Is is too late to become a software engineer?

[@TheLastCodebender]

Codebenders, it's good to be back! I vanished for a while. Been busy completing some side quests. I have several videos planned for you! Update: I see a lot of comments, just want to provide some additional context. I am not in the camp of "its all good, AI will never replace us" and I am not in the camp "the apocalypse is near, we should just give up". It's 2 extremes, and it doesn't serve you to think emotionally in those situations. I like to look at the world in a pragmatic and realistic way. My point is that both options are possible, but I think AI replacing us is a real possibility that you need to prepare for. However, there is a lot that needs to happen for this to come true. Over the next decade or so, many new AI companies will be built and many existing companies will need engineers to integrate AI. I could be wrong on this, but that's something we already see in the market given how much money is being poured in, so I think it's a safe bet. Software engineering is still a good career because in the time we have before AI becomes a big problem, you can get skills, make a lot of money, and prepare yourself for the post-AI world much better than any other job I know. You might say I am biased because I am in tech, built a channel around it, have vested interested, etc. but 2 things here. Number 1, my main income doesn't come from teaching or yt, I have a business where I get paid a lot to implement AI solutions for companies, so I don't need this channel to do well (I don't even monetize my videos) and I have no interest speaking nothing except what I believe is true. Number 2, if someone in the comments sees a flaw in my reasoning or has a better suggestion for a career path, let me know. I would be interested to hear it.

[@zakiydev404]

Alhamdulillah you are back!

[@Aaditya_2112]

assalamualikum brother, are you sick, it looks like you are tired too much, may Allah give you shifa

[@zakiydev404]

@@Aaditya_2112 Zaurbek's last video was released 6 months ago

[@andrewvynarchyk4911]

There are tons of videos like this on YT that say everything will be fine and you can get an SE job(no doubt there’ll be senior positions on the job market), but my advice is to read the description of each video first and check if the author is trying to sell you something. Then keep watching with that in mind. AI will definitely have a huge impact on the junior-mid level positions

[@soothsayer1]

He is for sure selling courses but this guy actually does do a good job for junior developers and the industry as a whole by providing information that LLMs won’t replace developers. LLMs are trained on a lot of data, a lot of code. In essence a lot of code is bad code. So LLMs inevitably have their flaws and limitations. If you want to build performant, efficient and usable as an API for other developers code you must know programming very well. Abstraction is good but the quality of code overall has been dwindling rapidly last decades because people stop caring about the layer of abstraction below that in which they program. If we have all code written with LLMs (another abstraction) it will be a disaster, worse than now and now it is the worst of all time yet, not mentioning reverse engineering for hacking will be much easier if the code is written with LLMs. I wouldn’t give my personal information to the system which is written with LLMs, because even systems like software of Microsoft written by programmers who don’t care about the layer bellow that in which they program can be hacked (see Microsoft breaches if you want). We should encourage junior to learn programming, yes, a lot of their task can be done with LLMs and in essence you have to double check their code as much as you have to check the code of LLM but if we are in a situation where people only use LLMs to write code we are doomed

[@tommynickels4570]

Foolish to think AI is going to lead to job enhancement / job growth. The best will survive and will use AI. But half is getting the boot in the next year.

[@guanxinated]

@@tommynickels4570 Yeah, I don't see how this doesn't happen. GPT-5 is going to be brutal. Maybe it won't happen next year, but does it really matter if the time horizon is 12, 24, or 36 months? Maybe, in the sense that allows you to save money to invest in VOO or VTI and live off of that, but if you don't already have a stock portfolio worth $300k+, I'd say it's too late. Unfortunately, I don't know what to do other than cut back on living expenses and keep investing.

[@CoolIcingcake3467]

@@guanxinated "Maybe it won't happen next year" key thing here "Maybe" who knows? maybe OpenAI will release it on november 2025, the same month they released ChatGPT 3.5 and, LLMs are not just ChatGPT, there is gemini, claude, grok, maybe gemini 2, claude 4 opus, and grok 3 will be the competition, and this will be exponential. even if it's not, we still have deepmind, alphafold 2 and 3, alphaproteo, alphadev, alphacode 3 Neuro-symbolic AI, spiking neural network. it will be unknown

[@cesar4729]

A programmer should be the most reliable person to predict whether programming is in danger, but ironically human nature makes him the least reliable person to judge that. Apply that to any area.

[@arkzy_ananta]

100%

[@semsomify]

You're absolutely right. The way I think of it is when automation replaced humans in manufacturing jobs. You'd have a machine that does the job of 10-15 workers, and then have a worker or two to configure it, monitor it and do something if the production stops for whatever reason. So I believe that's how it's going to be for programming as well. How much time it takes until we transition to that is left for companies to decide.

[@gnperdue]

The real question to ask is - is it too late to be a human at all?

[@tacorevenge87]

😅true. What a bad time to be a human tbh

[@2290961]

😂

[@BeckieBlanchette]

enterprise-ai AI fixes this (Code complete projects in PHP or Python). Is it too late now?

[@theoldknowledge6778]

Guys, it is… Don’t fool yourselves. There will be no need to a human to program anymore. We programmers are not that special, we have to accept that

[@radektheplayer]

@HAMzA_ali_K Wtf is that question

[@Metarig]

Hey, let's be real here. If you actually wanna help people, why sugarcoat things? I get it, if someone's been coding forever and that's all they know, maybe it makes sense for them to stick with it and try to stay relevant. But for newbies just starting out? What's the point, honestly? It's obvious AI's gonna take over coding soon. There's no need to learn all these programming languages anymore - that's gonna be old news real quick. Sure, we'll still need humans to tell the AI what to do, but let's face it, that's not exactly a dream job. Be straight with your audience, man. Don't paint a rosy picture when the future's looking way different.

[@bestopinion9257]

The problem is, you cant just delegate AI to do everything. If no juniors enter the system, after some years there will be a need for more seniors... or people to supervise AI. That might be another boom for people entering the domain. But now, juniors are fked.

[@brocolli3096]

Salam aleykum bro, totally agree. I just started interning at a company whenever I try to use a LLM whether through copilot or through other providers, it gives me very unaware responses due to what you mentioned. I think the people that are scared the most are beginner programmers who don't have enterprise experience, or just AI enthusiasts. Additionally, the cost of running these LLM clusters are exponentially becoming more computational intensive, and this cost will be dropped to the consumer e.g. these enterprises, which not everyone can afford. Last point engineering has always been about solving problems, coding has been the means we communicate with the machine, if we can do that through natural language, that's just the next step, just as we did from punch cards to assembly, to C etc.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

I think you miss the core here - 5 years ago AI could not program shit. Context was 2000 tokens - now you CAN have a 128000 token context and if you look at programming specialized models (that you have no access to) there is one company that has a working model - different attention mechanism, a LOT more memory efficient - of 100 million tokens. That is enough to load all your business documentation AND the complete windows codebase and then tell to refactor it. What you see now is IRRELEVANT. What is relevant is what you see now compared to what you saw 5 years ago - then project that into 5 years, when NVidia says AI processors are 1000x faster. AI is going to overshadow humans in that timeframe and make you a comparable retard in a decade. Even if it does not replace all - are you the 1 guy out of a team of 10 that will survive? AI can get you fired without replacing you - make everyone so much more efficient companies downsize 50%, 70%, 90%.

[@mirek190]

you funny ... AI is not stop improving itself... you look only from this point of time not in the future. In a year will be much more advanced what we have now. Look what we had a year ago .

[@ThomasTomiczek]

@@mirek190 And there is ZERO implication for that - none whatsoever. The magical glass wall, contrary to everything we know from experiments. There likely IS a point where it stops - but we are SO close it is irrelevant. Please, consider that an argument should be based on reality, not in make-believe.

[@mirek190]

@@ThomasTomiczek reality shows AI is getting better and better every month. You not.

[@eg4933]

yep, exactly. machines cost a lot to maintain, improve. AI is no different, except it cost a lot more lol.

[@dasaauploads1143]

They will replace junior developers. Job placements are being reduced drastically while Senior engineers mostly prompt and use LLMs for their work.

[@peterwilkinson1975]

True most of the important knowledge will be knowledge of how programs work. The actual programming part will be automated.

[@elcapitan6126]

tell me where are senior devs mostly using prompts?? I don't know of any using prompting more than occasionally and generally only to avoid doing a google search for some technical detail of some library/framework or language. it's a relatively small portion of the real world work that goes on in dev based companies. it's useful but extremely over hyped by the masses.

[@dasaauploads1143]

@@elcapitan6126 the last 2 companies where I have worked with, the current one being a multinational fintech.

[@tommynickels4570]

This guy is in denial. Ai doesnt need to replaxe every software engineer to ve disruptive. But take out 25% through efficiencies .... means new hires are few and far between.

[@mdesnica]

Yes, even if AI does the 50 % of the (less advanced) work, it still does software developers work, and the market will be saturated, although not vanish. That is bad enough, especially for juniors.

[@mando5279]

He is right. Currently AI is just a Buzzword for Investors to earn huge amounts of money. In the future it will be used by Developers as a supercharged Intelisense/Autocomplete.

[@mdesnica]

@@mando5279 AI stands for "All Investment" 😀

[@thaRealShady1]

If AI takes over jobs the se market, than it will also take over any other job at that point.

[@JR-lz4bz]

The role of a dev won't go away completely, there will always be a need for someone to supervise the output of the AI. But it's going to make competition for junior and mid roles much more intense. And the market is already pretty brutal for newcomers.

[@tarcus6074]

Saying that AI did not replace any devs is totally incorrect. AI increasing productivity significantly. If 10 devs with AI can do the same amount of work that 15 devs without AI do, it's just a matter of time when those 5 devs will be laid off...And it's already next to impossible to get a job as a junior dev...

[@ahmed-dp4ju]

You are right before the release of gpt o1

[@denitechYT]

Let’s goooo bro. Watched the whole thing and pumped to get started.

[@phen-themoogle7651]

Well, Step2 is logical reasoning machines (we barely reached this, took a couple years), Step3 is Agents (might take less time to implement/slowest 2 years), according to openAis plans, so they are going to be better coordinated to do a wider variety of jobs in a year or two. You can become anything you want to be, that doesn't mean you will be able to get a job or have a job forever in that field. It's just a mindset... and the mindset will be important for when you have AGI or ASI that can do your job better than you (whenever those come, anywhere from 6months to 20 years from now), money will be irrelevant when theres billions or trillions of AI workers, everything should be given to humans for free if we are still in control then. Like we are the children of AI, thats what we will become, unless we are enslaved or treated as irrelevant to them >.< But you can continue doing what you enjoy doing, if you are allowed to do it and it doesn't become illegal or punishable by death.

[@godmisfortunatechild]

If you're just getting in yes it's too late.

[@ismaelplaca244]

the writing is on the wall

[@hassnainali2176]

Not only software engineers but I think before us , the doctors, engineers, drivers, waiters, teachers, professors, cleaners you just name it, gonna be vanished too.

[@2290961]

If that is the case everyone will be out of job, and hence no salaries, and no tax collected from working class people, due to this consumption of products by people will greatly reduce, hence all the companies revenue will greatly reduce. If this continues economy will completely collapse. Then suddenly all the automation and AI that has replaced humans has become the worst thing ever!! I believe Jobs are what holds the whole economy together.

[@bestopinion9257]

@@2290961 It is not a collapse, it is evolving. That happened all the time in the past. Back then most people worked in agriculture. Now a few people with machines and tools do the whole work. And because of that people can involve in another domains. We'll se where this is going, what opportunities will open.

[@JohnDoe-jp4em]

It's not going to be the case that a switch will get flipped and all SEs are out of a job, it will be more of a gradual replacement, because with the help of AI one dev can do the work of 2, or 3. And unless the demand for code will keep increasing with the capability of AI to create that code, I don't see how SEs can perpetually stay ahead.

[@Smolandgor]

The funny part is if AI can replace programmers why do we need software companies? If a small company of 30 people using ai can build clone of AWS or microsoft with all it's services but much cheaper for example...why will we need them?

[@eg4933]

it just comes down to cost. Like any machine, it cost a lot to maintain/improve it. Once these cost get to high, its more cost effective to turn over back to human labor, and back to AI and this cycle continues. People forget theres soo many things going, not just AI, that can affect jobs. We had machine automation for decades/centuries now, but still many more manual jobs. It will just be a graph of jobs done by AI vs Humans over time. And cost comes in many ways like time, effort, interest, skills, money, etc.

[@user-lv4gm1mw2p]

no copilots won't replace pilots.

[@BruceWayne15325]

AI won't be replacing developers anytime soon, but it will affect salaries. Everyone focuses on AI's impact on coding, but it will be a much broader impact honestly. I think we're going to see an averaging of salaries across most fields as AI continues to improve. Why? Because it will start to make an entry level employee almost as effective as a senior level employee. As that becomes more true, salaries will normalize. There's no need to pay a much higher salary for an experienced worker. The really bad part about this is that the gap between the middle class and upper class is going to be peeled apart like a bad band-aid. Those in the upper-middle class are going to be losing their homes and cars as they are no longer able to make their mortgage payments. This could cause another economic collapse of banks like in 2008. Basically, rough times are ahead (for all fields, not just software.) I think the future is ultimately brighter with AI though. It's just going to be insanely painful to transition into that future. My advice, live modestly and prepare for those rough times so that you aren't thrown under the bus when AI runs you over.

[@entinc1]

How do You find the right developer who knows AI and is ahead of the curve?

[@MrBorndd]

I am a software developer and ChatGPT writes 99% of my code. Its still nowhere near of replacing me though.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

* Do not use ChatGPT - that is the worst interface. * You obviously do not mean the CURRENT model that was released a day ago or two ;) They tested GPT-o1 in the Visual Studio agent from github and it did larger refactoring without errors.

[@eg4933]

honestly, it does 99% of your coding?

[@MrBorndd]

@@eg4933 Yes sure, together with Github Copilot. Just take small steps and it can pretty much do anything, all I have to do is give instructions. Even when it makes an error, I feed it the error and it corrects itself.

[@bapa39]

If all you do is code then it has by 99%. What do you do outside of coding that chatgpt can't do yet?

[@bestopinion9257]

It is enough to say it replaced entry level programmers.

[@ThrowBackZone]

It’s crazy to think that AI could be better at coding challenges than most humans, but real-world coding is way more complex. Can AI really replace the human touch in tech? 🤔

[@johannesdolch]

Yes, it's too late i would say. Sure, it might now replace you yet, but within 3 years? Yes.

[@eg4933]

yep. as weeks, months, years pass, manual programming will be shrinking dramatically.

[@whatisayoutubehandlebro]

but what if each company gets to have its own instance of gpt where it provides the entire context and codebase and works based on that, rather than solve insulated problems?

[@whoisyou6654]

no matter what you say, there are more and more people willing to work, but there will be fewer and fewer offers and more and more layoffs because one AI programmer will work for several

[@mirek190]

Have you seen new Devin implementation that will be available soon based on full o1? Getting over 70% .... that o1 is still based on gpt4 ..in the next year will be o2 based on orion ... and so go on ...

[@HoD999x]

i'm a prompt engineer now

[@chazzman4553]

To all your give questions is YES - too late, will take over, don't waste your Life. Because by the time you go from knowing nothing to an AI developer it will be too late. Jobs will be mostly left for CS Phd grads. Since AI development require excellent knowledge of MATH and I know you HATE math.

[@rommellagera8543]

There are jobs in SE but at 10k to 30k per year as offered outside Western countries With proper use of AI and up coming improvements in AI, system could be developed outside Western countries with minimal difference in quality if developed inside developed countries or in developing countries Take branded shoes in US as example, are there shoe factories left inside US?

[@SethGrantham-k1x]

I'm one who has constantly railed against everyone over the past 18 months about their delusional hype, and they just don't get the current technology, are trying to make it something it's not, etc. This new O1 model is legit though. This is AGI. Might be rudimentary right now, but it doesn't change the fact that the technological breakthrough has been made, and this is AGI. I view this as the equivalent as the first cell phone which cost say $5k, was a massive brick thethered to a 40lbs pack, but nonetheless, the technological breakthrough that allowed mobile phone calls was possible with it. That's what O1 is for AI. It's rudimentary now, but that technological breakthrough has been made. Now it's just a matter of fine tuning, minituraization, efficiency gains, and all that stuff which is just typical software incremental updates as always happens. AGI is here, the world has changed.

[@reiskoryphae]

Seems quite extreme

[@apricotmadness4850]

Your delusional. This is a series of inputs given to a program. It is not intelligent, it cannot actually “think” nor simulate deductions like a human. It still can’t even tell you how many “r”’s are in the word strawberry. An AGI would be able to generate and modify its own code, it wouldn’t need any human input. It would be a constant self evolving entity, a living program at that point. It’s a term used to describe a technological singularity, not a chatbot on steroids. This isn’t SAI, it’s not AGI; it’s not even Chat GPT-5. It’s just a presentation of tech they’ve already created made better with different techniques in order to hopefully secure more investor money and attention before their company dies due to being in serious debt. It’s people like you who fall into the hype the most.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

@@reiskoryphae But it is right in the projection over some years. We do not even know how good o1 is - it is an early version with limited training. And the we get gpt-5 with is trained on similar concepts.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

That pretty much sums it up. The funny thing is that the o1 progress is obvious - train System 2 thinking into an AI and whow, it does reflect and planning. Only possible because now we have larger context windows and can tarin on larger snippets. If you project that some years - and replace the underlying GPT-4 with GPT-5 then yes, this may well be the first step to AGI that one can have. I know another company working on something similar - they have large context sorted out by their words, with near perfect recall on little memory (enough to keep it in memory) on a context of (attention here) 100 million tokens. if you combine that with o1's thinking (which will happen in months) that is frightening. We now first time can see that no, the model size is not even the limit - and training is, and we have been training very stupid in the past.

[@apricotmadness4850]

@@ThomasTomiczek I don’t know why my comment got deleted, but this technology is no closer to AGI than a dog is to a dire wolf. You are vastly overestimating and hyping this up falling into marketing ploys to convince investors that they can actually provide valuable products that make money.

[@BordinX]

Stop being so blind, this may not be the best time to become a programmer, but definitely the best time to become the boss, there are infinite SaaS ideas you can make use of chatgpt to create / integrate, creating a SaaS has never been so easy.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

Not sure - making an Idea that has no market - and that is omst - will not make money. ANything that has value will soon be replicated by 10.000 companies run by ai.

[@BordinX]

@@ThomasTomiczek You first need to validate your SaaS this way you dont start an idea for nothing, you can run SaaS validations for multiple ideas and then start developing the one that gives you a sign of success. AI will never replicate a SaaS this easy, at least not in the next many years, AI ends where we need to integrate systems / databases.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

@@BordinX It does not matter. if anyone can copy the SAAS for dollars then thousands will do. Any business to have value must have a certain level of uniqueness and if SAAS development can by fully automated then there is no uniqueness.

[@tumppigo]

Sorry, but your human bias is shining through. Within a few years AI will handle everything a software engineer does, including the more social/human skills. No need for most humans in that loop.

[@aymanee233]

While no one can truly predict the future of the job market years from now, if AI continues to advance at its current pace, no job will be entirely safe. The growth of AI could drive billions more into robotics companies, potentially transforming industries across the board

[@tommynickels4570]

Yup. Unemployment will steadily tick up as AI spreads.

[@guanxinated]

@@tommynickels4570 But if this happens the stock market will crash. I wonder what kind of contingency plans governments around the world have. Been thinking of buying some farmland here in Japan to grow shiitake mushrooms, but maybe that's a terrible idea. Most farms here are small-time operations, but what if big companies start buying up land and automating everything, driving down the price of agricultural products? It's so hard to model this kind of stuff.

[@tommynickels4570]

@@guanxinated We can't run from this. Unemployment is inevitable. Waymo Just announced 100,000 riders per week. 4 cities. 22 million miles. No driver. Now allowed to pick up at Airport and take highway (Phoenix). This will only spread. A million uber drivers about to be taken out.

[@ernestomotta5178]

o1 is just 4o auto prompting itself 😂

[@StonedApe420]

I tryied o1 in Cursor Composer, but had to reverted back to Sonet.

[@Imaan.088]

Happy Engineer's Day! Today, we celebrate the brilliant minds who build the future through innovation and problem-solving. Your dedication and creativity drive progress and make the world a better place. Keep inspiring with your passion and ingenuity. From Kashmir india

[@zdenekburian1366]

you are so positive because your country is a rising power, ready to take over the world together with other eastern and southern areas, but if you were an old european like us, you wouldnt be so happy seeing the black clouds clustering at the horizon

[@zxwxz]

I am a software engineer with 14 years of experience. AI will definitely have the capability to completely take over software development within the next 1 to 2 years. In most companies, about 80% of the time is spent on software interpretation, and solving the messy code written by humans is far more valuable than creating new code. Perhaps the current cost-performance ratio is not sufficient to directly replace all engineers, but it is only a matter of time. Soon, these processes will be accelerated by over 100 times and become 10 times cheaper, along with agentic workflows. My sincere advice is to join rather than fight against it, because you likely understand how to communicate details with AI better than your boss does. However, if you haven't entered this field yet, I suggest you refrain from doing so unless you are genuinely interested, rather than just seeking a livelihood.

[@tevtv3450]

What AI does is it will be a huge moat to the really god like coders.

[@tommynickels4570]

Yes. 100%. 2025 is final year of labour market.

[@zach.intech]

Dude AI is much smarter than humans. 😅

[@baay81]

thanks for sharing

[@Jaydeexsf]

What, we don't solve leetcode like problems in our jobs(in the future)

[@HABIBKHAN-zl1fq]

AI is exponentially growing Walikumassalam

[@daru25able]

too late to become anything because you haven't even started yet!

[@paulsingh11]

They buried a hole for us in O(n) time

[@yutoriotsu8848]

O(1) time, hence the name.

[@topgxpert]

No it does not because it cannot think it’s recursive algorithm. Ai now is dumb if ur job is going to be taken by Ai it’s because your job is repetitive as program where I work won’t say it’s laughable because we have truly create

[@akhilkirty9342]

He has a human bias. He is wrong! Our CEO at Nvidia thinks otherwise

[@amstorm8954]

Im beginner learning frontend chatgpt can find bugs in code rewrite html codes :D

[@deadlock107]

At the moment, AI is not capable of creating new features or modifying an enterprise-level application. And I haven't even mentioned the vaguely formulated specifications. Currently, AI is much more like a more powerful Google search engine, as it can provide more specific answers to the questions asked.

[@tarcus6074]

See ya in 5 years...

[@deadlock107]

@@tarcus6074 we will see, looking forward :)

[@mirek190]

magic word ... currently

[@kareevkawnine]

The thing is AI can automate certain tasks, but it will never replicate the complexity of the human brain. The real value lies in how software engineers can leverage AI to streamline workflows and enhance productivity. Testing and integrating these models will always require the expertise of skilled software engineers.

[@whoisyou6654]

no matter what you say, there are more and more people willing to work, but there will be fewer and fewer offers and more and more layoffs because one AI programmer will work for several

[@-TheMaskedMan-]

The fact that you used the word “NEVER” has just blown my mind. Any human who uses the word “never” when referring to A.I is simply hoping that something will not occur. Very sad.

[@thaRealShady1]

​@@whoisyou6654 I would argue that there is an infinite amount of software that can be written. Just think about just how much there is that still has to be automated.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

That is naive like hell. First, most engineers etc. are not really creative - most creatives are not. Second, at a time when AI processing cards get x1000 speed in 5 years for about x10 in price... NEVER is a retarded statement. NEVER covers 10, 100, 1000 years. NEVER say never - it automatically disqualifies you.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

@@thaRealShady1 Not really. AI can handle most of that and it does not matter how much is needed - what matters is whether AI can keep up and start eating into the backlog. But mostly - most automation will be AGI.

[@skywater9607]

I subscribed when you said subhanallah

[@sebinsebastian9404]

What about Allahu Akbar

[@pradhumn561]

😂 boom💥☠️​@@sebinsebastian9404

[@d4rkside84]

copium is still strong in him :D

[@mohammedirfaan3836]

Managers and business people will not be affected. But developers and QA people will be affected by AI growth

[@jamesdenmark1396]

Agree

[@bekim137]

They never replace humans but will make software building faster

[@meme_Overflow]

so many fking people will be thinking like that only when ai would get you on the road🤣 that time is probably 2 years from now

[@whoisyou6654]

companies will reduce programmers by 80% because progamist+ai will be work like 5 programmes

[@trashbin2166]

Habibi

[@bnnxd]

PHD level of reasoning, yet it still can’t fix a simple issue on a task for my work, it’s a joke. This is the 50th time I’ve heard that AI will replace software engineers yet it produces the most abysmal code I’ve seen. For the new guys, you are safe. If you want to become a SWE or something similar go for it. Don’t let these marketing tricks to fool you.

[@mirek190]

example? Or i should "believe" you?

[@raciawelli]

engineers will not be replaced. but the level of entry into the job market will start to be huge. engineers will need to have a minimum level of knowledge that allows them to correct AI errors and use its solutions. in practice, all junior offers disappear from the market. where will you get experience? i have no idea, good luck.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

Why not? If 1 engineer with AI can do the work of 10 - you think there is long term enough work for all? And that AI is not going to get better? Maybe read up the definition of AGI - and then realize processing goes up x1000 per 5 years at the moment for about x10 in price.

[@raciawelli]

@@ThomasTomiczek prompt will not write itself and the answer will not implement itself. this is why.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

@@raciawelli You assume that an AI can not take business requirements or participate in meetings via video conferencing - and then self-proimpt, when self prompting is exactly what you see in o1? REALLY? NEVER? Naive as heck.

[@raciawelli]

@@ThomasTomiczek not never ofc. But still, If I ran a company, I wouldn't leave AI unattended, no matter how advanced. even more, the more advanced the AI, the more I would keep an eye on its limitations. The last thing I want is AI doing whatever it wants in the company.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

​@@raciawelliThat - is hogwash. That is what you say now, based on current AI and your current cultural programming. Make AI reliable and within years even your perception WILL change. You seem to ignore - widely - that you can have AO watching AI and that AI follows it's prompting. You will end up with a hierarchy of AI being controlled by AI managers. And again, in 10, 20 years your attitude ALSO will change. If anything because human oversight is a surreal stupid thing when your company has tens of thousands of agents running around and you lack the humans or can not pay them.

[@joshuaadewale1409]

This is what it did for the law bar exams when it crushed it. They are not losing sleep. I think we should just calm down and see what will happen

[@techpiller2558]

"Software engineer" is indeed dying. "Prompt engineer for software" is the next thing.

[@AD-wg8ik]

You basically need to be a software engineer to be a successful prompt engineer for software. It's not like you can say "create a million dollar social media app" and it will work.

[@asepbahn3113]

just learn php

[@bestopinion9257]

yeah right

[@mintakan003]

A software engineer isn't simply a "coder". There's so much more involved. And the new round of AI, will move from DevOps to MLOps. There will be new levels of abstraction, new levels of jobs. (This is unless AI can do things end-to-end, which it is currently far from doing.)

[@type-dev]

Bro AI is just a damn tool

[@MehranPiltan_web]

Fuck open ai , Fuck ai , I can't find a new job better programming 😢

[@SMOKIE_YOUTUBE]

No matter what, but AI will never replace a Human mind and his way of thinking, we Human's are the best creatures in the World. Alhamdulillah

[@carlosluna6401]

😂 hope that is a joke, are you that naive?

[@ThomasTomiczek]

Arrogance goes not help you. I take it you are Muslim - let's play with that. You think that in the time between Mohammed and now - in a time when AI processors get 1000x faster in 5 years at x10 price in crease roughly - AI will not overtake the human mind? AI went n 7 years from "hey, the sentences make sense" to "whow, low PHD level". You tell me it will NEVER overtake the human mind? I am sorry, but that is an arrogance that is based on nothing. If you take the above increase, your phone will be smarter than you - and all humans. That ever lived. Together. Get a grip on reality - the progress is increasing. WIthout wanting to insult your religion - think about it like this: If god never changes, he has a power level. It does not matter where you put it - if AI goes the way it goes now for some more time, it will break that power level in thinking. New physics, anything. And we do not talk thousands of years here - not with the speed things increase now. The human mind - is nothing compared to what AI most likely will be - in your phone - in a decade.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

@@carlosluna6401 It may partially be a religious side - human exceptionalism because humans were made by god. There is definitely no logic right now visible as the human mind is a constant, more or less.

[@nonamenoname3662]

After testing almost full messages that I have had for a week, I have bad or good news for you. It is still far to even be close to calling it software engineer. I tested only the programming part. Just a few words: Yes, nice improvement but nothing more...

[@mirjalol_shamsiddinov]

are u muslim? cos u said Subhanallah. if so i subbed you

[@Fennec1919]

Coding is dead

[@Imaan.088]

Asalamualaikum sir why your not launching an Online course classes about software engineer and coding.... From Kashmir in India thanks...

[@lana_ieberli]

😂😂😂