Is Intersectionality a Religion?

[@Ton369]

I came here from traffic school to learn about intersections. This video is not helping.

[@lillo8698]

That is because it is basically a tirade of opinions emerging from a discussion among consenting voices. A decent discussion would involve some debate. It is hardly rigorous on an academic level, even though they are touting themselves that way as a panel. How droll and simplistic their diatribe is. So, it is basically a roundabout and if you follow it you will be turning in circles until you run out of petrol

[@justinecooper9575]

@@redram5150 K ris - Automatic or manual? Or is that "stick?"

[@newgtguy]

Nice and Nice! @@justinecooper9575 and @K ris

[@adeadgirl13]

He did draw an intersection in the beginning. That was something.

[@TheToledoTrumpton]

Both intersections and intersectionality are similarly accident-prone.

[@BenWeeks]

5:30 Venn diagrams: What is intersectionality? 18:47 Epistemology 32:25 "Listen and believe" vs. "Listen and consider." 34:50 Scripture: "Papers that quote other papers." 36:40 Intersectionality; what it gets right. 38:30 Trojan Horse Terms (ie: Racism, Inclusion) 44:25 Empathy considered problematic. 45:20 Definitions: "Hegemonic, " "Problematizing," "Deconstructing." 48:40 Heresy ideals lead to violence. 50:25 The Devil: "Hate" (which includes criticism.) 51:30 Equity vs. Equality 54:15 Cultural Constructivism (Defeated by Dr. Pinker in "The Blank Slate") 55:10 Rampant Biology Denialism 58:00 Partial Mythic Structures 1:00:30 "more dangerous than phrenology," "It's being institutionalized." 1:01:15 "Privilege preserving epistemic push back" 1:02:20 "Uncle Tom" as unfalsifiable smear. 1:16:30 Intersectionality is "calvinist theology that took God out."

[@DDCrp]

Hey, Ben- appreciate you making this. Thanks!

[@flickalooya8388]

Thank you for this. Is so useful when someone provides these topic markers. There is an important point at about 1:03.49 where Helen answers a question pertaining to how to push back against zealoted people. She suggests the utility of striving to "meet people where they are" in order to attempt to at least understand what is driving their motivations and the thought structures that are informing them, this intellectual concession being worthwhile and essential in order to avoid extinguishing the tiny ember of possibility for fruitful engagement. I think it is a really important point.

[@markstuber4731]

Thanks for your work.

[@dwylaw]

Thanks for this!

[@dannyka6738]

Nice one!

[@KyleClements]

I was a far leftist because I am against big business, corporate collusion, corruption, racism, and I will always be a fierce advocate for free expression. My position on those issues has not changed, yet I am now at odds with most of the left. What the hell happened?

[@hankchinaski_]

Kyle Clements I'm far right and I'm against CORPORATISM (not the free market) corruption, racism and the defense of free expression. And I have no clue what has happened....

[@jmtaylor5426]

@Kyle Clements I've never met a "far leftist" who was, in fact, "a fierce advocate for free speech". Just as discussed in this vid, my experience is those are people most likely to screech down any discussion that does not "toe the line".

[@Doktor_Jones]

Context: I'm not american. Just to quote a work colleague, who is very left leaning, political active and party member of the social democrats (germany), when we discussed feminism, gender and stuff: "That stuff is not left."

[@Δημόκριτος-ξ6ο]

What the hell happened? The labels remained the same, but the ideological underpinnings changed.

[@Sandlund93]

According to Alexander Bard, a Swedish philosopher and author, the left in Sweden abandoned Marx for Rousseau during the seventies because the working class was pleased and didn´t strive for revolution anymore. This is when the brandishing of the oppressor and the victim began, with the goal of tearing down power structures in society. The problem becomes when you realize that fantasy, because all of a sudden you are tearing down society itself! There ain´t no free speech among corporations anymore, no matter the size. Western society is continuously being trained that only certain opinions are okay, Bard himself was kicked from a TV show because of Freemantle. The wokeists have abandoned reason and they are somehow expanding all around us. They are the true threat against democracy, because everyone who doesn´t agree becomes branded with "racist", "bigot", "homophobic", "islamophobic" and whatever they can think of. People in Sweden are starting to notice, you can´t express any criticism anymore and expect to keep your job. This phenomenon is spreading through all layers of society and continue to poison it, our politicians are a joke. And from what I can tell it´s even worse in the US. We might even be looking at the end of Western culture as we know it, when they are talking about tearing down statues and rewriting history then you know we are going down a dangerous path.

[@Warmolt48]

I love this lady in the middle, She seems to be very sensitive about the topic, but manages her emotions so well. props to her!

[@seancondon146]

I’m watching this 3 years later and after Peter left Portland and he has aged more than 3 years due to the foul abuse he has endured but these three have guts and character

[@antlerr]

bs the so called dr. of math claimed buddhism not to have a deity yet ignore Budha was a man they deified, hindus have a pantheon of 12 gods and one above the rest and the same for the demons 12 demons and one shiva to rule them, did you even listen to what was said clearly not.

[@StannisBaratheonOTK]

This video is like getting to listen to a really good band's first album before they really became rock stars.

[@timv1.082]

Eh, we’ll see.

[@davewinn532]

And....? Can you expand beyond your headline

[@oliveeisner8964]

I get it. It's like when you discover a great band but it's your little secret with your friends. I went through this with Talking Heads. These guys give you that feeling.

[@DaveHibbert]

....only to learn later that the band is crap but you pretended like it was awesome because that's what your friends were doing.

[@Americansikkunt]

...3 liberal pontificators? They’re a dime a dozen in every college campus. Not rockstars. Intellectual lemmings (Useful Idiots).

[@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY]

These 3 are EXACTLY what is needed. Academics on the left criticizing and dismantling the radical leftist ideology. I really hope to see a lot more of these guys.

[@believerornot]

I worry they will go missing very soon. I've seen the signs-

[@themockturtle2747]

@ - Yes, same with me. Now my path is centrist and against corruption. Am going to stay leftist in ideology for now, but just pursue issues with pragmatism and using science to solve problems. No contact with intersectionalist PC narcissists for me, thankfully I left before they became dominant. It seemed like white guilt over their own status projected across the whole race.

[@themockturtle2747]

@ - Thanks for the advice. Am a firm believer in science and recently since leaving the left have re-examined "Social Darwinism" and how evolution relates to human society. The idea of humans as controlled by biology seems centrist, the left/right tug of war uses Darwin to boost their claims. Humans are either selfish of communitarian, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. It feels good mentally to be free of the intersectionality that was polluting my brain since having heard about it. Some of the beliefs were absorbed by me, now my mind is being cleared out of all that clutter.

[@karinefonte516]

@@believerornot Don't count on that, they are publishing in 2020, have already announced it.

[@agrayson8408]

Agree. I fear, however, that the damage to academia is too massive to ever recover. I don’t think I will ever be able to trust the universities as a source of truth. The nonsense and the legitimate are too intermingled to ever sort it out.

[@michaelayliffe7238]

Helen is a force of nature, a real badass intellectual with knowledge as the shield and insight as her sword.

[@michellelekas211]

She is smart

[@GeeeAus]

And don’t they hate her for it?

[@lunarpollen]

I was afraid that I was the only one who noticed all these parallels... It's so surreal to see other people discussing these observations and ideas... I'm almost convinced that I'm asleep and dreaming that I am watching this video... I really wish I could meet these three speakers and discuss this whole topic with them...

[@lunarpollen]

i wish i could like this video more than once

[@vitorodino8760]

How are you doing now buddy

[@lunarpollen]

@@vitorodino8760 I've been better, been worse... Over the past year it's been nice to learn about the grievance studies affair and the people involved in fighting back against this cultish phenomenon. And it's been very frightening and depressing to see how many people have suddenly bought into this morally bankrupt ideology since these latest protests began.

[@ambereverson8692]

I now treat them the way they have treated Christianity... that is how you combat sjws. You call them what they hate and tell them you don't consent to having their social doctrine shoved down your throat. Arguing logic does not work. I'm a centrist who believes in equality and personal and fiscal responsibility... I don't accept the labeling done by the sjws. What happened? We were apologists for far too long.

[@JonnyBeoulve]

I live in Seattle and intersectionality feels like the most popular religion here. If you go on dating apps you can see how common and powerful it with many female dating profiles mentioning that anyone who disagrees with their common intersectionality elements should swipe left.

[@chrisjackson9626]

The way Pete ties it all together from Helen and James, is exceptionally skilful. All 3 are great to listen to. This helps me to realise that I wasn't insane to challenge it.

[@polybian_bicycle]

Yes! I've just read Professing Feminism by Patai and Koertge from the 90's. They were warning about exactly this. The mistake was made when women's studies was established as a seperate field instead of incorporating women's studies into established fields. This created the viewpoint epistemology, who no one criticized, because it was published in women's studies journals, that no one read but women's studies profs. I'm not saying that all women's studies is bad science, but a lot of it is.

[@TomP-Atlanta]

Read 'The Rational Male' it'll blow your mind. Changed my life.

[@ZekeMan62]

@Marco Alessandro Nah, most of them will just get more entrenched in their views and become bitter neurotic cat ladies.

[@FilosSofo]

Tom P yeah, the red pill is the best no-nonsense description of gender relationships. Just throw in some empirical verification and you would end up with a pretty good model of intersexual human behavior.

[@billsimms2511]

I keep coming back to being shocked that this sort of thing is knowingly taught in universities .. ideas that cannot be challenged? That seems like thee act opposite of what should happen on campus

[@gaiusbaltar24]

Helen Pluckrose really managed to in a concret and condensed way explain how the ideology works and how it came into being and its clashes with other left ideologies.

[@justadad134]

There is a direct parallel between the religion of Intersectionality and the "Savior" concept of Christianity. In Christianity, the problem is sin. To be absolved of sin, you need Christ to take it away from you and pay the price of sin for you. In Intersectionality, the problem is privilege. To be absolved of the sin of privilege, Guilt takes the place of Christ, which is fascinating since in Christianity Christ is the freedom from guilt. Intersectionality is such a vile construct that it actually posits the reverse: salvation is to be guilty. In Christianity, Christ absolves you of guilt. In intersectionality, Guilt MIGHT absolve you from privilege, but unlikely. Best see if you can heap more of that guilt on yourself and go from there.

[@deedlessdeity218]

It is more akin to Christianity's cults of self-flaggellation

[@Chris-dt5td]

Don't forget that the idea of Messiah is part of Judaism and Islam as well, not that the three religions are all valid or worthy to follow.

[@plaidpaisley5918]

Yes!!!

[@plaidpaisley5918]

jpstone Though, in Christianity, the “Spirit” often leads, convicts, etc. while with intersectionality, i dont see this nuance. What do you think?

[@shadowling77777]

You might like the Thiaoouba Prophecy Christ literally just came here to preach love of yourself and all others.. and to PROVE that there is an afterlife (reincarnation). Christianity fucking disgusts me...

[@alfuriusstraut8721]

The number of views on this video is TOO DAMN LOW

[@TheDeathwalker86]

When you hear well thought out reasonable rational logical evidence based people like these brave and interesting academics.. it just feels like my brain is being cleaned or soothed in a way . Finally some reason in all this insanity.

[@robbiemedica2652]

That kinda sounds like the uplifting of being "morally clean" that they were talking about in regards to wokeness. So careful you don't create a new religion yourself 😂 Actually I do think 'Red Pill' manosphere philosophy is similar to intersectionality in that it's taken on the form of a religion. For them things like 'gynocentrism' are like original sin or privilege. I bet if we examined it closely we'd see a lot of parallels.

[@michellelekas211]

Smart comment from you

[@harrymills2770]

"We've lost a considerable amount of individuality, because people in certain categories are are expected to think act in certain ways. If they don't, they're not considered representative of those categories. And we've lost shared humanity." Yes. Intersectionality acts to divide us into hierarchies of oppression, where the assumption going in is that people cannot come to a shared understanding of life in any meaningful way. I'm below you on the oppression ladder, so my opinion is worthless (unless I agree with everything the guy above me on the ladder says).

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Exactly. The cult of Intersectional Feminism reminds me of a virus -- it exists only to infect healthy systems and make more of itself, until the previously-healthy system has been completely destroyed; then it moves on to the next one, and the next one, and the cycle continues. Eastern Europe seems to have some immunity because they've already survived the Marxist tyranny of the Soviet Union; but I wish humanity could discover a psychological vaccine. I worry about our future as humans.

[@dannynewton3988]

It seems that intersectionality has neutralized the Golden Rule.

[@mo-wk4hs]

Helen Pluckrose way of explaining things has changed everything Ive ever believed! Thanks for the work you do! But your all GREAT!

[@RCCarDude]

I'm not a Republican, I never will be. I'm not a Democrat, I never will be. My solution for a more neutral educational system would be to encourage more Conservatives into the field of teaching. This seems obvious.

[@Laguero]

Agreed. I'm a teacher and although I'm a moderate, I am the most conservative teacher at my school.

[@Sharetheroad3333]

We need another option besides republican and Democrat. But I get your point.

[@neuromancer5661]

@@Sharetheroad3333 We have another option. Its called #Unity2020.

[@neuromancer5661]

Maybe you'd like #Unity2020.

[@rm9308]

10/10 manspreading by Lindsay. I thought he might spread into a full split at some point in the Q&A.

[@tmaris]

😂😂

[@djcointelpro8470]

his sack is pristine. these are the seeds that the white race needs to survive the cultural marxists

[@drweetabix]

@@djcointelpro8470 😂

[@viktorsaurus]

Dat moose knuckle tho

[@stugrant01]

Don't be so sexist. The woman has a lot of soft cushion on her body to conform to the chair and not tip over. For the big man the chair is too small and he is more densely muscled so he needs to plant his feet firmly like a tripod.

[@ams914]

TIM POOL appearance at 1:09:45 ! Oh snap!

[@nayrtnartsipacify]

I wonder if he ever takes the hat off

[@longleaf9943]

Damn, thats funny.

[@01What10]

It never comes off... Not even in the shower.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Anyone know, how long has he been wearing beanies? Like back when he was a teenage skater, was he already wearing them then? I can't imagine him without his iconic beanie! Edit: 1:10:00 Lol I just noticed -- the guy in front of Tim is wearing a beanie too. May be a nascent trend. . . 😄

[@TheForgottenProgidy]

I come from the year 2020. Yes, it became a religion.

[@Trumpluv]

KZbin sent me here today too.

[@Yupster2501]

Yes they sound like ahem... Phophets.. today, ok bad word lols

[@kevinphelps9577]

Yeah I've been watching a lot of Bret and Heather Weistien/Heying as well lately. Prophetic doesnt even begin to state the importance of all of what these folks were trying to tell us 3 years ago.

[@Yupster2501]

@buymebluepills Lol "Heresy Detected!" Meme

[@Mark-jl2tc]

Great video editing/quality- felt like i was in the room

[@billhopen]

Dude, the word salad bar has had all the labels changed, cucumbers are the new tomatoes, oil is the new vinegar, and crutons now look at lot like the old olives, just sidel-up and spoon yourself out a bowl of identity and don't worry about communicating because understanding and meaning are now completely subjective, nominclature is no-men-rape-sure or new-men-rapture depending on your neopostmodernist pronunciation or postneomodernist pronostication, depending of course on your logomastication at the salad bar of i-dent-titty. I hope in light of this new dada, scientific understanding has been advanced

[@terrytibbs1852]

This discussion holds equal high weight and importance today. We are in troubling and worrying times indeed. Science, rationality and liberty (the traditional version); needs to prevail. God help us

[@07m07]

50:35 "This talk we're giving now is certainly hate." The fact that this would be an entirely accepted & agreed upon statement in intersectionality circles says quite a bit.

[@davehemke7786]

Sweet feathery baby jesus, this does explain so much. Thank you.

[@sennewam]

Don't trivialize our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He is not a dinosaur. He is Son of Man.

[@nanchesca3950]

A great talk!

[@arbootieoaks]

@@sennewam I prefer zombie Jesus, myself, more than dinosaur jesus. But to each their own.

[@lockandloadlikehell]

Sweet bearded baby Jaysus.

[@hervor33]

As a Christian, this image of bird-like baby Jesus in a manger made me lol.

[@JC-by6cl]

Thank goodness we have smart good people like Peter Boghossian, JBP, Jonathan Haidt, Dave Rubin, Gad Saad, Christina Hoff Sommers, Camille Paglia, Dinesh D'Souza, Eric and Brent Weinstein, Ben Shapiro, Steven Pinker, Brendan O'Neill etc, etc on the side of sanity.

[@fukpoeslaw3613]

JC 9190 and last but not least: Doctor Wier! (Maybe you have not heard of him, that's because he is very humble.)

[@JC-by6cl]

You're included in the first etc. lol

[@robbiemedica2652]

Don't forget Crowder. He's fantastic, his Change My Mind segment is fantastic.

[@michellelekas211]

Diseasa is a idiot freak

[@mfpwabc]

I think this is a vitally important discussion and agree with the need to push back on the insanity. But there are some terrible people on your list. 😂

[@davidrapalyea7727]

This is fun. Back in the early 1990s I was part of a promotion review to evaluate whether my organization was unfair in some way. We simply talked to people up for promotion who had been in contention. My first interview was with a black guy who flat said, in these words "I was promoted faster and further ahen anyone in the divisions history, but if it were not for this god damned discrimination I would have this last promotion!" The man was two rungs up from me, and younger as well! Who was I but make to Chronicle, but rather breathtaking. The next person I interviewed was a Latino woman who ranted and raved about her sexist boss and she went on and on, in graphic detail. Then it became appareng she was talking about my previous interviewee. At that point I knew it was hopless and the best thing I could do was write up an exactly accurate work paper then scheme for eaty retirement. Which I did with great success.

[@benrex7775]

When theory hits the world.

[@JosephdiCaro]

How did you not have crazies protesting the shit out of this meeting lol

[@kennycavender8290]

Probably couldn't understand it because of intersectionality - Its called selective universal oppressive educational experience........very damaging and traumatic. People actually report hearing loss as symptom!!

[@dancorwin9232]

Because crazies protesting this is a made up strawman by the right to pretend that the LEEEFFTTT is crazy

[@Draugh39]

They thought it had something to do with math, and that subject just scare them as it involves logic? ;-)

[@thecomrade302]

Let's unpack "unpacking".

[@AndyJarman]

@Learning how to see he's just being 'problematic'.

[@Nia-zq5jl]

Define definition

[@the81kid]

This video is unboxing unpacking the unpacking.

This must make a real Left-winger nervous, I'll bet.

[@BenetbenetLive]

Unpacking something marginalizes people of lower mental ability so its serves to power the inequitable status quo therefore its morally wrong and you're a bigot

[@FrankEdavidson]

Grievance studies 'academic' journals brought me here. Well played.

[@ZekeMan62]

@Gennady Arshad Notowidigdo The peer review process has become a self validating echo chamber feedback loop.

[@Arun-nv8zi]

This is fascinating. The parallels of woke to religion gives us a basement window into the foundations of human nature.

[@kimshaw-williams]

Very nicely put.

[@ZECH1189]

Thank you for hosting this debate and thank you for participating in it most of all. I don't hold much of the same beliefs but. Am willing to listen. Thank you for debating and conversating.

[@swerastamann]

this is litterally the best thing that could happen to me right now. you're brilliant.

[@berniejii3739]

This video deserves many more views. It's the best I've seen and I've seen a lot. The same guys on Rogan recently were hilarious and again gave many remarkable insights.

[@Napalm6b]

So when they talk about speech constructing reality; in my mind they are talking about magic -- intention manifesting itself in the physical plane. If that is the case then magical thinking is now being taught in liberal arts universities?!?

[@adeadgirl13]

I am a billionaire! Damn that didn't work. Maybe if I say it over and over again.

[@ken-ic1ne]

@@adeadgirl13 The trick is you have to redefine" billionaire".

[@ZekeMan62]

Closer to the truth than you think. These new divisive and lunatic idealogies were literally conjured into reality by practicing occultists with wicked intent.

[@michellelekas211]

Read federici’s “Caliban and the Witch” So smart. Excuse me, but you would lose it at a Quantum Physics lecture

[@Napalm6b]

@@michellelekas211 I'm going to refer you to good ol' Richard Feynman, "If you think you understand quantum mechanics you don't understand quantum mechanics." If you don't have an advanced physics degree you, much like myself, have no place talking about quantum anything.

[@jokeer14]

James' manspreading has triggered some SJWs to check Dislike xD

[@tylerwhitney3443]

peak manspread pose lol

[@starrdst81]

a woman would not be able to get away with that. . .

[@theonlyguiltymaninshawshan7909]

The rare male camel toe.

[@sixfeetaway]

We must repeat history in order to not repeat it anymore - SOCJUS

[@Guy-em4ck]

Can people stop saying “unpack” ffs? “There’s so much to unpack here” “let me unpack that for you” etc. it’s like people saying “,right?” after every sentence. “Oh god Sam Harris says unpack so I need to say it too”

[@chriskii12344]

Can you unpack that for us?

[@AndyJarman]

@@chriskii12344 then repack it all over again?

[@omegapointsingularity6504]

@@AndyJarman please wait with the repacking I need more unpacking.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

That all started with Peggy McIntosh, who was born way back in the 1930s, a whole generation before the Civil Rights Movement. Peggy wrote an elitist paper about a supposed "Invisible Knapsack" of privileges with which all white people were allegedly born. *SHE* was born with lots of the privileges she lists (like, being able to afford to buy a home in a neighborhood where she wants to live; and getting high-quality hotel shampoo). But I have plenty of white friends who can't afford to buy a home where they want to live; and it's actually easier for me (a brown woman) to find a bandaid that matches my skin tone, than it is for my blonde white friends (matching band-aids are supposedly another "white privilege"). Peggy grew up wealthy, and her Invisible Knapsack is class privilege, not white privilege. And -- wealth is the one privilege that she doesn't include in her outdated, puerile little manifesto. But she's one of the Saints of Intersectionality, like Kimberle Crenshaw; so people have used "unpack" ever since.

[@michellelekas211]

Ha ha deep dive

[@cmcull987]

Thanks for sharing this. I'm not a Republican or a straight party voter. I tend more towards liberal. But the intersectionality idea is so, pardon the term, problematic for me. Are we really supposed to assume that people of a different race, sexuality, or gender see the world and behave in the world in the same way? It's racialism or tribalism being revived. There's a laziness to the argument for the doctrine intersectionality.

[@chagal3299]

Wow Lindsay makes some really great points. This is definitely worth watching twice.

[@shannonleifer6439]

I feel like intersectionality projects a false sense of privilege on some, while providing real privilege to others.

[@stauffap]

And just like people seem to be afraid of criticising religions publicly they are also afraid of criticising this intersectionality stuff. I mean, we see it all the time. People don't want to challenge other peoples ideas. "What's the harm? Everyone can just believe whatever they want!". Of course there's always harm when you're chosing to ignore reality. People just don't want to have uncomfortable conversations. They don't want to be seen as troublemakers. They don't want to be seen as intolerant.

[@smallfry148]

Excellent discussion, very illuminating. Would have been interested in a discussion of how intersectionality is moving the Overton window.

[@55seddel]

This video is criminally under-viewed and overlooked.

[@redgey5163]

I could not agree more. My god. They really called it.

[@JimBig987]

What's often missed from these discussions is why it is attractive to young people, who are propping it up. Just like a religion, it is providing an outlook on the world that explains (however suspect it is) why they are not achieving what they think they should be achieving. I think what this stems from is a lack of hope among young people that working is worth it to lead a happy and fulfilling life. There seems to be a perceived lack of opportunity for young people and so, from what I think stems from goodwill, they want to dismantle the system that they think is failing them. As investment is increasingly removed from young people and their futures, this ideology is making more and more sense because the system is increasingly not working for them. I think the onus is on the government to invest in young people, give them hope, instill sensible values and theyll see that actually it doesn't need to be dismantled, it's good. And then I think all this ideology will go away. Of course young people need to work hard and take responsibility,, but I also think so many think what's the point there's no hope anyway.

[@childe13weston54]

As these guys demonstrated, once you have a handle on the relevant theory (or theories) it is relatively easy to pump out the journal articles. Is one reason why intersectionalists, etc are so dominant in the academy is that it is correspondingly easier for them to publish the required number of journal articles for tenure?

[@kennycavender8290]

So, If I'm at a 4 way stop and we arrive at the same time, who goes first?? Ughhh....This DMV stuff is complicated!! Who knew getting your drivers license had so much to do with morality and religion?! Total blind spot, glad I checked this one before my test!!! Thx for the heads up......Cheers!!! 👍🚗🚗🚗

[@cakemix007]

Best of luck on the test Kenny. I'm sorry they didn't answer your question. However, as far as I know... as long as you don't identify by you biological sex you'll have the right of way at any intersection. If there's a dispute... don't be afraid to standup and insist on your preferred pronouns. And really mix it up Kenny, because this is a chance to shine. Hope this helps

[@kennycavender8290]

Daniel Maher wow, well I will certainly write that down Daniel, that should ensure success when I re-take it. Driving is tough but you learn a lot about the complications of your identity and it's relationship to your control of the power steering. I never knew !!! 😅🤔

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[@thelovebirdkitchen2732]

You can, and maybe should, combat intersectionality the same way many Christians claim to combat sin: love the sinner, hate the sin. In other words, first establish your investment in the worth of the individual. Tie in your concerns about their ideas with your concern for their well-being as a fellow human being. Then, from that anchor begin to slowly, carefully, and thoroughly wipe the sludge that's impairing their view of reality without attacking their dignity or individual sovereignty.

[@simgrmehmej8075]

At one point James says “it’s not in all of the university”. Oh man, how things changed in 5 years. How did I miss this video.. glad to hear every minute.

[@billhopen]

Thanks for translating this new dada, I was getting lost out there

[@alvaroprietovideos]

1:03:00 ¿How can we fight against intersectionality if it can be considered as a religion? I work in a University in Spain, and I think the key is to make people understand that personal beliefs shouldn't be mandatory in any educational system.

[@Darth_Pro_x]

For the first question, about how to combat intersectionality, you should also read peter's book "a manual for creating atheists"

[@lawrencegress9831]

Interesting content. These are the kind of conversations that we should be having. Thoughtfully put together. The audio quality is a bit distracting.

[@DoubtX]

That was a weird surprise to see Tim Pool suddenly appear.

[@lolar6085]

Great sharing!.It broaded my perspective about the current state of political and academic affairs right now and also the most interesting thing for me has been to discover what drives people to this ideology. Specially enjoyed James Lindsay contribution Thanks for sharing

[@WillCarter1976]

Is the title a rhetorical question? Of course, Intersectionality is a religion. It's a secular moral system for behavior that is based on the belief that their group can have an authority and are conferred preferential status based on a subjective hierarchy of moral consequentialism without any accompanying responsibility or agency. If that isn't a model for organized religion I don't know what is and their Church is simply the universities themselves. Their canonical saints are Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, and apparently, Michael Eric Dyson is their modern Jimmy Swaggart.

[@hankchinaski_]

Will Carter Be okay if they just stayed on campus and slowly went insane. As you can see, they're undermining Western Civilization itself. We need to stop joking about it and stop ridiculing it and push back.

[@dm0065]

Heroic. These guys are fighting at the front line of knowledge and truth and the future of thought itself. They'll lose obv, but damn it theyll be able to say they tried.

[@jonathansanders3577]

God-like discussion. Thank you.

[@JohnDoe-vp2yn]

FANTASTIC! Thank you so much for the uload!

[@BuceGar]

James Lindsay has some excellent explanations in this video.

[@bobfusinati6614]

Good conversation. Helped me sort my own understanding

[@sheilashaver]

“When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called a Religion.” ― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

[@gloriasangermano3687]

This trio could have put an end to freak academia. Instead freak academia is sadly still alive.😢

[@alienagenda586]

Ha brilliant. Mencius Moldbug already came up with the term "The Cathedral" a while ago. I am glad to see that intelligent people are coming to the same conclusions when it comes to progressive orthodoxy.

[@city_of_coompton6832]

Now. .. we just need an absolute monarch to abolish the fed, fire all civil servants, humanities professors and MSM journalists in a bloodless coup....

[@Thesaurcery4U2C]

I Stumbled in here, and this is an absolutly facinating conversation about something i had little understanding of.

[@K1NETIX1983]

The other hope is that the religion of intersectionality is simply incongruous with biological existence. Thus, it is simply inevitable that it dies in its current form and then transitions again into another system of inappropriate conflict with the systems that are in place due to life’s intrinsic unfairness in any system that will ever be implemented. Or in simple terms, the unwise that are pissed because life can suck and they, or people they care about, have gotten the short end at some point. “Jealousy, turning saints into the sea, swimming through sick lullabies.” The Killers

[@TagSpamCop]

55:40 re: Biology denialism. This is so weird to see 4 years later. Rampant, unrelenting biology denialism is just everywhere. It was only maybe 12-18 months ago, the narrative was "nobody's saying sex isn't real" but now they say it out loud and people have been fired for it. I've watched this a few times over the last 2 or 3 years as I often come back to some of the ways things are described, but this the first time this bit has jumped out at me, and it's creepy as hell, because of how infected society became with it.

[@przemyslawgrzybek4702]

What about cats? My cat doesn't get me, cannot see what I see ...

[@μολὼνλαβέ-ψ5ξ]

Przemyslaw Grzybek … throw out the cat, get a dog, problem solved!

[@HypheaTL]

μολὼν λαβέ As a cat-person... I find your remark offensive and now I need a safe space!

[@courtneyhoward9664]

The sophists have hijacked higher ed. Unfortunately, the ramifications of this may be that the public at large loses faith in the authority of scholarly literature in general. Every academy has its reputation on the line in dealing with this. How can the scholarly literature in isolated fields be contradictory? The scholarly literature on sex and gender for instance may be contradicting the scholarly literature on biology and evolution. We are seeing a confrontation between lived experience and scientific scrutiny, between anecdotal evidence and empirical evidence. Entire fields of study resting on lived experience and anecdotal evidence can't be supported by the universities or it will end them eventually.

[@PoopiteeScoop]

Who's the student in the pink DUF coat? Thought they'd be a protestor (literally judging solely on looks) but, instead, was politely listening and taking notes the entire time. LOVE IT.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Yes, it's important for us to remember that not everyone who looks like a part of the Intersectional Cult, actually is. My (black) hair sometimes looks blueish/purplish in really bright sunlight, and sometimes I feel like I need to be wearing a shirt that says "No I'm NOT an Intersectional Feminist." 😁

[@desinstryke5236]

Absolutely informative. I may have to watch this a few times

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Awesome profile pic!

[@stugrant01]

At 1:52:35 the man asks "what causes all the private companies to open their doors to invite intersectionality in"? His answer: "Paralizing fear of being labeled racist". What these three speakers don't realize is that there ARE Gods and living Spirits that are above and outside of humanity and fed by humanity. Intersectionality talk awoke the intersectionality spirit and it grew stronger and stronger until it had a life of its own, and now we must all bow to it. And when we bow to it, we can suckle from its supernatural teat. It feeds us a psychic sustenance (inclusionary endorphins) and at the same time it siphons out more energy from us as well, but it is more than just a commensal relationship, it is a mutualistic relationship where both parties (the NPC's and the Flying Spaghetti Monster) create and gain power from nothing, like a perpetual motion machine.

[@thelarch8329]

It got old fast.

[@fabienmorin6790]

what the frick

[@FilosSofo]

Citation needed

[@robrobert9541]

Excellent discussion. Thank you for this upload.

[@BadgerBabyBoy]

That's funny just today I was telling my psychologist what intersectionality is & how intersectionals I've met have been like & she said "geez it sounds like a religion" lol. That's before I ever saw this video

[@nuggetoftruth-ericking7489]

As a Bible teacher, this was interesting, thanks.

[@adeadgirl13]

I can't believe Tim Pool doesn't take off his cap even when he's outside not making his videos.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

I think it's his trademark now. I wouldn't recognize him without a cap. 😄

[@HalJikaKick]

I can’t believe I found this video. I’ve been trying to put this whole concept together for like 2 years now and thinking why hasn’t anyone pointed out how evangelicals exist on the left and right?!!

[@Dani68ABminus]

Intersectionality is a theory that has more to do with living out your psychpathology on a grand scale than anything else...and I’m not trying to be flippant. It’s the Orwellian nightmare.

[@TagSpamCop]

For reference, this is (I think!) the mentioned article from The Atlantic: www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/bari-weiss-immigrants/553550/

[@simonskinner1450]

Nice to see the insecurity of Atheists now being persecuted for their 'beliefs', and joining Conservative Christianity for a friend, as Christianity is tolerant and will listen.

[@xerxescroes2281]

Simon Skinner and you totally miss the point...

[@michellelekas211]

You missed the lecture

[@simonskinner1450]

@@michellelekas211 maybe you missed the irony. It is that only 'Christians' are open minded as their beliefs came from an open mind. It is other Atheists who reject the reasoning of 'Christians' that close down debate. The three seem to want the openness and freedom to speak of 'Christianity'. Which shows there are different Atheist religions.

[@BlGGESTBROTHER]

​@@simonskinner1450 They've done talks for atheist, agnostic, freethinkers, Jewish, Christian, and classical liberal groups etc: And news flash, there's plenty of Christians who are into this woke critical theory bs that would not be accepting of their philosophy; so your point about Christianity being open minded as a whole is moot. Also, atheism isn't a "religion" as you so inanely tried to argue. It's simply the position of disbelief in a god or gods. Nothing more, nothing less. Religion is: "a social-cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, beliefs, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, and spiritual elements." None of which applies to atheism. Like Michele Lekas pointed out, it's like you didn't even listen to the lecture.

[@benrex7775]

I think I'm a conservative and I know I'm a Christian and I disagree with some statements they made about Christianity. But I think this video is very valuable and they are very knowledgeable about how fundamentalists think. With fundamentalism I mean the current understanding, not the original, literal understanding. 1:06:00 I love Lindsay definition of secular. It shows that he's a person of great knowledge in his field. Google says secularism is the state of being separate from religion. Lindsay says secularism is the state of being separate from any ideology. Googles definition does not include communistic thought or the assumption, that the universe needs to be eternal because it can not have a beginning and therefor a creator. 1:44:45 That's how you know someone is looking for the truth. Thank you for the talk and for uploading.

[@ktrigg2]

“You’re welcome for modernity.” That is what I tell people when they say I have white privilege and need to take responsibility for some of the ills that people who have my skin color apparently committed. If I have to take responsibility for all the bad, I get to take credit for all the good. White societies built the modern world.

[@Trent-m6j]

Aye, but that's the complaint, too. Competence is bad because it makes people in-equal, so competence is oppression. The Asians didn't own slaves. They don't run the system. They don't have any racial grievance in history to atone for or unearned position of privilege from their peers running the system. Yet they're the most discriminated against by affirmative action, because they over-represent the most in college admissions and hiring to well paying STEM fields. They're the most discriminated against, because they get the best grades and test scores. It's a racialized Harrison Bergeron.

[@basicallyalandershowitz]

Man these guy's papers are always STRAIGHT BANGERS.

[@JohnDoe-vp2yn]

Helen Pluckrose, Ma'am, you look amazing! Too bad I ain't even close to your intellectual level.

[@cgpcgp3239]

Helen Pluckrose and Kathleen Stock are always the clearest, most well reasoned, and easiest to understand speakers on a panel. Btw I love the name Pluckrose. Sounds like name of a character in a ponty python skit.

[@jeeed6390]

Near the end, His testament about how he has the hope to fight is inspiring.

[@oikophobe9164]

3:30 my god look at that manspreader.

[@paulduffy697]

🤣😆😂

[@paulsemakula8600]

I agree with what these folks are saying about the pitfalls of intersectionality. It may parallel with religion in general but it certainly does not parallel with Christianity in particular. For example original sin is not parallel to privilege as the concept of privilege within intersectionality is something some posses more then others, whilst original sin is says that all people are equal in their capacity and their inability to not do wrong (something that seems to me to be obvious as no one is perfect). Also Christianity encourages engagement (Acts 17) with other world views and calls for the equal treatment of all people for those who are called Christ followers. I could go on but I think the panel (whom I respect) have gone too far with their parallels with Christianity which don’t fit as neatly as they think. Lastly everything they say can be as equally paralleled with any worldview for example all world views present positions on where we came from, how we should live and where we are going, which all three panelist have a position on. Again I agree with their criticisms of intersectionality and it could be argued that it functions like a religion but I think they go too far to particularly parallel it with Christianity.

[@bensanderson7144]

I'm tall and skinny, white and male, circumcised, catholic, round shouldered and sunken-chested. That's eight intersections, right? Oh, and I'm balding. That's a ninth intersection. I am discriminated against based on these traits.

[@RaisingSaintsAcademy]

Though he mentions that defining religion is very difficult, I think adding ‘radical religious beliefs’. Same w/ political parties. It is the radical who leave logic and reason for pure emotional/l based morality. One who is religious can (& should) be balanced- as a Catholic, for example, God gave us BOTH emotion AND Logic/ Reason. As Catholics heavy thinkers of history have stated & philosophized, you must maintain logic/ reason alongside faith alongside emotion. Just as the environment needs to remain balanced. Same w/ political. Most of us are far more complex and have leanings that go slightly left on some points and right on others. But if you go radical left or right you have rejected logic/ reason for pure emotion.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Well said.

[@fatelamore]

Seems like intersectionality has heavily borrowed from the two-year-old mind.

[@GnosisMan50]

There is soooo much to be said about this discussion! The observations they made goes deep and the solution is not going to be easy. However, I believe it largely depends on providing to intersectionalist the right kind of knowledge that addresses the all too human fallacy of *misplaced concreteness* and the danger it imposes if they are not aware of it. Dangerous because it distorts reality which, in turn, brings the evolution of humanity to a snails pace. These courageous professors remind me of Dr. Bartlett. Says he, _And of course reification is pervasive in ideologies and religions (the nation is partially reified in its flag, gods and goddesses are reified by systems of religion and mythology, etc.). It is practically impossible for most people to refrain from believing that what appears to be a real definition or description actually refers to things that exist. The tendency to reify is deeply ingrained in the human psychologically normal propensity to engage in what I have elsewhere called "projective misconstructions." Expressed in compressed form, a projective misconstruction occurs when we believe that that to which we refer is independent of the very conditions that render such reference possible (Bartlett 1971; 1975; 1976; 1982; 1983; 2005, Part II). For our purposes here, this is a theoretically abstract way of saying several simple things at once: when we formulate definitions that we misconstrue to be real definitions, we are often led to build on these, making further statements that we take to be true, when in fact on a very basic level we do not know what we're actually referring to and talking about, and yet nonetheless insist that we do and that what we're talking about is real. To engage in _*_projective misconstruction_*_ in the context of our present discussion is to be caught by the delusional power of definition, that is, to believe that our seemingly real definitions refer to empirical realities_ _In psychiatric nosology, this takes the form of believing that what is authoritatively defined as a "mental disorder" corresponds to "a distinct and real disease entity." Once a purported illness has been defined, a psychological shift to reification often takes place: after a nosologist has stipulated a disease definition, it is a psychologically normal tendency to transform the definition, without giving this shift reflective thought, into a judgment that a corresponding object, a "real disease entity," exists with the defined properties. Definitions that purport to be real definitions carry with them, often in disguise, existential propositions that claim that what has been defined is empirically real. A name is given to a disease, its symptomatology is described, and then a leap of _*_misplaced concreteness_*_ frequently takes place that results in an unquestioned acceptance that a "disease entity" exists: a "mental illness" or "mental disorder."_ From Steven James Bartlett's book, *Normality Does Not Equal Mental Health: The Need to Look Elsewhere for Standards of Good Psychological Health*

[@speedypete4987]

Dude on the right of the stage is rockin his elder white male privilege by resting on a chair with ARMS. Also, he is wearing a JACKET,

[@buttonholes]

The issue for me is the difference between discussing these terms as a form of philosophy vs. the Marx quote that philosophers have interpreted the world but the point is to change it, which is very different. When people use these terms often on college campuses, often they really are just having conversations and only some people use the terms like wacko religious people as if the terms are infallible doctrine. But the problem isn’t with the terms the problem is with the people arguing their points which is the way it will always be. Hegemony exists; it’s simply a noun. intersectionality exists; it’s simply a noun. They are being so careful in this talk that they come off as if they are trying to teach the world about the bogeyman. I wish they had emphasized that simply discerning the logic of another person you’re talking to requires the same standards as any other situation. Instead they seem to be politicizing against people’s use of these terms, which is also priest-like of them because they are apparently students of all of this terminology. It’s as if they are telling you don’t read what we read because we have the final interpretation on it and it’s just religious dogma-stay away. While I agree with almost everything they say, is their audience so illiterate that they can’t just read the material and come to the same conclusions for themselves? Like Jordan Peterson and a lot of the material that he criticizes-I wonder if he has ever put it together that the material he read that he didn’t like and that he will never get those hours back-it’s given him his entire career and the language from which he is able to put forward his philosophy-and that’s the point of a good college education. Thank God people are reading different points of view and bad points of view. How does anyone think progress about? I just feel like these three intelligent people are using their time to teach bias rather than analysis, which they purport to be teaching. Their approach could lead to movements for burning books.

[@christopherlord3441]

Very good discussion but I think you are maybe too close to this particular school of thought, which is temporarily dominant in academic circles. These same arguments apply in exactly the same way to the whole spectrum of what you could call non-scientific knowledge production. Social justice courses, transgenderism, contemporary feminism, and so on. So rather than seeing these as all sects of one overarching religion, it might be better to see them as competing invented religions, like say Mormonism and Scientology. So for example the self-righteous hatred generated among transgender activists for 'trans-excluding radical feminists' is more like the bitter dogmatic conflicts generated among religious sects rather than the less focused negative feelings of the religious against infidels. But I definitely agree with this theological approach.

[@dianadiana4627]

Wow! This made it so understandable. Great video!

[@AcmeRacing]

35:06 Tim Pool shows up.

[@Trome1200]

Lol... I love how he is just messing with his nails and the camera switches to him