Is it time to abandon the SHD? || Story / Lore || The Division 2

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Ever since the onset of the Dollar Flu outbreak, and the activation of the Division Agents, we’ve seen a countless number of once loyal SHD agents, turn rogue.
Is this the sign of poor recruitment and preparation from the Strategic Homeland Division, or are there more sinister reasons behind the potential collapse, of the United States last line of defense?
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THE STORY OF VIVIAN CONLEY
• The Story of VIVIAN CO...
FAY LAU - CORRUPT OR COURAGEOUS?
• FAYE LAU - Corrupt or ...
THE STORY OF JAMES DRAGOV
• The Story of JAMES DRA...
THE STORY OF JAVIER KAJIKA
• The Story of JAVIER KA...
THE STORY OF THEO PARNELL
• The Story of THEO PARN...
WHAT HAPPENED ON CONEY ISLAND?
• What Happened on Coney...
YEAR TWO: STORY / LORE
• Year 2: Warlords of Ne...
WHO ARE THE MASTERMINDS BEHIND THE BLACK TUSK?
• Who are the Mastermind...
WHAT HAS THE PENTAGON BEEN WORKING ON?
• What has the Pentagon ...
FROM BLACK FRIDAY TO THE BLACK TUSK
• From Black Friday to t...
BEFORE THE DARK ZONES WENT DARK
• Before the Dark Zones ...
THE PRESIDENTS OF THE DOLLAR FLU
• The Presidents of the ...
HAS AGENT KELSO GONE ROGUE
• Has AGENT KELSO Gone R...
THE HISTORY OF THE SETTLEMENTS
• The History of the Set...
WHAT IS DC-62?
• What is DC-62 || Story...
THE STORY BEHIND OPERATION DARK HOURS
• The Story Behind OPERA...
WHO IS AARON KEENER? EXTENDED
• Who is Aaron Keener? E...
WHO IS AARON KEENER?
• Who is AARON KEENER? |...
CANNIBALS in DC?
• CANNIBALS in DC?? || L...
WHAT IS ISAC & SHD TECH
• What is ISAC & SHD Tec...
HOW ARE DIVISION AGENTS CHOSEN?
• How are Division Agent...
THE STORY OF THE HYENAS
• The Story of the HYENA...
THE STORY OF THE BLACK TUSK
• The Story of the BLACK...
THE STORY OF THE OUTCASTS
• The Story of the OUTCA...
THE STORY OF THE TRUE SONS
• The Story of the TRUE ...
HOSTILE FACTIONS OVERVIEW || The Division 2
• Hostile Factions Overv...
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FIRST WAVE?
• WHAT HAPPENED TO THE F...
WHO ARE THE HUNTERS?
• WHO ARE THE HUNTERS? |...
THE STORY OF THE CLEANERS
• The story of THE CLEAN...
THE STORY OF THE LMB
• THE STORY OF THE RIKER...
THE STORY OF THE LMB
• THE STORY OF THE LMB |...
WHERE DID THE VIRUS COME FROM?
• WHERE DID THE VIRUS CO...
THE STORY OF THE JOINT TASK FORCE
• THE STORY OF THE JOINT...
THE STORY OF RICK VALASSI
• THE STORY OF RICK VALA...
THE STORY OF THE LOST AGENTS - PART 1
• The story of the LOST ...
THE STORY OF THE LOST AGENTS - PART 2
• The story of the LOST ...
THE STORY OF THE LOST AGENTS - PART 3
• The story of the LOST ...
THE STORY OF THE LOST AGENTS - PART 4
• The story of the LOST ...
WHERE DID THE SHD COME FROM?
• Where did the SHD come...
FROM NYC TO WASHINGTON DC
• From NYC to Washington...
The story of APRIL KELLEHER - Part 1
• The story of APRIL KEL...
The story of APRIL KELLEHER - Part 2
• The story of APRIL KEL...
The story of APRIL KELLEHER - Part 3
• The story of APRIL KEL...
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[@ek7404]

I want to see a group of Rogues/ex-agents that still stay true to the mission of the SHD with their own version of ISAC but don’t answer to the SHD in order to complete the mission that the original SHD failed to do. As far as I know, we’ve never ran into a Rogue that is “good,” not sure why once you go Rogue you have to start lighting up civilians and other agents.

[@1BITfuerGamer]

That seems like the rogue cell we are currently manhunting. They have a systemof their own, namely the rogue network keener setup, they don't actively seek conflict with us, and they are trying to realize some plan of their own. Whether or not that plan was born out of good intentions remains to be seen.

[@carlospedraza1470]

So, like Keener and ANNA?

[@neofulcrum5013]

E K that might end up happening to our character

[@jgvtc559]

@@1BITfuerGamer dont actively seek combat Clear a control point No theyre lettinh our enemies tie us up so just like in the dz its easy to take us out

[@maxbessire9016]

Yeah, I don’t know why after going rogue Faye immediately goes all “bring the division to its knees”

[@TheGlassSword]

So this got me thinking... there was an interesting interaction I saw in New York map in Chinatown area. A black tusk patrol was checking in on people in the building just wanted to make small talk and was being nice and telling them to take care... but of coarse 3 blocks later public execution.... it’s very confusing... but if I think about it... me gunning down rioters in the street is also the same... WHAT AM I DOING?!

[@Lynch2507]

... Mate, killing rioters for hurting people and a public execution on innocents are very different things. It's literally the difference between self defense and murder

[@_Smile_Today]

This is a game design issue if this was true RPG they could do more with the story with your actions having weight to them

[@1BITfuerGamer]

Well, I've seen black tusk patrols open fire at stray dogs. they're evil, case closed.

[@myafelicia]

@@1BITfuerGamer Dang, then I should join them because I've sent dogs and deers to greener pastures as well...

[@fatewinter6000]

league of casualssss well you have to remember. The one who hired black tusks stated: “I want cut throats and killers” I believe there’s a giant mix of personnel in the Black Tusk’s where yes there are some absolutely awful people who are full blown military killers for hire. But it is a Private Military Company that works for Government security, so they aren’t all bad people In terms of the soldiers they have. It would make sense for some of them to be checking up on civilians and being nice to them making sure they’re okay...than having Black Tusk soldiers having a public execution. I see it as a good way of showing that while yes most Black Tusk soldiers are hired mercenaries and contract killers. Some of said mercs and contractors aren’t shitty people

[@Adwentheblackdragon]

Honestly. The SHD system isnt working anymore. ISAC is a good system but with many many flaws that should have been taken care of. Also the JTF was the one who started it all by abandoning all division agents in the dark zone and telling them too stay or else getting flagged as rogues because they didnt choose to die alone like in Javier Kajikas case. Black Tusk is no good solution either since they are more or less like the LMB but with someone behind them giving them to ressources to fight. Also the Division had all rights and limitless ressources to do as they please pretty much without fearing any sort of consequence. Of course some people would use that to their advantage. So maybe it was all set up to be doomed from the start to make a path to a new world? Maybe it is just what you see is what you get. Amherst was crazy and created to Dollar Flu. The Division and Directive 51 was there for exactly that case when the shit hits the fan but they failed due to the JTF abandoning them and many turned rogue feeling betrayed and working against the Division. The Black Tusk are there to do the Job of the Division since the division failed and mysterious person in the background wants to create a new america

[@spazzmadness4944]

Are we going to talk about how our objective in the corner of the screen is confirmed to be canon. This means Isaac is literally just telling us what to do. You saw how Keener hacked into them and was putting random words like we will never win. I think this is crazy how no one is talking about it

[@houseplant7574]

Attention you have disavowed the Divsion, You are all marked as Rouge

[@Aristocratic13]

Spazz Madness He asked “Do you trust Lau?” I think Keener knew way more then he let on. I hope he faked his death or left recordings

[@fatewinter6000]

Ardwen Black Black Tusks: you failed so fuck you Division we’re in charge now

[@iceberg4736]

@@Aristocratic13 I honestly hope he would've after his failed plan to set Eclipse loose. The Division 3 has a lot of loose ends to untangle & questions to answer, because after dealing with Keener's rogue network (or just the 5 ISAC tasked us to go after) who else out there will we have to deal with, or what other faction rose to power because the defenses went silent and accountability went out the window?

[@Sykersomatic]

I honestly can't say if we're a failed experiment or not. Here's what I do know: thru our direct actions, we helped revitalize the Theater and Campus settlements. I don't see the Rogues actually trying to build anything. Walking thru the completed Campus settlement in particular, I feel a sense of accomplishment. I'll sometimes just sit and listen to the band play. Or in the Theater settlement, being able to provide the kids with a gaming center? That felt good. I wish we had more settlements to help and develop. And who do we fight? People who summarily execute noncoms in the streets. Kidnappers and thugs, bioterrorists, tinpot warlords who betrayed their oaths to the people...the types that would cut the Castle settlement down without a second thought for example. I'm not saying the SHD is in the right, and we're certainly not a democratic solution, but faced with such brutality, someone has to fight back. Keener may have had a point, but it's seriously undercut by deploying Dollar Flu 2.0. We may not be right, but we're certainly not THAT level of wrong.

[@jackthorton10]

We will remain vigilant no matter the flaw, some one got to hold some kind of hope, cause with out it we are lost

[@joeyhuynh5893]

i think its that we have such a range of autonomy where almost anything can be deemed necessary even if brutal.the thing is within their should i little more accountability than just report to the president but still have that wide range of autonomy. just because one is red does not mean they are bad they simple made a tough decision that made them bend the protocols for a time being. as the division we do help and give hope to remaining citizens wanting to return to normacly and combating threats to them and peace. however we have not seen a greater threat rising in the dark thinking its only been us against them. its more complicated than that. the government became concern about protecting its politicians and elite few and managing its resources terribly. the black tusk wanted to talk power and establish their own world order. while both are misguided the agents of the division are the only hope to protect the people and protect what remains however the division has been compromised and needs to restart anew

[@AnimuWarlock]

I feel like the main thing is ISAC. We shouldn't ever get rid of him, he's too useful to us, but he needs to be updated. The situation has escalated past what anybody thought it would.

[@tuga4477]

NGN: ISAC is voice by Brandon James Keemer Me: WHAT?? HOLD UP A SEC GO BACK, he is voice by who??? we are on to something here.

[@jazz1x45]

I don't think if it's clear enough to say SHD is the "good guy" one. Because most of the community (like the theater, the campus) build base on trusting each other and especially not leaving anyone behind. To save what remain is not by leaving agent behind when they are down. That's what makes SO MUCH agents gone rogue. Following order base on AI calculations isn't the good way to survive apocalyptic world. If the game let me choose between rogue agent or SHD agent on the 1st time I start the story, I will be rogue. We don't know if ISAC already been compromised or not, just like the chat between Parnell and Keener. I know ISAC tag agents as rogue if they don't follow the protocol, but what if "to save what remain" we need to NOT following the protocol. What if "to save what remain" we need to survive to fight another day. There's still a big hole on Division storyline that makes it different than any other Tom Clancy's story. That's why I like this game :)

[@R0gueM]

I love how this game walks a fine line on good and bad. Are your enemies really bad? Are you really fighting for good? You learn the backstory of your enemies and you realize that they are actually people who were beat down. Not all of them were villains at the beginning. They weren’t born thinking “I’m gonna kill and take over”. They grew and developed. Then you look at yourself and your cause. What are you fighting for? To keep the same government functional and build it back to what it was. Is this the right thing? The JTF screwed over the first wave and helped create many rogues. Is the current system right? Is it actually working? So many questions are presented and as of right now, are left for us to answer in our own way. We can keep it as black and white as we like. They are bad, we are good. Why? Because I was told so. Or, we can go as in depth as we like and really build our characters as ourselves in this situation. Yes, you’re doing the missions without saying anything, but in your head, you’re questioning everything presented to you. I think the rogues are right about the system being wrong and not fighting for it, but I don’t like how they are fighting and what they fight for. Take Keener. He was planning on weaponizing diseases. I can’t get behind biological warfare. War is bad enough. Biological warfare just crosses a line for me. That is something that we should not get in to. Sorry for the long paragraph. I’m just fascinated by this world presented to us. They have created an amazing opportunity and I hope they delve much deeper into it.

[@minuterepeater2257]

Thats just the nature of armed conflicts, in the real world its the same.

[@AgentLeonDeputyAmaral]

''Good agents followed orders''

[@regriefing1807]

@@AgentLeonDeputyAmaral nah I'm good.

[@DeadSpaceWing]

Here's my philosophy. You shoot at me, you die.

[@conchurfitzsimons570]

The government and SHD has failed us all. I'm taking matters into my own hands, and if another agent tries to get in my way? I'll f*cking gun them down. ISAC: Agent has gone rogue

[@yashak7270]

I'm on the verge of deciding whether I would go rogue or not. So many agents have gone rogue but when you look at their reasons, you (might) see why they left. What happened to Kajika is stupid. I thought The Division was a team, not just overpowered police who blindly follow orders like robots. I thought that NO ONE GETS LEFT BEHIND. As it turns out, agents are more disposable than they think. Keener left behind in an evacuation, Kajika being forced to choose to either die or save himself and probably so many more. Look at what happened. They felt betrayed, being left for dead. As once said by General Sheperd from COD..."History is written by the victor." If the end if the division comes out on top, they will make it seem as if they are the good guys. Nobody would know about the rogues who left for a REASON. The Division needs to get it's shit together and the people working for it need to see the bigger picture. Are the Black Tusk really the bad guys? Is the government still worth fighting for? So much bloodshed could've been avoided if "thE DiVisiON" looked at the bigger picture. Now they lost a computer genius (Parnell), a chemical engineer (Conley), a master fighter (Kajika), a fiercely protective police officer (Dragov) and a mastermind (Keener) and so, many, more; all in the span of 7 months just because they don't act human. Think of it this way. You are a SHD agent. The last hope for the US. You are given the best training possible to survive nuclear, radioactive and biohazardous situations. You are to lay dormant until activated, which is when you give up your previous life and devote your life to serving the purpose of the SHD, to ensure the continuation of the government. Now, the world is left in remains due to a global pandemic. As an agent of the SHD you are trying to make sure the government keeps running. You are basically not allowed to think for yourself and must follow a bunch of rules which restrict you from being able to do anything other than the mission you are given. You must kill countless amounts of people and not have second thoughts about it. The president is gone and at this point you're just fighting people who want the same thing as you do, a rebuilt world with peace and order. If by any chance, you are stuck in a dangerous situation and abandon it; or if you do something which is "against" the rules of the SHD, your status as agent will be removed and will be replaced with "rogue." You will be cut off from the SHD netword and your life is on the line. What will you do?

[@Flow_Easy]

All of this. But also "History is filled with Liars" -Captain Price

[@xaptor8685]

*panicking noises*

[@claytonthegrubkiller6430]

This could tie to a more complex clan system, like an actual faction with a hierarchy and ranks, all made from ex-agents that won't follow the SHD rules anymore

[@SuperCern]

ISAC is the real enemy. Fast learning soon to be self-aware AI is the next supervillain in Division 3.

[@jasarigames4481]

Ironic

[@myafelicia]

I've been saying this since the Division 1!!! The way ISAC keep laying down routes that will 100% guarantee the player to end up in a battle every 100 metres on their way to their destination, can't be coincidence. ISAC is trying to off us all before taking over the world. Mark my words! 😉

[@spazzmadness4944]

Also he literally gives us commands in the corner of the screen which is canon from when keener was hacking your watch

[@xaptor8685]

You’re scaring me buddy but hoping that’s not true.

[@user-qc8ms5wj1w]

Fast learning yes, but it won't be self-aware, very unlikely to happen

[@ExtarDeLaRochebriant]

I wish we had a solo division game where you can basically choose dialogues and decide whether you keep going as a "Rogue" or stay loyal to the SHD

[@LordRedinald]

or join the Black Tusk

[@kreamykermit7712]

Exactly what i was thinking!

[@Revexityx]

Exactly

[@Revexityx]

I’m definitely going rouge

[@mettatonbutflesh8589]

This is exactly what I want

[@fhilbelgica_8138]

Water came outta my nose when I heard Kelso was that crazy ex gf type while I was drinking

[@sir.richard5346]

to be fair she is

[@fhilbelgica_8138]

@@sir.richard5346 she's cute asf too, ngl

[@sir.richard5346]

@@fhilbelgica_8138 are you sure we're talking about the same kelso

[@duaneclarence8758]

I gather the feeling that the SHD was set up to fail from the beginning. Who honestly thought that giving a select handful experimental technology, military grade hardware, and unlimited power to do whatever it takes a good idea?

[@soadsajjadi]

The United States apparently 🤣🤣

[@Nonsense010688]

the thing is... the whole thing makes little sense: we assume a national Desaster. what will weaken the USA in massive ways. Why is a non "barracks" organisation better for that then lets say some division that has a barracks ect. I mean how many Division agents were dead on dollar flue before they were called upon and how many could have brought the virus in a new establish HQ?

[@Aristocratic13]

Si Wi One requirement to be a Agent is to “have strong immune systems” so I think it’s safe to say not a lot got the flu especially with their equipment. I mean our agent goes in the DZ in NY all the time and don’t get sick. Well so do.. LMB an Rioters an Cleans... hmm

[@soadsajjadi]

@@Aristocratic13 we also have protective masks but also just because someone has a strong immune system it doesn't mean they won't catch the flu it just means the body is able to fight it off and them surviving and not dying as the result of being infected 🤔

[@Nonsense010688]

@@Aristocratic13 but being able to survive it makes it kinda worse since its more likely you spread it without noticing it... let alone that this is still a terrible strategy in terms of likely odds.

[@loganh.1983]

I think it would be interesting to have the option to become rogue and try and survive on your own, or even have your own path in terms of story. I agree with keener to a extent that we are nothing but a tool but I wouldn’t go as far as killing everyone involved. For me the black tusk do seem like the logical step, the division is on the back foot and quickly loosing ground and man power, and the black tusk don’t seem to have that issue. If there is a option to go rogue at some point I’ll be doing it.

[@threemarble5637]

“No cause is lost until everyone has given up on it.” This is the phrase that say when people say we are fighting a lost cause.

[@wooper8996]

Something I love about this game is the fact that it makes you think “Will the good guys win?” and I love that about the game because it keeps you on edge when going on with the story

[@bebomac5]

Fun fact: Brandon Keener also voices Garrus Vakarian from Mass Effect.

[@sandorfelfoldi2142]

ISAC needs his calibration time😛

[@supposedlyiamaphilosopher587]

tbh, I think the fact that one does not abandon SHD is what makes it so admirable. The idea that there are so many forces working against them, and that the situations are so hopeless, but they still fight on, makes it admirable. They are not being crybabies like Keener and the other rogue agents. Giving up on SHD also reduces it all to utility, which, unless you are a fan of utilitarianism (which I absolutely am not), is very sketchy. The Division agents are the only ones who do not attack settlements. Edit: Are you 100% certain Kajika got flagged as rogue for retreating? From what I understand was given a rogue status because he went on a crazy killing spree. But maybe I am missing something.

[@Aristocratic13]

Supposedly I am a philosopher He says it in the recording. Also another agent got flagged that same way (except more shady) in the book Broken Dawn.

[@neofulcrum5013]

Supposedly I am a philosopher he went rogue for leaving civilians behind. It was a situation where he didn’t have a choice. Killing the jtf on the spree is another matter entirely.

[@supposedlyiamaphilosopher587]

I got it^^ thanks for telling me though. I have the audioclip, i guess I just didn't understand it that way, and it is a bit lorebreaking as that would mean you are potentially flagged rogue everytime you don't save civilians, or help them out when they are patrolling around. Basically everytime when you have the opportunity to. It feels a bit inconsistent and makes we wonder if the devs are changing perspective of how they want the game to turn out for some reason...?

[@Aristocratic13]

Supposedly I am a philosopher You’re welcome daddy

[@naototsukihana5192]

I think Kajika been mark as rogue after start hunt down JTF. In record is just his claim. It no evidence that ISAC mark someone for retreat when no other way. Only case is that I watch novel of Division on YT one agent intent to abandon civilian to die because that agent is double agent work for BTS. and other agent that arrive at the scene to help later found evidence of intention of abandon civilian and start hunt that agent down.

[@_Smile_Today]

It's leading to a 2nd American civil war. You bring up good points about isac and what it is to go rouge, we have to remember that any system can be corrupted and I think at some point all SHD agents (player characters in division 2) will be classified as Rouge, I say this because we are introduced to Anna and how rouges have access to SHD tech and a network, they gave us a ai that may give us more autonomy

[@gtmike916]

Why does every say Rogue as Rouge. Rouge is a theme or color. Rogue is the actual term.

[@LieFieLiFi]

Looking at the psych evals of people like Kajika and Keener, the SHD was doomed to fail when the first wave was sent in half assed. They would have died to fulfill their mission, only the ones behind the desks weren't prepared to do the same. So in the end what's the point in dying for someone or something who doesn't really care?

[@memecliparchives2254]

The program of Directive 51 could have worked, had the SHD recruiters could not been very desperate for recruits. I bet the very Division agent who stayed composed all the time and he's not even a field agent but a logistics and communications officer is Manny Ortega.

[@syko188]

ask not what your country can do for you...?

[@_nakari]

Here is something I don’t understand in regards to Kajika. If we as agents have blank check and have the ability to take command, why didn’t Kajika belay the government’s order for the JTF to pull out? Do we not have that kind of authority? Great videos! Loving your series!

[@nomadichippie1930]

Nakari from one of the audio recording he tries to but someone explains that they have the home field adtantage and you’d be working with them not the other way around. Maybe someone above him like a division commander stopped him before getting stuck in the dark zone

[@_nakari]

Nomadic Hippie I remember hearing it, maybe I just misunderstood. I guess because he was first wave, there could still be someone in command. I’m just now actually remembering lol.

[@nomadichippie1930]

Nakari yeah it seem like he was talking to a handler or someone from the division. But that’s just my guess

[@Aristocratic13]

From the novel perspective, the Division can do what they want or assist the JTF much like in the game. In the book Broken Dawn, Agent Diaz does favors for this JTF officer and she does favors for him. Both don’t have control over one another.

[@_nakari]

Black Moon Knight I was completely unaware of novels and now gonna pick those up. Thank you!

[@syko188]

there is no Constitutional provision for Directive 51 empowering the Executive to assume "coordination" leadership over the other branches of government and has lawsuits pending against it under the grounds of "separation of powers" violations. neither does this directive specify who has the power to declare the emergency over. in essence this gives the president and his successors de facto ultimate power in perpetuity. many of the annexes are kept secret from even high level elected officials and board members of the Homeland Security Council. and finally there are unresolved conflicts between it and the National Emergencies Act of 1976, which is federal law that gives Congress oversight of presidential emergency powers. i know this is a game, but it would seem to me to make the SHD an illegal/unconstitutional "rogue" organization.

[@killer_boss01]

Man I would love that in td3 the story turns in to the good side turns bad, what a great dept to the story they can add, would be like that cool villians that turn to heroes, at the end, im soo pumped for this, good switch in the lore I would spec, and then you will can to choose your path on being on the shd or the rouges, and then your desicions and will choose your path to the history of the game, making the game replayable and enjoyable while you can see all the different storys that could envolve, making you in the control of the game where you as an agent you are actually now working for something now that he sees and belive and takes his own desicions trying to make a better word based on his belief, and not because is like the orders of the shd or the rouges, to put it in simple words, you will be able to not play a linear game and have many posibillities and that way you will be so much more attached to the story and the lore the characters the bond with your agent...... Men thank you for this video..... You made me realize the potential that this game could have, I love it

[@AnimuWarlock]

I personally feel that ISAC should be revamped. Not downgraded or made less important, but his protocols altered to fit the current situation.

[@crustyroach6921]

Excellent work NGN! Made me think of several story threads. You are the vaatividya of the Division. Keep em coming

[@calebsmith9773]

We are to do whatever it takes to save what remains. I don’t think going rouge is a bad thing because like you said, there isn’t any clear guidelines as to what Division protocol is. When the dollar flu hit and everything went to shit, the Division were rushed out and with that came the ISAC program which is great on paper but who ever is in charge of the Division, had to rush out this new technology, therefore that means ISAC is highly flawed. As to who I think is in charge of The Division, well I personally believe it’s the same group who run Black Tusk. Edit: On the discussion of the identity of Black Tusk, just putting this out there, what if Black Tusk was run and organised by a completely different country?

[@jackthorton10]

Good to see I am not alone agent

[@christopherlue9096]

Once again, NGN videos are fascinating to watch

[@nikp3572]

This guy has the best voice to tell a story

[@nubbieeee]

Honestly dude. You are the G. You go so deep into the plot and create such an epic story. *Those god damn teddy bears.*

[@krishnarao3740]

The entire framework is the division is wrong. Let's go over the things that make the division flawed and why it fails to uphold its mission. 1) THE RECRUITING PROCESS We have seen continuously in recordings throughout the game that even though the recruiters knew they had mental instabilities and wavering opinions about the division and yet they still drafted them. The recruiters placed their skill above their mentality because they thought they could put a leash on them. 2) COMBAT EXPERIENCE First of all let's take note that that at least 70% do not originate from a military background, some may have trained in a paramilitary force but have not actually gone into real combat. The division should consist of 80% military officers who have experience in combat. This makes a huge difference in combat as military officers are trained to handle intense firefights and are able to keep a straight mind during combat. This isn't the case for civilians. 3) MENTALITY Taking note from my last point the reason why the division should solely consist of military officers is cause of one thing, that is that military officers are the most loyal and patriotic people in the nation and have sworn to defend the United States and everything it stands up for. Whereas since the division has drafted civilians they have less mental strength and are more likely to turn, brainwashed and etc. Agents who are drafted into the division need to be absolutely loyal to their mission considering the political and militaristic power they wield. And now I would like to move onto the black tusk and the rogues. Firstly black tusk simply want to establish a totalitarian plutocracy like parnel mentioned "facist plutocracy" now the rogue agents propose that nothing right now is worth saving and that the only way to rebuild the nation is to tear down and destroy everything that remains and rebuild a new nation. I do understand the rogues ideology and their motives but I don't necessarily agree with them and the black tusk are just power hungry tyrants.

[@jangofresh1019]

Before I sit and watch the video; The title actually made me remember an idea for an expansion I had. The way it would work is kind of similar to how the Scryers/Aldor in WoW: Burning Crusade worked (or the new factions in WoW: Shadowlands). Wall of text warning. The basic idea is you pick a "side". You find out that SHD is collapsing and such. You get "emails" like in Mass Effect, from certain "benefactors" offering you a position in their organization. Black Tusk's email = their typical schtick of "The SHD is in it's death throes. We know it. You know it. To think otherwise is a child's fantasy. We've also seen what you're capable of against our own forces, and we're impressed. So impressed that we've decided to offer you a place in our organization. You have been granted temporary amnesty to think about this decision. We have all the resources we need to accomplish our goal. Weapons, manpower, food, water. If you decide to join us meet us at *insert coordinates*. You have until this 0600 tomorrow to decide." Rogues = *insert Keener-esque speech and some coordinates.* UnKnOwN sEnDeR = "Even as you're reading this, we see you. Come to the Manhattan Dark Zone, where it all started. Where WE started. Follow the clues. We'll find you." [e-mail] = "This email is automated. There are still SHD Agrents at work and all is well!" Blah blah blah. For gameplay purposes, you can still group up with ANYONE regardless of the faction they've picked (and can change yours around at-will after you reach a certain point). It's just a different skills/bonuses + cosmetic change. The most fleshed out example of the skills/bonuses/cosmetics = "UnKnOwN sEnDeR" Weapon + melee DPS/Tank hybrid. 50% armor increase + 10% hazard/bleed/shock/disorient/etc. resistances, 25% increase ARs, SMGs, shotguns, LMGs base damage + 10% handling (stability, accuracy, reload speed), 10% increase to crit damage, 5% increase to crit chance. 100% increased Threat Generation. Due to the... extremely strong nature of this faction's stat boosts, SHD skills are completely disabled while playing as this faction (as said before, you can swap between the factions after a certain point). The skills in question? 1. Smoke'n'Cloak - 30 second cooldown (for lack of a better name). Pop EM smoke, disrupting enemy skills and their HUD. You become "Invisible" until 1. 10 seconds have passed. 2. You fire your weapon. 3. You go within 7 meters of an enemy. 4. You press the button again. Drops ALL Threat generated immediately. 2. Tactical axe - 45 second cooldown. Do 75% of your target's TOTAL health + armor pool as damage. Basically, if someone has 100% armor and 100% health, they will be left with 0% armor and 25% health. If someone has 75% armor (or less) and 100% health, a brief execution animation will play (you are invulnerable during this) resulting in an instant-kill and healing/armor repair for YOU. Blocks revives. Targets where damage is reduced heavily to 25% (for balance reasons) = Named Elites/Bosses. Targets this cannot be done to (at all) = Tanks and robotic enemies. Caveat; You HAVE to be in melee range ALREADY. There is no "glory kill teleport" like in DOOM.

[@jasonpaul292]

The Division was always the antagonist, shoot to kill, no option to neutralize without execution.

[@CapitalismInSteel]

In reality, as in if this was all real, my reason would be the same as keeners. You know, the division didnt help him while under attack rikers, fire, and with civvies with him. In game, if someone kills me right before I extract something, I turn rogue and am off on a mission to get my revenge.

[@stevenlewis1612]

Great video, editing, spot on, story line flawless. This Leeds me to my own conclusion. DIVISION 3

[@juniortranslatorredacted7701]

It's worth noting that Presidential Directive 51, or, at least, the sections that aren't classified, make no mention of sleeper agents.

[@ChampionOrBust]

I could hear you talk about The Division for days man. Keep up the great work

[@crossseigfried]

I don't think it is time to abandon the SHD, in fact, I support them on their effort and beliefs even more now. Their mission as stated is to protect what remains. Their mission objective is to: Protect the Populace, Secure the continuation of the United States of America, and Best interest of the people. as suggested in the video in the scene in time 5:08 of the video. {Now the objectives: Protect the populace - In my opinion means ensuring that the populace is adhering to the Rule of Law, Are well and adequately protected by recognized government organizations, and ensuring government organizations established before the dollar flue can continue its functionality as normal before the event of the activation of the Division. Securing the continuation of the United States of America - in my opinion, is the support of agencies who still remain as recognized government organizations of the United States of America, The JTF, and the like. The best interest of the people - In my opinion, means doing things within the parameters set before by the 1st two mission objectives of the Division.} {Now when one goes rogue you either do things that are not recognized as adhering to the parameters of the objective:} {1.) If you go against, taking hostile acts, these emergency government organizations, activated during a catastrophic event, being affiliated directly to the government, recognized by the people from before the dollar flue hit, then in all effects, you are going against protocol. Because you are not ensuring the continuity of government but rather replacing the government with something that isn't recognized as such before the dollar flue. When you go against, again taking hostile acts, the emergency organizations placed by the government before the outbreak, you are committing high treason or treasonous acts. Whether you think your idea is more effective than the organization's solutions.} {2.) Now the Best Interest of the people is where things get really blurry. The Best Interest of the people can mean many things, such as replacing the government altogether, the elimination of key government organizations, the assassination of key government figures or just simply restoring the old order the best way anyone can. This is a way to general mission objectives that can basically be accomplished by any means. But this is only looking at one key part of the mission and disregarding the rest of your mission objective, in which case you as a rogue agent are not following protocol. Your mission is to protect what remains, ensuring that the government of the United States of America, and no other, survive.} {Now I go to why the SHD shouldn't be abandoned. 1st is that the SHD Mission objective is still a viable solution to giving back a semblance of normalcy and order into the different areas of the United States. Because again it is trying to put back the state from the brink and not abandon those who are holding unto hope that the United States can get back on its feet; not abandoning old morals and laws, not trying to undermine the primary spirit of American Democracy or Ideals (At least I think they aren't xD), and trying to return things as they were. 2nd is that unlike the other factions, the Division is hell-bent in returning people into an era of peace and prosperity where the life of the people of the United States can get back to Normal, as in modern-day (Real life) Normal. 3rd is that as far as the other factions go, each of them is hell-bent in carving their own ideals and ambitions not for the sake of the people but for their own political agendas.}

[@L30NHART]

After listening to the interview tapes, researching Black Tusk lore, and the introduction of ANNA, I'm more convinced they will add an option to join a "Rogue" faction as part of the narrative in the game. After learning that ISAC's orders are essentially a cut out and never given from an actual government official and listening to the hilariously bad interviews for WONY rogues, Im thinking the Division really is a clown faction.

[@tommygunz06]

I would actually love to see a possible The Division 3 based in Los Angeles, it would be better to get perspectives based on the west coast, instead of the east, there’s great locations, and major military installations, allowing for a more in depth look into the JTF being stronger on the west coast

[@kakarrot5115]

Amazing video keep up the good work looking forward to the next one

[@aww6458]

Rogue agent detected ‘ngns ring goes red’

[@ren4issance-754]

**SHD Disavowed** **commencing rogue protocols**

[@RedHawk25]

“Or people who clap in the theater at the end of a movie” That is so hilarious and funny 😂

[@CrystalliaBaggins]

great video i've become addicted to your videos, Thank you for all your hard work

[@Czer141]

@NGN I love your Div videos man I really never want them too stop! Could you maybe do some more on the extended lore like the comics and stuff? Tia

[@IDKeffect82]

Another one. Thank you for the lore recap.

[@SzeregowiecPL]

I will stay with SHD side! When Society Falls, We Rise, We will fight to save what remains!

[@Js-ld5er]

Agree we must find all loyal agents and killed all the rogues and those who betrayed the division

[@Js-ld5er]

@@Vthe_botV if you blame the tech that helps you then why rely on it even if they do the job are they doing it right or wrong

[@Js-ld5er]

@@Vthe_botV the jtf may have left them but we are suppose to adapt to the situation and if we can't then you must be marked as rogue

[@jackthorton10]

For the Divison, loyal to a fault

[@jackthorton10]

12:37 April 15 2020 Agent signing on with SHD

[@EmporerAaron]

SHD is still the good guys that are fighting for a cause thats still plausible but doesn't mean the government itself. The SHD was created in response to the results of Operation Dark Winter, a simulation that showed what would happen if a massive epidemic occurred. It didn't count in something like Black Tusk or LMB or any of that. The fact that the SHD is still standing is a show that when faced with a enemy they weren't expecting they still prevailed against the odds. ISAC is merely the foundation like the protocols and standard procedure the Division follows, the rest is left up to the agents themselves. They are meant to adapt, to survive, and continue to function and find a way when the rules don't cover the situation. They were likely trained to do so in order to be successful in the field. With the JTF pulling out of the Dark Zone however, thats something that could have been expected with only so much manpower and resources, but one has to question just how many people were they trying to save at the time. Obviously you can't save everyone, you can only save those that you can. Its a dark reality but its the truth, and perhaps the JTF realized this or were merely forced to retreat by higher ups who were not the boots on the ground people who didn't know how truly bad it was first hand. Agents going rogue would have been expected, as they have procedures on what to do with them and a way to identify them. As expected for the Division, what they do in the field to achieve the Divisions goal is in their hands, but obviously joining any group or taking actions that go against fellow Division agents or SHD itself can be considered rogue actions as it goes against the organization itself and its efforts to achieve its goal. none of the factions that have had rogue agents involved were working towards what SHD was. LMB were attempting to establish Fascist rule that did nothing to assist in preserving the lifes of the people or combating the virus. Black Tusk was actively disrupting and hindering SHD in many ways, while targeting civilian militia as a "insurgence group". Rikers and Cleaners for obvious reasons. The only groups that have been working to achieve the goals similar to SHD have been JTF and Civilian Militia. The government can be considered no longer in play here as the president has turned traitor and most of the higher ups are dead or in hiding. At this point SHD agents answer to each other and their coordinators in the case of D.C. The rules may have changed and much of the foundation to it as well, but the goal and concept is still the same. SHD can still function but just like its agents it has to adapt and change to function in the "new world" they live in. Groups like the JTF and Civilian Militia function as the only groups that support the goal of the Division. They represent the groups that people actually benefit from while not being exploited like they would with True Sons, Black Tusk, or any group the Division has encountered and fought against. They can truly represent the "government" the Division is meant to preserve to save whats left. The rogues represent those that no longer believe the Divisions goal is possible or have simply begin to think of themselves and not the larger group, or believe that the groups the Division is fighting against are the only ones who can bring order. Yet, as I said before The Division didn't expect to be going up against groups like Black Tusk or whoever is behind them. The fact they still stand and have won major victories against them shows that they can beat the odds when stacked against them. Whose to say the goal cannot still be achieved through adapting to the new world and remember what it is the Division is fighting for.

[@EmporerAaron]

Also because I typed out such a large response, If you read it NGN I would appreciate your opinion on it, but I can finally post that theory I have. So we know how things got, how the JTF pulled out leaving the Division agents of the first wave, and we know how that turned out. My theory is....what if it was meant that way. So we don't know how deep these people behind Black Tusk run. For all we know they could have had people in the JTF and the higher ups involved in handling the situation. Now Black Tusk were meant to be the Praetorian guards of this new dynasty and a means to combat the old government and SHD directly. Yet what if they got some early punches in by ensuring the Dark Zone and the JTFs handling on it went haywire and resulted in them pulling out. What better way to weaken SHD then to sabotage their efforts early on. I remember reading somewhere that while first wave agents aren't as well equipped as the 2nd wave they are much larger. Ensuring the handling went horribly, meant the JTF would pull out leaving the agents on their own. Well they would either die, go rogue, or simply vanish as some of your theories on the missing agents show. (Though I feel like there has to be some first wave agents still around, Keener and such can't be that efficient that they wiped them all out) All of which would weaken SHD early on and with the first wave going dark they'd have to send in the second wave. Now we don't know the numbers but if its true they were more numerical then the 2nd wave thats quite a few agents that are out of action and a good number of the Divisions numbers no longer in play. The fact they had to send in the cavalry so early in the disaster means that theres no one else they can send in if the second wave runs into trouble. So just a few weeks into the outbreak the Divisions first wave goes out the window and they have to send in the second wave which I read that were smaller but better equipped. Thats not a good sign and works in Black Tusks favor. The agents would likely be fighting tooth and nail trying to put out all the fires. Exhausted, stretched thin, no back up it would be a perfect time for Black Tusk to start their campaign of targeting ISAC and the Division. Its just a theory that came to be after fighting Theo Parnell and going after Kajika but it got me thinking what if its true.

[@MethosReborn5930]

ISAC - Keener... MIND BLOWN!!!

[@user-Jay178]

There are so many flaws in the division and the government has failed so many times. Great video

[@mandoreforger6999]

Rogue agents were needed for exciting gameplay. They seem numerous in game, but from a lore standpoint probably are less so. It is also very unlikely that most rogue agents in the lore would actually seek open conflict with SHD. They simply have resigned their appointment, most likely to preserve themselves and their families. Most would evacuate the urban areas that have fallen to find their family and friends. I can buy that a few rogues might have some animosity about being abandoned in the dark zone, but that is what they are trained for...collapsing order and lack of hierarchy. It should come as no surprise that the government might pull out of virus hot zones that cannot be saved. This a pragmatic decision to save what can be saved and to protect what can be saved. Civilized order certainly exists outside the urban areas among the 150 million Americans still alive in the agricultural zones of the nation. I would love to see that story told in the next installment. I would love to see a combination of current gameplay with campaign city builder economics. SHD agents helping to push forward the boundary line of civilization.

[@Tai_Mai_Shu]

I just stared playing. About three weeks in. I'm really loving this game. Damn good one at that. I almost went rogue by accident... 😳😩 Awesome video, and thank you!

[@questionmark05]

ISAC is also Garrus. Explains why he may need calibrations

[@douglaswidner7130]

Love your vids man best of luck and stay safe man

[@NGN]

You too man. I hope you and the family is staying locked up and safe!

[@douglaswidner7130]

@@NGN we are

[@NGN]

Thank you very much for becoming a member!!

[@MoonHowler340]

Why I've not already subscribed to this channel. It's very high quality lore content channel :D

[@oomerimunni]

SHD is divided now. There are the ones who are staying true to the task and ones who are in a gray area or are considering going rogue. I think that the agents that stay true to the task still call them selves SHD, but they are no longer SHD. They are just highly trained individuals that want the best for the people. And I think they can still bring some sort of peace to the world by creating strong holds and communities and setting up some sort of rule/law system in their communities. In my opinion, people who hold up and execute civilians and low end thugs on the streets can't be considered peace bringers i.e Black Tusk.

[@Djungelskog69]

5:37 you can see a teddy bear 🧸 in the right hand side

[@g-b-m5774]

I realy like your content in the division. Have you considered expanding Into a novel perhaps ?

[@Hellfox777]

We have to keep fighting. We can't let everything we've fought for fall just because it's hard

[@FallenKnightXIII]

Some lost casues are worth fighting for.

[@buellersampson3294]

I can't wait for your next videos!

[@carloslinares5704]

They really need to make it where we can choose which faction like black tush, hunters, rogue agents, and etc...or something similar to this

[@devilakemii3372]

No you carrying on and giving your opinion is very important like it really did shed light on what the SHD stand for or how it is a fail plan bc I do take the saying of the division to heart protect what remains no matter the cost but I've been slowly changing my thoughts about it sense I have to really think who can I trust now?

[@jdpowell6405]

Awesome points! My buddies and I have always asked if we were really the "good guys" in the story.

[@slejin4128]

Hope we enjoyed this? You're making us question everything we've done so far! Jokes aside, I love your videos, can't wait for the new one about hunters

[@skau-yeong9191]

"My allegiance is to the Republic, to DEMOCRACY!!?"

[@drewdavalos2746]

You always broaden my mind, but this does make me think, The BTSU kills civilians but also tries to help them, it’s very confusing, love ur work by the way, stay safe in these freakishly similar times to the SHD.

[@NGN]

Hey, that all I aim to achieve with these sort of videos...to get people thinking. ..and thank you. I hope you and your family are staying safe!

[@some_Russian_dude]

Well every time there is a hostage situation they literally have a gun on them. Just saying. I am sure they definitely do sometimes probably for hush hush operations.

[@crippledbox1162]

We may have lost the person we answer to, but that doesn’t mean we have lost our sense of direction, we know our mission, we were designed to be autonomous for a reason. We may have lost people, but no government or military is without traitors and people who become disillusioned. I know that we are doing the right thing. We are the SHD and we will do our job, we will save what remains.

[@kddatrapmane]

The black tusk is the better option because their weapons aren’t nerfed to the ground, no purple loot, heal station are durable, their skills are awesome and armor count for something compared to the SHD bugs, glitches, purple loot and only red build means something even their watch can’t tell them what time it is .... 😂😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Captain_nickisreal]

Bruuhh

[@younghentaii1772]

ITS ABOUT TIME, there is nothing left to save

[@judesanderson4699]

I have wanted to leave since the end of the first game : keener is right, the US is messed up, we are not the gouvernement's ally but it's tool to be thrown away once used.

[@judesanderson4699]

Basicly, as soon as it is possible to permently go rogue viably, i am rogue

[@JS-kr8fs]

It's exactly how the US government treats its military personnel in the real world, but very few soldiers, sailors, airman or Marines go rogue.

[@nehemiahbriseneau8726]

Jude Sanderson a lot of truth I must say

[@proxybishop]

Wonder what is the Rogue equivalent to ISAC that let the Rogue agents continue to use their tech. I remember when we retrieve Keener’s watch, there was a system AI onboard called ANNA. Wonder what was that about.

[@brains4845]

Nah ISAC wasn't programmed by Keener's brother to make us do bad things, he's clearly a Virtual Intelligence sent back through time by Garrus to make sure everything is calibrated in time for the Reaper invasion 😂

[@DeadSpaceWing]

Rogue Agent's words to me are basically "CRAWLING IN MY CRAAAAAAAWLLLL" on loop. And there's no way I can take them seriously. Ever. I mean, who can take an edgelord loot thief with a god complex seriously? Nobody. No one.

[@bizbizzybee7054]

To be honest, The SHD has a good run at the start, it is sad that whoever their ally is who has the same objective as the division, were also the ones that would make a downfall to them.

[@ABCWCTR]

How I read the title: "Is it time to abandon the Division 2?"

[@CheoCascara]

I always wondered about a division 3 game with the ghost recon engine, but you can recruit former rogue agents and have a team, vehicles, helicopters

[@DiGiTMerC]

i mean its fun to gather the SHD cache, with cool toughtful moments or methods. When you got 5/5 SHD cache, you would be get extra loot out of the SHD loot box.

[@xcrimsinx]

In 2001 I worked for a private government contractor, there was another group in DC recruiting for a CBR hotshot team, that would respond to CBR events. I never got their name, but when they told me the pay I laughed, and told them no thanks.

[@Scooterdrew1]

They’ll have to pry the watch from my cold dead hands!! I’m there to protect the citizens and get that sweet loot. Maybe pop a few dogs and deer along the way 😂

[@stewok]

What happened in the mission where Kelso got put down even tho agents have access to all SHD TECH she didnt get herself up I reckon Laura helped her by showing her the truth and even tho kelso is with us I reckon she now has her own agenda that coincides with lau's and eventually she will either go rogue or she will open up to us and this will open up various other stories maybe BTSU will get a hold of ISAC and we will be designated as rogue or an option will open up in the story as a choice

[@MasadaGP]

Another great video dude.. wow.. You should make a movie

[@johnsadventures4675]

All i have to say it. I fucking love this game. Covid times helps in the immersive experience of this game.

[@truenorthgames]

right

[@elliswyche8393]

And yes I feel the division has failed and fallen into a lost cause which would leave me to go to rogue status because what is worth fighting for when we know there's nothing more. I would also probably end up working with keener he is very smart and always one step ahead

[@BoopBink]

Sooo I assume that you didn't see the WONY Ending rrriiiggghhhttt?

[@robobo2226]

Keener would have used you and left you for dead. We never hear Keener mourn for the death of his personal four rogue agents. They were just part of Keener’s plan, nothing more.

[@elliswyche8393]

@@BoopBink yes I did keener ends up dying but we are the only actually skilled agents in d.c we are just doing the divisions dirty work

[@elliswyche8393]

@@robobo2226 correct but we did end up killing keener which mean we have more powerful and better than him

[@killsectrakk]

Even the president went rogue on us so I think It's time to leave the SHD

[@Hanakooh]

(reading the video title...) Day ??? of lockdown. NGN considers defection. XD

[@pyeitme508]

Maybe? First! If abandoned it maybe make a new faction called "The Phoenix's Guardians", sounds good?

[@pyeitme508]

Thanks for the like! So when will u talk about the other characters from Ghost Recon Breakpoint?

[@NGN]

Haha I'll get there...I hope!

[@pyeitme508]

@@NGN cool! Wish u can talk about the fictional weapons in Breakpoint as well.

[@pyeitme508]

@@NGN so how's your babies?

[@NGN]

The older one is booooooored. He wants to go out LOL

[@mioda3109]

I think the story should delve deeper into the Rogue Agents and see more of the ones that arent going around and working for the enemy factions, like Rogues who keep to themselves and are only trying to survive or possibly a Rogue who had to do what they had to in order to save lives. Or even perhaps have our own Agent question whether the Division is failing on what it was set out to do. Theres so much potential behind the Rogues that it only makes me want to see more done with them other than just being a set of villains

[@regriefing1807]

Agreed.

[@stokemoran]

Would be interested in seeing a game mode, where you're an agent right where it picks up from the moment they pulled out of NY and walled up that part of the city in the DZ. Or perhaps make that the "survival" game mode. You're on your own.

[@8trackrecorder]

Love the videos

[@kikie9449]

it’s kinda interesting how the leader of the black tusk in Washington DC has a SHD watch

[@mohamedhammoud3509]

"The strategic homland division is a failed experiment." ... I think you just went rogue bud.

[@kiego797]

NGN you have to remember that even if some agents are rouge agents have gone rouge for most options protecting family , best interests for people (like Kajika staying and being marked as rouge) or even they have given up

[@MoznessK]

Another great vid! What if there was an option to go rogue and gain access to the ai ANNA who has access to different types of skills. That would be so cool.

[@mesner5x]

I think ISAC has a bigger role in the function of the DIvision. It's been referenced heavily in Warlords of New York. I'm wondering if the actions of The Division are all dictated by ISAC and not even the president. As the country is now leaderless, the only force that is driving and assisting the SHD is ISAC.

[@skyvolt2566]

Out of the thousands agents seems there's actually only a few loyal ones left

[@papade0]

Keener’s reasoning was correct. It is his execution that is in question. To many agents reacting for the short term and their own needs. Like America. Aaron Keener took small steps toward a long term goal. VanguardRising looks to achieve the long game.

[@marcusperkins1169]

Imo they should have incorporated to have the option of being Rogue or SHD. Get the feel of what would it be like to play as a Rogue Agent through the story and follow the Acolytes of Keener

[@bleachy625]

Man i just love the vids but quit playing the game but every time you upload i just have to watch to see what new lore you make seem amazing

[@Mylryyt]

From what we've heard in game it's almost like the SHD was being intentionally sabotaged during recruitment. Given the level of power that was going to be given to these agents it would only make sense to give that power to the most hard core boyscouts that can be found. Instead having even a few useful skills was deemed enough of a reason to overlook the fact that someone had all the hallmarks of turning into a full on psychopath should even the slightest thing go wrong.