Is It Worth Building a Dodge Neon Srt-4?

[@racingproductions2199]

400hp+ srt's can beat alot of 500-600hp cars this motors are torque monsters I've seen a 700hp srt beat a 1000hp corvette from a roll

[@NoTraction]

+racing productions I agree! Srt4s generally tend to be at least 800-1000lbs lighter than most cars, which helps a lot! Srt4's are definitely no joke!

[@Paul_AstroEsthetics_]

Drop $200 and you can get boost by gear to hold traction through 1st and 2nd ;) Stock fuel rail works just fine. No need to upgrade that. I'm pushing almost 500hp stock bottom end, stock rail with 130k on it, haha. Then again I take care of my shit, haha.

[@NoTraction]

+paul duch very true. The problem is that alot of people don't take care of their stuff and dont bother to do it right haha

[@VennyCardenas]

I have a 300hp stock turbo neon; my brother has a 500hp running on stock internals. These blocks are rock solid mate. With proper maintenance you can easily have a 500+hp daily. I know from experience. Good video

[@bigwillchill]

NSRT4s are pretty awesome out the box. my bros 2005 made 238whp and 262wtq stock. after an intake, exhaust, bigger intercooler, tuned ecm, waste gate/bov, turbo is pushing 18-20psi instead of the stock 12-15psi and other non hp mods, wider better tires, bigger radiator, bigger brakes etc... now it makes 286whp and 311wtq it used to spin all 1st and half of 2nd and would run like 6sec 0-60 mostly because of traction. and 14sec 1/4 mile after some wider wheels and summer tires and sticky sticky rubber, and mods, now it does right under 5sec 0-60 and near 12 sec runs. it can still spin all 1st and 2nd but you have wayyyyyyyy more traction. he beats almost any stock sporty car on the street. m3s, c5 corvettes, 5.0 mustangs, camaros, anything with ~450 hp and down he can beat. keep in mind the car only weighs 2800lbs. Half the cars out there weigh over 3200lbs. mustangs weigh 3500-3800lbs that's 1000lbs heavier than the NSRT4 he gets good mpgs and u can haul the whole family. a/c, good stock sound system. the ride is a bit stiff but. meh.. the interior sucks but mehh .. people bag on NSRT4s cuz they're still a neon but mehh. it'll still spank u lol

[@NoTraction]

That's Awesome! They are definitely fun little cars for the money! You can make them pretty fast with just bolt ons like you mentioned. Also, I definitely agree your opinion on the interior, but to be fair, there aren't many great interiors around this time period, unless you spent double the amount of money on a vehicle

[@bigwillchill]

No Traction you're right. even import cars around the 2000s were pretty crappy. my focus has a better interior lol but I only have 160hp and 146tq at the crank soo I'm jealous AF We're living in the best car era ever so enjoy it before gasoline engines become illegal

[@largos7289]

with the traction you have to replace all the mounts with solid ones, every mount. Most just do the upper and lower, the trans mount has to be done too. Then if you can the A-arms replace the bushing with an insert. It's almost like a rear wheel drive car at that point.

[@njshift]

The more you modify a car the more potential problems may occur. That's pretty much the rule of thumb for any car. Fwd isn't the best choice for going fast but it can still be done. Not everyone wants to build a rwd v8 or awd import. The obscurity of the srt4 is what makes it so unique.

[@ftcfolife1975]

Mine is built straight for race from the previous owner, which knew exactly what he was doing as it's a 544 hp and still has wheel spin until you switch into 3rd gear. Also has absolutely no gear slip

[@NoTraction]

+The Fruit Loop buying from someone who knew what they're doing helps a TON! Alot of people buy these hacked up by previous owners and then complain that they are "unreliable"

[@SN95SVT]

No Traction couldn't agree more. got lucky enough to get a 1 owner all stock with 77k a few years ago. seen plenty of these cars that have been hacked by multiple people only to hear that they are "unreliable"

[@JPort561]

I feel what you’re saying man making some realistic points

[@rooh5825]

The statement "If you are going over 500 horsepower, you'll need to upgrade the internals on the engine" as part of the question "is it worth building" is rather funny, considering that you wouldn't find another car remotely close to the SRT's class that would survive much beyond 350 hp. The idea that somehow 500 hp is "low" in terms of what the internals can hold is ignorant. That's a very high number compared to most 4 cylinder engines.

[@burnz3132]

I wanna get my hands on the ACR edition. I had a buddy who had a copper colored one he was pushing over 600+ with a 2.6 stroker. It was a beast!!!

[@enginemodify]

the srt engine is tiny. and is a torque box . I have an sti, but would love to take a stock srt4 for a spin if I get the chance

[@rafaeltorres2886]

I bought one new back in 2004 and poured a ton of money into it.. best thing you can do is get a tune dsp tuner w injectors, 3bar map sensor new better clutch, motor mounts ,dcr billet clutch rod, short shifter, and the best pressure pipes you can buy. And that's it. Hehehe have fun..

[@andruerendon159]

A dig means from a stop....

[@NoTraction]

Andrue Rendon ik lol. I accidently said that, I just didnt re upload the video for that one mistake

[@A92CB7]

Andrue Rendon I scrolled through the comments just to see if some corrected him😂

[@vulcanpilot-go7dj]

Andrue Rendon I was hoping someone else caught this..

[@theculturemedia2358]

You made some good a concerning points there man.. Thanks for your thoughts 👍

[@jcclark9167]

I have had two love them my first was an 04 solar yellow my second was an 04 electric blue.... both heavily modded but what your saying about traction is somewhat true with the srt.... alot more in getting traction....

[@thorrzyro]

I have a 2004 neon, pure stock , wish i could get a crate engine for it, gotta learn stick first, i love the car though its my first car, we call it a tic tac because the previous owners spray painted it bright orange

[@ItsUrBoiMathias]

Commander Skink Literally my situation! Just bought a 04 SRT4 and need to learn stick and its my first car haha

[@HooligansMx]

This guy is not lying about traction tho and from personal experience I'd tour going to have anything over 300hp in one of these definitely invest in drag radials if your street racing otherwise you will not get a bit of traction I watched a buddy eat the median on the interstate on his way home from buying his car because the previous owner thru the stocks back on and the car had 402hp he spun going into fourth and lost it cant stress enough that these cars are extremely torquey

[@charlieryan1736]

Glad I found your channel just subscribed

[@TrevorTheBowler]

I think this car would be nice with a conversion from FWD to either RWD or AWD. A lot of money but with the torque and power options I mean it would probably make this thing a roll monster and a drag monster.

[@pllumajsgarages9149]

But a turbo Honda is any better?

[@kevinwebster9715]

I think only people that own one or have owned one. I had a 2004 srt4 and I loved it and would get another to build in a heart beat.

[@ZaipexJr]

bws with elbo mod, and dusters e85 package, a bigger intercooler, intake. 350whp 450wtq plenty of reliability. $1500

[@NoTraction]

+Marshall Loyd bigger injectors? Tuner? 3inch exhaust? It'll nickle and dime you forsure. For the money they're great cars to build, but 1500 is a bit on the low end imo . 350hp is really pushing it with a stock Turbo with no work too

[@ZaipexJr]

A bws is a bigger turbine wheel with port work done to it. A perfered company is turbo bay. They even made 380whp and 460wtq on there bws w/ an external waste gate set up. But reguardless man they are great cars to own, and still love mine after 2 years.

[@ShansonLife]

I have Michelin pilot super sport tires (pretty much the best tire u can get) on my SRT4 and when I floor it at the light the wheels start to spin? How do I get rid of this problem, will wider tires help? I currently have 225/45/17

[@NoTraction]

+ShansonLife wider tires definitely help! I'm unfamiliar with those tires, but having a softer rubber generally helps too. But when taking off hard from a stop, you're more than likely gonna spin regardless unless you limit your boost or have slicks

[@mrtreejunkie]

Boost by gear will solve the spinning from a roll and from a dig it will help I push 385HP in my srt4 and it's really fun and a very nice car. If you wanna be fast and cheap go get a eg/ek coupe or hatch plus Ebay turbo kit and have fun even with a SOHC or swap it lol you gotta know your shit and take car of it too be cheap and fast lol

[@geoff0707]

they are a bitch to keep traction. I had a 50 trim e85 srt4 and would light the tires from 1st to 3rd. That was on shitty used street tires lol. But I did fix the problem by getting a boost box from n2mb so i ran boost by gear and had toyo r888 in the front (best daily tire for traction imo). Would only spin 1st gear and only slightly spin in 2nd and dead hook 3rd. This was all at around 450whp

[@lSWAGGlxL]

geoff0707 hey man im planning on buying a srt 4 this month anything i should look out for? And what should be my first upgrades?

[@geoff0707]

First make sure the car doesnt have any boost leaks because that can be a pain to find where its coming from sometimes. My srt4 was an 03 I HIGHLY suggest you get an 03 because it has a better tranny than the 04 and 05. The 04/05 does have lsd but are more prone to third gear problems. My buddies stock 05 srt4 had a 3rd gear grind while mines was perfect. As for upgrades go to google and search "Srt4 upgrade path" Pick the first one and it will literally tell you everything you need to do for the car from maintenance all the way to how to get over 300whp. These cars are a lot of fun and I still miss mine till this very day! oh and btw definitely get a wot box from n2mb that is a must have for this car

[@lSWAGGlxL]

geoff0707 Alright , Thanks for the advice !

[@ShansonLife]

My tires spin on SRT4 when I floor it, would wider tires help?

[@brookelykins4705]

You out of your mind dude you can get a PTE 5431 kit for 1600 from ATP, to get to low 400-425hp maybe 2500 3 at the most, my friend has one as well on a base tune from duster with injectors and fuel pump on e85 spiking 24-25 psi and it made 337

[@NoTraction]

You are somewhat correct. However you are forgetting supporting mods that add up fast. Injectors, fuel pump prob return line, tuner, the tune, 3inch exhaust all the way back, upgraded clutch cuz stock will not hold, I think that turbo needs a reducer... if you leave intake at the same spot. prob a cold air intake if you went with all the above. I am sure I'm missing some small things.. Can you do it cheaper than I mention? Yes. Can you do it correctly, if you know what you are doing and scavage sales and used parts? Yes. But the avg person will be in it MUCH more than 1600. People often underestimate what it truely costs to build a car. You need all these mods to make 400+ on a stock engine. How do I know? Cuz I have a neon that has a built engine and makes that power level now

[@juanpablorevellescandel9080]

What's the name of the rings??

[@tito04srt4]

just big turbo it it will be as reliable as a stock one and you can boost by gear it so you have traction and you'll beat a lot of cars on the road especially if e85 is available in your area get a good tune watch your knock and afr and have fun also don't power shit the car and your trans will last a long time let the engine do the work

[@whitesperformance1402]

5k to make 400whp is crazy literally buy a EBay turbo eBay cast iron manifold good name brand waste gate 255 fuel pump bigger injectors eBay front mount and a good dyno Tune and you can easy make around 400 if not more for under 2k

[@JustFixinGarage]

First off I like the video. I myself am doing a 700+hp build. Itll be on my channel. Im doing it the right way from the ground up and yes its very expensive but thats relative . You could go pretty cheap and get 4-500 HP once you go above that the internals need fixed up. Do you still have this Neon?

[@NoTraction]

That’s awesome! I’ll have to check it out once you get it uploaded. I sold this one, but instantly missed it and bought another one. 3-4 years ago. It is in much better shape, and the engine has already been gone through, so financially it worked out. I make right around 400hp, if I had to guess, on a VERY conservative tune. I have everything to make more, just need to switch over to e-85/race fuel and upgrade the turbo. Currently running a s256 on it. Too many ideas/projects and just not enough time these days

[@JustFixinGarage]

@@NoTraction that’s awesome these things are becoming harder to find that aren’t clapped out

[@NoTraction]

You’re telling me! I remember when I bought my first one back in 2013-14, you could find a bunch on CL/market place. Now everything I see is rust bucket lol. I foresee these cars starting to climb more in value pretty soon, especially for something clean and well done or stock

[@JustFixinGarage]

@@NoTraction mine isn’t even super clean I need to do rockers . Granted all neons will need it at some point . It’s pretty bad but 100% fixable .

[@Armurp01]

What lowering springs are you using?

[@lilmatt760]

Hey bro I've been looking into getting a Neon. I just want one that's reliable and I don't plan on crazy modding. What should I look for, what should I avoid. I pretty much want to own it till the wheels fall off.

[@NoTraction]

Ivan Arturo Alvarado definitely avoid rust. It's like cancer and hard to stop. Also 3rd gear can be an issue with these, make sure that it doesn't grind shifting up to it or down to it. The lower the miles, and closer to stock, the less likely it is to be beat on or a lemon. If it built, make sure it was done right. Lastly, even though this is an easier fix, sometimes the axles in these cars go out from launching them. Make sure the car drives snooth. Best of Luck to you, they're fun cars!

[@NoTraction]

Ivan Arturo Alvarado definitely avoid rust. It's like cancer and hard to stop. Also 3rd gear can be an issue with these, make sure that it doesn't grind shifting up to it or down to it. The lower the miles, and closer to stock, the less likely it is to be beat on or a lemon. If it built, make sure it was done right. Lastly, even though this is an easier fix, sometimes the axles in these cars go out from launching them. Make sure the car drives snooth. Best of Luck to you, they're fun cars!

[@charliesmith7942]

U need like 225 tires at a minimum and a like 200 tredware performance summer tire to get traction. Of course summer time never gunna happen in early spring or late fall

[@joeroy3842]

my sti gets totaled out in about a week (really bummed) and ive been looking at one that a friend in Longmont has.On a gtx3076 making 450/485. whats your opinion on the car though? worth the cash coming from someone with an sti?

[@NoTraction]

Joe Roy Sorry to hear man, but glad you're okay! Its definitely still a neon, there are some parts that feel cheap about it . But if the car was done right, I'm sure you'll enjoy it! that's a lot of power too, so traction will be an issue with fwd. If you can get over that, they're great cars! they're reliable when taken care of and built right. they're also stupid light, and there's a very good aftermarket community for there

[@7Logik]

Joe Roy get it they're good cars

[@evannarvais]

Joe Roy sup joe u in longmont co? i just aquired an srt4 lookin for some groups in the CO area. and some shops that work on them. thanks

[@GlycerinZ]

@Evan I live in Aurora, let's race sometime!

[@prestonwingfield6502]

Glycerin what u drive

[@pranks8053]

like 800 just to change to e85 with a tune if you have a tuner already easy get you to high 300's

[@NoTraction]

*tuner is 400, injectors are 400. Then add tune. A Little more than 800. Also you would need more supporting mods to make high 300's on a stock turbo

[@Redmerkur]

pranksallday.tv tuner is more like $200 you don't have to have a Trinity you can get 1025 cc injectors and a email tune for around $200 easy these cars are cheap speed

[@HooligansMx]

My buddy out 6500 into his with top of the line parts inside and out and hes at 650 it all depends how you build it only reason hed at 650 is his turbo a bigger turbo which I believe hes doing soon he will have the fastest srt4 in the country these are no different than building a Honda except for the fact that you already have a turbo platform to go off of so it's easier

[@CraigBrosRacing]

He's gonna have to to waaaaay better than 650 if he's gonna be fastest anything mine has 700 and isn't in the top ten in the country....try 800 to a 1000 then he might crack top ten fastest srt4s in the nation but not likely bro... brutal speed and tunings red one runs 8s in a 1/4...that's the fastest in the country at the moment.....

[@joeypeters1987]

Im building one now. Im already 7500 into it and that was for a decked block and rotating assembly. Wish i knew that the previous owner fucked up everything lol.

[@NoTraction]

joeypeters1987 sorry to hear man! at least you're getting her going though! you never know what previous owners have done until you really get into it!

[@GlycerinZ]

damn, I'm only 4 grand into my Trans Am

[@NoTraction]

Glycerin yeah it adds up fast man

[@GlycerinZ]

All I added to mine were headers. Everything else came stock, except previous owners added slotted rotors. Has T56 6-speed, T-Tops, LT1 V8.. plus the car looks great. And I love RWD. Like you said, might as well do up a turbo LS.

[@rvaughn1131]

Yup, might as well! I had the same struggle on whether or not to build my '93 T/A that I drove all throughout HS. In the end, I knew I would rather ls swap it, instead of dumping that money in an LT1...which if you're spending that money, might as well just buy a newer LS car.

[@F30__Zay]

Yo thanks a lot man . This answered so many of my questions I'm in the same dilemma right now . I don't know if I should buy an srt 4 or an older wrx for the same price . I love the neons, sound beautiful, quick and light but I wasn't sure if the traction problem would stop me from making decent power as opposed to the AWD wrx

[@NoTraction]

izaiah feliciano one thing to consider too is insruance! I am under 25 with a clean record in the US, and insurance for a bug eye wrx was double a month almost compared to a srt4. Also, if you decide to go thr srt4 route try to find a clean one, even if it's more expensive, it will pay off in the long! Good luck!

[@murxd4632]

izaiah feliciano you’re going to spend a lot more money trying to make a wrx 400 hp

[@christiancatalano5880]

Where are you located? I'm around the new suburbs of chicago

[@wilfredozabala5616]

n2mb boostbox= traction

[@dustintodd1006]

I built one, definitely not worth it. It will always be fwd so anything over 350whp is just pointless. I have a stock engine stage 3 turbo car now and its much nicer to drive

[@NoTraction]

I agree. I also had a friend who had a stock turbo that had a few mods and he preferred it over his current big turbo set up for the street.

[@josehulk8900]

Hello I have a 2004 srt4 with 85k I want to know what I need to build a stage 3 for my car. Who knows.....

[@joshuapainter6979]

@@josehulk8900 andysautosport.com has everything you need.

[@teneriall]

I had one with 500whp stock internals gt3076 0 lag with just meth and tune I can said was my best car for race I have camaro ss, bmw 135fbo nissan 350z nitro the car always have leaks but after fix the race nice again faster than bikes 600, shelbys, zl1 I paid for the car 6,000us

[@miguelescorza6785]

where in il r u I'm in Woodstock

[@NoTraction]

+Miguel Escorza Oh cool! I'm actually a lot closer to iowa

[@mtbbikersurbanoexploracion6906]

nice car dodge neon srt-4

[@HooligansMx]

My srt4 is at 450 and that was for 2500 it is not hard to get these cars to 400's it's really not you dont have to buy a precision or garret turbo there are decent ebay kits look at Kyle's hatch from boostedboiz

[@AnthonyHernandez_2A]

Is it worth building any car? It's all a labor of love. U never get the money back. Its always the better option to build the car from the ground up. I'd never buy a built car for the simple fact that if you build your own you know exactly what's in it and most importantly you know what's not.

[@NoTraction]

This x1000. Normally you don't get back what you put into a car. But when you put so much work into one, it almost becomes a symbol of who you are. Buying a built car may be cheaper, but you just don't have the stories and pride you get from building your own

[@PATKRO]

They are so ez and cheap to mod idk why anyone wouldnt build one compared to other cars

[@kb380M]

And they dont break easy they are very reliable

[@charliesmith5545]

To get traction at over 350 HP your gunna need really sticky tires, and that will give you shit gas milage on a daily basis. There's a reason these cars are best under 300 HP. Practicality.

[@NoTraction]

True! Or boost by gear!

[@charliesmith5545]

@@NoTraction I've owned two of these now since 2017. I've learned that people get caught up in the hype of big power numbers. A Mopar S3 or bws is probably the best bet. The money, reliability, and practical goes out the window when you start going past 400 HP

[@NoTraction]

I agree! I wouldnt say reliablility goes out the door. Money though, that's another story lol. I've had about 400 hp (but engine was built) and havent had any engine/turno issues in 4 years. The real problem is these cars are so cheap that people get into them and dont do things the right way. It's like that triangle. Pick two: hp, cheap, reliable

[@charliesmith5545]

@@NoTraction exactly. People who own these cars buy them because they don't have alot of money to start with. Thus shortcuts

[@08corollaxrsswap88]

2zz swap it

[@azzazel_99]

Lmfao $3,000 for a turbo kit? Wtf? You’re smoking drugs

[@charliesmith5545]

Go to modern and and buy it all new, takes, delivery. Yes. Well over 2,000.00

[@charliesmith5545]

Taxes rather

[@dontrustwhiteyevery1]

Neons have shit drive belts. Once It snaos, motor is gone...

[@NoTraction]

That's more so common maintance. If you replace them every 80k like you're suppose to. You shouldn't have an issue. Most higher hp set ups are interference engines

[@budsworld71]

I stay not to far from you. ..im st.louis

[@CptMalding]

William Gladden Ayeee. Same. Lmao

[@MrIhavedonuts]

Me too

[@notone4029]

Srt 4's suck tried to tell my friend who just bought one. Waste of time

[@NoTraction]

Not One It depends generally on how they have been up kept. Sorry that he is having issues! There are definitely some lemons out there

[@rooh5825]

You can ignore this douche, he's a Honda boi. This is the typical butt hurt response from a Honda boi who gets his ass handed to his oil leaking black smoke spewing 1992 Civic, so he comes online to talk smack on a car he'll never own or beat.