EMAX Nanohawk + GNB27 | Hands-On Review

[@diggah]

What a legend. Mr Shutterbug is the Bob Ross of the Drone world. Always a pleasure to watch.

[@jonathanstahl4747]

I am interested in you making a video with 40mm props and cutting the guards off the frame. I always love your video content and look forward to your next one!

[@onemanmob6756]

Yeah - me too! I'd like to see how it performs without the prop-guards (reduced weight and improved aerodynamics) with the stock props first and with 40mm ones after to see which step brings what results

[@allennickles3970]

Yeah I second that...sometimes a little modifications discovers new fun toys

[@poolec404]

Third that! Could always try retro-fitting the normal 40mm prop guards from an old whoop by using longer screws?

[@slowentropy4531]

It really well with the guards cut off. It just flys like a toothpick, can do the worlds smallest powerloops and matty flips haha. Broken two carbon frames and a couple motors so far though.

[@nikotttin]

I actually just ordered the frame to do exactly what you described. A nano toothpick 😉

[@TitanFPV]

You can hold down the VTX button while connecting a lipo to unlock the VTX. It comes locked out of the box

[@FilipRadelic]

Yup, wanted to comment this. It's the same on all Emax VTXs. Sometimes reading the manual can help 😅

[@MiniMicroFPV]

I like the flight you did in the backyard! A good show of the quad’s capabilities.

[@Cre8ionz.]

On the BT2.0 connector I made a black line on the minus side of the connector with a permanent marker.. So it's easier to plug it in.. And you can charge it with a PH2.0 charger too (thus they fall out easily)

[@nikotttin]

Did the same but red 😁 I actually also do that on my xt30...

[@Eff917]

In theory camera tilt is adjustable by moving the whole rubber holding it (is should have tabs on the backside where the "handle" Is). Also Eachine sells 250mAh batteries with ET2.0 connectors, which are compatible with GNB27. I bought an Eachine 65pro, which comes with a 6channel charger ph2.0 and et2.0 connectors on it.

[@3DMOFO2020]

19:31 By all means Nate please do it I'm very curious to see that in a future video? Fantastic job on the honest hands on review!

[@MrShutterBug]

Yup, I'll probably give it a try if I can work out a good solution for mounting the camera. A toothpick this size with 40mm props could be pretty sweet!

[@Musiquence]

Good review! I also have this Nanohawk and I think it's a bit too fast for indoors (well, at least in my home and with my flying style). I have 3 batteries and also a loose connector on one of them.

[@supergiantbubbles]

Your flying skills are impressive. Your content is also really high quality. I've enjoyed every video of yours that I've watched. Thanks for taking the considerable effort to share with us all.

[@MrShutterBug]

Thanks. I have fun too. :-)

[@shakeymikesadventures6793]

have mine for 2 months, still on 3 original props, I put a throttle expo at 30% . makes it easier to fly.

[@MadDragon75]

I've been making "armor" for mine and thought about carbon fiber. Sweet!

[@mattlee78]

I've experienced the same loose connector issue with GNB27. Out of 16 batteries I've bought so far (4x 650mah and 12x 450mah), I've seen 2 connectors on the batteries that had that same problem. I also noticed that these two connectors felt more loose when connecting/disconnecting to the male connector on the drone/charger. My solution was to use tweezers to very, very slightly bend the male connector pins outwards, to make the connection tighter. I haven't had a problem since. Also, after each time connecting the batteries to the drone, I always wiggle the battery wires around to make sure it's secure and power doesn't cut out. Perhaps I shouldn't have to do all this but the connector is so good on voltage sag for my Babytooth.

[@quaneu9216]

Planning to migrate all my 1s lipo from ph2.0 to gnb27, how is your experience afterward?

[@tonhabraken9339]

I’ve had a similar issue with the gnb27 connector... Also.. I think the pigtail on the quad is too short also.. Using 450’s isn’t fun.. I really like the Nanohawk for zipping around parking garages..

[@phillipneyman9338]

superb review... and please mod the NH and see how far it can be pushed.... excellent

[@rickdeckard7549]

VTX is locked outta the box...dumb but once you unlock it...instructions were included...it’s fully functioning

[@technoxtreme178]

Emax needs to change the hardness grade of the plastic on the ducts...they are too soft as is. If they make that change (or someone makes an after-market upgrade) then this will be a worthy Tinywhoop.

[@nikotttin]

Don't think it really matters, because the 3-bladed 31mm GF was also bent....

[@joelpearson8623]

I used the fc in my toothpick and used the GnB 27 👍👍👍👍

[@shakeymikesadventures6793]

I just experienced the same issue with the vtx, shut right down on me, till i got it back to same r4. i've had mine for 3 weeks still running same props that was installed on it, might be cause i'm not pushing it yet. 2 sets of rates, profile one is for beginners, 2 is sharper and faster rates.

[@shakeymikesadventures6793]

I also had to put some epoxy on cam mount to stop so much jellowvision.

[@FilipRadelic]

This was the first drone I ever got a review unit of and it was so underwhelming I just didn't want to bother. Flew it twice (once outside and once inside through a little track I set up) and put it back in the box and it's been sitting there for 2 months 😄 Pretty sure my battery had a loose connection too as on third charge it almost instantly went to land now and just had almost no power at all, I thought I forgot to charge it at the time. I agree ducts are completely useless, feels like you can't bump anything without them bending into your props and stopping them dead so might as well just cut them off to save weight. I've ordered a spare frame to try cutting this one but it never arrived from China... Flew pretty nice in acro though, but I haven't flown it enough to claim it's a lot better than Meter65/Mobula6 at that. So yeah I guess if you have other whoops and toothpicks but want something even smaller to acro with, this might be the one, otherwise... heck no 🙂 So yeah, good and honest review as expected 👍👍

[@flipfpv]

Like TitanFPV said, the VTX has to be unlocked. Also, you have to disable smart audio for the button to work.

[@MrShutterBug]

Yeah, that's good info. It would be nice if they said something about that on the product page or in the package.

[@flipfpv]

@@MrShutterBug Can't really blame you there, Nate. Emax has some of the best manuals for their quads but they do make them really hard to find. They should put a link on the product page or something, but they don't. You have to go to their site and scroll to the bottom and look for Information >> Manuals and Knowledge Base and then look up the model.

[@dududu7694]

GNB27 is a bit heavier than BT2.0 I'll keep using BT2.0..

[@slowentropy4531]

It's great fun outside, pushing it really hard ive broken two carbon frames already. Both time where next to the motor it folded the arm. Its great but lacks durability, worth it for me as it flys like a lil 5inch in the front yard. Powerloops, matty flips its so capable.

[@MrShutterBug]

Do you think the arm provides enough protection for the motor, or does the motor sometimes take the impact? They could break pretty easily too if they were hit directly. I'm considering making some tiny TPU extensions for the arms so that an impact on the tip flexes the TPU some before hitting the motor or the frame. Not a prop guard, but just kind of a springy buffer. Do you think it would help?

[@slowentropy4531]

@@MrShutterBug arm provides no protection. But the thing that breaks is when the motor gets hit it has alot of leverage on that little arm. It breaks right at the end of arm at motor mount every time. Tbh It doesn't bother me as it has to be a big crash that would kill a mob6 or meteor frame or motor anyways. The frame is $5.50 and takes about 10mins to change and you don't have to solder or disconnect anything. All worth it to be able to do the world smallest power loops and matty flips in the front garden.

[@nikotttin]

Hi Mr. Shutterbug, This was a very thorough review. Many thanks for the hard work! I was wondering whether by cutting the cards off you wouldn't actually save your props? With the guards, the prop is slowed and twisted. Without you simply block the motor... I also want to cast my vote on top of the others, a 40mm nano toothpick could definitely be a fun project. I actually just bought the carbon frame for that exactly 😉

[@MrShutterBug]

The guards don't protect the props as well as a typical whoop frame, but they do protect the props some. Thus, I would expect to have even more broken props if the guards were removed. But I would also expect it to fly better. So there are trade-offs. If I make a 40mm version, I will probably use 2-blade props like I did with the 75mm ultralight whoop. 2-blade props are more durable because they can rotate out of the way.

[@aaron6516]

Man that was some epic flying consider me subbed... thanks man!!! Nice review.

[@jermadjesty]

I've had the same issue with the gnb27 connector on about 1/6 of the batteries I've bought

[@MrShutterBug]

Yikes!

[@jhughes2286]

Are you going to review the Happymodel Moblite 6 and 7?

[@MrShutterBug]

The Moblite7 was obviously inspired by my 16.8g 75mm whoop. They sent me one but I have not had time to fly it yet. Too many projects. Too little time.

[@jhughes2286]

@@MrShutterBug Yes it was ripped from you in my opinion, it would be so cool if they had reached out to you and did a collaboration. They're not even as light as yours so I can see why your not really interested but a review from the most qualified person in the world, that would help a lot of people and beginners. Plus I'm sure everyone would love to know what you think about them.

[@BornIIfly]

Great review 👍 especially where you said, „It’s a fun way in the evening to relax.“ Same here! As for the broken props, yeh it’s frustrating & costs 🤦🏻‍♂️ The durability? Would the iFlight A65 do better? I just ordered one for my b-day today so I could rip around my small apartment. Would you know if I could put JazzMaverick on it? Take care & happy fly’n 🤓😉😘

[@MrShutterBug]

I haven't tried that one, but yes, you should be able to put JazzMaverick on any ESCs that support BLHeli_S (which is pretty much all brushless whoops)

[@BornIIfly]

@@MrShutterBug Hi I received the A65 yesterday, my xm+ died on me but still had a xm left, works just as good. The A65 is really fun & cute! Flown through gaps I didn’t try with the HX100 but it was really funny to fly. Will have a look & try to flash the JazzMaverick on it today, many thnx. Hopefully will get the chance to race against you, you’ll be the man to beat! 😉 (seeing your racing skills & footage) Have fun & take care 🤓😉😘

[@BornIIfly]

@@MrShutterBug hi found out the new batch has already JazzMaverick flashed. Having so much fun, didn’t imagine. Take care 🤓😉😘

[@Dangeresque14]

Do you have to "unlock" the vtx like the older tinyhawks to get race band?

[@MrShutterBug]

Good question. I don't know. I didn't see any information about that on the product page. I just know that selecting raceband in the OSD menu is bad because you will lose video with no way to get it back without a computer.

[@Dangeresque14]

@@MrShutterBug That's a pretty terrible "feature" considering it is marketed to beginners! Great review by the way!

[@Temporal_Flux]

Yes, you have to unlock the VTx. Some channels are not legal in many countries, so they have chosen to lock them out, to avoid legal problems (not that many other companies care about that). The unlocking procedure is clearly stated in the manual. It also clearly warns you about what will happen if you select a prohibited channel before unlocking it.

[@kxdmotovlog6898]

flywoo nano baby 1S firefly have this speed?? is fast?

[@nistax2880]

Great vid man , have considered doing a shark byte review?

[@MrShutterBug]

I don't have the Shark Byte system yet, but yeah, I'll probably buy it before too long.

[@cristianosaturni]

Thank you! Very nice review. And me too I am curious to fly it without prop guards outside. What is the center to center distance between the motor mounting holes? I am also pretty interested in a comparison between xt30 and gnb27 connectors on this or on a larger toothpick. P.S. Emacs, nano, awk...they could add vim for a full gnu family...;)

[@MrShutterBug]

Thanks! The wheelbase is 65mm just like a whoop. I don't have the equipment to test the XT30 vs GNB27 properly, but I would not expect any difference in performance on a drone like this. There just isn't that much current flowing. Now, on something like a 3" Babytooth, there might be more of a difference to justify the weight of an XT30.

[@cristianosaturni]

@@MrShutterBug thanks! And what is the distance between the two screws fixing a motor to the frame?

[@MrShutterBug]

@@cristianosaturni looks like 6mm, but that may not be 100% exact

[@cristianosaturni]

Thank you,@@MrShutterBug. So the most used motors with 4 mounting holes (with diagonal of 9mm) cannot be used. That is a pity. Good to know! Thank you very much

[@MrShutterBug]

​@@cristianosaturni I took a more careful measurement. The Nanohawk motor screws are 6.5mm apart. I'm converting mine to a toothpick with 40mm props and I already designed some tiny TPU bumpers that will stick out just past the motor so it doesn't always have to take the impact. Should be interesting. ;-)

[@stylesuxx]

I was super disappointed with this one. As soon as you crash, it is basically over, swap the props and try again. Outside I got extrem jello. I taped the cam down which made it slightly better - but still no fun at all for me. The soft hoops makes it impossible for me to fly indoors, the props pop off all the time. I like that EMAX tried to do something different, but nah - this one is not for me at all. I like the FC/VTX combo though.

[@noramas.]

Kevin from Emuflight recently released Emu 0.3.3 for F3 boards. Can I use more/less the same PID-s settings and DAS configuration from attached dump file on F3 based 65mm BRUSHED whoop?

[@MrShutterBug]

Cool. If you run Emu you can use the DAS feature, but you probably don't want to use my PIDs because a brushed whoop is pretty different. I mean, you're welcome to try, but you might get better results with the default Emu tune or a tune designed for brushed drones. Patrick Clarke from Project Mockingbird flies some brushed whoops. He probably has a good tune for them. Cheers!

[@karolvikt]

Maybe someone knows if there is a channel for beepers?

[@onclefly8450]

Hi, a whoop broke props is not good frame, you think is better your build ?

[@MrShutterBug]

Whoops can break props sometimes, especially if you fly outside or hit concrete, but they shouldn't be breaking all the time. This video shows the other drone that I mentioned. It is much more durable. No broken props yet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJnWp4yOmpKbkNE

[@onclefly8450]

@@MrShutterBug Yes I know and see this video great 👍😀

[@BatanShorts]

Can u review one of the eachine tyros?

[@MrShutterBug]

I don't have that one.

[@valden]

Hey there Nate! Have you ever checked out the microheli mobula 6 conversion frame? It's ductless and It's pretty fun.. Not perfect but I'm curious how it compares. Plus side you can use your own parts and not have to buy into the proprietary stuff the nanohawk uses.

[@MrShutterBug]

Sounds cool, but no I have not tried it.

[@rudycorona6964]

How do you do that go so fast

[@MrShutterBug]

Practice. Practice. :-)

[@high008rise]

Hopefully gnb last over betafpv.

[@marksherman630]

Very complete review. Thanks, I'll avoid this one.

[@kodak_jack]

Imagine! A US vendor that eliminates the 3 MONTH wait for Chinese RC stuff! A BIG plus right there!!

[@MrShutterBug]

There are several great retailers in the US. The ones I order from most often are getfpv, Pyrodrone, and Race Day Quads.

[@jaylander8988]

Mine is jello city after a few crashes...changed props and its still crap...anyone got a good tune?

[@MrShutterBug]

Some people have said that jello can come from a loose camera. I have not had that problem, but you might want to check it. As for the tune, I'm using the Project Mockingbird Dual-Axis Steering tune for Emuflight. There's a video linked in the description text with more info. Cheers!

[@jaylander8988]

@@MrShutterBug thanks for the tip...I will check it out 🤙

[@twisty8005]

Can u also fly like this with a whoop?

[@MrShutterBug]

Yes and no. I have other whoops that can fly as fast or faster on an indoor race track. There is a link in the video description for a video where I showed Emuflight Dual-Axis Steering. That is an example. However, I do think the Nanohawk handles better than a typical whoop at higher speed when doing outdoor freestyle.

[@twisty8005]

@@MrShutterBug thanks, what flight mode did you use?

[@aerialcombat]

Is it 'loud'?

[@MrShutterBug]

It makes about the same noise as any 1S whoop.

[@Faith_Family_Firearms_Freedom]

Very informative. Thank you 😎👍

[@keithmccormick1272]

Throw away the Emax props . Put some 3 bladed Mobula 6 props on it , they work great and have not had to change one in 3 months since I got this quad . It is my fav right now . Love your vids :)

[@JEMTAC]

great , again.

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[@smperkins410]

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[@BatanShorts]

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