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[@NBundyElectrical]

www.youtube.com/@JRCElectrical jacks channel, lets help him out please

[@JRCElectrical]

❤ thanks Nick legend

[@connordines667]

Great video nick! Spacing it off wall is fine we normally use uni strut and zebs though not copper pipe

[@maxking3]

Man, I would love to invite you to the „Light & Building“ Show in Frankfurt in March. The biggest exhibition for electrics & building technology in Europe. You‘d be absolutely drooling over some of the clever stuff on display there. If you think this 3-phase box is „top notch“, you‘d be surprised what ABB, Hager, Schneider & Siemens are showing there. And a „trip report“ would probably a nice addition to this channel.

[@peterprice8393]

Yes spacing off is fine Nick , we normally use some 25 mm steel conduit couplers and use 100mm thunder bolts or screws . Keep the great vlog coming Nick best wishes for the new year 🎉

[@steveday6104]

Nice job Nick, looking forward to trying one of these boards. Personally we would only bring the tails in through the bottom of the board so they are not tacking up space around the cpc & N terminals.

[@Parry_Electrical]

You need the 10k RCBOs,the neutral fly leads are twice as long

[@garymcleanuk]

We had an extention 2 years ago and I got the exact same Shelly devices installed.. Love them. Have other smaller ones in backboxs and in the ceilings for other lights.. Have alexa and light switches to controll them along with Home Assistant. One thing to note on the Shelly (my revsion anyway) its 1 common live on an internal busbar so dont think about having different supplys on the Live side.

[@lordgeeker1138]

My first comment after watching a ton of your videos... thank you, I've learnt so much. I'm aiming to wire up my own garage (working with a sparky first and during to advise properly. Anyway, would love a video on the connecting in the Shelly 4Pro (or any of the Pro) series - as I'd like to incorporate this into my system for automation and power monitoring.

[@darrencoyle3290]

A nice tidy installation , nice looking board.. Happy new year Nick.

[@richieh92]

Happy New Year Nick, wishing you all the best for 2024!

[@persona250]

Hi Nick my vehicle for the last 18months is a Toyota proace 75kwh battery (same as vivaro etc) 200mile specced range . It will do 160 miles in winter . Don't buy cheap for the charger , you need one that is never going to fail , a zappi at minimum spec ..

[@philphil3707]

Great video Nick....Can't believe you forgot to spray-paint the wall behind the new board though!....doh! 🤦 😂

[@user-zm4rk9zn8w]

When installing 3ph DBs I would always put some metal trunking top and bottom - ideally 3" min, but 2" is fine (depending on no. of ccts). Your configuration at your workshop would allow you to terminate all your armoureds into top trunking and provide a place to lose any slack and keep the board tidy. The lower trunking allows the incomer to be made off (if it's an armoured) or in your case to run your supply cables. and again provides an area to make it easier to install the cables - it also stops the situation where you run the supply cables around the interior of the board......much neater and tidier

[@cocoino2307]

6 inch trunking as a standard, 4 inch minimum its what I use, the bigger the better

[@ChristmasCrustacean1]

spare screws is a nice touch, they should do the same for their single phase boards.

[@richrowley8355]

Nice one Nick. My OCD wanted to see the wall painted behind of course....

[@wetwellies2949]

Fitted the exact same board today! Struggled to get the lid off as well, blanks are a complete pain in the arse keep falling off, try putting a swa gland in the top with the stupid rolled top (ok if you want to strip the top plate off but then you are limited to how high you can get the board as you have to screw the plate back on). 1 mcb didn’t work from new and recently 3 of their AFDDs have packed up within a year. Ok board but not 100% ok yet.

[@badrobert71]

Happy Christmas Nick and family. Nollaig shona duit agus do clann.

[@redcrow2006]

I’ve just installed 2 of those Shelly 4pm’s and so far. Working great. Ordered new bulbs because i found out how much power some of them were taking 🤣 doubt i’ll save any money with what it cost. Still it’s my little project.

[@675matty]

gets done alot in commercial boards being mounted off the wall etc, normally using unistrut behind to mount the board.

[@whatthedeuse]

I always strut boards off the wall and over shoot the strut by the width of the trunking that I use to frame the DB. If you put trunking on the top and maybe went twice the width of the board and round the sides it gives you more real estate to gland things off, as now you’ve used a lot of the top for your handful of circuits

[@ollieb7394]

Header trunking is the one especially on a DB like this with such a slim profile.

[@carlmarquardt994]

Why is it neccasssy at all to strut the DB off the wall?

[@whatthedeuse]

@@carlmarquardt994 keeps the board off surfaces that may become wet or damp and for cleaning in some instances also when working in intakes it can make it easier marrying up to existing containment

[@carlmarquardt994]

@@whatthedeuse yep cheers..just seen the clip he did it because of the wooden board and side mounted stuff gland

[@danbrown5452]

TPN boards commonly mounted on unistrut, basically the same principle here so no issues

[@joshfletcher5341]

Nice work, only ever used Merlin/ Schneider boards. They are premium but feel far superior. No earth from the bolt to the earth bars? Enjoy your vids.

[@davideyres955]

Defo go with Shelly. Pretty much quality kit. Do a video on how you set it up as I recon it needs mcb after the device as I wouldn’t want to rely on its overload ability. If I remember correctly they can take 40amp in so supply breaker at 32? Be good to have the opinion of a qualified sparky. On the app side it’s good and it also integrates with things like home assistant if you want a dashboard and more options on automation and the like. The nice thing about the Shelly device you showed was it has Ethernet hard wired option if you have a metal box and that interferes with the wifi signal. I’m not overly comfortable with a Ethernet cable floating around near 240volts though.

[@lordgeeker1138]

The Shelly 4Pro can take 40A max. But 16A per channel.

[@videoting1]

The few 3 phase boards I’ve done on you heat shrink the line colours. Not a criticism just wondered if you were going to do that as well? Helps identify at both ends I found

[@JH-zh4zw]

Hi Nick, you've made a potentially serious oversight, if you look at how that isolator got wired, you may be able to see that in the board it's infact back to front. Only saviour for you would be the DP isolator in the board otherwise you could've had a significant danger. I'd also recommend isolating the outgoing ways before closing a isolator for the entire board like that, there was a subtle arcing and this can damage the isolators which aren't necessarily designed to take a full whack.

[@gg-ct3fo]

It's not the neutral just goes on the left of the 1st phase rather than right of the 3rd. Phase 1 should always be left, 2 and 3 can go in either middle or right depending on rotation needed.

[@woody8942]

Hi nick happy Xmas and happy new year to you all buddy, I am catching up to all your videos as going through my treatment getting there mate could come out and show how a old boy electrician did them cable runs wiring in looms and all the rest if you fancy to give us a day love to you all and best wishes nick. Love woody x

[@markmcallister2421]

Great video, have you got a link to the gloves you are wearing! 🙌🏽

[@EdwardBretherton]

Happy new year Nick , sorry it's a bit late, another great video though , you need another Adam or an Eve .

[@justme5384]

Shelly is the way to go, they work either with their own cloud or you can use them in your own wifi with home assistant

[@tobysherring1369]

Would steel bushing couplers be easier than cutting out four pieces of copper for spacers? I guess you have plenty of couplers in stock.

[@JensenPGATourDriven]

Great content, Nick & educational , all the best 2024 ⚡️👊

[@tschubb1992]

If you are going to be chopping and changing it, I would add some galv trunking.

[@HeathenGeek]

FIrst! while your doing this board and that, maybe you'd quite like to do some bits and pieces with the tray too? "100mm Medium Duty Cable Tray Flat Tees (MDT100FT)" just in case you feel the need to make it look awesome, with like, gussets and stuff 🙄 Anywhoo, the reason I started typing. . . 3P boards can have a lot of stuff in them. . . on them,, and at the side of them, all held by those 4 fixings. Not moaning or owt, BUT Unistrut is a good way to fix a bigger board to a wall if you need to. . . You can put lots of fixings in it, and the strut acts as a stand off. Another good thing about using that method is you can drill a couple of like 40mm? maybe 76mm holes in the back of the board, put that decent grommet strip around them and pass all the cables down the back. Can look neater than stuffing glands and saves quite a bit of time too 🙂 I really need to do instagram properly instead of typing this stuff. Have fun, say hello to Adams Mum from us all 😁😂😂

[@ForTheBirbs]

Cheers Sir Nick!

[@Cablesmith]

I assume the 10ka rcbos for the 3phase boards have longer neutral fly leads, but I’ve not used fusebox 3phase so just guessing. hope you’ve had a good Christmas matey 🎅🏻

[@Cablesmith]

I’m also just assuming those are normal 6ka rcbos you had lying around tho, interested to know tho.

[@NBundyElectrical]

and you mate, and yeah they are@@Cablesmith

[@user-super-user]

schneider have had tpn boards with a neutral busbar for over 3 years im suprised more brands havent done it yet this gets rid of the need for flyleads

[@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you]

Could be a few reasons from patents down to cost. Patents would be an obvious reason why other brands can't and is probably most likely. A harder one might just be the cost of doing so pushes a product out of the targeted price range. It's not unusual for a product manufacturer to have a pre-determined manufacturing and markup at the very early design phase as they plan to target their 'market'. Products then have to be designed to fit to that (with everything from included accessories, metal guage, number of screws, manufacturing techniques etc up for grabs to hit that target).

[@jasonbryant6914]

Patents is the reason, Will from Verso said other brands can't get anywhere near it for legal reasons

[@sergiofernandez3725]

Jack at JRC is a top bloke. RUN DA TING

[@roberthardy2013]

Which model is your Brother printer ? Looking at getting one soon.

[@roberthardy2013]

Rubber round door stops are great spacers.

[@WilliamMulligan]

Nice looking board

[@imark7777777]

17:45 and that is why it's so dangerous that you must have the DNO pole your fuse!

[@andysimcox1872]

Just fitted the same board in a local school. It’s ok. But Eaton and Hager better although at a price. As said before you should fit the 10K RCBO as they have a longer fly lead. I found the blanks a pain as they do not lock in place. That to me is a design issue they should fix. I liked the locking middle tab & the way the front cover fits on. I personally would like the board to have a little more room. If you were installing a bunch of SWA cables that would be tight. Ok if you’re on a budget!

[@shaunlewis286]

Are you allowed to extend the fly leads ie crimps or is that a deffo nono? Never going to be doing it but just interested if a crimped length of cable would upset the rcbo's internals.

[@andysimcox1872]

As far as I’m know there is nothing in the regulations about this. I think this would be more an issue with the manufacturer. I cannot see how it would affect the internal coil. However as you say I cannot see an issue where you would need to extend as the rcbos for 3ph boards as they come with the longer leads.

[@mikebrooks9854]

Hi Nick, What ev charger course did you do ?

[@OCD_Sparkies]

Any chance we could see the sleeve-it with some actual sleeving in it & how it dispenses?

[@PAULD1618]

Best mounted on Unistrutt.

[@toolboxtalking]

Could of mounted the board on a bit of strut. With the offcut wrap it out the guy revving the engine 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@garethmurgatroyd5447]

Hi Nick. What ka rating are those RCBOs?

[@guffermeister]

The comment for you to ignore around grouping cables together... its fine while you know what is in there, how you did it and what you do in the unit. The next person (or even any visitor) might not have any electrical savvy and that is when problems happen....

[@Fozzie68]

Nick Sounds as though your FED UP with everyone and their dog criticising your work. Personally I stick 2 fingers up to those that THINK they KNOW BETTER. UNFORTUNATELY Nick your at the mercy of all that use KZbin. I CAN ONLY REMIND YOU OF A GOOD OLD PHRASE ..... PEOPLE IN GLASS SHOULDNT THROW STONES. I’d imagine those posting comments that are NOT welcome, are NOT perfect themselves, but don’t broadcast their work on the internet, to be RIDICULED. MY COMMENT would be ..... NOT BAD FOR AN HOUSE BASHER. Keep up the good work.👍🏻

[@therealdojj]

from all the comments i see, don't get an electric van and if you are looking at a car, look at the insurance group first

[@user-kt8bf5ni6t]

Looks like ur beards coming back in nicely, how many weeks is that now?

[@darrenthompson6046]

Hi nick love the videos keep them coming and I know you have alot on but do you know when the giveaway is only asking as about 2 months goes you said it will be in 2weeks hope I have not missed it thanks

[@titmando1199]

Brill video your Life360 notification made me check my phone, I thought someone was leaving my house haha.

[@marksmith-ew7ir]

As another KZbinr would say sweat,but he moved away from domestic and doing street and carpark lightings now. Job well done room for extra circuit later in the future

[@kieranmccreedy271]

It'd be interesting if you installed a 3-phase EV charger when you get around to that. 22kW AC charging for the vehicles that support it.

[@rorymcaloon407]

Hi nick only thing I would say , I would have had an earth to the two earth bars as good practice rather then using the enclosure to be the main earth to each of them bars ?

[@celuldor]

Not a "spark", but a question regarding the incoming leads, could you not have done 4 small glands instead or is there something this pleb is missing / not knowing? :)

[@haldo691]

No never pass single conductors through a steel panel it can cause Eddi currents from the magnetic field produced by the cable which is cancelled out when they are bunched together

[@robertburrows6612]

My main criticism is you have not identified L2 or L3 tails with black and grey markers

[@rik061119]

I've seen worse installs from so called commercial sparks, good job

[@paulgardner3926]

Hi Nick what the discount code for rhino?

[@NBundyElectrical]

BUNDY10 mate

[@richm9444]

This may of been answered already but has the draw for the 100k giveaway been done?

[@lewissmithy98]

Consider a Tesla. Cheapest car I’ve ever ran. £12 to charge it fully and no tax. 0% APR now too. Cheap cheap

[@andrewcraig3687]

Nick:"but it is slimmer, which is a bonus" - Also Nick: I've cut down some 1 inch spacers 😅 Top work, looking good

[@kiphakes]

Mate.. I hate to be 'that guy' but I'm sorry you made a glaring error and I feel like I have to pick you up on it.. I did think about doing this privately, but I feel everyone needs to see this.. That's DEFINETELY not 4 inches.. I would say that's at LEAST 8 inches. Thank you x

[@waynenrich]

Careful nick in the tattoo that they dnt put it’s the second hole you come to 😂 It’s from the front to the back 😉

[@BrianSmith-ow9gy]

The cobbler's child goes barefoot, Nick. 18.30

[@smellproofpirate1859]

Are you mad using copper pipe to mount the board!!!!! Someone might get you confused with a stinky plumber 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jamesdevlin3892]

yeah twisting is poor design

[@johnmillington8932]

Don't think the link to Jack's channel is working.

[@connordines667]

Shame 😂😂

[@JRCElectrical]

@@connordines667cock

[@ddunkers98]

Imagine fitting a 3ph meter and not replacing the tails coming from the cut out, it just looks better when you do it

[@craigmorrison2459]

You should have used trunking on the top rather than butchering the top with flex glands, that way you can add anything later you can and it looks way better than that eyesore, infact if I did that at work I’d end up looking for another job as I’d be down the road.

[@GenerateLance]

I’ve recently installed 6 MCG boards and then a week later I saw that fusebox had released these bad boys. I’ll never be installing a MCG again. They maybe ok for mcbs but try fitting rcbos and you literally have 20mm down the sides. Awful design! The extra width of this fusebox will make life miles easier 🥳

[@marklydon435]

Ok i now know you are a heavy handed thud.

[@NBundyElectrical]

why's that?

[@smoggydrones5664]

Might be a cheap EV van going cheap from another channel😢😢😢

[@user-zm4rk9zn8w]

Nick, Nick, Nick....what are you doing using copper spacers? Get yourself some unistrut 20mm or 41mm , some zebs, some gutter bolts, M6 washers and do the job properly.....

[@user-hn4cl5ci4m]

Tails shouldn't come down the side of the fuse board. looks horrendous. Put trunking in and box the fuse board in miles better.

[@smoggydrones5664]

Make sure you do your homework on the EV as TBH they are shit. If your getting it free or sponsored that’s different 😂

[@tomorichard]

The old board you had there is far superior than that piece of cheap and nasty rubbish (in my opinion)

[@jambo8442]

Your puting on the weight can see it in your face 😅

[@mselectricalandgasservices]

hi nick can you send me some tools