Is iRacing still worth it in 2023?

[@SMOKEY-Junior]

AC with afew mods look better than anything out at the minute, but if you want the best online system for sim racing, iracing is where to go imo.

[@ross-carlson]

100% This

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

True. RaceRoom should be the next big competitor but the playerbase and servers are far too small. Otherwise, the quality would be just the same. The racing is great though

[@hackisack8523]

LFM

[@adrianchannelle8651]

Can you suggest a good mod source?

[@RandomUser-tj3mg]

Nah AC is far from the best looking racing game even with mods. Drive club takes the crown

[@ak1504]

Their AI racing is aweseome too and the options they give you for every single AI driver in the field are a wet dream for singleplayer racers and by far outstanding 😎

[@sim_racing_pops1675]

Yeah man the ai is pretty damn good love how they crash too under pressure

[@darrenwilks1587]

Been on iracing since Xmas, racing in rookies formula vee, it's the only sim where I can race a single seater career with a realistic physics engine, there just aren't enough online leagues for AC or RF2 out there for single seaters. So yeah it's pricey but it works (I'm looking at you RF2) and the sr and irating means you can actually race rather than get left behind it's a far more rewarding experience

[@dennisw.6787]

Lock at the open wheel challenge at LFM in Rfactor2. It makes a lot of fun, and you don't have to pay every month. Great work from them

[@simracingchannel7691]

I race mainly openwheelers and indeed iRacing is by far the best for that. F4, F3, F1 are my favourites. Also the VR performance is great.

[@vanillafloats7410]

Have recently purchased a steering wheel and pedals, put 25 hours into Assetto Corsa Competizione and loving it, but I see a lot of people I follow on social media playing iRacing more, so very tempted. Great video and info, thanks!

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

If you're new to simracing give Raceroom a try! Has the best sounds in the business imo and the racing is a ton of fun. But if you can get a good deal on iRacing try it out and enjoy!

[@daviddanser8011]

If you like GT3 than ACC is a much better sim. If you are interested in other cars and series you can try iracing. Big plus is the huge amount of content, but ACC is much better in GT3s which makes sense as it is their sole focus.

[@simracingchannel7691]

@David Danser i agree, ACC for GT3 racing is way better value. If you like openwheel racing then get iRacing.

[@eoleite]

I bought AC Ultimate, Project Cars, Project Cars 2 and AC Corsa all for less than 3 months of iRacing. I liked my iRacing experience but if you don't have the time to fully commit it is not worth it

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

This right here

[@naspotsev4658]

Obviously, it is on the costlier side and there are cheaper ways to enjoy simracing. There is even games that do some things better than iRacing. BUT… iRacing is the better and more reliable all around package. So in the end, it is a question of what you are willing to pay and what you are looking for.

[@ScholliUlz]

It's NOT. :D Iracing has mediocre physics. Mediocre graphics. Mediocre sounds. And a Multiplayer, that you can get with LFM for ACC and rf2. The overall package is not more than mediocre. For the fee only? Yes. I would recommend it. For the fee and content you have to pay - and you are not able to drive the content you bought? That's a joke and really bold. Iracing is an overhyped joke. A mediocre sim (like many others) with hilarious costs. Nothing more.

[@dbzcollector9963]

@@ScholliUlz you forgot to mention how iracing has the biggest online player base tho lol every other game has no more than a few hundred people playing at any given time compared to iracing always having atleast 10k online players minimum and that’s on the later hours when not that many people are on lol. Iracing may be bad in every other department (in your opinion) but you can’t deny the fact that there is always a lobby to join no matter what skill level your at compared to other sims.

[@ScholliUlz]

@@dbzcollector9963 And you don't realize, that this is the biggest joke? Biggest player base and that hilarious amount of money? For a mediocre sim? Iracing does not give me 10 percent of the immersion than other sims do. I know, that this is totally subjective, but I really don't understand, why there are so many people driving. And: iracing has a lot of empty servers and a lot of leagues, that nobody wants to drive. Every servers is full? Nope. They aren't. Most people want to drive GT3 and stuff like this. But smaller car classes - nobody is interested in driving races and the serves stay empty.

[@dbzcollector9963]

@@ScholliUlz I mean I never said it was the best sim available, I just said it has the most active players and it’s easier to find a race than any other game. Some games you don’t even have quick play anymore so your stuck looking through discord or something for lobbies. You may not get much out it but for me I just like the fact that I can find a race any time of day, all the servers don’t have to be full as long as there’s a good amount it’s still miles better than any other racing games servers, ACC official servers are dead on consoles along with pretty much every other game except for like forza which still has a small population and GT7 which is just full of ass brained drivers. I’m not sure what kind of setup you have but I have a Moza R9 with a Nextlevel racing HF8 and the game feels incredible. Every time I hit a curb my whole rig shakes so it feels more immersive, I started sim racing about 3 years ago and only now am I starting to feel like it’s an actual sim and not just a video game lol. The one thing I can agree is the price, it really is crazy expensive with having to keep up with the subscription and buying additional content just to participate it can get pricey but the experience is totally worth it to some.

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

​@@ScholliUlz "I know, that this is totally subjective, but I really don't understand, why there are so many people driving" You answered your own question with the first part of that sentence. There is no doubt iRacing has mediocre visuals and sounds compared to sims based on latest engines like ACC, and that its pricing is questionable, but calling its systems for physics, car setup, safety rating and driver rating "mediocre" is entirely and completely your subjective impression, which seems not to be replicated by the tens of thousands of people - including some of the best real-life drivers - who race on it.

[@thefueltap]

I've been an Xbox & PS gamer since I was a teen, I'm now 31 and currently awaiting my first ever gaming PC being built and delivered in the coming weeks. I bought a Logitech G920 for WRC and Forza and was hooked over the months. Though I've finally taken the plunge into the world of PC gaming and legit sim racing. I'm super excited. Pricey for the initial PC, coming from a console gamer where everything is super cheap and accessible - it was a bit of a tough swallow setting a budget of £1500 for a full PC set up, granted, this is pocket change for some of the PC's other people have, though for me it's quite an investment. I feel like the subscription service on iRacing is worth paying as I'd like the game to grow over the years thanks to the community investing in it, which it obviously has been. I'm super eager to get started and begin the learning curve, videos like this only affirm my excitement for it!

[@scottmeredith3359]

Bought a 2 year subscription on Jan 1 2021 on sale, and within 6 months I’d spent probably $500-800 on content. Don’t regret a dime of it. Awesome service 🙌

[@ScholliUlz]

What kind of service? :D The only service I got from iracing was an automated reactivation of my subscription and a three month journey to get my money back. :D They have no service. The have automated servers. They earn a lot of money and make the drivers believe, that's it's the nonplusultra. But it's not. There are very good alternatives, that doesn't cost the amount of a real car. That's all.

[@padoosh28]

With bad graphics and poor physics...if it's GT3 racing then acc is a no brainer it's the best SIM for it...iracing is for everything else

[@maxieboy]

@@padoosh28 except you don’t go to acc to play online. Sure, there’s LFM, but you have to first get your safety rating up, then do the 107% lap thing, and finally you get to race against other people. For people that want to race against others immediately iRacing is where you go, regardless.

[@amarokdcs1062]

I am literally the exact same man but 1 year later, I joined the service on Jan 1 2022, by august I had spend $892.65 on content, I own almost all road content and about half of ovals, other than a few straglers, it really drains the bank account

[@bjarulez]

I started at the beginning of season 4 2021 with 3 monthly subs, recently upgraded to year sub, spent about £800 but have all the content I need upto A class races, don't need to spend anything except new tracks and cars i want and yearly sub, I only regret one purchase, the Dallara iR01, but nothing else

[@Reekyracer]

The 5 years I have been on Iracing have been well worth the money spent and once you have the content you need over time you never have to re buy anything the people that I have met and the great friendships I have made and the communities you can get involved in are amazing and worth way more than the initial outlay of a couple hundred bucks

[@CZYcowboyintown]

I would play iracing if the monthly fee got you access to everything.... I just don't like how you have to pay stupidity levels of money to get access to more content bur even after that you keep paying just to play... rather one or the other... I love acc pay once an get all of it an you can play for hours an hours 🤷‍♂️ idk each to there own

[@konkola3295]

It’s insane to me dude. You can pay over a thousand for all the content, but if you don’t pay the monthly, they just block you off from using the shit you paid for. Insane.

[@ericheick7044]

And eventually cars don't have a series to race in. Lots of dead content that's still full price. A lot of new people buy cars they can't really race

[@hotshot3d]

Yeah but you do get quite a lot for just the subscription... would take you many many months to master the free content.

[@lilibordei721]

The price is force people sub consciously race more cleanly, also because the sim is just how do you say.. more of a sim than anything else If you are paying monthly you are silly

[@GrampsD63]

iRacing has the most realisitc set up system with corner weights so for an old GT/Trans Am mechanic like me who can't drive a lick it is definately tops.

[@TeamHorneyRacing]

Like real life modified and project cars, I’m too scared to add up how much money I’ve spent on sim racing equipment and software. All I know is I get huge amounts of fun out of it and have met some amazing people and communities through it. That’s worth more than money to me.

[@17peteclarke]

I got to B license by buying literally just monza, went production challenge for D - C, which was at charlotte for free, and then for C - B I used the mx5 in the advanced mazda series..

[@KalElRedK]

You get the AC Ultimate Edition for under 12$, so iRacing is not the cheapest to get started.^^

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

RaceRoom is literally free and the starter pack is 10 too

[@ЭдикНаЧердаке]

@@pedrosilvaproductions ....and has 5% of iracing playbase. Been there, done that :D

[@BenFilley]

my wallet hates me, but my brain gets the chemicals it likes so its worth it to me. also not getting a lobby full of asshole rammers is nice. Double entendre. Giggity.

[@Gearmeshkutt]

I have raced iRacing since they opened their doors. I own most other sims as well. If you like to collect cars and occasionally drive, iRacing probably isn't a good spend. If you love racing. Actually driving a car in competition, enough to buy a sim wheel and pedals. Jump in. You can control your costs if you need to, and if you have a little disposable income even better. There is literally non stop, skill matched racing around the clock with just the subscription content. Even with just the subscription, there is a well populated race constantly going off. As an example, there are over 110 racing events available (GT3, NASCAR, Rallycross). One of these events, the Mazda Rookie series has ~250 people racing at the moment, automatically split up by skill level across about 20 servers. There are ~12K racers on line at the moment.

[@kapill8990]

loved the vod. i agree with everything you said. even to the point where, it can be expensive however, it doesn't have to be expensive right off the bat. as you said every season is 12 weeks. so if you already know maybe one of those tracks, your not gonna race, you dont buy it yet. my point is, spend the money slowly, dont buy EVERYTHING at once. definitely try to get some deals, buy a new car and maybe two tracks and i believe you get a discount. iv been enjoying iRacing now for 3 years and i have purchased ALOT of stuff, easily close to 500$ but thats been over the course of three years. if u break it down, its about 15$ a month (less). not only that but something you didnt mention (iirc) is when u do start getting into C class, you can gain money/credits that you can spend on iracing, if you race so many weeks during a season, they give you 4-5$. so if you do for example, road course racing series for IMSA, 6 weeks or 8 weeks, and do oval racing series for say C class (trucks). you can acquire 10$. which then can be spent for the subscription, or a new track, new car ect. in the end, IF you do alot of racing and use this simulator alot, it eventually pays for itself. i now have every car and track i like to race so. i do a few races a week and every two months, i get one free lol. plus, the private leagues you can get into is unlike ANY other type of racing simulator/game. the game isnt cheap, but its alot cheeper than getting a real car, or worse, then crashing. its definitely alot of fun, but its not an arcade game. so you should have the mindset of racing clean or no, you won't have much fun.

[@soracing]

I got a free iracing subscription + the f4 car last year from the national motorsport organization from my country, and iracing is now absolutely my favorite sim and I'm looking at buying some more cars and tracks now.

[@777HPNEXTGEN]

Maybe IRacing figured since you have thousands of dollars wrapped up in your pc and sim rig you could afford a subscription LOL 😂

[@Jpilgrim30]

The rookie content is free but I was out of rookies in three to four races for every discipline. The free content doesn’t last long but I don’t mind paying for content.

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

Same happened with me, but some people stay in rookies for months. Just stay out of the way of others, and try to arrive in the middle of the pack and you get out of it in no time

[@sjorsrozendaal218]

You forgot one thing, when you stop your subscription you cannot access any content anymore, even the DLC you paid for.

[@scottmeredith3359]

You’re paying for the right to access the platform and content, did you think they were going to put it all on a dvd for you and mail it to you? Read the terms of service and don’t sign up next time

[@sjorsrozendaal218]

@@scottmeredith3359 thank you, fanboy, for your wisdom. The content you buy should be accessible offline when you subscription ends.

[@RacingWithChuck27]

Well, one thing you said that’s true, if you like MP, no one does it better right now. Rennsport is coming out and they’re doing the subscription model also. Iracing is more for the serious “sim” racer not gamer. If you add up what is spent for your rig, this is cheap imo. It’s all relative, if you’ve have hobbies like golf, boating, fishing, sport bikes, the likes of this is cheap. People spend more on Starbucks monthly then what a subscription costs. To each his/her own. I’m no iracing fanboy, I am a league racer and that has kept me at iracing since 08. Not a fan of the tire model, you get to about 98% and there’s not enough yaw in the tires/cars. Below that # it’s great. I’m hoping that Rennsport has taken all the years of the good and bad from all that’s been out here in sims and learned from it. Oh, and isn’t Traxiongg owned by MSG, the devil of sim racing companies right now

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

I would say they should either have the sub and/or have a discount on cars if you have the sub or make you pay for the sub and have the content in bundles. One of the biggest problems for me, aside from paying and having to have 5000 programs to have the sim running to its full potential, is that you can buy a car and not like it/not adapt to its driving style requirements and have that money spent. They should at least let you try the cars out. Also, they could sell you season passes like a discount on all cars and tracks for this particular season. If you compare to other hobbies sure it might be cheap, but for golfing or fishing you can always sell that stuff you bought if you're not willing to use it anymore, whereas you can't sell your iracing account (at least not legitimately I guess) and your whole content if you're done with it

[@RacingWithChuck27]

@@pedrosilvaproductions in maintenance or new build you can try all content. Will see how Rennsport does their deal. I hope their IR & SR rating are different better

[@SimRacingVeteran]

@@RacingWithChuck27- I was saddened when I heard MSG owned a few sim racing content channels.

[@Captivateitmedia]

Great vid. But would never ever in a million years, pay the prices to play. Too many other options out there to play just as much fun as what sim racing offers.. but if they lost their pay to play type logic / purchasing of items separate. Ie cars. Tracks. Then maybe I would consider it. But for now. Not giving iracing one single penny from me. But again. Great vids as always.

[@777HPNEXTGEN]

IRacing is the best sim on pc. No question. NASCAR Racing 2003 is great as well.

[@tamaslichtenberger8529]

started ~2 months ago, and i really like it (using a Moza R5). maybe I missed it, but that has been missed in the video, de based on series completion (at least 8 out of 12) you get $4 (D and C class), and $7 (B and A class), max $40 per year.

[@1995oskardukowski]

Yup but there is a limit arround 40$ year. I got today my first 4 $ paycheck from Iracing and feel funny. You spend 100$ here you 4 $. I love Iracing

[@tigreporteador]

I feel like assetto corsa competizione is a lot better value. You have a lot less cars and tracks, but still it is plenty of fun, the multiplayer is good too and you can find it cheap.

[@Snyix481]

imo the multiplayer in acc is terrible. the netcode is much worse than in iracing and most of the open lobbys are just carnage

[@adlimohamed_]

ACC... Multiplayer... Monza... all hell break loose at T1 @@Snyix481

[@RunN1st9]

The cost of iRacing definitely adds up. Also worth mentioning… you can host your own races with a mix of humans and AI drivers but it cost $.50 USD (per hour).

[@scottmeredith3359]

Or you can do as much AI racing as you want included with the subscription

[@ScholliUlz]

Or you can play other sims and don't pay that hilarious amount of money.

[@Kadori328]

What a scam

[@dutch_bullet]

Been on iRacing since the beginning (and spend alot of money on it) and I'm A license on road and oval. But the community has become worse every year.

[@ross-carlson]

If you're looking for multiplayer racing and have spent many hundreds if not thousands on your gear then the $500 you might spend on iRacing is absolutely 100% worth it - there is NO better way to race online, period.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

AC1 be like "$12 a month I'm only $5 for life on sale!"

[@stevebeard9656]

Being an older gent I have just bought my first gaming pc. i do have a PS5 and play racing games on it but was looking at getting something for the PC and was thinking about Iracing. I am not thinking about it anymore. i didn't realise you had to pay for stuff to advance further on top of a subscription. If I buy a game I buy the whole game once and don't want to pay a monthly fee so thanks for your review of the game. It has saved me a few pennies

[@racingsimaddicts7563]

Pretty major change for rF2 coming 2/21/23, they will finally have "race against content you don't own". With that and LFM, it will be a pretty inexpensive option.

[@ravingracer9075]

If you can get on track

[@ScholliUlz]

@@ravingracer9075 in iracing you can't go on track if you stop paying. THAT ist the biggest joke. They force you to pay the fee AND the content. It's bold. Nothing else.

[@daviddanser8011]

RF2 is very good, but it still lacks numbers on LFM unfortunately.

[@tyczekp]

I'm glad I watched this video. No, I am not getting into iRacing, thank you. ACC and AC will do just fine until AC2 comes out.

[@heavenlykingdomrelaxation1324]

Hey sister? Great video and you got convinced that this is the sim 4 me! God bless all of you brothers and sisters in iracing! See yall soon on the rookie tracks!

[@stephanestaelens5914]

209 dollars to get to GT3 that will take you around 24 weeks. Once you're in GT3 class the costs drops to your subscription every month, except if you by more cars and tracks. How many tracks do get once you're in GT3? Looking to get in to iRacing once I get a PC

[@ralfgrenzer2462]

Thanks for the nice presentation, but you forgot the ADVERTISING tag.

[@eliteproductions7636]

Can you race any type of cars in single player? Or do you still have to have a higher license.

[@nukedogger86]

"Worth" is subjective. I'd say it's definitely geared towards those who are trying to be actually competitive online, but for someone who is more casual, not so much. The pricing model is less than desired, because even on a good deal, $80/yr not including cars/tracks. Then if you don't pay the sub, you can't play at all. At least in other titles, I bought it, I can play it whenever.

[@johnelectric933]

Good hobbies are seldom cheap. How much is it to get started with R/C cars ? $500? R/C planes are $2000 and don't come with a reset button when you crash. Those high speed Bass fishing boats cost thousands and will cost you $100 in gas every time you use it. Amateur Radio can be a money pit. Most hobbies will cost you $500+ to get started. If you get a G29 wheel new then decide you don't like it, you won't lose much selling it. Used ones are in demand. With the way iRacing is set up to drain your bank account slowly and evenly, I don't mind paying for it. I am a tinkerer so this is an ideal hobby. I just added a TruBrake to my pedal. I may build a bass shaker system this month. I used to work at Summit point many years ago. What impressed me about iRacing is it feels more like real racing with the code of conduct and especially the safety based class system to keep it more realistic. I have a copy of FlatOut if I get the urge to just wreck things.

[@sweatp4nts]

when you buy a subscription like the 3 month subscription, does it auto renew or do you have to manually renew it?

[@OverTake_gg]

I think auto renewal is always on (on those payment systems where it is allowed, like credit cards). Just dont forget to turn it off if you don´t want or need it anymore! - Rene

[@MrCoschta]

Me, an MTG player, laughes hard on those rookie numbers

[@unclecharlie.]

you forgot the extra VAT...

[@vecnejhipik5349]

Dont support such a toxic monetisation. Join LFM. Iracing is a racket. its 2023 not 1998.

[@scottmeredith3359]

If you’re broke go drive something else. What the hell online racing simulator service were you paying for in 1998?? 😂 That metaphor doesn’t even make sense lol

[@vecnejhipik5349]

@@scottmeredith3359 You are right monetisation of iracing is more like it did come from stone age. 1998 was too kind.

[@SwigerQ86]

I have 9 racing games collecting dust because of iracing, ill never have to buy a racing game again. so i think it evens out.

[@ICeranityI]

Switching from ACC to Iracing this week. So they still attract new players 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@VectorAero]

Wow NASCAR Racing, that brings me back. I was really impressed with that game's physics and graphics when it came out.

[@JohnnyEMatos]

6 months ago I bought 2 years of iRacing coming from ACC and AMS2. I've had amazing races that I'll never forget, but can't make it my main sim depite the multiplayer system, just because I find the GT3 cars don't feel intuitive to me. I find that the ABS penalizes you way too much, like I can't even use 5% brake pressure into an apex because the ABS seem to be made out of rusty iron. Also, I feel like releasing the brakes like in any other gane will not give you the desired rotation and it feels like it demands you to take most corners in a very rounded way, almost as of you were driving a formula car. I also feel like you can't fight the car or drive on the limit like in other sims or it just spins out of control unexpectedly. Does this mean the game is bad? Absolutely not, it just doesn't give me the feeling I want out of a GT3 car, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the other series and the unrivaled competition it offers. Take the Porsche Cup for example, it is just amazingly fun and competitive at the same time.

[@daviddanser8011]

This exactly sums up my experience, driving in acc feels much more intuitive for me. It feels like abs is none existent in iracing, still had some decent races in IR but I never feel connected with the car. Can still be reasonably fast on IR but it just lacks the feeling that ACC has.

[@racekar80]

Some may look better but the competition is the best on IRacing, once you get your A license.

[@redeyes4126]

To be fair you don't need to spend that much to get too gt3s, you can get out of rookies then race gr86 on a free track to get too c licence (or buy 1 track) if you get all the races needed in the 1 week, then just buy what you need to get through the licences by meeting the mrp in 1 week per licence. I got too b licence with spending probably about £60

[@X1erra]

I find that iRacing can get you into bad habits fast by the cycle of getting into accidents, worrying about SR is very punishing even if it’s not our fault. I say iRacing is worth it if you like grinding. Else just go for league races. I have more overall fun preparing for a race proper and race with people I know.

[@johannes7059]

Or just don't care about SR? Its pretty easy to keep SR imo

[@X1erra]

@@johannes7059 Once you get to the B rank it's.. a lot harder to keep up unless you join a longer race.

[@johannes7059]

@@X1erra i have kept my a licence for 2 years while driving 15 min sprint races. 😅 and even if I dropped to b, I would not care, I don't need to be a anyway

[@X1erra]

@@johannes7059 Fair point. It’s just a bit demoralizing to see my SR go down from a little love tap.

[@johannes7059]

@@X1erra true, but it's only numbers on a screen, the most important thing is that you have fun. :) I have lost a whole level of sr in the last week, because I got into weird splits with people that could not drive, so I just took a break for a week, so I don't get to frustrated. If you want to gain sr, the 1, 5-3h endurance races are a great way on the weekends

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

It has never been worth it, it's more than multiple streaming subscriptions plus you pay for each car and track. Devs laugh all the way to the bank. I've yet to see any justification for the price

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Yeah it's only as good as GT7, Mario Kart 8 at online racing but every thing else is so, so... Althoughh the cars they really car about feel the best of any sim I've heard. Which so the price they charge they need to be the best siracer. And they simlly are not.

[@ScholliUlz]

Thanks mate. Thanks a lot. Finally someone who is saying it. Iracing isn't bad. It's as mediocre as every sim out there. They all have their pros and cons. But iracing surely is one thing: It's simply hilariously expensive. There are many good alternatives meanwhile. I hope, that more and more people will realize it.

[@thegreatmilkguitar]

Well no one spins me in iracing and I can make it past turn 1 without getting griefed by some kid on a ps4 lol. I do not mind paying extra money to actually go racing and not play mario kart.

[@GarrettDrifts]

Everyone always ignores that iRacings tracks and cars are scanned into the service from real life. Just that part alone explains why they ask money per track and car, nevermind the numerous other Real world reasons. Licensing is expensive enough, now add “Can we also can the entire car and track to put in the game?” To it, of course the price is gunna get jacked up. Nevermind that its the only service I can find where some asshole doesnt use you as a brake marker or use the wall to keep speed like its forza. Also to the “Graphics suck” people, when you are constantly staring at the next apex, focused on your braking point or anything of that nature, the LAST thing you are worried about is some pretty graphics. The same 3 things are regurgitated on every “is iRacing worth it” Posts. This is RACING, racing is expensive. Even if its a damn game

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

@@GarrettDrifts trying so hard to justify an old game that costs 4 figures to rent is always hilarious

[@scottbrown8142]

I spend 100 bucks for race fuel for my dirt bike for a weekend of racing , 200 bucks seems like a deal and dint have to worry about getting hurt.

[@c.p.coolepros1460]

I got some ultimate timing and when I got out of rookies, I could race the gr86 on a free track. Then I decided to buy the Ferrari 488 gt3 evo 2020 car and a track to go with it. Again I got ultimate timing because when the Ferrari raced on another track, I was already class c. So only bought a track and a car and now class c

[@turboeddy]

Great Video, thanks! 😀

[@JaymondoGB]

You can have all types of racing on ASM2, including road cars, (most are free) better Graphics too without the cost.

[@AB-mw8oz]

AMS2 just lacks the online aspect Iracing has, and the AI are nowhere near as good

[@CultCase]

Thank you Emily!

[@BGR_33]

Hi Josh, does this league have a Discord? I’m interested in racing the legacy V8 Supercars.

[@SkywalkFPV]

AC Ultimate from G2A for 20,- then you pay 1,- for Rainfx and 1,- for Pure (or sol weather that is free) then you have the best looking and handling sim out there with endless 'free' mods and great community!.. Then after I would consider Raceroom over iRacing, that also has in depth ranking system if you into that - and the overall cost should be lower, they both also offer great VR support.. For iRacing I would at least want to see graphics comparable or even better than AC and or prices heavy reduced, it is so bad they should actually shame on themselves..

[@marijn17s]

Yesn't

[@MikeSmith-yy1lv]

You forgot to mention the $10 credit you get for participating 8/12 weeks and you can also just look at the schedule and buy only 8 of the tracks.

[@Romandevision]

I started using the service a month ago. When I bought the subscription I felt sorry for the 15$ for the annual subscription, I didn't understand what I had to pay the money for. At the moment I have bought all the oval content.

[@thegreatmilkguitar]

Bruh if it’s too expensive just don’t buy cars or tracks you don’t like. I do wish they would let you use all cars offline though, so you could test them out

[@Daz5Daz]

Is it worth it? Yes and no. No because it is too expensive. Yes because it is 1 of 1 in terms of the market place it occupies. My advice for anyone wanting to jump into iRacing though however is not to bother unless you are prepared to spend £400 in your first year.

[@taylorbertrim7625]

Fair and clean. You haven't been in rookies in a while. No matter how clean I race, someone is smashing into me, and I get penalized in the game, because it's not about how cars made contact just that they did... So I can get steam rolled in 3rd place by a lapped car... My race is ruined, my time was ruined, and now my iracing rating is ruined. I'm not perfect, I don't expect people to be perfect. But fair and clean..... Meh. That's yet to be determined. I'm paying a subscription, I still had a guy going opposite way on the track smashing people... It's no different than Forza or Gran Turismo just cheaper entry level as you can get in iracing at 10$ and Gran Turismo is what 70$-80$

[@simracingchannel7691]

If you cant get out of rookies then you are doing something wrong. Just focus on finishing and dont race to hard, in rookies half the field will crash themself out anyway. Your only objective is to not die, if you can manage that you will be out of rookies in no time.

[@oxymore4190]

too expensive, and graphically outdated and physically worse than the others, but best online...

[@Urufu-san]

Most people don´t play iRacing, they race in iRacing

[@ewenblack4174]

Thank you sir

[@konkola3295]

lol ok bud

[@Urufu-san]

@@konkola3295 it’s not a game, no matter how iracing themselves word it exactly. It’s a simulation. Not perfect, of course, but with the right motion rig even real life drivers are impressed. Not on a Fanatec setup, of course.

[@the_JDM_fanatic]

Anyone got promo codes? I wanna get involved please and thank you 🙏

[@Sect76]

Thanks Emily, great info, I wish I’d seen this when I started years ago.

[@patchyone123]

Fab video. Just got my class C road so starting to think about a longer term path now... financially lol :D

[@seeum2098]

Nice

[@harrylindstrom57]

The biggest con for me to buy iRacing is the subscription too expensive to me and old Graphics.

[@kurok1tenshi]

Is it worth it?no, the monetization model needs to change. the cars and tracks are expensive but in the long run they are a fraction of the subscription problem. imagine 10 years of subscription, if you race 4/5 times a week you may extract some benefit now imagine that you can´t pay the sub. but wanna race? gl.You know it´s bad when even multiple racers ponder appon it, or even try to "sell" it to the public, cringe at the prices. Everytime Emily brought up the cost of this and that you can see her mentally cringe at the worth lol.If you are someone with the wallet for it and just wanna race then you won´t even bother with the video but for the rest we wonder if it´s worth it, great sumise Emily, thank you.

[@sim_racing_pops1675]

I tried iracing was good . But I’m a single player racer so paused my subscription can see it costing more than I want to pay .

[@fullsendmotorsports77]

If Kunos released a new ACC every year would you buy it? What if it had new tracks that weren't available in the previous version? Or maybe it has newer cars and you want those. Would you still pay the money each year? It also depends on what you want from it. If you are happy to race AI and not race other humans, then ACC is great, or F1 is great, or AMS2 is great. What your iracing subscription is paying for is the infrastructure that supports the multiplayer online experience which is beyond compare. Plus, if you are smart, you renew your subscription each year during the Black Friday sale at 25% off and save a heap of money.

[@sherifashraf1139]

after buying a car or track, should I pay every season or it is life time?

[@timo6033]

Life time

[@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X]

You keep the car and the track, but without an active subscription (which you have to pay for!), you cannot access your "paid" cars and tracks.

[@sherifashraf1139]

@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X thx

[@peinmilan]

Sometimes they retire a car or eliminate the series the car was running in. You will still "have" the car, but it will be kinda dead for multiplayer.

[@MrKrampyHands]

I want to try iRacing but its insanely expensive in the end i could buy 5-6-7 games on pc for that kind of money i can do extremely good gt racing in Assetto Corsa Comp i just got it for $11 and then every dlc for $20 a copy of dirt 2.0 and all dlc for $8 and then i got drift racing x online and all dlc for $12 i don't know man its hard to sigh. Up for iRacing its really expensive i want to buy not at that price

[@ribasiba8726]

How is it free if I have to pay a subscription? Is this a free "review" or a subscribed one?

[@scottmeredith3359]

Because there is free content to access the base content like a demo.

[@ribasiba8726]

@@scottmeredith3359 lol, demo is not a game. U do know that joke when bill gates dies and is shown a heaven and a hell just to be told later that what he saw in hell was just a demo? But anyhow, if u like it so much keep throwing $$$ at them.

[@joshjmilli]

How is this video even a thing? Yes, iRacing is worth it. It’s the most popular and most competitive sim on the market. If you want racing, play iRacing. If you want graphics, play anything else.

[@slon3894]

Its not Worth it its the Single worst racing game in existence with the best physics ever

[@mrgusse]

IRacing is the best if you want the sim to accurately simulate the costs of real racing. Also although all tracks are laserscanned many of them are very old so the scans aren't accurate anymore. And one final thing, sure they do have a lot of content, but A LOT of it is not even used in active series anymore so while they can brag about having this and that, not all content is even usable anymore.

[@deadmanwalking1930]

''although all tracks are laserscanned many of them are very old so the scans aren't accurate anymore. '' Nice to see they use all that money they make from you to give you the best experience, right.

[@yippykayak5842]

It really is expensive to an absurd level. People in here saying they’ve paid hundreds and hundreds of dollars and they’re happy. Fair enough, but iracing must be making an absolute killing, charging triple A title prices for a car and a few tracks (on top of $120 a year), and people keep coming back. Madness. I love multiplayer racing so I’ll no doubt still do it, but knowing the entire iracing team will be laughing all the way to the bank is quite painful

[@XET-bigboss]

the tittle makes me so angy

[@therotarylife3986]

If anyone is crying about " how expensive" i racing is the. They can go play mario cart . Been on i racing since 2020 and have loved every second of it !

[@atanasdamyanov4612]

Iracing is the closest to real racing for me. Nothing else comes even close(I don't dive GT3). I love spending my money for something that makes me happy.

[@ROYF236]

Think I’ve spent 90 dollars and I’m now ‘A’ class on road .👌👌

[@1984kylea]

Iracing is entirely worth it, cost of entry keeps the riff raff away.

[@vecnejhipik5349]

It does not. Thats what we all tell ourselves but LFM or even RaceRoom is the same.

[@arivasu1759]

LOL. That must be the understatement of the Year. The "riff raffs" are plenty in IRacing. I often watch races and keep asking myself, why pay all that money for the BS going on. It just showed not to long ago how screwed up things go on iRacing even on so called Professional level. There's a saying "Money talks, BS walks" and iRacing does both at the same time. For that, I don't need to spend that kind of money. But like everything in life, each his/her own. Drive what you think is best for you and where you get the most Joy out of. Everything has it's pros and cons you have to life with. With that beeing said, enjoy this great Hobby.

[@vecnejhipik5349]

@@arivasu1759 Amen

[@1984kylea]

@@arivasu1759 you mean overstatement?

[@arivasu1759]

@@1984kylea yep😁

[@linzkirk]

So after trying nearly every other sim I finally got iRacing a few days ago. With all other sims they seem to have good points and bad points. Assetto Corsa looks great when modded, great in VR, physics are great but I think lacks decent online rated racing. AMS2 Looks Great and doesn't need modding, questionable physics and online racing is not there yet. ACC probably better than the other 2 for online racing but runs like a bag of turds in VR. GT7 is great in VR. I really enjoy sports mode, rating is great but races are repetitive and only really 2 each week to choose from (race A is a waste of time). So iRacing instantly got me in. Great VR, runs well & physics are closest to real like ive tried. And without a doubt the best online racing I have expended so far, only down side is the price, but after doing a few races I can see why people think its worth it. If i'm wise it shouldn't be an issue. If I get Black Friday deals etc it will actually work out cheaper than my PS plus subscription, which I will probably cancel because I only use it for GT7. after 4 days of iRacing i'm loving it, just moved to D class on my 4th race and about to race Ferrari GT3 cup. so the Ferrari 296 was £10, this weeks course is a free track, but I think I will buy 3 tracks. Monza, Sebring and maybe Daytona. The tracks are so accurate they draw you in, I seem to know every inch of laguna seca after the MX5 cup races. I was so afraid of safety rating I practiced loads. great vid ive subscribed

[@mudtennis9842]

I legit got to a class by spending about $80 at most, no one is buying every track for each series as a beginner lol

[@layingblacklines]

4:32 Just a nitpick but iRacing is $13 a month, not 12. Also, it's not really 13 either as that's pre-tax. So for most people it's more like $15.60. Though you can do it cheaper buying a full year at black friday. The cars aren't $12, they're going to be $14.40 for most. Then the tracks aren't $15, they're actually $18. Don't know if in the states it's normal for consumer prices to be without tax (are the other sims listed pre tax? Can you claim tax back as a consumer?), but for the rest of the world we will be paying tax on top of the advertised prices. Something to bear in mind because for most of us that is adding 20% to the prices.

[@mace1367]

Thats sucks, not sales tax here, that plus the 20% discount helps.

[@layingblacklines]

@@mace1367 The 20% discount for having 40+ pieces of content? You get 10% for buying 3 at a time. 15% for buying 6.

[@mace1367]

@@layingblacklines yeah, after 6yrs I now have the 40 piece discount.

[@layingblacklines]

@@mace1367 That's good going then. That's what, around $630 over 6 years? So say $100 a year on content and $100 a year on subs. Not too bad when you look at it like that. $50 every 3 months. Or similar to buying ACC or rF2 every month for 6 years. Or factoring in all getting all DLC for ACC over those 6 years, iRacing would have only been 10x the price. And you get the forums included in that too. Plus other cars than just GT3, GT4 and various cup cars. A better comparison may be rF2.iRacing would have been 6x the price, but then the public lobbies are far more heavily populated. And pre-LFM you'd have spent most of those 6 years playing either offline or in leagues.

[@mace1367]

@@layingblacklines not sure on tracks and cars, but I always resub on black friday, year was $75 then they lowered the discount and it came out to around $80. So lets say $80 for yearly sub saved $120 in my time on it. Plus the participation credit, thats $40 a year.

[@1995oskardukowski]

2:53 i miss also real truck serie in Iracing

[@florianray1223]

For someone who has just a few hours per week to spend, it is awful value for money... Without offline training or 10 times the same (yawn) race, it is nearly impossible to get a good score (like 3000 or more) I want to race 10 different races with 10 different cars on one evening. Training is boring imho... I had good races in iracing but the top splitters are too aggressive for my taste... For example: When I accidentally push someone out, I wait for him and let him pass... Never ever experienced something like that in iracing

[@florianray1223]

Irating sucks... If you beat me with a car we do not know on a track we do not know after like 20 min of training with YOUR OWN setup THEN you are better than I am.

[@BatteryAcid777]

it seams very expensive and from what i saw the community can be toxic af

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

"it seams very expensive and from what i saw the community can be toxic af" There is no racing sim where there are no toxic drivers. Competitive racing environment gets emotions going, and some don't have the capacity to limit it.

[@BatteryAcid777]

@@SvalbardSleeperDistrict i was referring to people having a meltdown if you dare say anything negative about their precious IRacing

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

@@BatteryAcid777 "i was referring to people having a meltdown if you dare say anything negative about their precious IRacing" Same goes for any community and their precious games.

[@BatteryAcid777]

@@SvalbardSleeperDistrict no IRacing is special, people have a kind of Stockholm syndrome because it forces them to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

​@@BatteryAcid777 "no IRacing is special, people have a kind of Stockholm syndrome because it forces them to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars" If you are here for spamming claims, I'm not interested. Facts on gamers being defensive about their games are facts, your subjective opinions against some game's community - not backed up by anything - are your subjective opinions.

[@HeyItsEmilyLove]

Samir!!!! You’re breaking the car Samir!!!!

[@SlightlyMisunderstood]

Lol what's that clip @ 2:59 from?

[@CorneliusScipi0]

It's a famous video that became a meme. :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/emqQp6J_g6ueeck

[@SlightlyMisunderstood]

@@CorneliusScipi0 haha... That was great! Thanks. I take it the guy is no longer rallying?

[@spec10]

The e in Porsche is not silent :)

[@OverTake_gg]

We may need a little German lesson for Emily 😂

[@dirty_c5573]

Steam has 1 year subscription on sale for $25 Canadian so I had to buy it, I guess I should buy a wheel now lol

[@Mustang_kid]

I just started iracing, as a new commer rookie, and didn’t get more than 1 free car and 1 free track. Maybe time to edit your video

[@evodesignsracing5925]

no if you get punted by you in PESC

[@mificraft1144]

Her hair is making me kind of aggressiv. The one string of hair that is out of line XD

[@jimmy-the-bear]

So expensive...plenty of other more cost effective options. It also isn't the cheapest option to try out, Race room is literally free.

[@GalactusTheDestroyer]

Just signed up for 2 years for only $99. First time player. But I'm not new to Sim racing. I play AC, ACC, Automobilista 2, GT7. Also play in vr. Really looking forward to trying the game with my G29. Thanks for an excellent indepth video.

[@frederiquerijsdijk]

You forgot the Ford Ray!

[@SH-gc5fo]

If you want to drive in slo-mo this is the game for you. Bring a pillow.

[@deadmanwalking1930]

iracing is a bad joke. Terrible UI, a business model purely focused on greed. Silly high prices for tracks and cars, on top of that pay a subscription. They can keep it.