Is it any good, the BSA 650 Gold Star

[@johnimmins7302]

Very enjoyable watch. Your visit to Bill Lomas's dream motorcycle shop had my mouth watering. The problems you highlighted with your BSA are one's I have heard of from other riders of this bike. You have certainly added your touch to your bike and made it unique. I have viewed several of your other videos and look forward to more. All the best. 😊👍🏍

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks for the lovely feedback. It changes regularly at bill Lomas, so now, I pop up about every month just to see what new stock is in. I love my BSA. Now it looks like it does, it is a shame there are a few with this problem, but, to be fair, BSA are trying to address it quickly. I've been told, if this 3rd flash doesn't work, they have a second fueling map to make it richer fueling 👍

[@paulsilson2148]

Nice old 70 machines , reminds me of the good motorcycling days. Love your dog , the star.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, it definitely brings back memories, I had that exact version of the green Kawasaki z650 in 1979. I was nearly tempted to buy it to relive my youth 😁🥴

[@paulsilson2148]

@awesomeappleby5923 go ahead treat yourself, she's a beauty. I had a Suzuki x7 250 cc brand new in 1977 loved that bike.

[@paulsilson2148]

@@awesomeappleby5923 I just subscribed look forward to more motorcycle memories

[@awesomeappleby5923]

​@@paulsilson2148Those x7's were quick, I had a Kawasaki s1 250 in the seventies and it was the fastest 250 around in my area, until my mate got a brand new X7 and started leaving me in his dust 😢.👍

[@awesomeappleby5923]

​@@paulsilson2148thanks 👍

[@StephenClarke-l4s]

Awesome. Thanks for your honesty. Keep it real.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, I can't ever change from being me, real 👍😁

[@andrewmarsh6091]

Bill Lomas is an Aladdin's cave of nostalgia right enough! They do Welsh rarebit on toast too. I like what you've done to your bike mate 👍

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Yes, it's magical in that shop, like going back in time. Thanks for the bike comments, I just need rear sets now.👍

[@darenpalmer1703]

I really enjoyed your video. Thanks. A great, honest assessment of your bike, which looks awesome, and some difficulties, but also a tour of Bill Lomas’s shop, and describing the KZbin experience. I’m going to pop up to that shop tomorrow now to have a look. I hope you carry on the videos and even keep your down-to-earth approach. Bit concerned the phone might fall off with the sellotape. All the best.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, bill Lomas stock changes almost every day, . So I pop up about every month to see what's new. Might treat myself to a real go pro for Christmas, but don't want to get too professional 😂👍

[@kennethheldreich6604]

I had the same problem with my interceptor when I first got it, had it flashed and it was still happening, I changed the relays which hitchcocks ones and it's been fine, good look, it's certainly a great looking bike, Bill lomas shop is an amazing place 👍🇬🇧🙂🏍

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, BSA has said they have a Richer fuel map on the ECU if my bike won't fix to this 3rd flash🤞 👍

[@charlesparks7267]

had my royal enfield 3 years no problems

[@awesomeappleby5923]

That's great news, hopefully, this latest map gives me a bit of happiness now 🙏🤞👍

[@Between-Bikes]

Well worth your perseverance, final angle footage seemed perfect. Thumbs up.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, think a decent camera and microphone is required for Christmas 👍

[@jerrywines382]

I'll definitely have to visit Bill Lomas next time I'm over that way. What a fantastic collection of bikes! The mods you've made to your bike look great, a proper old school cafe racer. The 7k rpm limiter is probably more to do with prolonging engine life rather than limiting power. This engine lives on its torque anyway, and the maximum 55nM is produced at 4k rpm, so I mainly ride that wave between 3k and 5k rpm. It would probably need some lightened internals to spin up much beyond 7k rpm, but if you could retain the torque and increase hp then you'd have the best of both worlds. I do love getting over 70mpg though. It's a massive novelty when compared to 35mpg from my zx12r.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, I use to have a zx-12r, and a 10r, both great bikes, That's probably why I'm searching for more power,. I was hoping BSA would bring out a larger engined bike at this year's show, but sadly not. So still tempted to get the z900rs now 🫣👍

[@Lee-70ish]

Each to their own as they say I'm glad you are enjoying your bike. I picked a Royal Enfield as I wanted an air-cooled engine. Had it for two years now with zero problems.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Enfields are great, I love my interceptors, I wanted to see what this BSA is about. Glad to hear you're having stress free riding 👍 Hopefully, BSA has said they have a richer fueling map on the ECU if this last flash dont work, otherwise, I might be back to Enfields 🤞👍

[@LumpyCarbs]

That took me 3 coffees of watching time but worth every minute! Thanks for the shout out and sorry to have to tell you only teasers were made about several new models in next few years. They won’t muck around with mapping for extra power as even harder emission controls for next year mean extra lambda sensors on bikes. Cutouts are supposed to be fixed with the latest rideability map. I recon your cut outs are fuel starvation, you do like to rev😊 and sudden throttle cutoff will (on lean burn engines) starve it of fuel. A FuelX fitted might be what you need. Keep going with the vids👍

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Lol, it was a bit of a feature film, just trying to get my watch hours up, thanks for helping 👍

[@zedcharlie]

I gave up with mine cutting out. 2 remaps . Still the same. Always going down the box. Final straw was going into a roundabout, going down box, and yes I do blip throttle. Got room so went for it, engine stopped and as you are not expecting to brake I ended up clutch in fumbling to get it started coasting into roundabout. Not good. Dealer told me they can't find anything. Then don't bring it here if you are trading it!!!!! Final straw. Too lean set up I reckon

[@LordTarbicus9497]

It was great , even better there was an interval where a woman came into my lounge selling ice cream 😊

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Yes, it's not good, BSA has said there is a richer map on the ECU if this current fix doesn't work 🤞👍​@@zedcharlie

[@bobbyblueace]

That was a good laugh with some great bikes and info thrown in too. Brilliant. 😁

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, I try to add a bit of humour, glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@Merthyr-Dave]

Nice looking bike. It's a shame it keeps cutting out. I hope you can get it sorted. Lovely dog.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Think this 3rd map is working a lot better, but if not, BSA has said the ECU has a richer map as a last resort 🤞👍

[@michaelfirth1075]

What a fantastic shop, if I had the money I’d be buying at least a dozen of those beautiful bikes. Fantastic shop. Oh by the way fantastic video, thank you.😊

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, I had to hold on to my wallet, it helps I've got no Room anyway in my shed 😁🤞

[@aladinfox4098]

Love the camera, i thought i was the only one who had done that with my phone! My bike fell off stand couple of weeks ago as you described ,nothing worse than the sound of crashing metal, would'nt have happened if i'd left it in gear . You are right about RE , how many bikes can they churn out with the same engine?, anyway didnt stop me owning one though 😄 and at least the engine is a good engine. Hope you get to the bottom of the problem you're having with your BSA , I would love to own one myself , I wonder why Rotax dont just produce their own 650 under their own name, i think they'd sell like hot cakes. Cheers then, happy riding.👍

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Yes, Enfield are excellent bikes, I've had 2 interceptors and loved them. just tempted to see what this BSA was about and was pleasantly surprised until the cut outs. But BSA have said it's the lean fueling to pass the euro 5 and they have a richer map as last resort for me🤞👍

[@rustyrims05]

The Z 750 twin were cheap as chips until quite recently. I used to buy them for around £300-£400. I wanted a sidecar to hitch to one of them so a friend found me one in Worksop. The seller insisted that I took an unattached Z750 if I wanted the sidecar. I couldn’t get my breath! I started third kick and the resulting outfit was superb.😊

[@awesomeappleby5923]

I nearly purchased a z750 in the seventies, but when I saw the z650 I couldn't resist buying that instead 👍

[@ianhalliwell8604]

In all the year's I've been riding and in all the different bikes I've bought I've never had one that needed 3 batteries in a year. I must admit I've sold my GoldStar and gone back to Japanese so no-one worries regarding breakdowns for me.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

BSA blamed the batteries, but my dealer put a different make for the second battery and it still fried. So fingers crossed, this last one lasts forever 🤞👍

[@ChrisMason-q4w]

I liked your video thank you,have you ever been pulled with that old style plate?

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, fingers crossed, been ok with plate on for over a year up to now, so long as it's not too small or you've changed any of the letters to look different and it can easily be read at distance for the cameras, should keep most police happy. well, that's what I'm going on 😁🤞👍

[@kammelryder]

Cracking video. Keeping it real mate. 👍(subbed)

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks for your kind feedback, I definitely can't change, so it should always be real. and 👍 to subscribing.

[@17405pop]

I think it's limited to 7000 to make it A2 legal, probably electronically. There must be a way to reprogram. Although, with a motor as under stressed but torquey as this, I think all the fun would be between 0 - 7k rpm. My guess is it'd be a bit flat further north in the rev range after the 7k mark. Might get very 'vibey' as well!😂 Looks and sounds the part though.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, think you might be right, it does get vibey around 7000 now, probably, my feet would shake of the foot pegs if it had more revs 😆👍

[@splodge57]

It's a big single, they're not supposed to rev. My 1960 BSA 650 twin would not be happy revving to 7K.😢

[@17405pop]

@@splodge57 My 650 Suzuki xf is happy to pull up 'n over 8k rpm. It isn't worth the bother (or worry) though. All the serious whoosh is provided from 4000 - 6000 rpm. Nowt better than the lovely dollops of torquey power you can get from a good big single.

[@TAYM]

Heaven 😍

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Definitely, I had to control my wallet, it's very tempting.👍

[@TheKRU251]

The reason for the cutouts ? It'll be that Devils Number in the reg plate !!!! Seriously though, the cutouts would drive me mad plus be a worrying thing too. Had a BMW cut out once on a roundabout. Was not popular with the car drivers and I didn't feel too 'fit' either !!!!

[@awesomeappleby5923]

That's funny about the plate 🤣. I've actually done that on a roundabout, it is a little hair raising. Hopefully, if this latest map doesn't work, BSA said there is a richer map on it so that should definitely work. Apparently, it's all about the lean mapping for Euro 5 regs.

[@TheKRU251]

@@awesomeappleby5923 Makes sense. I bought a new RE Interceptor in November '20 to avoid the leaner set-up for 2021 yr with the new Euro 5 stuff. The later RE's could have stalling issues at traffic lights/junctions. If they did stall then the dealers installed a 'new' map, (the pre 2021 Euro 4 mapping I found out). They worked fine then apparently with no issues !

[@awesomeappleby5923]

​@@TheKRU251oh ok, I suppose that's what BSA is saying now, if this 3rd flash doesn't work they have a richer setting on the ECU, so a bit like Enfield did I suppose 👍

[@mred7030]

great vid , have you had any hassle about you rear number plate , fancy it myself .

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Fingers crossed, no trouble with the plate in over a year. And I must have been past loads of number plate camera readers Maybe because it's clear to read by cameras and police, not too small I suppose. Or they actually think iss an old bike, Only time will tell.🤞👍

[@PhilWinter-r8z]

What are the handlebars you have fitted to your Gold Star. They look pretty good. Not too much of a stretch?

[@davidmacgregor5193]

They look like "Ace Bars" to me.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Thanks, the bars were about £40 off eBay. Not as low as clip ones, and I like the fact I can add the fake choke levers on them. I put ad picture advert at the end of my other video which shows me fitting them. You've just got to make sure they have quite a deep curve to get your clocks in-between 👍

[@PhilWinter-r8z]

I saw the ad but it had gone before I could take the details down.

[@TheBritishMotorcyclingGroup]

Have you connected the choke lever to anything at the other end to give it an authentic feel?

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Not connected to anything, just for show. However, some have connected the seat release to one. But, if you got small grand children that like to play with your bike, then , that seat can keep popping open 😆👍

[@TheBritishMotorcyclingGroup]

@@awesomeappleby5923 Brilliant it looks great mate. my four grandkids are all under 6 so would love that.

[@splodge57]

I thought the cutting out may have been due to you playing about with the advance and retard lever.

[@zedcharlie]

You know mine same. 2nd re map. OK for around 200 Mile then it started again.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

That's sad, I'm on the latest 3rd map, and for a while now, no cut outs, so fingers crossed. BSA have said if this doesn't work, they have a second programme on the ECU for richer fueling that should definitely fix it.🤞

[@zedcharlie]

@awesomeappleby5923 Mine traded in. New dealer not interested. Final nail. Riding my 1960 a7. That never cuts out. Leaks oil though 😄

[@awesomeappleby5923]

😁👍

[@johnstonstewart9683]

Pity so many of those bikes have American spec high bars, in the 1970s when I was in my twenties UK spec bikes had flatter bars.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

Yes, I thought the bars looked high on some, I had a z650 in the seventies and almost sure the bars weren't that high.

[@Paul-fv4no]

Aaay yupp Stu baby.

[@awesomeappleby5923]

👍

[@marksimpson5218]

The neighbours might not be happy, so you then hit the Rev limiter to check it’s up to temp.😂😂

[@awesomeappleby5923]

🤣 never looked at it like that 🤣👍

[@damiantuttle1348]

Wouldn't matter if you did want rid of it...nobody wants um.😂😂😂

[@awesomeappleby5923]

I know, I'd get more for scrap 😆👍

[@splodge57]

The bike looks great, I like the mods, but a shame it cuts out. I couldn't put up with that. I see your dog looks like the owner. I have a black and silver Miniature Schnauzer, lovely dogs, wonderful characters.😊

[@awesomeappleby5923]

I know, I think I've been very patient, I don't know why, but this bike seems hard to part with. BSA has said the ECU has a richer fueling map if this last flash doesn't work. You right about schnauzers, great dogs, they have loads of adorable character.