Is it worth buying E70 BMW X5 M in 2021?

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In this video we will try to answer if it's worth buying E70 X5M in 2021 and how much is it actually cost to keep this car maintained and running properly. What are the major issues you might face and how much it costs to fix them.
Thank you for watching

[@evanlou628]

Thanks for the most fantastic review I ever read about X5M

[@Zeiten]

Glad to hear it👍

[@b00tiki65]

Lost me at V8 M 🤣 Anxiety when you mentioned 2 turbos, and full fledge panic attack when you said three water pumps 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I stick with my 11 X5 E70 35i. Love the videos. Can't wait to see more N55 content 💪

[@Zeiten]

😂😂 thanks, definitely will be shooting valve cover gasket on n55 whenever we’ll have a chance😉

[@jonasbaine3538]

justified fear. aftermarket warranty required, just like every other M car unfortunately.

[@Eidrian111]

@@jonasbaine3538 nah. Apart from the ocasional fuel injector mine has been solid. I have 6 years and 90k miles on mine.

[@juanvh30]

@@Zeiten great videos and information now I have a problem I have a 2011 X5 gasoline rod knock fail and question is the 2011 engine from 335i compatible for my X5 ? Thanks and take care

[@Zeiten]

Technically yes, oil pan is different but you can keep your, spots for motor mounts might differ but bolt holes are there

[@davidross145]

This was awesome. Thanks for sharing.

[@carloslarry1012]

Excelent review ! Thanks for all the info

[@Zeiten]

🙌

[@bobmach8844]

DID i MISS IN Your video explanation of overheating issue with twin turbos located in the V of the v8 engine or a (n) impossible mod for it? I have a 13 35d...

[@Jetsrockful]

I want to just say you have helped me work on my car so much and gave me a ton of motivation to do my own stage 2 turbo install and oil pan gasket in my 2010 335i n54. Thank you, please keep up the videos. I would like to know how you started as a bmw tech and how long it took to get so good? I was able to install new turbos and oil pan gasket thanks to your videos help!

[@Jetsrockful]

It was so dope to see you did oil pan gasket without removing the subframe while on the fking street... I felt lucky in my garage lol. You videos also helped me replace my serpentine belt, oil filter housing and cooler gasket, as well valve cover gasket. I can’t thank you enough. Your videos deserve way more views

[@Zeiten]

Thank you, i’ve been fixing bmws for over a decade, started as a hobby taking apart bmw I bought and since then hands on experience and lots of learning through technical documents etc, KZbin wasn’t a thing back then

[@gjkMN]

BMW kept this engine a long time, a testament to how good they think it is. Gives me confidence in buying.

[@hyeprofile]

I'm an aerospace engineering and I own a '12 X5M E70 with an S63, and I can tell you it's the worse engineered engine I've ever seen on any car. Sure it gives out 555HP and lots of torque when it runs properly, but in 3 years I've practically replaced everything on that engine and parts keep failing. Everything is in triple, and putting those turbos in the hot vee section with all those cheap plastic hoses around that section makes it a disaster in terms or reliability.

[@gjkMN]

@@hyeprofile I'm a real estate broker and own a cayenne turbo, and wish it was a turbo x5M. If you're gonna fix on things, fix on things you like.

[@Kinghavs]

Lol.. buy one if u want ptsd caused by a bmw chime 😂.. all real bmw owners know.. having had both n54/ n55 motors i can only imagine the repair bills for this..

[@gjkMN]

@@Kinghavs I did. Now I have an n55 and an n63. Buy a Honda if you can't fix stuff.

[@frankiegaul8261]

@@Kinghavs which is better if I’m keeping power pretty close to stock and just remapping for an exhaust…

[@carpenter2410ify]

Awesome review ! Love the honesty,it is still 100% on my list.All the best from sydney,Australia.

[@Zeiten]

Thank you for watching 👍

[@wolfe8372]

I've got a 2010 X5 e70 30d waiting for me to get my P's but this lockdown shit has got me waiting anotther month

[@carpenter2410ify]

@@wolfe8372 I feel ya pain mate. It's absolute rubbish times and not getting better any time soon 😩 Hang in there man ☮️

[@wolfe8372]

@@carpenter2410ify Makes me upset man..i just sat in it just then listening to music for an hour lol

[@carpenter2410ify]

@@wolfe8372 That's all good brother, I always go to music in good and the bad times 🙏

[@petercantremember253]

Hello Tim Good honest presentation , that is a beast of a machine and in the all black looks superb , if l was 30 years younger l would also choose the "M" but now l am an old bastard l will putt around in the 06 diesel. It will be sad to see these crazy powered cars in years to come will be a thing of the past when electric cars get more and more popular but hey that's progress. So Tim l hope your studying up on how to repair "E" cars..once again great vlog mate..keep them coming and stay safe mate!!

[@Zeiten]

Thanks, cars that are made today will be around for another 20 years at least😁 so there is plenty of work for me even though I don’t plan to keep fixing cars for the rest of my life, gotta progress too😉

[@petercantremember253]

@@Zeiten Go for the top job in the USA one day...Campaign "Tim for President of USA in 2040" :D

[@Zeiten]

😂😂 never gonna happen😂

[@Governorg]

Very good review. Thank you for your informative video.

[@Zeiten]

Happy to be helpful👍

[@DEEuroworks]

Great review. Worth mentioning that X5M has X6 headlights. I would consider getting one over my 35i E70, O don’t even mind the S63, but I do mind getting the ZF6, the ZF8 in 35i feels sooo much better. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@obrienwejuli4804]

Am impressed with your explanations and you have made it easy for me, how ever you didn't talk about the fuel consumption thanks Obrien Wejuli Nairobi

[@WolfPack.F80Ray]

BMW’s have crappy Fuel Economy, on top of that this is a M so it’s pure performance. Performance and good fuel consumption don’t mix.

[@surreaLinnovatioN]

It's actually not bad, I get 16-19 mpg on the highway depending on if you're doing 70 or 90+ . It's better or just as good as any other big truck, but you actually good hp and brakes to match. It does have a smallish 20 gal tank but it usually outlasts bladders at ab 330-360miles between fill ups anyway.

[@warriorsf911]

Nice review. What about the valve steam seals needing upgrading?

[@Zeiten]

Thanks, i did talk about it, major issue for those cars and almost all of them have it

[@mediocreman2]

The batteries in the remotes with Comfort Access don't drain if you don't put them in the slot, because they don't charge like the normal remotes.

[@DeeD898]

Great video, was all keen until you said 3 water pumps and having had to replace 1 on a BMW before I started sweating thinking about how much this would cost me

[@TheCarlious]

I’m sold. I’m following and subscribing to you.

[@bimmersandars9221]

I have a 2011 x5 with 152,000 miles with a jb4 and upgraded turbos it's around 550 hp. It's super easy to work on i had replaces my turbos myself 1st time but it's not a 2 day job unless you really know what you're doing but if I can most guys can. Up next decatting the cats to get close to 600hp 😁

[@CoachVFitness]

i have the same bmw... how are things now?

[@bimmersandars9221]

@CoachVFitness it's running okay. Jb4 randomly stopped working. And i think I'm going to need to replace the fuel injectors soon, and those aren't cheap.

[@micks7655]

Use 3.0 diesel v 6 , just regular maintenance, oil, filters.. just be careful what kind of diesel you use, add additives for diesel " liquy moly" for clean injectors...

[@Redfoxx204]

You can also tell by the headlights shape. X5M is pointed towards the back, standard is more angled

[@bobronson5049]

Dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you're stoned like me during the covid times you can watch pretty much all the latest series on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my gf for the last few weeks =)

[@moisesdante7349]

@Bo Bronson Yup, I've been using Instaflixxer for months myself =)

[@tommyvercettygt]

In europe they're for sale at around 30k euros

[@hottiemcscottie5952]

I didn't know the e70 came with cooled and massaged seats, were these available options back than or the owner upgraded it from f10 and f02 seats ??

[@Zeiten]

Those are standard

[@luismartins8430]

Forgot mentioned the headlights as they're different compared with none M models

[@fausela]

Im buying one this weekend. Do you have anymore DIY videos?

[@Zeiten]

No diys on this one yet, but there are some similar videos like water pump replacement on n63 pretty much the same on this one and that video is on the channel, although if you will have any future questions you can ask here i’ll assist as much as i can

[@battlehrfred]

Excellent Presentation as always and in detail info!! 100-100

[@Zeiten]

Thank you👍

[@Zeiten]

Hey there, p-codes are not specific but seems like you have an air leak somewhere, check charge pipe and vacuum lines first

[@battlehrfred]

@@Zeiten Hi Tim.Yes Sir will do, I will, thank you for great input and you immediate response. thanking you Sir!!

[@Zeiten]

Happy to help🙌

[@battlehrfred]

Also,BTW, What type/Best Brand, of portable plugin Reader computer can i buy from Amazon to read the codes myself ty Sir

[@bbbbojangles2737]

Definitely a great car for a different wallet. I picked up a X1 35i. Maybe a bit over priced. I could have negotiated but I felt that the car was ok.

[@Zeiten]

What’s bmw doing best is 6 cyl engines😉

[@akane742]

My buddy has one. Turbos are out now. Not the first problem either

[@paulvarrieur976]

It was 2014 before the X5M received the 8 speed transmission.

[@anthonyortega3064]

Hi Tim, I have 2008 BMW X5 3.0si with 4 zone climate control. About to replace the water pump & thermostat. Should I remove the fan & pull out from top or from under. Recommendations much appreciated

[@Zeiten]

Yes, remove the fan, check our video for water pump replacement on x6, same procedure on your x5

[@anthonyortega3064]

Thanks for the quick response Tim, you’re the the man 👍🏼👍🏼

[@anthonyortega3064]

Just watched your video on the x6. Thanks again. I get the parts on Tuesday. I’ve been following your channel for almost a year now. You’ve save me big bucks $$. I respect & appreciate what you do. This world needs more people like yourself. Rain of blessings Tim.

[@Zeiten]

Thank you, more videos are coming😉

[@RegoTVs]

how was the DIY job?

[@faBian6114]

I have the 2012 e70 35D and it has 122k on it been a wonderful fast family car with no major issues I was worried about the v8s having the rod bearing issues that many bmw v8s have anyone have a V8? Any problems yet?

[@charleschenhua]

I second that, I have the exact same car and its been great

[@cuymathis5779]

@@charleschenhua i third that. Love my diesel

[@capincrunch1184]

Can you do a video intake manifold gaskets for bmw328i

[@Zeiten]

What year?

[@capincrunch1184]

@@Zeiten 2011

[@capincrunch1184]

@@Zeiten been watching some of your videos and I can honestly say the way you explain them is way better than anybody else on KZbin

[@Zeiten]

Check the video for starter replacement on e90, when intake manifold removed just replace those o-rings and that’s it

[@capincrunch1184]

@@Zeiten I found the video thank you

[@elviscedenoworldtv3989]

The headlights are different than in a regular x5

[@Dilligaf_Josh]

Didn’t buy the x5, seller must have gotten cold feet and didn’t show up. I’m looking at a 2012 BMW X1, do you recommend those? It’s got the 3.0 Turbo Engine

[@Zeiten]

I personally don’t recommend x1 since it’s a bit lower quality of a bmw but the best version is with 6 cylinder turbo, 4 cylinder I don’t recommend at all

[@Dilligaf_Josh]

@@Zeiten you definitely know what you are talking about bro. Went to see it and the interior really is lackluster and all plastic. Materials seem cheap and the engine was too noisy. It was the 3.0 version; but still not impressed. Thanks for the help!

[@ImpasteNexus]

im so confused between x5m x70 and an F15 x5 i want a new daily i live in mountains (and snow) an M50 f15 is alot more then 30k so might gonna go with a crazy e70 for few years idk.

[@freddyperezjr9872]

i have a f10 550 thinking of trading for one of these looks fantastic with 100k miles but idk if i should

[@ahmedfahmy3237]

what about X6 2013 E71 35i is it worth buying in 2021 nowadays?

[@Zeiten]

Check the review of e70 x5 on the channel, x6 is basically the same car, in short yes it’s worth it

[@lawrenceneech9517]

The only other thing I recall being a disappointment on this car is the sound. It doesn’t sound right and that is because of the exhaust manifold. For some reason bmw did make the manifold pipes all the same length 😢 and that affects the sound coming out at the exhausts. It doesn’t have the v8 sound. Why? I’m not even sure you can fix/change it due to the space? No idea.

[@surreaLinnovatioN]

A simple X pipe fixes it. Unfortunately it does have that overlapped 4 banger sound at revs. With a muffler delete at warmup and idle is sounds like a beast.

[@TheMillsmac]

I'm currently in negotiations to buy a 2011 X5M with 31,000 kms on it. The only reason I'm really considering it is because of the low milage. Just wondering how much of these common issues I could expect to run into with a low milage and well serviced example.

[@Zeiten]

Impossible to predict obviously lower the mileage lower the chance of any issue but remember that time takes its toll too on seals and any rubber component, get inspection anyway

[@Whizzer_]

@myles Did you get it? I looked at a 2011 X5M with 35km on it today...

[@akane742]

Did u get it

[@surreaLinnovatioN]

The super low miles would actually concern me more than regular light usage. I have 108k miles / 173km and just got back from a 2300 mile road trip. No other M holds 450 lbs of kids and luggage better. Gets better mileage than a Tahoe which makes half of the power

[@lugabull]

@@akane742 i dont think so

[@lilmayii]

Do you recommend buying the BMW x5 xdrive 35i from 2009 to 2012 around 100 to 150k km, the price in my country is around 9k to 12k dollars? Would it be a good investment for my first car?

[@Zeiten]

That would be not investment but liability just as well as any other car in that price range, check out other older video on this channel about e70 x5, i go in detail there about years and everything else

[@lilmayii]

@@Zeiten thx bless Bro my dream Car Is a BMW I'm on the police school and i got stability for this i think, i go to the video

[@Zeiten]

Anytime😉

[@danieljohn6781]

Did u get the car?

[@gerardmackenzie5686]

Well bought mine last month for 15k 2011, added downpipes i love it, you forgot to mentioned that sucker swallows gas!!!

[@Zeiten]

It sure does waste gas a lot😁

[@andyor3114]

Nice car. But for me will be easier to put supercharge on my qx70. And it be more reliable

[@PoweredbyJESUS7]

Try 0-60 mph in 4.0-4.3. Not sure where he came up with 4.7 not a single major car review source says 4.7.

[@matreyia]

headlights are different than normal e70 fyi.

[@djzaki]

I owned one for 6 months and sold it. Drove it home from buying it and blew a vacuum line.. Replaced it and a month later blew another. Changed all vacuum lines. As well as one rear air shock. I then realized auxiliary turbo pump stopped working and replaced it. After doing all this, i got reduced power malfunction on full throttle. At this point i sold it. I suspect i needed coils and spark plugs. Worst case scenario injectors. Car had 60,000 miles so it was imminent to change all. Expect paying 1800 for sparks and coils. Injectors over 2,000. If you can wrench yourself great! But if not, definitely not a car you need Now i own a g63 amg. So far so good lol. Fingers crossed 🤣

[@hyeprofile]

I've also replaced vacuum and coolant lines, the aux turbo water pump, and one fuel injector, and at 165,000km it still gives me issues once in a while. It's a $$$ pit for sure, but definately fun to drive when everything's running top notch...

[@djzaki]

@@hyeprofile what's funny is right after I sold it the buy did spark plugs, injectors, brakes, the other rear air shock, the thermostat, and some other things to a grand total of like 10-15 k worth of work. Upgraded the turbos and he's pushing over 70p hp. Then says... he's just waiting for the engine to detonate. I'm like wth hahah.

[@GrandSavrify]

I just bought a 2009 X6M for the V8 roar, it got a broken vacuum, coil, rear air bags and spark plugs. I'm still waiting for parts now hopefully nothing bad on the turbo pump and other components.

[@hyeprofile]

Just to give you an idea of how much trouble these beasts give you: it's been two months since my last post, and I've had to replace the main water pump too (the pump cost me CAD$300 and I did it myself, and I replaced the thermostat and belt while I was at it for an extra CAD$200, but it took me 4 hours to do!), rear left air bag (CAD$200 for a decent one, since original German one costs CAD$700!), and starter (it's a bitch to get to and you need to support the engine to remove the engine mount so it's difficult to do yourself). I also replaced the rear brake pads since they were due (Original Brembo pads were on special at Canadian Tire 😁 at CAD$90, and I bought the brake sensor wires from Amazon for CAD$16). @GrandSavrify you can get jobber rear air bags for CAD$70 on Amazon: www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FBJWYBZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_i_HY9HP7D0HHXXQ6ZPPRYK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[@dailybible5426]

@@hyeprofile still own it?

[@harley22x]

Those coolant lines are like $40 worth of hoses, some clamps, and an hour of time.

[@surreaLinnovatioN]

Exactly, unlike Nathan's garage using BMW price/hose logic to justify turning a 100$ fix into 2500 lol

[@greggregorich8048]

16:00

[@thecynicalafro160]

The headlights are a different shape. Same as the X6 same generation

[@EvilX5M]

Hard choice E70 is like $22K for 70k mi, but the F85 is like $43k for 80k mi in 2023. But the looks of that F85 are amazing. BMW knows how to make a car upgrade for sure. Very hard choice, even still.

[@surreaLinnovatioN]

It was easier for me to go with the half priced option and save the rest for later mods although the dash readouts are annoying, but with the headsup and screen upgrade it kinda took away a lot of the reasons to go with the 2015.

[@Jason52597]

Still waiting for a x5 2010 diesel review haha

[@aslanmammadov2230]

you are not gonna talk about headlights? i would say that is one of the main difference between regular and M x5

[@vincejones3381]

Imagine a beast with low maintenance cost 😂

[@Zeiten]

True😉

[@chaulachaulaya5259]

That would be "TLC 200 series"

[@junkdubious]

Two words, rod bearings. If the price is right it might be worth it. Anything over 20K should be RTR. 15K or less for a runner. If it knocks leave it for dead.

[@surreaLinnovatioN]

Rod bearings could become an issue on neglected cars, Or people doing those 15k oil changes from this BMW generation; what a horrible idea. Bearings were more of a neglected S65/85 problem, ripping it before warmed up etc I learned from another user than the transmissions held gears longer during warm-ups too, which S63/tu's do not.

[@harley22x]

The biggest costs that come from this review include labor. What does BMW charge per hour? $200.00? Then OEM parts as well, which are severely inflated. 1) Price out off brand parts and look at reviews, 2) Do the work yourself

[@jonasbaine3538]

Which is more reliable: 2009-2010 X5M or same year Cayenne Turbo?

[@Eidrian111]

X5m by far i had a cayenne turbo and It was shit

[@jonasbaine3538]

@@Eidrian111 Seriously, what went wrong with the cayenne turbo? X5m seems so complicated

[@Eidrian111]

@@jonasbaine3538 dude the cayenne is even more complicated. The air suspension went wrong all of the time, I had to change water pump, injectors, coolant lines and when it started having problems with the transfer case I sold it.

[@nickwild7]

If you're looking at an E70 go 2011-2013 if it's 2011 make sure it's pre Oct 2010 build so that you get the updated interior radio etc.

[@Eidrian111]

@@nickwild7 don’t you mean post Oct 2010?

[@cookingwithrufo4864]

That’s Long Beach

[@Zeiten]

Right on😁👍

[@bojanmilicevic6619]

M is my dream but...😄 What do you think about this car with n52?

[@Zeiten]

N52 is the most reliable x5 e70, check out the other video where I review regular x5 e70

[@bojanmilicevic6619]

@@Zeiten I will ❤ from Serbia

[@Zeiten]

🙌

[@bojanmilicevic6619]

One more question my brother..my wife just got e60. I have Ancel BM 700 is that good for repairs or I need lap top.. ista etc?

[@Zeiten]

You just a proper scanner for 99% of issues, i use icarsoft bmm v3.0 has great potential

[@PoppinWheeliez]

35d is the best e70. 750km per tank city. Delete and tune. I love mine.

[@campecho]

ok ill get a corolla

[@noorhalabi1648]

Lol better save u the headache

[@iamflaco5839]

So what you telling us is that if you not rich or a bmw mechanic don’t buy it. Got it

[@Zeiten]

Pretty much😁 really expensive to maintain

[@jamesharte8390]

3 water pumps :o

[@hyeprofile]

My '12 X5M's main water pump failed 2 weeks ago. Plastic impeller wheel fell off the axle while removing it, that's how close to disaster I was. Cost me CAD$300 for a HEPU made in Germany replacement. It was a b*tch to replace.

[@contact2mayank]

@@hyeprofile how many kilometers on your car. I have a 2010 x5m with 140 k km and it's quite reliable but my car is stock and no modification.

[@hyeprofile]

My '12 X5M had 170k when I sold it a couple of months ago. It was stock too, and had all kinds of reliability issues, especially with the engine...

[@odyssey814]

who cares ,looks good

[@donpop_gxp]

My neighbor got one it sound like shit straight piped lol, and the bitch don't wanna race my gxp gap that shit.

[@VonRodern]

Далан, давай уже по-русски.

[@valhalla850i5]

@Zeiten LLC what a great video! No hyperbole, no sugar coating, no gloom and doom, just the facts from your many years experience working on BMWs. I've actually been contemplating getting one of these to use for the next few years until the Tesla truck is out for a while and thoroughly vetted. Your video certainly is helping me with my decision. It sounds like if you thoroughly check the car out and budget say $2-3k per year for maintenance (and another $50k for gas :)) this could be a reasonable proposition. Quick question, I have a 1992 850i 6p I am bringing back to life. A great automobile mechanic, body guy and good friend repainted the car a beautiful carbon black. After the repaint the engine bay was carefully steam cleaned, but now when you start the car it only runs for like 1min then bumps up a few hundred rpm and then dies. We checked both distributors but there is no indication water got in there. Replaced the fuel filters, still no luck. He was thinking the timing and cylinder identification sensors but visually they seem fine. His specialty had kind of been American Muscle cars but he is branching out lately and did a great job on a Ferrari and is now working on my 850i. Have you ever seen this, any thoughts???

[@Zeiten]

Thank you, well i would look into MAF sensors (mass air flow), as far as I remember those v12 don’t have idle control valve and idle is controlled fully by throttle bodies so cleaning those would be a good idea, if the car was sitting for a while refuel it, old gas deteriorates but it is rare. Look into air leaks and air flow

[@valhalla850i5]

@@Zeiten Thank you much! Will check into those things. Also will update with what the problem and fix turn out to be. Keep up the great videos. Perhaps one on the 850 is in the future :). Not much of a market as so few were made, but a wonderful car nonetheless.

[@rusmirdevlic2164]

money pit