as the Chevy.
@jamescarter631811 ай бұрын
@@Peculiarsafe83 I have a 468 big block Chevy with a towing cam in a k3500 and a LNF 2.0T cobalt SS. Max torque on the LNF is at 2000rpm. Max torque for the stock 1997 vortex 7.4 is at 3200rpm. A good turbo 4 will hit every bit as hard as a NA V8, you just gotta wait a half second for the boost.
@courtleyjohnson Жыл бұрын
Im a 4200 owner right now I have a hole in my block trying to accumulate parts to get it back together love the content
@courtleyjohnson Жыл бұрын
Anything would help god bless
@infernoking7504 Жыл бұрын
It depends like for me I have a 302 v8 and a 300 inline 6 both make more then plenty of torque but I do get a bit more mpg with my inline 6 towing both are manual trucks and are the same truck.
@krevo6c Жыл бұрын
I like the VR6. You get a very compact Engine that can still support quite a bit of power if build right.
@knowbull5hit590 Жыл бұрын
Such a unique sounding engine too, definitely a bucket list build.
@young11984 Жыл бұрын
I agree and dont even like VW😂 but still want one to drop in a Ranger or S10
@truthboomertruthbomber5125 Жыл бұрын
The only thing I have against the VR6 is the long exhaust ports that are in the water jackets. I amazed they don’t have overheating issues.
@carnivorebear6582 Жыл бұрын
The VR6 does make it a bit more compact, but throws out the inherent balance of an I6
@jamesmedina2062 Жыл бұрын
@@carnivorebear6582they are plenty smooth
@TheSartinBrothers Жыл бұрын
Lmao that “for the four of you out there that this applies to… good luck 😄👍” at the end had us dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
Lol. Glad someone got a kick out of it.
@dustcommander100 Жыл бұрын
I sure like your videos! I need to re-power a '47 Chevy. Not so much for hot rod reasons, but because I get run over when I drive it. The rod bearings are lubed by dippers and oil jets, and I'm pretty sure the oil jets are weak. The vision of those poor rod bearings is on my mind when I reach 45 MPH with that stock 4.11:1 rear axle. Like so many people, I think a frame and powertrain swap is the best way to go, because the drive shaft being enclosed means I can't swap rear ends without also swapping transmissions. The 4200 most closely resembles the original 216 L6, and these car have a fairly narrow firewall and engine compartment.
@WhiteTrashMotorsports Жыл бұрын
We used an s10 rear and a th350 on a v8 swapped 49 Chevy. we kept the original frame.
@dougmedeiros8862 Жыл бұрын
They have 3:55’s for those, I remember the 215&216’s well I worked at a Independent Chevrolet specialist that opened in 1926 it is 12 blocks from the 1916 Assembly plant Oakland California
@UberLummox Жыл бұрын
I have a pretty rare '67 Jag 420 compact sedan. It's DOHC 6 sounds delicious. Also have a '68 Fury w/a 440 w/exhaust cutouts. The sound of an uncorked BIG BLOCK V8 is magical. Violently magical! As is the 1970 Porsche 12 cyl. boxer Le Mans cars. I love all the sounds. I learned a lot here, thank you!!!
@antton96234 ай бұрын
Yes but more than 8 cylinders and you're in hipster territory
@LiquidChild99 Жыл бұрын
I have both, M113k Supercharged V8 and an N54 Twin Turbo Inline 6, love them both.
@Dranreb8657 ай бұрын
Ok, child
@stoneylonesome40625 ай бұрын
Mercedes makes (or, at least used to make) reliable V8’s when they were analogue and not hooked up to all kinds of plastic and computer chips. Great I6’s, especially Diesels with cast iron heads. OM606 Turbo was the Diesel 2JZ
@michaelblacktree Жыл бұрын
Great video! I think both have their place. Personally, I like the sound of a V8 with 180-degree headers (or a flat-plane crank). And I also like the sound of an L6 with long-tube headers.
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The 180 headers are hard to beat, but I still like the inline sound
@michaelblacktree Жыл бұрын
I also like the staccato growl of an inline 5-cyl, the burble of a 60-degree V6, the shriek of a V12 at high rpm, etc etc. 😎
@baronoflivonia.3512 Жыл бұрын
I have a 06 Trailblazer EXT that I got from son, who killed the 4.2. I put a 07 4.2 with 72K on it from national salvage company, installed with new water pump & T stat. I've driven 4 years and very happy with it. My last inline was a Ford 300 in a early 90's E150. I have thought often about putting Trailblazer frame and drivetrain under my 41 Tudor deluxe, regular TB frame is perfect, mine a foot to long. Great content.
@2000jackbenАй бұрын
I'm pretty sure the extended Trailblazer and Envoy only came in the 5.3 V8. The standard size came with the 4.2 I6, with the V8 optional or in the Denali models. Now I'm wondering if all the exhaust manifolds are bad. Maybe it is just certain years.
@Trains-With-Shane Жыл бұрын
LOL i'll bet this video is going to generate some hate mail! lol. Although I agree on almost all points. My only descent with your points is in the only subjective point which is sound. I prefer the sound of a V8 over an inline 6. Although I am very much a fan of, and own, both platforms. Although my inline 6 is an old 236 stove bolt in my 57 chevy sedan. One point I would like to add though is about a pushrod engine vs an overhead cam engine, especially in regards to v8's. And that is reliability of that system. Which you partially touched on. VVT and other similar systems aside it just seems that, at least in the case of V8's, like you mentioned, there are far more failures of the timing system in engines like the Coyote, Tritons, etc. that use a dual of even single overhead cam system due to the long chains that have to be kept in check with guides, tensioners, etc. They just seem to have a far greater failure rate, and also repair and maintenance cost, than a pushrod engine has. Also, damn you! lol. Since I discovered your channel i've been creeping facebook marketplace looking for a Chevy Trailblazer because I want to own one of these Vortec 4200's. lol.
@markdavidson10496 ай бұрын
Dissent* :)
@itbaggedurgf Жыл бұрын
Great video showing the pros and cons of both platforms, I’d like to see Calvin modify a Ford 2300 with 5.2in stroke, the Lima 2300 to be exact, build it for power, turbo charge it slap some e85 in it and test it to its limit.
@deuceinfinity7 ай бұрын
VW VR6 is 15 Degree V6 with; 7 main cap, single head with 20 studs in tight pattern , the size and weight of a 4 cylinder, dual overhead cams, the coolest sounding engine due to unequal length intake/exhaust runners odds to evens, and lots of aftermarket support! if you really want your mind blown look at a bentley W12...
@edugj23 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, fives and sixes get me hyped more, N/A or turbocharged. Part of that is also for being where V8s aren't widespread, so people have grown to fight with less.
@turbotom416 Жыл бұрын
great teaching video, keep moving forward.
@dangrefrath9852 Жыл бұрын
Love the inline six. Use to plan builds on a 250 (or 292) with my Clifford's Research (6=8) book back in the 1970s.
@andrewnelson3733 Жыл бұрын
You need to buy a 6>8 tee.
@prevost8686 Жыл бұрын
I’m a longtime fan of straight 6 engines with the Ford 300 being my favorite. It’s never been a high revving engine but was amazing for the work that it could do given the unimpressive HP&Torque numbers.
@richardlea81810 ай бұрын
I just bought a truck with the 300 in it. It feels like im driving a diesel! I’ve heard they’re long lasting engines, hoping to have good luck with it
@stoneylonesome40625 ай бұрын
Yes. I think economy cars/trucks could benefit from Pushrod I6’s with Timing Gears and modern fuel injection. Analogue and simplicity combined with build quality is a good formula.
@User338173 ай бұрын
Ford 300 i6 is one of if not the most reliable indestructible engine ever made along with the toyota 1FZ and toyota FTE i6 engines
@randykubick6 ай бұрын
v8’s were born for only one reason - very compact. I6 is simply the best engine configure. Naturally balanced, no cylinder combustion overlap, better cooling, one cylinder head, 7 mains per 6 rods, n most importantly beer comes in six packs - it’s about that six man.
@riogrande1633 ай бұрын
@ectomorphnranger5165 an inline 6 is most certainly not limited, cummins inline 6's can make deep into 4 digit power numbers.
@jellytheninja Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to hopefully build a m50 with my friend for his e34 BMW. certainty cool stuff.
@KMorrison-q3z Жыл бұрын
Performance parts are why most, will choose the LS. That's why I watch your channel, the road less traveled. Thanks, keep thinking and doing.
@RSDX99 Жыл бұрын
Coyote says 'hold my beer'
@-thebatman-10 ай бұрын
@@RSDX99coyotes are too expensive compared to ls series.
@RSDX9910 ай бұрын
@@-thebatman- is that satisfying when your LS can’t run with the Coyote on an equal basis. Cheap is great for bragging at car shows but finishing second to the Coyote not much bragging then.
@-thebatman-10 ай бұрын
@@RSDX99 I’ve owned both the ls was cheaper but I did enjoy the mustang more.
@-thebatman-10 ай бұрын
@@RSDX99 you probably don’t have either lmao
@andyharman302210 күн бұрын
8:31 Where did you get the torsional vibration graph for the 4200?
@elektro3000 Жыл бұрын
I love V8s and straight sixes...in my job I've done a lot of development work on both. My wife and I have an all-V8 fleet (2UZ-FE, LS6, and Apache 392 HEMI). But my favorite is a boxer six. Strongest "bottom end" (it's the center so no main caps, the whole crankcase holds the main bearings), perfect balance to rev, best weight distribution, short stiff crankshaft without shared throws, and it sounds better than either one.
@dilsher12 Жыл бұрын
Inline 6s spinning to 10k rpm just gives me goosebumps
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
They sound so good
@wymple09 Жыл бұрын
I have the 4.2 Atlas in my Trailblazer. I love that damn thing. 270K, no oil consumption, runs like the day I bought it in 2007.
@bvward Жыл бұрын
You're right, Calvin... Volvo (built by Yamaha) 60° V8 comes to mind☺My favorite sound is a 5 or 12 cylinder...
@wyatteells9033 Жыл бұрын
Have one in my daily, sounds incredible, not crazy fast or easy to work on in a 4100lb fwd based awd sedan
@damianlindsey6177 Жыл бұрын
Or the SHO V8 that had Yamaha built heads for the Ford Taurus. Had cam gear issues but was a good engine if you got that fixed before it was an issue.
@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын
The combination of flat plane crankshaft and 60 degree engine in the Volvo V8 Supercar made for a very unique sound!
@Godscountry2732 Жыл бұрын
With more aftermarket support, the 4200 would a great choice for drag and drive events. Calvin might want to ask his subscriber's if there is any interest in a plug and play harness, ecu, etc. for the swap.
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
I think there is. We'll see where things lead.
@Godscountry2732 Жыл бұрын
@@Calvin-Nelson Me too.
@marke.haller4267 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarity on the crank natural frequency issues. I've been in balanced 6s and 8s, and there's something about the 6s that just felt better - smooth and creamy. Also - I'm with you on the sound. I kept my 223 six in my 55 F100. My "guy" balanced it, gave me a two barrel - and taught me a lot, most of which has been lost in the attic. The Ford wasn't going to win anything - except maybe in the audio lab. Nearly silent at idle, and an almost Euro-purr at 3000. Oh, just for grins I kept the vacuum valve on the manifold - just in case I wanted to hook up a hose milk the cows in the field. Nice video - thanks!
@MichaelDurig1 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 Trailblazer. I am beginning to plan a total restore. I would like to rebuild the 4200 and 4L60 E to 500hp level. What is a good $$$ estimate to budget for this goal?
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
4200 is ready to rock as is. The trans, I don't know.
@farncoisbisson7737 Жыл бұрын
i own a 16 chevy with the l83. been running it on amsoil signature series and use ethanol free fuel since new and never had any issue with carbon built up or lifter failing yet and i got short of 4000hours on the engine with 195k km... built plan now is between the L8T block altho id like to go with a 3.2xx stroke and keep some meat on the cylinder walls so nothing bigger than 4.100 on the pistons. And then i saw Nivlac57 videos of twin turbo 4200... and .. even with the turbos... still cheaper than a Lt4 hp fuel pump/injectors l8t engine built. so my mind is trouble.. for a daily driver that will cross canadian rockies every couple weeks matched to a 6l80e and a 4x4. will see what 2024 bring and if I stay with a v8 or go i6.
@sailingjazzy8272 Жыл бұрын
Nice Summary!
@knowbull5hit590 Жыл бұрын
Loved your keep fuel away from hot stuff explanation😂😂
@tjakr3869 Жыл бұрын
Wish there was more info/work on overhead cams engines. Awesome video thanks
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
Yeah. They work so well.
@damianlindsey6177 Жыл бұрын
I personally like the sound of a massive rpm v8(think nascar) over the overly smooth inline 6s but that's not close to saying they sound bad. Not at all. I remember back in the 90s there was a guy that bracket raced a built 300 inline 6 C10 and it was running low 6s in the 1/8th and sounded almost exactly like the 4200 you guys build. He had a 671 on his and it ran on alcohol but man it was killer
@deltabluesdavidraye Жыл бұрын
Sound has no bearing on what is better .
@prevost8686 Жыл бұрын
A Ford 300 six has a sound all its own. Even though it’s only a couple cubes short of a 302 the sound is totally different.
@damianlindsey6177 Жыл бұрын
@@deltabluesdavidraye no but I'd rather drive my 302 ranger every day rather than my 93 accord even though the accord makes 75 more horsepower. My 302 is naturally aspirated and revs about the same as the turbo 4 in the accord. The accord is faster, gets better gas mileage, and is more comfortable for my daughters to ride in but the Ranger is a better hot rod because it's more viscerally engaging.
@damianlindsey6177 Жыл бұрын
@@prevost8686 yeah, the C10 I was referring to had a 300+ cube stroked 292 chevy inline and man was it badass. Hearing the idle surge of a roots blower on an inline 6 is wild.
@johnh10012 ай бұрын
Good video : I also like inline sixes . Chey 292 , Ford 300 , AMC 258 . I saw a rail dragster run at the strip with a Ford 300 inline Six . It was really something ! Keep on souping up those sixes . They are a lot of fun !
@ironcladranchandforge72929 күн бұрын
Everybody talks about the Ford 300. Even though it's a great engine, nobody remembers the GM 302 straight 6. It was one of the most sought after engines for building a race car back in the late 50's and 60's.
@Mr._Flunky Жыл бұрын
Straight 6 no questions needed.
@filippolak23246 ай бұрын
hell nah
@drive-channel18346 ай бұрын
Yeah I6 FTW
@stlchucko Жыл бұрын
One key thing that didn’t get brought up is displacement. V8s can be absolutely massive CID for their relatively compact size. A Some LS/LT have over 40% more CID than the 4.2L in stock form. Displacement is a huge advantage when it comes to making power.
@johnnydawson76756 күн бұрын
"Wider in the width dimension." Glad you EXPLAINED THAT! For a minute I thought you meant wider in the length dimension.
@chadrobke9676 Жыл бұрын
As a person looking just for an engine for a project. Which one is more approachable on a ease of getting it to run?
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
V8. There is just so much more support out there.
@timothypremo6954 Жыл бұрын
Im swapping an LS into my 65 Valiant with a th400 right now. However I will be getting a Hurricane H.O. as soon as can get my hands on one. I want to be the first person to take one through a drag and drive comp.
@Кто-тоНонея-у2я Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information provided. Good luck.
@hosscartwright8925 Жыл бұрын
Cool 👌...Nothing against v6 or any other engines.But,the sound of a V8 ... Simply no other.My personal preference
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
No worries. More inline 6's for the rest of us.
@DericO-rz3be Жыл бұрын
*HOW ABOUT A SEGMENT ON* the L52 or LLR GM 5cyl?
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
They can't compete with a V8. Would be a fun side project though!
@richardlekawa850 Жыл бұрын
Hey Calvin, is there a written resource for the parts that you would recommend for a performance 4200? Say 500 ish Turbo HP.
I love my 4200 in my trailblazer but nothing like my sbc in my 68 RS/SS Camaro it will always be my favorite cause it’s what I grew up with.
@-thebatman-10 ай бұрын
You can’t even compare them like that 😂🤣
@Thumper6810 ай бұрын
@@-thebatman- Yeah I can. I still own them both. Welcome to America.🤣
@-thebatman-10 ай бұрын
@@Thumper68 literally makes no sense comparing an suv to a muscle car. That’s like saying I like my Lamborghini suv but not as much as my Bugatti. Makes no dam sense lmfao.
@@Thumper68 but they’re in two totally different applications.
@samuelforsyth6374 Жыл бұрын
6:41 you almost have a point but it's not the bottom end that limits RPM in an I6 its the camshaft, they dont like much more than 8500rpm, the bottom end well ballanced should do 10kRPM. and a crossplane V8 don't like going above 7500 rpm ..
@bryansenulis724224 күн бұрын
Does the chevy have a square bore and stroke size? Like the 2jz and alot of 4 cylinder it's 86mm bore and 86m stroke...what the bore and stroke ?
@TheProchargedmopar Жыл бұрын
When it comes to my 6.7 L Cummins, STRAIGHT 6 ALL THE WAY!!! LFG! 👍💪
@2000jackbenАй бұрын
When buying a used suv what engine is more reliable the 4.2 I6 or the 5.3 V8. And would avoid either one if theyve previously had manifold or head gasket issues.
@shadowopsairman1583 Жыл бұрын
Will you get the Northstar running?
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
Yes
@AshGTE Жыл бұрын
Over here in Germany the Vortec 4200 isn't really available. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a good substitute though. Not particularly expensive these days and all problems are well known. The Mercedes-Benz OM606 or OM648 are good diesel alternatives. The M57 from BMW is also extremely good.
And yes I agree with you all the way, DOHC 4-valves per cylinder are the wave of the future and way to go, along with all aluminum blocks too. I'm not to sure about VVT, "yet". Definitely do not care for DOD/AFM, don't think I could handle driving a vehicle with half it's cylinders not doing anything....
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
Yeah. DOD is junk
@realnutteruk1 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely presented! I knew most of the physics, but you added some nuances I wasn't aware of, particularly around block construction... To be contrary, my favorite engine sound is an inline 5!
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
More power to you my friend!
@mogumede8211 Жыл бұрын
good video. Mercedes and BMW made some really nice in line 6s in the early 90s that you should possibly look at.
@rusthippie51132 ай бұрын
I have 5 Ford 300s. I've driven trucks with the 360 FE, 302, International 345, 7.3 IDI turbo, 7.3 Powerstroke (both obs and super duty), multiple 5.4s, a 6.8 v10, multiple 6.2 gassers, AMC 4.0, GM 4.3, and probably a few others. The 300, while being slower than everything but the 5.4, would still have no trouble doing the work that the other engines are capable of. I had run my 1986 300 almost completely out of oil and it didn't complain, still runs with no concerning noises. I'm certainly biased but the 300 has given me no reason to question its capability or reliability, even when I exceed the GVWR of the truck.
@robertmontalvo597 Жыл бұрын
Another great video!
@lukebrennan57807 ай бұрын
Australian Ford Barra Barra 325T inline 6 is the killer in this conversation.
@lishiesteinsnightclub877010 ай бұрын
I have learned how to work on engines with old BMW inline 6s, it's a perfect middle ground for power and smoothness for if you wanna go NA or FI
@MrChevrolet94 Жыл бұрын
I’m definitely more of a V8 engine fan and I own a 2019 Chevrolet Corvette C7 Stingray with the LT1 6.2L V8 and I love it with all my heart. I also do love in-line 6s as well, but mostly for Diesel engine applications. For gas I choose V8. For Diesel I choose in-line 6. I also want a 15.2 L Caterpillar C15 in-line 6 Diesel engine for my dream RV bus. Also, you’re my hero!!!!! Thank you so much for keeping the internal combustion engine alive and I encourage you to keep doing so and fight against the tyrannical government bullies forcing electric vehicles down our throats. Gas and Diesel RULE!!!!!
@danielkoch6815 Жыл бұрын
I've long been a six-in-a-row guy myself as both my brother and my buddy raced six cylinder Camaros back in the day. My buddy's best was an 11.18 in his '69 pulling 18" wheelstands running a 250 cid. stick shift car with two Holley 500 cfm 2-barrels. My brother's '67 car was also a 250 with two 350 cfm 2-barrels, but was an automatic and ran a little slower - mid 12's. That was 1971 with very crude tire and traction technology. Consistent traction was only a rumor unless the pro-stock guys showed up and sprinkled their gold "fairy dust" on the track...good times! The only good thing about being this old is that I actually witnessed history in the making. I saw many of the legends up close and personal! I have to agree that there is no sound quite like a healthy six at full song. Heard more than one competitor comment that it sounded like a nest of angry hornets!
@twins4life274 Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I wish my twin would have joined the Camaro family but she belongs to the Mustang family 🥹. That's the only Mustang I'll give a pass for 😅
@CrazyTony65 Жыл бұрын
Volkswagen VR series engines were like 15 degree vee, also the basis for the W series (two VR motors sharing the same crank).
@Christdeliverme Жыл бұрын
A response for your algorithm. The sound of an Inline 6 is absolutely spectacular. It's a very unique sound, sounds tough and refined. However they sound horrible as a diesel, one of the worst imo. Like someone vomiting in a dumpster.
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
That's fair.
@chrislewis50694 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if that is the best question or best way to ask it. Are inline 6 engines as efficient as v8? Are inline 6s able to be as powerful as a v8? How are inline 6s as good as v8s?
@riogrande1633 ай бұрын
any engine can make power, and what kind of efficiency are you implying? volumetric efficiency? fuel efficiency?
@oldcivicjoe9069 Жыл бұрын
Everyone thought I was nuts back in '00 when I dropped a 292 into my '69 C20, that pretty near bone stock I6 went on to trounce a number of V8s with many thousands of dollars into them, both in 1/8 mile drags and in pulling applications. Sadly the stock head was not up to the task of such extreme and repeated abuse, ended up cracking between #4 exhaust port and a head bolt, I was never able to source a good one and ended up scrapping that still good short block several years later😢.
@joelpalmer Жыл бұрын
Great video ! Thank you ,I learned a lot; One thing though, it's "oil galley" not 'gallery" (unless your engine is festooned with miniature works of art) :)
@David-uh5mf Жыл бұрын
1996 thru 1999 ford sho V8 is a 60 degree along with 05-11 Volvo xc90 and 06-09 Volvo s80
@samueljackson24785 ай бұрын
Where can you find aftermarket parts for these 4200 Atlas Inline.
I really enjoy your videos brother. If I knew how to fabricate I would Def put a 4200 into my Crown Vic. But since I can't I am doing a Ls3 swap in her instead.
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an awesome project to me!
@unavailable8681 Жыл бұрын
I like both. For me, it's just a question of what it goes into. Do you have a long engine bay, or a wide one? Front steer, or rear steer? Just find a good engine that fits, with a sump that's at the right end. Bonus points if the hot side is on the passenger side, so you don't have to boil your brakes, or route your exhaust around your steering. And if you like pain; get a turbo v12.
@neilziesmer6109 Жыл бұрын
GREAT INFO AND EVEN BETTER PRESENTATION . 4200 DOES SOUND COOL IN YOUR VIDEOS .
@herrenindustries83059 ай бұрын
I have a Vortech 4200 I would like to build to about 700 engine hp. What parts do you suggest that need to be replaced or added to make this reliably?
@gavinhicks7621 Жыл бұрын
l6 or v8? Me personally I like to stack 2 l6 AKA a v12😏 (Which I’m building one currently)
@anthonygamez948611 ай бұрын
You just said in this video that you’ve never thrown a rod bearing on a 4200 .. If my mother shifted from D4 to D2 on the freeway while going 70.. Now my engine is making noise and check engines lights came on.. I feel like it’s a “rod knock” would you have an opinion on what most likely happened?
@Gr33kChiefАй бұрын
how about we put a vortec in an e30?
@Dr_Xyzt9 ай бұрын
Neither one is "Better" but depending on your chassis, one will have more benefits. In my truck I did a rear-mount gas tank, so going V8 let me get some nice symmetry and light weight. I could have kept the mid-mount gas tank, but that would have required custom headers that go outside the frame rails, which means mandatory side-exit exhaust -- I did a VVT deleted coyote that turned out pretty awesome. Only 5 wires to hook up. DBW connector, 1 cam sensor, 1 crank sensor, 1 knock sensor bundle, and then the injector/ignition loom can be bundled together to the holley ECM. The problem was, this setup costs twice as much as an LS. -- I'm designing a modernized Duesenberg J with IFS and am setting it up to use an inline-6 for all of the reasons you mentioned, plus there's no header in the way of the steering column. I like the 4200 quite a bit for those exact reasons.
@darrylcampbell4411 Жыл бұрын
Hey Bro. Really enjoyed your very informative vid. I too love the good old inline six. Great simple reliable engine. Unfortunately the sound I love is the mighty V8. However I have more Sixes than Eights. Love em..
@cwhit26485 ай бұрын
My daily driver is a classic Nissan JDM with an RB25DE with a 5 speed stick. Every day is a joy😁
@joesf1026 Жыл бұрын
Does a fastest 4200 list exist?
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
No, but I wanted to make one for the wiki
@WillyPanama Жыл бұрын
For years, the default swap option for a 1st gen Chevy Colorado has been an LS V8. However, thanks to some brilliant ppl over the last 4 years, it's now possible for the 4.2 I6 to be a cost effective solution
@tskraj3190 Жыл бұрын
Some of the Colorados and Canyons were available with a 5300 Vortec V8.
@WillyPanama Жыл бұрын
@@tskraj3190 only from 2009 to 2012. And they go for a much higher price. You'll find way more swapped trucks
@benjaminpoole2538 Жыл бұрын
What about primary and secondary balance?
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
You're golden with the inline 6
@williamlinder64189 ай бұрын
Is it possible for a company to manufacture a 4200 cam that can withstand those vibrations obviously with the dampeners cause regardless it’s still a longer cam length but it’s a thought considering the lack of aftermarket for the 4200 unless it just isn’t possible.
@Calvin-Nelson9 ай бұрын
It's the crank that is the problem, and yes you can mitigate the problems with some different design choices.
@williamlinder64189 ай бұрын
@@Calvin-Nelson thanks man really appreciate the knowledge, love the content and I can’t wait to see more of the American Supra!!!
@TerrySmith-fc9mj11 ай бұрын
What do you think of mazda cx-90 inline 6 turbo
@shiftycaponeixi1 Жыл бұрын
What is needed for a 4200 swap and is it as inexpensive as an ls swap?
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
Nothing is as inexpensive as an LS swap. Here you go. sites.google.com/view/vortec4200wiki/home
@thegoatest5 ай бұрын
I have an 05 Trailblazer lt. The Vehicle itself has never been my favorite but I couldn't pass on the engine. I drive it daily but I would love to put it in a Regal or a Cutlass.
@wymple09 Жыл бұрын
The only real way to get a bearing problem on the Atlas 6 is to skimp on oil changes. The VVT gets dirty and restricts oil flow to the crank. A friend bought one with horribly dirty oil and it happened to him.
@Guds777 Жыл бұрын
Line for high rev, V for better torque...
@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors8198 Жыл бұрын
Im still waiting on the cadi north star engine. Boosted !
@Calvin-Nelson Жыл бұрын
It's coming very soon
@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors8198 Жыл бұрын
@@Calvin-Nelson good deal. I'm very interested to see how well it does
@fishingtherapy4565 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2002 chevy trailblazer new. I was told, back in the day, I should turbo it and have a sleeper. Some forced induction specialist told me this back in 2003. Should have listened to him back in the day. Good news is, today these vehicles and parts are cheap because nobody knows their potential.
@Friedbrain11 Жыл бұрын
I grew up with inline 6's and prefer them. Never really like the v8 but it is useful I guess. I6 forever :)
@SweetAngel-x7x4 ай бұрын
Make a video comparing with VR6😇 I've never seen anyone compare these two...it would be cool!! Maybe...V12? 😳
@freedomfox8183 Жыл бұрын
Lol even though I can tell you're trying very hard your bias of the 4200 is showing 😂... You can tell how much more you like it just by how you talk about its shortcomings.. great video though.. if i could afford a jz id have probably jumped on that bandwagon....but i like being different and been following some of your 4200 builds since I first heard ..