Is it a whoop? - Emax Nano Hawk

[@Kabab]

Nano Hawk: bit.ly/3qrTQKw Table of Contents: 00:00 - Intro 01:35 - Overview 03:34 - The worst part of the quad 05:38 - Battery options 06:05 - Flight video Music: KZbin.com/UDACHINYC 600mah XT30 packs - bit.ly/2yuJYts Caddx Ant Lite 4:3 - bit.ly/3qp8ke5 My favorite small FPV camera. Unlikely to fit the Nano Hawk 1S FPVCycle whoop board - bit.ly/2Vy4OzZ Still in development. Will be listed here when done. Stay tuned to www.FPVCycle.com. We've been working extremely hard on a bunch of new things. ▼Join the FB group for more discussion: FPVCycle - Kabab FPV facebook.com/groups/37915... ▼ Tips? Patreon: bit.ly/2oGLP9b $1/mo from 1/4 of my subscribers will make me almost quit my job. Thank you -PayPal: www.paypal.me/kababfpv -Bitcoin: 1E4XZXoD4rS6MYWVWuenY7Kw2M1YgyNpoQ -Nano: xrb_1188ek5bd7tb9kw67asnp9o65byuoaxbtpxuznx1ribf75x78awywmakj55f -ETH: 0xD067F93811f2eC31CB1928901002dfdf9A492EF5 -LTC: La2KWYAjp4VT2Lq2M76pbjzXWvRyjpfCtG

[@WickyMA]

Sometimes it seems like emax's whole naming scheme is based on providing Kabab another opportunity to make fun of it in the OSD

[@high008rise]

Great observation lol!!!

[@WerdnaFPV]

Next year maybe emax will make a 7 inch LR quad: the Massivehawk I think I can see where that will go. XD

[@maceliusfpv370]

@@WerdnaFPV BlackHawk ;p

[@michaelraiman573]

Rewatching video 3y later it’s still so funny,

[@ferdifant_fpv686]

I loved how it flew in the first scene!! Its amazing how advanced these things are, that they don’t even have to spin the props to create lift!!

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Blurred name out in beginning then not after.. figured the Karen's wouldn't get 5 mins in lol

[@JaypsWRX]

Wait wth lol the first opening shot. Props weren’t even moving. 😂😂😂

[@JaypsWRX]

Nvm lol

[@benlacayo1811]

I love that you went into the the configurator, clicked on craft name, and decided "NANOC*CK" would be the optimal name. LOL. Great review btw.

[@gautamkrishna7421]

I mean he’s gotta do at least SOME essential setup🙄😂

[@benlacayo1811]

@@gautamkrishna7421 ESSENTIAL

[@jtrav1204]

I just orderd the nanohawk like 2 days ago, gutting it right from the beginning to use the FC in a babytooth build. Cant wait to see how well it does.

[@AdrianoCasemiro]

That music in the flight part could be named as "battery sag".

[@AsgardStudios]

Great video, Kabab! I love this class of quads. Perfect for ripping around my yard and over top of my house. I’m Currently enjoying the Mobula 6, but am building a custom rig with the HX100 frame, M6 motors, Mobilite 7 aio board, and the Runcam Split3-Lite. I should get decent flight time, and great vtx range (200mW), and HD recording. Just waiting on a part. :)

[@johnnelson8169]

do you think it could fit the 35mm props (uz65 has those) vs 31 mm? The ducts don't look as snuggly as many otther whoops so I think I might want to try this

[@Kabab]

I think maybe just barely

[@josephbove7477]

Great review! I agree with everything including the fact that the Emax Tinyhawk II is the best indoor quad on the market. When you talk to Emax please tell them this could be a home run if they included a 200mw VTX with an IPEX or U.FL connector, better props, ship it with a case rather than in a cardboard box and a adapter so you're not limited to the GNB 27 battery. Thank you Bob for all you do for the FPV community, it is greatly appreciated. Happy Holidays!

[@WEEBER13]

Loved that you duped us in the beginning! haha

[@jaro1454]

insta 360 r slim edition in the background?🤔

[@FPV-Drones]

I agree it's a great drone. The thing is that for me the stock rates are so slow... But when you change them to more agressive ones it flies so great! I only has a issue: with the RX loss... 😭 Great video Master!

[@DJDevine]

Good review. My favorite 1s build so far is my mobulite with 3*16000kv motors and 1 25000kv motor, interestingly it seems to give me more power and performance that I needed for the winter! I'm getting 3 to 4 1/2 min flights and that's moving quickly on 300mah 450s are next

[@DJDevine]

OH MY GOD! The 1s 450mah GnB packs make my mobultes sing!!! So Happy 😁 Merry Christmas 🎄

[@stevo4535]

Interesting for the board

[@ufochannel01]

you should try some edf blades to see if they might te the extra air your looking for while keeping the light end speed. very kool thanks for posting this.

[@tehllama42]

@KababFPV - So when will Emax drop an enlarged version of this on the 1103 motors they already make?

[@DJDevine]

I also wanted to say that the mobula6 CrazyBee board is pretty robust and the power/ground cable takes so much heat to get a solid joint!

[@Kabab]

That just means it has a large ground plane. That's the same for any board. The components unfortunately fry up regularly. That's the issue

[@ProjectMockingbird]

I've been flying my micro, "The 22" all summer, and yes you are on to something, but the sweet spot isn't 65mm props at this size with 0802. We just need 0802's with longer 40mm wires more commonly available and I'd release what I have been flying.

[@ShadowFPV]

WOW. :O this is the best Emax Nano Hawk ever driven in the history of drones. :)

[@valden]

Looks like you can already get the spare parts off the bg site. I'd like to try just the bottom plate with my meteor75 build using those 1102 18000kv motors. Looks like this frame isnt proprietary like previous releases. Big plus.

[@MyJam1981]

Since we can't go any smaller EMAX needs to make the Big Black Hawk

[@Kabab]

😅

[@crashflowfpv4841]

Oh my god I’m crying 🤣😂 thank you

[@crashflowfpv4841]

They could try coming out with a 3D flying version “the inverted hawk” 🤣 Or have one made for crashing a lot “the smashing hawk” 😂...sorry I’m done now

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic flying and review, Bob! 😃 But it's a whoop... With a flower shaped frame, but it is. 😬 Anyway, the Nano 3 is really looking good again! I hope they don't have any more problems. Stay safe and flying there! 🖖😊

[@bengmo64]

Have you tried the gemfan props on this yet? I'm curious if the prop bending problem both you and Nick burns noticed would be better with those on it

[@Kabab]

the gemfan 31mm props would be what I'd use if I had them

[@djilly75]

That's the first thought I had. Can I cut the prop guards off

[@erikzirger2131]

Great review! I might have to pick one of these up. Have you experimented with a 4" 1s?

[@erikzirger2131]

Or by that point is the frame to heavy for motors suitable for 1s?

[@Kabab]

larger than 3" 1S works but it starts getting quite prohibitive with the performance. Already 3" is barely working right.

[@sempron1500]

What's with the NANOCOCK OSD name?

[@brendonhunt668]

grear video mr kabob! i was ready to buy in the beginning i was damn thing flys like a 5" c*** hahaha .anyway your always saying to floss so i had a question for ya .what are your thoughts on the waterpik or waterflossers in general? i got one a month ago and love it

[@sixtofive]

Looks like another solid option from Emax. 65mm might be more than those 0802 motors could handle, but I'd bet that would be a killer setup with gemfan 2023 triblades. Those have become my favorite props for 85mm whoops.

[@nikolaystelmakh9721]

спасибо тебе, дорогой Кебаб! я прямо уже собирался купить этот тиник, чтобы носиться в помещениях, но благодаря тебе передумал, потому что как ты сказал - будет проблема с пропеллерами. а я частенько бьюсь в стены, углы и конструкции. Спасибо. придется брать emax tinyhawk III

[@DarrenAllatt]

I guess the question is, does the way they do the bumpers per se, qualify under multi GP regulations as a Whoop? “Props must be fully surrounded by covers or ducts”

[@Kabab]

🤷🏻‍♂️. I'd say it's cheating. This isn't a whoop in any way to me

[@trajanfpv]

Will watch out for your frame upgrade kit, then pick one up, would be a great small park flyer.

[@gmascagni]

You should try the GF 40mm props assuming you cut the prop gaurds off. Very common to put Mobula 6 into a 70mm frame and run the GF 40mm tri or quad blades.

[@Kabab]

Yeah those are what I'd recommend on this.

[@AvallonYo]

Nice, you’re the first KZbinr who reviewed the nanohawk correctly. Everyone else is flying it like a whoop, indoors and complaining about the props and control. It’s 100% an outdoor quad and they should have at least made it a 75mm

[@Kabab]

it really should have had 65mm props but at least it's original

[@MiChiFPV]

What about Trottle Limit for indoor. lol

[@MABdrone]

Well, this week there were several Reviews of this quad, all with the same blablabla, and I knew that when Kabab got his hands on it he would say something really relevant. I was not wrong, thanks for the honest Review!

[@dubzsquaredfpv7171]

Have you tested this flight controller more since this video? I'm curious about this flight controller for a whoop build.

[@Kabab]

I have but it hasn't broken. The quad did however 😅

[@dubzsquaredfpv7171]

@@Kabab There was a deal on the Nanohawk on BG yesterday for $53, but I'm gonna wait on your 1S FC's instead. Also, I hear there's an updated Nanohawk coming soon.

[@reboot110]

Quick 1S question does the ‘c’ rating matter all that much? Been running tattu 600mah 30c I put xt30’s on. Am I sacrificing performance on the ‘c’ factor?

[@Kabab]

The C is more important than anything else. It's also the most untrustable rating however. It's meaningful to compare one companies packs against others they make but not against other companies

[@valden]

So I purchased both bt2.0 and gnb27 connectors to try out over the holiday but have not gotten to it yet. Are bt2.0 really bad or are the gnb27 just that good? Do you think they could work with a 2s lipo as well for a 2s whoop (ie beta75x). Is bt2.0 still worth it on smaller 1s whoops? Ty sir!

[@Kabab]

I personally actually like the BT2 more because it has similar conductivity as the GNB27 but it's smaller. The issue with the BT2 is that it won't be widespread because BetaFPV are only interested in BetaFPV and they don't want anyone else using their stuff. That's why the GNB27 is working out. Ultimately both connectors are poorly designed. If they just asked anyone that actually uses the stuff they could have landed on a much more optimized connector.

[@valden]

​@@Kabab Lol gotcha, cool beans. I guess we will see how the connector wars go! Can these handle 2s in a small form factor? I know I can also do the whole 2 pigtail connector dealio, but that is kinda janky lol. Thanks again.

[@guilherme0stevan]

the ezmax 450mah battery fit in nanohawk? had the same connector?

[@Kabab]

I believe so

[@Max_0578]

The tinyhawk park is back! Great video man! I've heard nick burns saying that you get yaw washout with 450 and up size cells. It would be awesome if you made a bigger frame for that.

[@yohfpv]

I suggest that you try the 56mm LDARC props on your planned experiment with this NanoHawk platform using longer arms with no guards. I reckon they should pair well with this motor size. Those props look like a kind of hybrid between the old 66mm KK props and the old 55mm Hubsan props so the weight and pitch should be just right for power and efficiency.

[@Kabab]

Likely an excellent option

[@licensetodrive9930]

Dead curious about this one, maybe a successor to my Mobula 6? I watched Nick Burns' review and he pointed out how the props seem a little flimsy / unprotected.

[@MariomasterNSMBHD]

Don’t think this can replace the Mobula considering it is rather for inside and this rather works well outside.

[@Acestrex]

I would definitely be cutting off the ducts and trying the 35mm props. I bet they would fit.

[@Kabab]

That might just barely fit

[@Acestrex]

@@Kabab 🤗 I’m always looking for a edge. That’s all I do is build quads all day long and am coming up with new crazy setups. 38 years rc going strong.😉

[@AJ-uf2tp]

can i use my dxe spektrum radio with the nano hawk?

[@Kabab]

If you add the Rx you can

[@MrMaker-mz1kc]

Insane skills

[@Crftbt]

Curious what the chances are of you reviewing the new mobulite 7. :)

[@Kabab]

It's a happy model quad. It'll fly well but will break within a handful of packs usually. Stay away no matter how great reviewers say it is. Build your own. I'm trying not to give free marketing to terrible companies in the industry these days.

[@Reecefpv]

All I can say i really like is those trees man, that's an awesome spot. But I ret do wanna get another whoop that will actually freestyle. The beta75x I ended up getting a while ago was a big mistake. It's was the old vert though. Double board with pins and motors with way too high kv.

[@francvdl]

What do you think is the main diffenerence in performance between bt2.0 and GNB27/ET2.0 ? Do you think ET2.0 can handle 2s?? Great content by the way, now I´m interested in 1s babytooths.

[@Kabab]

The gnb27 will handle low power things. Not much more than powerful 1S. Actually barely powerful 1S. 2S could be less power than high load 1S. The ET2 seems to be a copy of the gnb27. BT2 I'd made by betafpv and they don't want others using it so they make it grossly overpriced and hard to get. The best option out of all these is the gnb27 because of its performance and accessability.

[@reaction7281]

Love this spot

[@DangerDavefpv]

whats the song bob roogi?

[@Kabab]

Link in description

[@ValFPV]

Might get one of these frames for my mob6 once the rainy days stop for outdoor flying, what do you think of that Bob?

[@Kabab]

Not a bad Option

[@jameslaraia]

Came for the craft name. Was not disappointed.

[@KIKI55cro]

dude I was not watchin drone videos for 9mo, and now we have GNB own connectors, wow cool! and did EMAX just do a mobula7copy here?

[@Kabab]

Nothing like the mobuls 7 I think.

[@HolaACchillin]

great video! I picked one up months ago but with summer coming im about to take the NanoHawk out of the box (=

[@Crftbt]

Curious how your experience has been with the gnb27 vs the xt30. :)

[@Kabab]

Xt30 is absolutely more conductive but it's also a bit overkill. The gnb27 is suitable for all things 1S under 3". It just barely suffices for 3" too as far as my tests have gone. I believe I'll be switching the babytooth platform for the gnb27

[@Crftbt]

@@Kabab That's great to hear. The biggest complaint I've heard about XT30 on 1S is the weight. Wonder what the limitation is you were coming across with 3" on gnb27. :)

[@Kabab]

@@Crftbt if you're going all out max throttle all the time, the xt30 is still better

[@Crftbt]

@@Kabab Exactly what I needed to hear! Sounds like I'll be staying with XT30 with my quads then. Wonder if you found the connector getting warm/hot on your 3", or you saw a limitation in the current draw, or something else. :)

[@Kabab]

@@Crftbt I don't think there are enough amps to warm anything really 😅

[@h2o-fpv623]

Great video thank u

[@kreativ_corals]

fuckin with that poor doggo killed me lmao!

[@johnnytech0309]

Can the nanohawk take 2s? Id rather not have to buy a bunch of new 1s batteries

[@Kabab]

I don't think so?

[@testaccount4191]

This is an good review but the real question is when the small wing without control surface video is coming out

[@Kabab]

unfortunately it has really poor authority lol. Still working on it but I believe I'm going back to control surfaces sadly

[@testaccount4191]

@@Kabab :(. Have you tried using supercaps, throw some big 7 inch motors on there, let the battery charge the supercapacitors, so when you need it roll they can spin them up really quickly then the battery takes over once they run dry

[@medrone7097]

I was really hoping that it would be a new generation of whoop but Kabab 👨🏻‍🔬 finally made sense of this thing. It’s a weird Microtooth with ears, not a whoop! Emax, for the V2, how about a stiffer frame that easily swaps out without disassembly!?

[@kkaaii177]

8:37 looked cool going under the dog. Do you have any ideas why the prop guard things are on there?

[@Kabab]

No idea. I guess to look safer

[@SnowbirdSteeze]

What is your preferred whoop?

[@Kabab]

None really. I prefer the 1S 3" open prop babytooth. Whoops just never did it for me

[@djilly75]

Those trees are really cool

[@Temporal_Flux]

I think you've nailed where this one sits. Looks to be pretty useless as a whoop, at least it almost certainly would be in my tiny house. Cutting off the (poorly functioning) prop guards and then just flying it in the yard, might be the way to go. The board is indeed very intriguing for other projects.

[@derrpantograf670]

I thought so too, after removing these covers it could be a 65mm frame micro toothpick :) and without unnecessary plastic elements its weight would drop to about 18-19 grams. It could be interesting!

[@zachcarrizales5038]

The GNB and the Betafpv connector use the exact same pins.

[@Kabab]

I don't believe they do. The BT2 is a bit thicker and the GNB is a bit longer

[@cs-xd9gy]

Bob, Are the motor shafts 1mm? I can't find the size anywhere and wanna make sure emax didn't do something stupid with them as they do their motors.

[@Kabab]

Yep looks like 1mm

[@daveskybiker]

Lol that first clip🤣

[@Pilot_X_indonesia]

At first i think its "woww". But why the props not spinning? Oh its just......

[@high008rise]

Yea the timer and volts weren't moving lol

[@daich]

that first clip worked... i was like dude. how the hang time? i need one.

[@billfromelma]

Bummed that i have ths and th2 both with bad boards. Oh well, at least rdq is going to take a look at the th2 since its still in the warranty period (60days). They fly sooo good when they are working. I hope they can get some more reliability on their boards in the future. $60 for a replacement and seems like a crap shoot at best if it will last. I've seen a lot of others have similar issues. C'mon Emax, I want to love you!😍

[@mattcarlson4521]

Good drone to start on?

[@Kabab]

Yeah totally suitable but smaller things are typically more difficult to fly than a standard 5"

[@julliencurtis1955]

Can someone tell me the stock rates?

[@Kabab]

Default betaflight rates are 1 and 0.7 super rare. Zero expo

[@EdturdEnfart]

You should try out the new mosquito by Newbeedrone and see what ya think!

[@Kabab]

Yeah that looks similar

[@manvsfoodfpv]

Damn bob..the lipo no sag at all...🤟

[@TDPro1]

Whos notice the opening video that prop is not rotate?

[@djilly75]

I heard it has 200mw vtx

[@Kabab]

Maybe. I couldn't verify but it seems to be outputting at least around 100mw in my testing

[@Max_0578]

So, this is something that you can recommend?

[@Kabab]

I think the tinyhawk original is actually the best one of al

[@Max_0578]

@@Kabab yea man, that thing is awesome! Thanks!

[@andrewc3609]

its like a old new new product. They made it look like a whoop but is not. The moment i saw the board for sale in banggood and its from emax i got to have it. Nice product overall. They should release a 75mm, same frame design and all.

[@adamhasan7370]

It’s so cute 🥰

[@Saschabrix]

(min 6:40) Whait... you named the drone NACOCOCK... XD

[@fukale3438]

LMAO, that craft name thoughhhhhhh

[@TRITONFPV]

Well that park looks familiar 😉

[@flyingmonkey8245]

It gets smaller every time huh

[@poolec404]

08:38 - DOGo leaps over quad! (the crowd goes wild!)

[@marc_frank]

why go back to 65mm? it's not much smaller than 3", if it's supposed to look like a toy

[@Kabab]

Because if you're gonna use the stock motors, they're not gonna do well on 3". That's the only reason. I won't be using the stock motors

[@makesomemore_]

Try 48mm props

[@Kabab]

Won't fit unfortunately. Need bigger frame

[@FluidityFPV]

man that first clip i was like wtf? how haha

[@gautamkrishna7421]

The blurred name definitely wasn’t nanocock👀👀😂😂😂

[@kwadkrazy6078]

This this seems like it was designed for indoors, but if its hard to fly indoors and will mostly be flown outdoors, what benefits does this give vs a babytooth? The larger disc area would boost flight performance drastically, as is, its seems like the worst of both worlds. Props to emax for their originality however

[@Kabab]

Right, zero benefit over the babytooth. Once we actually finish the FC board right then it'll be solid and I can actually talk about the babytooth.

[@i_dont_like_you]

Lol that osd name 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sjoer]

If you go lower in kV with 2S 200-250mAh you get four minutes of flight! This is how I fly my 65mm!

[@raffyturc]

nano cook 😄

[@metaldirtnskin]

Putting the drivetrain on an open-prop frame with longer arms... full circle back to the original toothpick concept? Return of the toilethawk? 🤣

[@MANDOXsquid]

those exposed battery wires will make you sweat 😅

[@TheMadmacs]

lookss like emax hit another one outta the ballpark.

[@veek2767]

The thing about this product is... I would rather spend the $ on a Tiny Hawk 2.0. If Emax makes the Nano $60. I might get one but for the price point being the same as a TH2. TH2 all day.

[@EbrFPV]

The name in the OSD 🤣

[@PropagndaX]

Hahaha was nearly someone’s lunch