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[@Geekism]

FLGS manager here. Yup, prices went up. Used to sell Commander Decks at $55CAD, now we have to do them at $65CAD and that's still under our regular markup. It's getting rough out there folks!

[@championsarchive433]

LGS owner here as well - Yes, the wholesale cost on these decks from most stores is going to $7-8 USD (so more in CAD) more than the New Capenna pre-cons were, so a $5-10 USD increase in on-shelf price is to be expected. It'd sure be nice if there were MSRP on these products.

[@Geekism]

Seeing as this post got pinned (Thanks, Prof!) I'll piggy back a little. Local Stores are getting handed the crappy end of the stick from a lot of larger distributors atm (not just WOTC), so if you want too see them stick around, you gotta support them. I know these decks and other boxed product can be found much cheaper online, so I won't blame you if you go that route (although beware of booster boxes from Amazon, often opened and returned unfortunately) But if you do get boxed product online, head to your local store for singles, sleeves, deck boxes and dice, usually we are able to sell those at more competitive prices. And now the world is opening back up again, go out and PLAY in these spaces, grab a can of coke and a candy bar from them and pay $5 to play Friday Night Magic... it's literally those little things that are keeping places like us open right now. Thanks for reading and thanks again to The Professor for his awesome content and community :)

[@mrstizzle9049]

My, very small list is selling them for $53cad, and the big online stores for $50cad

[@MeowHoots]

401 games has them for 55cad minus the black white one. I was able to preorder the black one fror 55.

[@bigdawg6471]

My “LGS” (it’s actually a board games shop) sells the new precons at 55CAD$ 👀 is the owner just nice ?!

[@giokazephyn354]

Wizards pricing strategy for commander decks, every time they raise the price, they raise the quality to get customers to stomach it, but once we accept “this is what commander precons cost now,” they let the quality drop back down.

[@ForeverLaxx]

That's been pretty much their strategy with every product.

[@CrosswaIk]

We accepted all of their price gouging a long time ago. Can't go back now

[@Gothstana]

@@CrosswaIk Why not?

[@6ixpool520]

@@Gothstana more like, they WON'T go back now, seeing as it works for them at our expense :/

[@Gothstana]

@@6ixpool520 Oh I thought they were referring the consumers, as in it's too late to stop buying WotC products now.

[@siltonnot3902]

In case anyone is wondering, here's the values 5 days after video posting: Party Time-$70.62 Exit from Exile-$46.05 Draconic Dissent-$59.87 Mind Flayarrs-$61.89. All decks down 50% in non-bulk($1+) value.

[@Tiredviet]

it’s almost double now jesus

[@Austin555661]

The msrp removal really screwed over prices in Australia, especially after the announced the price raise Commander precons went from 60 to now 70-80$, a huge jump

[@KillinTime2792]

I highly recommend getting decks from gameology, all 4 set you back $229.95 AUD right now. Only downside is you do have to get all 4. If you feel bad about gimping your LGS the cash for precons then source their singles for fun builds, buy snacks there instead of bringing snacks in those are where the real profit margins are.

[@nothing4mepls973]

Cost for Singles: 4:16 Non-Bulk Singles: 4:53 8:14 Strategies and Themes: Draconic Descent - Goad, Dragon tribal Party Time - Party Mind Flayers - Horror tribal, mill to reanimate Exit from Exile - Impulse Draw Gameplay Ranking: 11:09 Final Conclusion: 13:00 Grade: A I hope this helps you make a snap decision in the store! Professor, I want to hear your thoughts on the set overall.

[@stephenbradford8524]

You know what should be in the commander precons instead of the sample pack? Sleeves.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

Yeah just throw in those Ultra Pro Commander art sleeves.

[@thevoidbeckons]

They can't get foils right and you think their sleeves are going to be any good?

[@Deum-Immortalem]

My LGS give's 100ct dragon shield or eclipse sleeves with a purchase of a commander pre-con would be so awesome if wotc would do that.

[@GonxalusAika]

or just nothing and lower the price

[@TheArcSet]

Yes.

[@Hubert1246]

“I myself hope to win a game of magic one of these days”. Prof never change

[@shellbullet37]

1 day after this post: Party Time is down to $121.17, Exit From Exile is down to $80.65, Draconic Dissent is down to $99.66, and Mind Flayarrrs is down to $99.12. I feel it is super important to see these numbers at lauch+ as they go down significantly over time.

[@lincolncarvalho8739]

Noteworthy there that Exit from Exile went down the least. Some cards on the other decks were pricey simply due to a lack of reprints, while the deck that seems most consistent but didn't fetch high prices is more resilient to these fluctuations.

[@ahrenstarr6273]

I like that Prof touches on the value of the cards in terms of gameplay value and not just $ value. If I was going to buy a precon, one of my buying decisions would be around how many cards port over into other decks I would want to play.

[@Manny_lol]

ALWAYS check locals near you for precons if you're looking to get into the game. I went to a convention over the weekend where an LGS had a booth where they sold me the Mystic Intellect deck (Sevinne, Dockside Extortionist, etc.) for $35!

[@JonReid01]

Woah that's rare good find

[@XoIoRouge]

They RECENTLY sold you a Dockside for 35$? Yeah, it just came in very large packaging and surrounded by 99 other cards, but we all know whats up. Did you charm the shit out of them or were they just new at this MTG thing?

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Be sure to also check out, "How Popular Is Magic: The Gathering" here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4eWnYWVntqXmZY

[@maechael-ns1xe]

It's popular... Like massively so.

[@UncannyGirl]

$2 is bulk rares... so above a dollar doesn't get us out of bulk range!

[@djcochrane]

I love unique decks. We need more like that. Makes them worth a pickup, for the right price.

[@zztzgza]

If only they weren't overpriced and being scalped everywhere.

[@djcochrane]

@@zztzgza word.

[@charliewright2667]

I got Faldorn for 40 USD at my lgs and while I understand this isn't most people's experiences, I'm a very happy customer!

[@djcochrane]

@@charliewright2667 good to hear!

[@djcochrane]

@@charliewright2667 good to hear!

[@markgrochowicz4098]

Gavin Verhey and team did a good job with these decks. They all look fun!

[@GoodMorningMagic]

Thank you! ❤

[@arjunsandil9091]

Only thing I am sad about is Coastal PIRACY wasn’t in the Mind Flayaaars deck. Other than that, amazing selections with these decks, my favorite precons to play so far!

[@corbinisms8846]

If there was an honest to goodness Collector's Booster in there ... well I would still want the decks between $20 and $30, but I wouldn't feel hyper grimey over $40 to $50. Otherwise, they seem pretty rad.

[@zztzgza]

SNC commander decks had a collector's booster sample. It was like 2 cards and it was put in there to entice people to buy an overpriced booster. It's one of those psychological triggers that they want to get people with, kinda like a drug dealer.

[@pacificnorthwet]

I would still be unhappy given I don't remotely care about, nor want collector boosters. I don't want to pay for something I didn't ask for.

[@pervavita]

This is close to what I have thought for years should be included: add a pack of on color random cards that have some alt art, reprints, and now those exclusive for commander cards to upgrade your deck out of the box to give it some personal flair.

[@meltedlyricoriginal]

I still remember picking up the vampire and cats decks from commander 2017, both based on using them for play. Yeah, the decks and cards in them may now be worth quite a bit, especially edgar markov, but the value of the decks should always be in the playability. It should be able to hold its its own playing against new and established decks right out of the box.

[@actuallyKriminell]

wait. _wait_. the value of game pieces should be the value of game pieces instead of the value of investment items? sacrilege

[@meltedlyricoriginal]

@@actuallyKriminell I know right lol

[@macmusial3644]

10:51 Assuming there's not a joke I'm missing, this is a really strange statement because the last D&D set had a super similar deck to Exit from Exile named Planar Portal, with a commander that also exiles a card each turn and lets you play it, and gives you a token whenever you play a card from exile. When I first saw the commander for this one get revealed I was confused because the deck seems kind of like a color shifted version of last year's D&D precon, and that one was your favorite from the AFR commander decks.

[@joshoa90210]

His opinions don’t feel genuine sometimes.

[@atk9989]

I was very confused as well, I mean prosper is the top rakdos commander on EDHRec hard to think that it is that forgettable.

[@DeepCDiva]

I thought it was scripted by someone else and that's why they said it felt different lol

[@JonReid01]

He has script writers these days. Still enjoy the content, but aside from accessory reviews, doesn't always feel like Prof's unique perspectives it's a team effort now. Just a result of growth of a channel

[@atk9989]

@@JonReid01 i mean that just makes it even worse, means either his writers don't play the game, or no one at all remembered the by far top commander of the first D&D commander precons.

[@Crovax]

10:50 Prosper tome bound had the same strategy but instead of wolves you got treasures prof, and it was a precon

[@lookoutitsadragon]

Not only that, a Dungeons and Dragons precon!

[@pytawidmo]

I felt like Prof did that on purpose, as a joke :D

[@macmusial3644]

It was also his favorite deck from the original D&D set just like this one, I have no idea if it was a joke that I didn't get or he just forgot somehow

[@MrJustintreat]

Prosper tomb bound from the last D&D set was a RB play from exile deck. It was a load of fun, and I'm excited to upgrade exit from exile

[@TenguTalks]

I loved Prosper, that deck is STILL a blast to play.

[@titanium0002]

if you like exile take a look into vega, the watcher as a commander

[@MrJustintreat]

I still play prosper, he's my strongest deck. Vega looks fun. Would be a great way to branch into two different colors

[@TenguTalks]

Im def going to take a look at Vega. Prosper is a solid commander, but sometimes variety is fun too.

[@ferdithetank7535]

Vega and Eruth fit well into Elsha of the Infinite. Too bad we dont have 4-5 colour "Exile-matters" commander

[@AbsolutelyGeek]

If I remember well Gavin was the lead designer on these and I think you can see that they are made from someone who knows commander and how to make the decks fun and effective almost out of the box.

[@serendipitousdestruction5266]

I was actually going to try to build a horror tribal before Baldur’s gate came out and was disappointed at the lack of options, definitely going to pick it up and try to stuff in some fun upgrades.

[@kommanderkronk]

Umbris Fear Manifest is a MUST! Toxrill combos with Sludge Monster beautifully!

[@serendipitousdestruction5266]

@@kommanderkronk I’ll keep that in mind thanks for the recommendation

[@kommanderkronk]

@@serendipitousdestruction5266 no problem. I have an Umbris deck so I bought this one to get all the goodies for it lol

[@serendipitousdestruction5266]

@@kommanderkronk I can respect that

[@Grahdens]

​@@kommanderkronk Sameeeee

[@magicalmusketeershadow1153]

I'm unsure what you mean by "a strategy never in commander before" with the exile deck. I know Prosper, Tomb Bound does the exile strategy (and in my opinion is right next to this one in Strength out of the box). I do see that the commander does the exile theme interesting for sure but I just wanted to mention Prosper because he was one of the commander decks from last year. If I made a mistake and you meant something else on strategy over the exile them let me know.

[@macmusial3644]

This also confused me, Faldorn even has similar abilities to Prosper and both decks are from D&D themed sets, it's really strange that everyone working on the video somehow forgot about the Planar Portal precon in less than a year since its release

[@Lucat27]

Let's not forget about the original exile matters commander, Bell Borca. Also, Ranar counts, although he does do it very differently then the others.

[@magicalmusketeershadow1153]

@@Lucat27 And we can also bring Jeleva into the mix, one of the older exile themed commanders. Definitely a great one who also came from a precon

[@enricomassignani]

@@magicalmusketeershadow1153 Prosper was the first commander with an ability that specifically triggered on playing stuff from exile, i think.

[@jamesgerriemusicvlogsandmo71]

I was just looking for this video as it came into my notifications lol

[@maechael-ns1xe]

You poor bastard..

[@jamesgerriemusicvlogsandmo71]

@@maechael-ns1xe damn right XD

[@maechael-ns1xe]

@@jamesgerriemusicvlogsandmo71 hahs

[@Samonosuke]

My local game store had them super expensive, so I went to target down the road and they were way cheaper. I wanted to support them, but they were too pricey.

[@solstice1133]

fair

[@laxbro447]

I buy all my precons at target because all the lgs mark them up

[@33elkyeet91]

Our LGS here also price gauges really hard. I mean yeah covid strikes hard and everyone feels the aftereffects but damn selling capenna collector for 60 euro more is just straight up scammy

[@karnliberated8891]

One LGS I went to sold it for 45. I was very pleased.

[@gigapudding4557]

Mine had the party deck for $85 usd and the others at $75. Just cant afford to support local anymore.

[@smithjoshua99]

I'm new to magic and didn't know what to buy, so I went with Mind Flayers as Im a long time D&D player. I'm really happy with how it plays! I've had a ton of fun milling my friends decks and stealing their creatures for no mana cost.

[@arjunsandil9091]

Personally, I felt that the Party deck, while having the best new cards, felt rather underpowered in yesterday’s sealed pod for the new pre-cons, while the mindflayers deck had a strong showing, stealing the powerful creatures of my Opponent's

[@Blackreapxr]

This is a year old comment but it’s probably because they were using Nalia as the commander

[@thewitchef]

Last set I picked Perrie the Rhinoceros and although it had the least value out of the set, it played so well. I'm waiting for my SL Atraxa to give it a huge upgrade.

[@jamesmoore1317]

It really did!

[@SkuffD]

Just played with these decks last night with friends on untapped and I REALLY enjoyed Draconic Dissent and felt like it really came together compared to commander games we played last year.

[@Coolbreeze02050]

I just recently got into MTG about a month ago, and I played with my friends decks while I learned the game. The first deck I got for myself was Reap the Tides, because I liked the idea of ramping, and I turned out to really like the deck, and my friends all hated playing against it. A week later I was on amazon and saw a bundle for this entire set of 4 commander decks for $140, which I thought was a pretty good price. I looked through them a little bit and thought they looked nice, but I am still relatively new to the game, so I was just kind of hoping that they were good enough to all use. And once again I was delighted by the results of these decks. all of them are extremely fun to play with and are also usually very good. Hopefully I can keep accidentally stumbling across good precons with zero research like I have been so far lol

[@DXKramer]

I'm gonna miss paying $45 for the decks at my local game store. Starting with this set, if I want to get then through my LGS, I have to start paying $55.

[@championsarchive433]

LGS here - your LGS is likely paying $7-8 more for these precons than previous precons. Please continue to support your LGS - we are entering a recession that will close many shops.

[@whitefox25]

@@championsarchive433 nah man sorry i can get all 4 on amazon for 140$ why would i pay extra they just footing the bill to me screw them

[@Xoulrath_]

@@mindlightwave I agree with this statement IFF (if and only if) the LGS in question is catering to your needs. I had a new store open up from me back in 2019. They were asked by countless players to start up Modern, and later Pioneer. Hell, a number of players asked them to do Standard (me being one of them and I HATE Standard). We just wanted to play ANYTHING that wasn't just more mindless 4-pod Commander trash tournaments. They kept promising that they would do the formats asked, and started doing a lot of Draft as they finally got their WotC approval in 2020 just after Ikoria and the COVID shutdown. So with Draft now added to the Commander tournaments, it felt like they were on their way to at least Standard, and hopefully Pioneer and Modern. Well we all know that Pioneer died off for a while, so I forgive them for that. But they continued to push Draft EVERY week over Standard, despite a desire by most players to play a Constructed format. So fast forward to the summer of 2021, and MH2 releases. Tons of players, both the Commander players and the Modern players, bought everything the store had. The store promised us that this was their big push to Modern. They ran a "casual" Modern night, to "test" demand, despite knowing that the demand was there. Well after a month and a half of that, players got fed up with the lack of actual tournaments and left. Then by the time Modern tourneys did start, we went from what would have been 20+ minimum before most players left, to less than 10. Then they declared Modern dead, because they killed it. To make matters even worse, I tried to get a Flesh and Blood scene started. Keep in mind that I barely enjoy the game. I was just trying to help the store out because they asked me to. I was a regular and had been since they opened in 2019. I'd spent THOUSANDS there. Well, long story short, the store owner knew that I was planning to buy some boxes. It just so happens that I do my research, and find out that buying some Crucible of War is a great idea for a tournament player like myself. That same day, LSS released the statement about the product going OOP. I go to the store the following day, not expecting it to affect my price at all, because the store owner has never raised prices on his boxes before when a market spike hit like that. His position was that he wanted to be a fair business man, and that doubling the prices of boxes to $200, that he paid $70 for, felt dishonest. I appreciated that. Well somewhere along the way, he clearly changed his mind. Those $85 Crucible boxes became $160. Now, I might have been able to understand that had he not told me his prior philosophy. I might have understood had he had an active FAB scene. But here he is, asking me to help him start a tournament scene, and then he raises the prices of the boxes through the roof, and I'm supposed to just suck it up? Nah, man that type of thing is a two way street. Had he said, "Hey, Xoul, these boxes doubled in price overnight. I didn't pay that for them, but I'd like to make a bit of extra money to help out the store and my family. Do you mind paying say, $100 a box?" I would have gladly said yes. Instead, he wouldn't budge on the price at all, while sitting on a half dozen boxes, with no market for it locally. He wasn't doing online sales either. Long story short, tl;dr, whatever: an LGS only deserves as much respect as a player gets back in return. That LGS that I mentioned, they aren't doing so well now. They baited players in claiming one philosophy, then changed up the rules mid game. A lot of regulars have abandoned them and drive twice as far to play, and more importantly, shop elsewhere.

[@johnbuscher]

@@whitefox25 Because you’re supporting a company that is hoping to crush your LGS where you could be playing Magic, and when other game stores go out of business, Amazon will stop being so cheap with undercutting. It’s an investment into your community and not spending so much money with a major corporation that doesn’t help your local area. It’s like shopping at a mom and pop vs Wal-Mart.

[@Xoulrath_]

@@blaze556922 I don't disagree with you about Wizards greed. But let's not go spreading disinformation about LGS's. I don't know what the price is for these decks, but I doubt that most LGS's are doubling their money on them. In the event that they are, let's nor act like that is a huge amount of money. Say they sell 20 of these decks at a profit of $25 each. That's $500. Wow, they are so rich, right?! NO. That doesn't even cover the rent of the majority of places that an LGS is open. That doesn't even get into costs like electricity, water, gas, supplies needed to stay open like cleaning supplies, employee paychecks, and then finally an actual paycheck for the store owner as well. That money, that profit that you mention isn't getting spent on yachts and islands in the Caribbean. It's getting put right back into the store more often than not. If the profit margins were even close to what you claim they are, and as easy to maintain and manage as you seem to think they are, then many more people would be investing into LGS's. So like I said, please don't spread misinformation.

[@gabrielamaro1470]

You misunderstand Professor, the sample pack isn't there to trick people into thinking there's a full booster in there. It's to get EDH players used to and even desiring the art treatments so WOTC can get them to buy collector's booster boxes. Or you know, singles like sane people do.

[@Shark-Fist]

It also serves to "justify" the price increase

[@mrstizzle9049]

@@Shark-Fist I don't think wotc has tried to justify the price increase because of the sample pack

[@tecjohnson]

It says right on the box "sample pack" I am not sure how that is being sneaky

[@Robert-iu2ou]

@@tecjohnson i think the deceit people are upset abt is that it feels kind of oxymoronic: collector implies value, sample implies free. So it feels like youre being offered a happy meal toy for $10.

[@psuvik]

Great vid as usual Prof, thank you for not only breaking down the financial value of these but also the playability and strengths of each too. Always informed with TCC

[@warl54961]

I picked up mind flayarrrs and I'm having a blast. a lot of interaction and i'm already adding in nice upgrades. I can't wait to flip "thing in the ice"!

[@jdRamza]

Managed to pick up a bundle of all 4 for $95, looking forward to playing with each one and pitting them against each other. It's interesting watching the value section of this video now only 5 months later.

[@schumerus6786]

The Simic commander Legends 1 commander deck is actually very good if you wanna start off with a decent deck. The idea is Simic Ramp and Big Sea Creatures with imposing effects, so you’ll probably wanna swap out a couple of sea creatures for cheaper value creatures but other then that it’s the fun simic plan: Ramp up, get the commander, flood in value, play the Sea creatures. I recommend

[@laurij115]

Stellar review, love that you show all cards and talk about gameplay 💪

[@TheDragonbolt1]

I'm honestly having the most fun coming up with ideas for new commander setups with all the legendary uncommons in this set and the background mixes. Sooooo many options and soooo many good cards to mix into existing decks! Thanks again TCC!!

[@shiningdust]

Thank you for all your wonderful work Professor!!!!

[@LeggyLegends]

prepping us for the eventual addition of "sample pack" boosters in stores, really gotta confuse the grandmas buying christmas gifts. Be on the lookout for the super rare collector edition sample, two cards plus a chance for one of the list available for 4-16 usd

[@nut-vs3ss]

its v funny to come back a year later to look at the financial values

[@origaminosferatu3357]

These decks look super sick and they've got some amazing reprints, (Jeska's Will!!) but every time the price shoots up, buying even just one gets harder to stomach. I bought singles from the last one and it still cost me 30-40 bucks. And that was only a month ago! I guess I'll wait half a year and get one of these for 25. :P

[@babygiraffex785]

I pre-ordered party time. So glad I did too, the "form a party" mechanic is so fun and unique.

[@DERIKTHEGENERAL]

prof is quietly one of the funniest people in MTG content creation. I hope he wins a game one day soon

[@D00813]

Thanks for always coming in with the tea, Prof, it's always piping and delicious from your channel!

[@Heiru3]

Never regretted buying the Mindflayer deck, so fun.

[@rougespectre6577]

I have to say I appreciate my LGS more every day. ii picked up party time today for $40 and I could have bought the other 3 for just $35 each

[@AtticsTV]

Exit from Exile is such a fun deck. Once I saw it, I knew it would be interesting so I grabbed it... and Funnily enough, it was the ONLY one of the 4 that weren't marked up. Grabbed it for 50 CAD, while the Goad deck was 60, Mind Flayarrs 70, and Party Time already marked up to 85. So definitely glad the deck I wanted is fun, strong, and not marked up.

[@amethystrose3480]

You said the green red exile deck strategy was something we had never seen before? What about prosper? His whole gimmic was to play from exile and mass produce mana with it.

[@AllAboutComics77]

Man I love these videos and I love the candid chatter . No one celebrated my birthday growing Up either . Must be our generation of kids

[@FoggyWall]

I think the red green exile deck looks like a lot of fun. ty prof for another excellent video.

[@TLG1255]

I knew you’d be stoked for the Jeska’s will reprint!!

[@aymanmz]

Thanks for mentioning the gameplay with the exile one. I've been having a lot of fun with that precon with some slight edits :)

[@kalebkunkle2300]

I saw this video posted after I bought the exit from exile precon from my lgs. I had no idea it was the lowest value, but I’ve played it a couple times and I love getting card advantage with big gruul creature support! I’m glad to hear the glowing reviews from the prof on the playability and overall strength of this deck :)

[@RaveTheN]

Professor, your channel is a service to the whole community of mtg. Thank you for all your work throughout these years!

[@zscarecrow]

Went to a few stores today trying to pick up Mind Flayaaars (LGS and other) and none had received them yet in Ireland, found one store with boosters and that was it. No idea when we’ll be able to get them here without ordering from abroad.

[@ashadonji8762]

Look at the wizards website there was an article about delays. I'm not sure how exact it is but it'll point you in the right direction of an estimate

[@brian_sh699]

These decks look like lots of fun! I am planning on picking up party time and mind flayarrrs. Those two seem like lots of fun to me. I am also very excited for the warhamer decks to come as I have recently added 40k to my list of too many hobbies.

[@iMac76]

I always wait to hear what you have to say about these precons. I was thinking about picking up Party Time but now may do the exile deck as well. Thanks, Prof!

[@Beckola44]

Thank you for the review on the new Commander pre-con decks Professor. It is much appreciated.

[@kyleroy8460]

Comment will likely get buried, but wanted to say thanks for all you do with these videos. Such a tremendous resource to the community. Greatly appreciated. Have a good weekend 🤘

[@jessesealand3179]

A couple days before the spoilers for this set came out I started building a temur suspend deck with Jhoira of the Ghitu as a secret commander, needless to say I was ecstatic to see faldorn and the other exile payoffs in that deck along with Alaundo in the main set.

[@Gwynn_Oda]

So, the red green deck isn't the only one with the idea of "exile, cast it from exile, profit." There was the previous Rakdos one in the AFR set, using Prosper, Tome Bound as the main commander.

[@TransformersBoss]

Remember when the Brawl decks has Shocks in them? That was cool…

[@SparkBlazeWarriors]

Remember when wotc tried to get people to play paper brawl?

[@blacktiggi66]

Can't wait to pick up "Exit from Exile" at my local gamestore at Tuesday :D great Coverage!

[@lioleeuwerink1968]

Great video as always, Prof! But I just wanted to point out that your credits roll lists Zack Martin as "Staff Wirter" instead of "Staff Writer." You might want to rewirte that ;-)

[@Monkai_Plays]

I pickd up mind flayers for 35 euro. it was my first commander deck i got . It was very fun to play with

[@boomer_gooner8511]

Love the value that you add, especially talking new releases.

[@carumsarene]

I'd argue that the playing from exile theme can be as strong as storm decks. The reason it's so cheap for its power level is simply because it's much more harder to control. There's a bigger learning curve, as someone else put it. It's like trying to tame a wild stallion. I'm currently working on a 5-color play from exile deck. There's no proper commander available, so I'm just making my own. It's casual anyway.

[@Ausferius]

Can you do a ranking for all the Commander decks in a year? Like the recommendations for last year's decks so people might be able to snatch up a cheaper Commander deck?

[@TenguTalks]

I love how these are the "best in a long while," which was also the verdict for New Capenna...and AFR...and Strixhaven...yeah, commander precons have come a long way since I started buying them. Strixhaven is still my favorite of the past 2 years tho. And Elven Empire.

[@EnglishAdventures]

I pretty much always wait for you to do these videos before buying any precon commander deck! Just this time I had a good feeling about them and got all 4 on Amazon for $143 to get a better price. Thanks again for all of your hard work Professor!

[@counter511]

Congratulations ! Which one do you prefer so far ?

[@synchrofanatic510]

Draconic Dissent is probably my favourite of this batch. I love dragons and the commander looks great to use (drawing cards and getting counters is great). But the Goad mechanic is so fun when you’re in the game. Just causing trouble for opponents by provoking other creatures and then getting to plus off it seems hilarious and I can’t wait to see how people will react to having to attack scary boards.

[@aaronkells3531]

Draconic Dissent is amazing out the box. Beat out Yarok and A Mill Deck with ease

[@jibb8545]

Was pretty disappointed that there wasn't more support for party in the main set given that they made a full deck around it.

[@gabrielamaro1470]

The story goes according to Gavin Verhey, that there was an attempt to make a new Superparty mechanic for CL2, but it fizzled and so Gavin took the ideas and put them all into this precon. Designers really don't seem to like party, its been rejected and halfheartedly supported in several sets

[@TransformersBoss]

Too bad there wasn’t more support for party in Zendikar Rising, and they made a whole set about it lol

[@zackrywest5301]

Great video. I feel that the mark ups are to cash off the hype of a new product but they then drop down to a reasonable price. I mean of you want to pay extra to be one of the first to have it sure but I'd rather wait for it to be significantly cheaper.

[@ericorange2654]

I love the pirate horror art, but mill…that is a strategy for monsters who hate their friends and enjoy causing pain

[@MatheusLima-ex3bt]

I just went for Party Time! Not for the vallue but bc it gave me the most DnD vibe

[@jaysenpatton712]

I worked in retail for over 10 years. I've worked implementing and enhancing ERP systems for another 10+ years. I've seen many business models in many verticals/industries. It is my humble opinion that not having an MSRP should be illegal. Also, buy singles please.

[@chrismarcoux3990]

That subscribe icon hovering over the KZbin plaque. Nice

[@emperoroftheeternal]

I thought the red green deck worked similarly to the past red black Prosper deck

[@averagefox5126]

I used to buy the decks every year. Now I refuse to buy them and just buy the singles I need from them

[@kolymarut]

Was there an infinite colourless mana combo in the horror one? Hullbreaker horror, Everflowing chalice and Sol Ring.

[@notorious.scoundrel]

Party Time appeals to me as someone who mains white combinations and recently discovered how fun Orzhov can be

[@sidneyjosephmusic]

Appreciate the honesty and insight as always Prof 🤘🏼👏🏼 This set does look epic

[@Mr_Macho_Nacho_2077]

Young professor would have an annuitant if he saw the 70-100 dollar price tag on decks now

[@Deum-Immortalem]

That's why I liked the dungeon deck awhile back it was unique wish they would of had more dungeon mechanics in this set instead of just the undercity.

[@joshholmes1372]

Luckily initiative can advance you in old dungeons and venturing can advance you in undercity, it just won't get you in there. So you can add the initiative stuff to Sefris if you want.

[@Deum-Immortalem]

@@joshholmes1372 True still wish there was a bit more.

[@joshholmes1372]

@@Deum-Immortalem agreed. I was a bit disappointed too as a dungeon mechanic lover. I made a brago flicker dungeon deck that is so fun

[@Deum-Immortalem]

@@joshholmes1372 Yhea I added some flicker cards in my dungeon deck too.

[@Alfresk]

I am small seller having a news kiosk in Italy, I bought these decks for me and 3 other friends that i wanted to introduce to commander, and if I had to sell those to my clients and make a profit, i would have had to sell them for 60€

[@ConnorRunda]

Contacted my LGS to order the set of 4. Got it for 190 which i felt was pretty fair. And boy did these decks not disappoint. Loved the illithid deck, a lot of fun. First mill with the commander i stole a sol Ring and that was pretty much game. Highly recommend these.

[@manaburnout9892]

Great video as always professor! Will you be doing a "best cards for pauper" for this set?

[@koalmar3566]

The Commander Sampler is almost solely trying to convert commander deck buyers into collector booster buyers. It's a conversion marketing tactic by providing samples.

[@DanielDiaz-cg7vh]

Nice was waiting this video for a few days

[@PlanetParasite]

Black market connections has a $28 market value currently. Best precon I've ever bought!

[@Esteban-lh7qz]

i pretty much fell in love with captain n'gathrod the moment the commanders got revealed

[@ColeStephan2ulip]

Thank you for the reviews. You are a community treasure Professor.

[@alexanderforbes1452]

I really wish someone out there could get someone high up at wizards (or hasbro if they're the real villain here) in an interview and ask them how they can justify selling a hundred card commander deck for twenty bucks not long ago and now charge almost three times that for, on their end, couldn't possibly be that much more to produce.

[@johncreekpaum4998]

Oh, I'll give the answer that nobody would say but is likely the truth.... "We found that lowering the price to $20 didn't increase sales enough to have those decks make as much as the more expensive ones. But, at the higher price point we are selling more than enough to easily cover the slight drop off in sales."

[@Xoulrath_]

@@johncreekpaum4998 I highly doubt that that is the truth at all. The reality is that there are still a lot of Magic players who don't play Commander; I'm one of them. I'll drop $20 on a Commander deck that I otherwise don't need, all because of a few cards that make the deck a value. At $40 I'll just buy singles, which means that Wizards doesn't see my money at all. I've also talked to a lot of Commander players who live and breath the format, and they were willing to buy the $20 decks for staples like Sol Ring, since the true Commander player loves having a million decks ready to go. But at $40+, they stay away because the value isn't there. So it's more likely that new players are buying these decks to play with friends. Or existing players just getting back into the game might be buying them to figure out what the format is. But players like me, who primarily focus on Modern and Pioneer, and existing Commander players, are not the ones buying these decks at $40+.

[@johncreekpaum4998]

@@Xoulrath_ OK, but be honest, do you truly believe that the $20 Commander decks sold twice as many as the $40 ones? Because that's the amount needed to make the $20 ones as profitable as the $40 ones.

[@joshholmes1372]

@@Xoulrath_ people also buy them for reprint value. Party time has a number of valuable reprints. Plus a few new cards that could be commander staples. So you end up paying less than you would buying each of those cards as a single. Plus you get other cards to build with as you please.

[@rydergreenmusic]

I’ve got the Mind Flayarrrs deck. In my opinion it was the best of the group, good cards, and well built deck with solid value. I can’t speak for the others, but the horror mill idea is great.

[@wombleking]

My SNC Collector booster sample pack had another copy of the face legendary from the precon it came in. Cool.

[@Rustyhunter5]

They probably did raise prices. Hasbro said earlier in the year WOTC would see increased prices.

[@bengregorash]

I always look forward to your "is it worth it to buy" videos. My LGS is selling Party Time for $80 CAD! I really like the look of these decks but I'm slowly being priced out of them. On the plus side, pauper is becoming more popular in town.

[@roboblade6046]

Seems like all the parts that are made by the people who actually make magic are the good bits (new cards, reprints, how fun they are to play) and all the bad parts are on the marketing/corporate side of things (the msrp, the deceptive packaging)

[@Rukalin]

"Play from exile" isn't a new theme exclusive to this. We had a precon one year ago with the same theme but treasures as the payoff. Also with a D&D theme.

[@DaneCurley]

I was nearly conned by the "sample pack," before watching this video!

[@BucketOfFail]

My best friend and I used to play magic years ago and are looking to learn commander now. I bought the two Zendikar Rising decks for us to learn with for less than $40 shipped.