Is Jay Electronica Making Watch The Throne 2 with Jay Z? | The Joe Budden Podcast

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@reboot4357
@reboot4357 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you said Lupe is an elite rapper. Its really NOT alot of rappers in that category.
@tronskee32
@tronskee32 4 жыл бұрын
Nino Cee Joe always gives Lupe his props. He always said Lupe scared him lol, and that he wouldn’t wanna rap against him. Love that he gives him love cause Lu is my fav
@jermaineblalock5553
@jermaineblalock5553 4 жыл бұрын
tronskee32 Facts, nobody wants it with him, I like him better than Nas
@jbond9637
@jbond9637 4 жыл бұрын
@Trahfk McGhee lookup Mural by lupe
@zgsfreaky9102
@zgsfreaky9102 4 жыл бұрын
Trahfk McGhee lupe is anything but overrated you just don’t like complex intricate written verses with messaging, layers, substance, actual bars in metaphors and double/triple entendres because you’re not comprehensive enough to even understand a fraction of it which makes you think hes overrated. If jay-z said he is the best writer of the new generation and nas recently in the drink champs interview said lupe reminded him of himself in terms of lyricism and royce and joe and many more say hes one of the goats etc then do you think your worthless opinion carries any weight?
@gotjuice9
@gotjuice9 4 жыл бұрын
@@zgsfreaky9102 exactly. People actually underrate Lupe.. I think because of a few factors: 1) His voice is not super commanding, 2) he not talkin that ignorant shit people equate with real shit nowadays so he is written off as soft 3) historical beat selection, and 4) his tendency to delve into pop-rock-rap sonics and hooks makes purists dismiss him as poppy/mainstream. His last few albums have improved musically from his middle work.. I believe both Tetsuo & Youth and Drogas Wave are masterpieces, so he's solidified as one of the greats to me.
@bohemianjay98
@bohemianjay98 4 жыл бұрын
I'm here laughing because Jay Electronica got everyone talking about him again.
@mr.enigma4475
@mr.enigma4475 4 жыл бұрын
Year after year. Its really amazing when you think about it. Straight up laughable
@Latimish
@Latimish 4 жыл бұрын
A whole decade later
@pslovebird
@pslovebird 4 жыл бұрын
I done moved out my parents crib years ago and dudes STILL talking about this dude. I am dying
@cbenji07
@cbenji07 4 жыл бұрын
@@pslovebird Yo I read a reddit comment where this guy says he was 14 when Jay electronica first got the buzz and he now 24 with a 3 year old kid before Jay electronica finally dropped.
@jgarner3861
@jgarner3861 4 жыл бұрын
J Electronica is a freakin magician...created a legend without an album and went from homeless to bumpin a billionaire...he's the Merlin of rap
@nmagain24
@nmagain24 4 жыл бұрын
Did he get her pregnant??
@j.brookinzentertainment5032
@j.brookinzentertainment5032 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Elec never forced himself on the culture and here we are in 2020 talking about him...crazy. The man doesn't owe anyone an album. Respect whatever he did that still has us talking to this day. Looking forward to the drop
@aintnopresident
@aintnopresident 4 жыл бұрын
All day
@johnmpundu8782
@johnmpundu8782 4 жыл бұрын
Jay electronica loves these conversations.. See y'all next year.. Lol
@Vmh1717
@Vmh1717 4 жыл бұрын
John Mpundu Lololol he will delay it for 4 years
@ThoughtOuter
@ThoughtOuter 4 жыл бұрын
Feel like lowkey this is Jay Elec youtube account lol
@seandafny
@seandafny 4 жыл бұрын
Inner Thought bro i wud be HOT !!! Lol
@chrischance1063
@chrischance1063 4 жыл бұрын
???
@Undone545
@Undone545 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know whats so difficult to get joes point. If you were an amateur fighter, then a pro fighter, then rose up the ranks, then got a title shot, then won a belt, then defended your belt multiple times successfully lost it won it back over a decade long career. How the fuck do you compare that fight career with someone who has never fought professionally never got a title never defended a title never dealt with the systemic constraints and incentives of professional fighting. You couldn't. It doesnt matter how nice with his hands he is. Even if your record was all losses you would still be above someone who didnt even go pro. Jay elec is nice, perhaps even capable of legendary material BUT he hasnt stepped in the ring.
@bawxofchawclets4836
@bawxofchawclets4836 4 жыл бұрын
I think he is a legend but not necessarily for the rite reasons. We all know the narrative of the jay electronica the lil rapper that "could of ..."
@kable1982
@kable1982 4 жыл бұрын
Facts facts facts!
@seandafny
@seandafny 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee
@Undone545
@Undone545 4 жыл бұрын
@@bawxofchawclets4836 precisely... we throw this term legendary because we know hes a phenemonal emcee *but* as much as a beast that EVERYONE KNOWS black thought is and all the classics hes been a part of with the roots. There was that asterisk "wheres his solo material?" Remember when ghostface spoke to action bronson when he got out of pocket like "wheres your iron mans, your wizard of poetry, your bullent proof wallets before you mention my name" its the same. He can be your fave artist or whatever you might even say he can match pens with the best of them but he doesnt have a career that you can match with anyone. At all.
@sportsfan120577
@sportsfan120577 4 жыл бұрын
Conor McGregor got a fight with one of the greatest boxers of all time and he never fought professionally and earned/stole crazy money. Jay is letting Jay Electronica rock off more than off the strength of Exhibit C.
@reggp1
@reggp1 4 жыл бұрын
Jay and Jay E already got 2 tracks together that was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I’m ready for whatever
@drewdrewson1384
@drewdrewson1384 4 жыл бұрын
This is so true. If DMX would have died in 2003 he would be considered a legend legend. If 50 cent died during the promotion of the massacre all we would hear about is wow he would have been the best if he only would have lived.
@Kingolimar354
@Kingolimar354 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I can't call biggie the goat
@marcrobinson010
@marcrobinson010 4 жыл бұрын
Yo! That is so true! Nobody was selling albums like 50 was. Massacre sold a million copies in its first week.
@xXSprMgaAwsmFxyHtXx
@xXSprMgaAwsmFxyHtXx 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kingolimar354 yeah I feel you, only 2 real albums and one of them is sort of posthumous
@Billiards8kid
@Billiards8kid 4 жыл бұрын
Same with big l
@Gemini050788
@Gemini050788 4 жыл бұрын
The thing with Big is the impact. No rapper is more quoted or has those lines flipped, or can say that they definitively have 2 albums as good and definitely not better. They both have goat albums arguments in their own right. The growth from R2D and LAD may be the biggest gap in artist development ever from one album to the next. There still hasn’t been a better double disc since LAD and the only one comparable honestly is All Eyez On Me. I understand you feel how you feel but there is a reason that man is revered the way he is with such a short run.
@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 4 жыл бұрын
This better be the best album ever given how long this album been pushed back.
@charlesrivers9509
@charlesrivers9509 4 жыл бұрын
Doubt it ,
@PlaygroundLegends2
@PlaygroundLegends2 4 жыл бұрын
WTT can only be Ye & Jay
@Dotseoem
@Dotseoem 4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@Vmh1717
@Vmh1717 4 жыл бұрын
Dotseoem agreed
@user-qd6im2hp2e
@user-qd6im2hp2e 4 жыл бұрын
Dotseoem 1. The WTT concept was Ye’s idea 2. Ye produced the whole album 3. Ye outperformed Jay on the album 4. In 2015 when Ye was talking about doing a joint album with Drake, he didn’t say it was going to be called WTT 2, it was going to be called wolves. 5. Jay benefited from WTT more than Ye, Ye dropped the best album of 2010 (now the album of the decade) in MBDTF and didn’t need to do the joint album with Jay as he was in his prime on top of the world, Jay benefited from that album more than Ye. Overall, it would be disrespectful because it was Ye’s idea to do that album. So Jay should name the album something else if he is planning to do the album with Jay Electronica.
@Dotseoem
@Dotseoem 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-qd6im2hp2e 1. An idea of a duo album wasn't invented by Ye. It's just an IDEA. 2. He DIDN'T produce the WHOLE album. Maybe as an Exec but have a look at the producers... 3. Who cares who's "better". That's subjective. If they're on an album/song together, why even compare like Ye was carrying Jay. Nah. 4. So What?? Kings sit on Thrones. Top Rappers are Kings. Any King can do it. 5. Again, So What?? Kanye started out as a producer. Of course Jay benefitted from him like any rapper would with Kanye production.
@user-qd6im2hp2e
@user-qd6im2hp2e 4 жыл бұрын
Dotseoem Again I didn’t say Ye invented the idea of a duo album, of course there’s been duo albums prior. I said Ye came up with the WTT NAME. So Jay calling a joint album with Jay Electronica WTT 2 would be disrespectful and unoriginal. Also their duo name is literally called The Throne. Regarding production; Ye executive produced the album, produced Otis by himself and co-produced 8 songs. That’s production on 9/12 songs. Just wanted to add that in.
@jolikudo
@jolikudo 4 жыл бұрын
There is no Throne 2 without Kanye
@gonk4793
@gonk4793 4 жыл бұрын
But all these idiots canceled Kanye because he doesn't think like everyone else
@houseofmatrix6174
@houseofmatrix6174 4 жыл бұрын
I want Jayz&Kanye for Watch the throne 2
@MultiDwizzle
@MultiDwizzle 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@houseofmatrix6174
@houseofmatrix6174 4 жыл бұрын
Gemini GOD Factz This álbum with Jay Elec sounds ok but I want Throne 2 back
@robinvolpi
@robinvolpi 4 жыл бұрын
Nah.... over it. Nothing would compare to the first, anyhow.
@justmythoughtsenjoy
@justmythoughtsenjoy 4 жыл бұрын
Ok this narrative gotta stop. Jay Electronica has a whole mixtape out, and a few scattered songs throughout KZbin. He doesn't only have 1 song.
@keontesealey1870
@keontesealey1870 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!! I'm so tired of this narrative
@jaejae4227
@jaejae4227 4 жыл бұрын
Foh he only got 1 song out
@Vmh1717
@Vmh1717 4 жыл бұрын
He got one song tho
@ShambaMenelect
@ShambaMenelect 4 жыл бұрын
Was gonna say this . He put out a mixtape which is a body of work
@biffskywalker4589
@biffskywalker4589 4 жыл бұрын
T...........1717 bro he has a whole project called Eternal Sunshine
@nicporter7263
@nicporter7263 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not the throne without Kanye, period.
@twxvybeatz5796
@twxvybeatz5796 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Tf are they talking about
@nicporter7263
@nicporter7263 4 жыл бұрын
gottabump my ears don’t care about your feelings 🤷🏾‍♂️
@kingghxstgaming
@kingghxstgaming 4 жыл бұрын
gottabump you sound butthurt af lmao
@ThinkerHaistTV
@ThinkerHaistTV 4 жыл бұрын
The Throne is Ye & Hov... Barter 6 was Thug. This gon be the rap version of that.
@user-qd6im2hp2e
@user-qd6im2hp2e 4 жыл бұрын
gottabump Ye produced that whole album, carried Jay on that album and Watch The Throne was his idea not Jay’s
@anthonyl1787
@anthonyl1787 4 жыл бұрын
The Hovengers love this...
@Epmd419
@Epmd419 4 жыл бұрын
Rory hit it with the DMX example.
@williamharris9264
@williamharris9264 4 жыл бұрын
Calling it watch the throne 2 would be a huge mistake, “The Thone” is Jay and Kanye. Hate on Kanye all you want but he’s in a league of his own as far as greatness and artistry
@rods7028
@rods7028 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@michaelmantinaos8330
@michaelmantinaos8330 4 жыл бұрын
Yep I second this the thing ppl continue to fail to mention about Ye is he has one of the greatest discography’s in hip hop and very few have the amount of classics he has
@Dotseoem
@Dotseoem 4 жыл бұрын
1. Nobody really Hates Kanye. They just disagree with him or are disappointed. 2. The "Throne" consist of more than 2 rappers... J.Cole and Kendrick can do the same. Jay and Jay are both worthy of rhyming together... Cleary.. Nas and Jay-Z could do a Thrones album....
@williamharris9264
@williamharris9264 4 жыл бұрын
Dotseoem no
@blodiaaa6990
@blodiaaa6990 4 жыл бұрын
WAS in a league of his own. Not anymore.
@otakudesuka7376
@otakudesuka7376 4 жыл бұрын
Way way too spiritual to be a Watch The Throne 2. There is something different with Jay-Z in this album.
@NYners718
@NYners718 4 жыл бұрын
have u not heard HOV the past 5 years??
@Sincerely7.
@Sincerely7. 4 жыл бұрын
Raekwon debut was a classic album and Ghostfacekilla was the Co-host. Jay electronica is about to debut with Hov as his co host & ya complaining. They about to cook up some marvelous shit
@lepetitmort1150
@lepetitmort1150 4 жыл бұрын
Kemali Green amazing counter argument. here is your medal sir. 🥇
@kofithompson2274
@kofithompson2274 4 жыл бұрын
Nah that's the wu ....jay electronic ain't that level
@3Dimensional3
@3Dimensional3 4 жыл бұрын
But Hov been out since 96
@infer426
@infer426 4 жыл бұрын
Kemali Green that shit was incredible
@EllionTy
@EllionTy 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly the first album I thought about
@DJShaDanger
@DJShaDanger 4 жыл бұрын
I said the same thing about Method Man! If Meth wouldve died in 94, he wouldve been King!
@crocodile4
@crocodile4 4 жыл бұрын
Act 1 by Jay Electronica is a piece of art that hasnt been matched by most albums. It was 15 mins. It was perfect.
@certifiedleakers6998
@certifiedleakers6998 4 жыл бұрын
How can it be watch the throne 2 with jay electronica? The man released 7 singles his whole career..HE HAS NO THRONE to watch🤷🏾‍♂️
@yusufbey1587
@yusufbey1587 4 жыл бұрын
youknow thevibes and jay elec is STILL one of the greatest lyricist in the game
@certifiedleakers6998
@certifiedleakers6998 4 жыл бұрын
@@yusufbey1587 no the hell he not you just ridin nuts.....its about 30 rappers who have proven their lyricism skills time after time over the past 20 year's ands he's not one of them..
@certifiedleakers6998
@certifiedleakers6998 4 жыл бұрын
@@yusufbey1587 he's not even 'in the game " for you to say that
@yusufbey1587
@yusufbey1587 4 жыл бұрын
youknow thevibes he don’t need to be if Jay elec drooped an album this second everyone and they mama would be streaming it
@certifiedleakers6998
@certifiedleakers6998 4 жыл бұрын
@@yusufbey1587 yea you sound like a stan....im not going back and forth with a jay elec stan....peace
@seanbyrne8463
@seanbyrne8463 4 жыл бұрын
“Too many words” -mal
@lilvirgo669
@lilvirgo669 4 жыл бұрын
"Jay electronica is in the 1% of how he..." - Joe Budden... that's gonna go over alot of people heads
@IllDawgable
@IllDawgable 4 жыл бұрын
Break it down.
@mikel8577
@mikel8577 4 жыл бұрын
Rothchild
@CDubb442
@CDubb442 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Elect is supremely talented upper echelon bars that’s why joe is saying what he’s saying, his point is that this shouldn’t be the debut album because someone with his talent should be graded off his own merits out the gates.
@ThinkerHaistTV
@ThinkerHaistTV 4 жыл бұрын
He’s married to a Rothschild... And in with JAY. He’s 1%.
@kable1982
@kable1982 4 жыл бұрын
He is in bed with billionaires with that 1 percent literally.
@imagoblack
@imagoblack 4 жыл бұрын
Life ain’t fair. Jay Electronica is a special artist. This album gonna be amazing
@jimbo6519
@jimbo6519 4 жыл бұрын
Would be better with Kanye though...
@houseofmatrix6174
@houseofmatrix6174 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Bo I’m think the same thing
@MikeFromWisco
@MikeFromWisco 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Bo not in 2020. Maybe 2012.
@sprb4725
@sprb4725 4 жыл бұрын
If it’s anything like Daytona or kids see ghosts yeah, but nasir or Jesus is king? No thanks
@sprb4725
@sprb4725 4 жыл бұрын
Ye is hit or miss these days
@00trevanti
@00trevanti 4 жыл бұрын
Old kanye maybe. But electronica is a different lyrical animal than kanye
@user-qd6im2hp2e
@user-qd6im2hp2e 4 жыл бұрын
Ain’t no damn Watch The Throne 2 without Ye. Ye produced Watch The Throne, he outperformed Jay on that album and the album was his idea. They gotta name that joint album something else, that would be disrespectful.
@Vmh1717
@Vmh1717 4 жыл бұрын
M 360 prolly why jay doesn’t want to do with ye again lol
@user-qd6im2hp2e
@user-qd6im2hp2e 4 жыл бұрын
T...........1717 true
@laurencewilliams6676
@laurencewilliams6676 4 жыл бұрын
Its hard for an artist. No matter how great to battle a team of ghostwriters
@nwoodz
@nwoodz 4 жыл бұрын
laurencecwilliams Caesar is it the trump thing or the taylor swift thing?
@user-qd6im2hp2e
@user-qd6im2hp2e 4 жыл бұрын
laurencecwilliams Caesar if you’re talking about Ye, he credits everyone that he works with, they’re co-writers not ghostwriters, he don’t have any ghostwriters. People don’t know the difference. And Ye writes on his albums. You guys love to discredit Ye because he’s so dope of an artist.
@thehearseandtheroses
@thehearseandtheroses 4 жыл бұрын
He’s finna kill Jay Electronica 😂😂😂
@tshepos3262
@tshepos3262 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Electronica is a hip hop enigma.
@Themosaicsound
@Themosaicsound 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Elec needs to stand on his own for his first real body of work.
@MultiDwizzle
@MultiDwizzle 4 жыл бұрын
Truth
@sinisterkrex6465
@sinisterkrex6465 4 жыл бұрын
Does he? I mean look at andre 3000. A lot of people call him the goat but he doesn't have a solo album.
@tronskee32
@tronskee32 4 жыл бұрын
Lear YourGamingGod yeah but at least 3K is in an actual duo and always has been. It’s not the same as like piggy backing.
@Themosaicsound
@Themosaicsound 4 жыл бұрын
@@tronskee32 facts
@kable1982
@kable1982 4 жыл бұрын
Most definitely i agree
@josephballard3641
@josephballard3641 4 жыл бұрын
I need some more shiney suit theory tho!
@jeremiahwoodsi7545
@jeremiahwoodsi7545 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Elect brings the best out of Jay-Z.
@zeon_cipher5799
@zeon_cipher5799 4 жыл бұрын
he actually did
@billwilliamsii2659
@billwilliamsii2659 4 жыл бұрын
How so the album is trash
@coolb8545
@coolb8545 4 жыл бұрын
Yeh..indeed agreed
@Ichsukatanuka
@Ichsukatanuka 4 жыл бұрын
Jay ElecYamaka.
@ziggy_san5460
@ziggy_san5460 4 жыл бұрын
Now I can't wait to hear the pod tomorrow...
@plamedimatenda10
@plamedimatenda10 4 жыл бұрын
Joe just sounds salty that he wasn't given the same opportunity as jay electronica when it comes to music connection and the luxury of time
@folkscrazyouthere3076
@folkscrazyouthere3076 4 жыл бұрын
Nahhh that's a reach keep it in context please.
@NickKingXXVI
@NickKingXXVI 4 жыл бұрын
How is he wrong though? He and other rappers like Lupe who he mentioned HAD to put out music and they were judged on it. Jay elec is the only one who can not put an album out in 12 years and still somehow be relevant and somehow get Jay z on his first album. That's a cheat code and an asterisk.
@SaintKines
@SaintKines 4 жыл бұрын
He should be, hes 10 times the MC.
@Nahnahnah2002
@Nahnahnah2002 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo Its not watch the throne without KANYE WEST. Kanye is on the throne
@BackseatJuice
@BackseatJuice 4 жыл бұрын
You probably asian.
@Nahnahnah2002
@Nahnahnah2002 4 жыл бұрын
BackseatJuice I am :)
@bigben228
@bigben228 4 жыл бұрын
Why they keep acting like Jay only has 1 song? He has a whole mixtape out
@mkirkpatri02
@mkirkpatri02 4 жыл бұрын
And eternal sunshine a shot ton of features and incredible singles like better intune 🙏🙏🙏
@abergs-dp2ob
@abergs-dp2ob 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeFromWiscohe's prob got like 70 songs tbh. besides the many great feature verses he's amassed over the years, a lot of his own songs are half baked/incomplete but nevertheless fire. i would recommend checking out the mixtapes 'Victory' and 'What The Fuck Is A Jay Electronica?'
@c-quintessential3648
@c-quintessential3648 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeFromWisco listen to Road to Perdition, Dear Moleskine, Jazzmatazz and Shiny Suit Theory. Production wise they're among the best.
@seandafny
@seandafny 4 жыл бұрын
abergs1125 i kno he has more than exhibits a b and c but theres no way Jay has more than 30 songs out
@bryeep
@bryeep 4 жыл бұрын
Jay elecs feats on mac miller and chances albums showcase he deserves to be wherever he decides to want to be lol imo esp after eternal sunshine and exhibit C
@powerborn95
@powerborn95 4 жыл бұрын
What a great example with that Mic Geronimo. Dynamite first album. Dynamite
@CN3Music
@CN3Music 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂 Yall were 💯 on point withh this prediction ✊🏿
@Unique4007
@Unique4007 4 жыл бұрын
"SMACKED AROUND on your own album" bought me here 😂😂
@mr.enigma4475
@mr.enigma4475 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if illmatic was a feature album with Rakim? smh As much as I respect Jay Elect, he's removing any belief I have that he's a competent artist.
@jasonjones3694
@jasonjones3694 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with all of this
@infer426
@infer426 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Enigma he’s a good rapper not a good artist that’s given but who cares it’s gonna be good music
@icpgraphics
@icpgraphics 4 жыл бұрын
That's the point, he isn't trying to. Jay elects bringing substance and the game lacks that...And now add a woke JayZ verse or two...Let us enjoy
@mr.enigma4475
@mr.enigma4475 4 жыл бұрын
Let me drive this point home. Whether the project is good music or not, it still doesn't quite put to rest the argument that he has released a VALID album. illmatic would not have the same impact it has today without the ''no famous guest appearances'' acclaim. It makes it a legit solo effort. Jay-Z is just a cheat code at this point, and although I believe Jay Electronica is a GREAT rapper, he really is showing himself to be an inept artist
@icpgraphics
@icpgraphics 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.enigma4475 Mr. Enigma I can respect your opinion. I still think its doesn't matter in bigger scheme. You mentioned one of the greatest hip hop albums if not the best. You can not hold Jay Elect to that standard...that albums was the perfect storm, Nas could never come close to that. It's a different time bro. The game is terrible with non talented characters. I thinks its gonna be harder on Jay Elect to have to go bar for bar with the GOAT. He was better off, dropping a solo. Keep in mind, we are talking about someone, who isnt moved by being a rapper and playing that game, 8nstead he fail back and decided to drop music on his terms.
@thewheelchairone
@thewheelchairone 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Electronica has LOADS of songs.
@cbenji07
@cbenji07 4 жыл бұрын
Probably so
@thewheelchairone
@thewheelchairone 4 жыл бұрын
cbenji07 I know so. What the fuck is Jay Electronica, Style Wars EP and many others, The Science of Everything - all have amazing tracks on them
@TheSomnambule
@TheSomnambule 4 жыл бұрын
I have over 150 songs and features of his... People are so ignorant. Many artists who have put out albums this entire time dont have that many songs on record
@ashtreylil1
@ashtreylil1 4 жыл бұрын
I meannnn.... Technically it's not watch the throne. Jay is on a lot of tracks so let's see if Joe is gonna kill Jay elec for a written testimony. Keep that energy Joe, also last pod energy was fire.
@jasonsaldana2359
@jasonsaldana2359 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison with Lupe Fiasco
@elp3035
@elp3035 4 жыл бұрын
Rory said Nas?!?! Does he forget "It Was Written" was considered a sophomore slump artistically at the time? He went platinum every time after that. Bodied Hov. Stillmatic, Life I'd Good, Lost Tapes. Come on homie! Super Bad example.
@BryanKalloo
@BryanKalloo 4 жыл бұрын
Rory's DMX example is on point. I've been saying that. Like what if BIG and Pac kept going and the rest of their catalog sucked
@dloftan5539
@dloftan5539 4 жыл бұрын
Bryan Asto Pac catalog continued and majority of his music is consistently good so you can’t really mention him and he has more than just one or two good albums
@HiImBeans
@HiImBeans 4 жыл бұрын
@@dloftan5539 Meh. PAC was mediocre at best.
@dloftan5539
@dloftan5539 4 жыл бұрын
Tyisen Saunders your mom mediocre
@BryanKalloo
@BryanKalloo 4 жыл бұрын
@@dloftan5539 ok I'll give you PAC. But BIG we wouldn't know
@dloftan5539
@dloftan5539 4 жыл бұрын
Bryan Asto I agree BiG has two great albums but we don’t know how consistent he would have really been I think he’d be in Jay spot but that’s me
@genesisobscura7165
@genesisobscura7165 4 жыл бұрын
Dimethyltryptamine
@amanidoo
@amanidoo 4 жыл бұрын
Make a man dream.
@genesisobscura7165
@genesisobscura7165 4 жыл бұрын
@@amanidoo 💡
@gonk4793
@gonk4793 4 жыл бұрын
I spy with my little eye a JRE follower
@Santana_Art
@Santana_Art 4 жыл бұрын
Kade Kennedy nah he’s referencing a Jay Electronica song.
@unseen32808
@unseen32808 4 жыл бұрын
Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
@Vicious77724
@Vicious77724 4 жыл бұрын
I’m just saying the production In that album will be insane
@Vicious77724
@Vicious77724 4 жыл бұрын
JERZEE DEEP TV fr
@asiagobosire9574
@asiagobosire9574 4 жыл бұрын
It's what he said on those songs that has made him stand the test of time. Not soo many of his peers or current rappers have that elite ability.
@BIGGZONDECK
@BIGGZONDECK 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely understand what Joe Budden is saying!
@blackricktheruler
@blackricktheruler 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Electronica isn’t the average rapper,he shouldn’t be judged on his moves because he’s the only rapper to ever move the way he is.What rapper has has people waiting 10+ years for a album?And if his debut is a joint album with Hov then he just pulled off 95% of rappers dream collab on his first go.He’s just different.
@DeathDefeated
@DeathDefeated 4 жыл бұрын
I understand Joe's point but Jay has so many records where he shuns the status of being a "rapper" which is why imho he's been afforded so much time. For example: Eternal Sunshine - "When you walk like this & try to talk like this the radio stations will never put a nigga on..." Rap is honestly what he does, not who he is. Also, a rise to fame (& dating a Rothschild) from being homeless is rare the way he paints his story, so I honestly think Jay Electronica actually practices black magic. He always refers to it in his rhymes & being from Louisiana it's not a far-fetched.
@amexemoor443
@amexemoor443 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who listened to Jay Elect mixtape stuff? It holds up to many artist official albums to this day!!!! “He is the one to bring balance to the force”
@vernonwilliamsjr.3721
@vernonwilliamsjr.3721 4 жыл бұрын
I think this was a special project, and an introduction to whats to come. They compliment each other styles and genius, they seem to be on the same plane, and both have a most high mutual respect for each other.
@dreal500
@dreal500 4 жыл бұрын
💯% agree with what Joe is saying.
@bpj7092
@bpj7092 4 жыл бұрын
No throne should ever be mentioned without having Ye’s name attached to it. I know this is a rumor, but if was the other way around ex: Ye and ____ .... no Jay, he would get killed
@thenero9493
@thenero9493 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all gotta realize he did more than exhibit c. Eternal Sunshine, Better in Tune with the Infinite, Jazzmattazz, We Made It, My World, The Gjost if Christopher Wallis are all incredible songs and some arguably at the same level as Exhibit C
@GeronFletcher
@GeronFletcher 4 жыл бұрын
Joe budden with the hyperbole “Jay Electronica raps one song” lol you know that ain’t true at all lol
@GarnetBurke
@GarnetBurke 4 жыл бұрын
DMX is a legend those first two albums, Jesus. Glad he got acknowledged here.
@donaldmorrison2496
@donaldmorrison2496 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Electronica- Victory (Mixtape) 🙏🏿
@prettyteeth
@prettyteeth 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Buddens about to destroy Elec all podcast.
@tinimane28
@tinimane28 4 жыл бұрын
Well lmao your move Joe
@thomasbenjamin12
@thomasbenjamin12 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Electronica is a spiritual counselor to people in the industry. And they take of him for it. Jay Z wont even do a collab with Memphis Bleek, but he is connected to Electronica through Electronicas spiritual guidance. Thats why Jay elec is so taken care of and doesn't have to do music. Even Erykah said that he is her spiritual leader...thats how he got to have a baby with her out of no where...he was homeless when he hooked up with Badu. Dude is special.
@JusRed23
@JusRed23 4 жыл бұрын
What throne would Jay Electronica sit on lol? The "Retired Mentor Rapper Drops More Albums Than I Do" Throne?
@dloftan5539
@dloftan5539 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Joe on this one it’s perfectly justified, if Jay Electronica come out with a collaboration album after a decade without one solo album deserve no credit in my opinion
@seandafny
@seandafny 4 жыл бұрын
Joe gon change his opinion when Jay start rapping that quetzecoatl aztec dogon ancient kemet mathematic shit thru a entire album.
@mr.enigma4475
@mr.enigma4475 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS. Imagine if illmatic co-starred Rakim. Nas just wouldn't have the same respect as an MC
@infer426
@infer426 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Enigma Raekwon did it and we loved it
@mr.enigma4475
@mr.enigma4475 4 жыл бұрын
@@infer426 While this is true, take under consideration that we never knew Raekwon to be a solo artist prior. And although Ghostface was the highlighted co-star, he was just one of the numerous features.
@infer426
@infer426 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Enigma he was on every track and wu tang was on reported hiatus it’s the same shit u just giving an excuse. Why do we need to respect jay as a rapper when he doesn’t seem to be interested in such and we should take his music at face value
@zWelshyxX
@zWelshyxX 4 жыл бұрын
Mal is a Rockefeller/Jay-Z plant.
@SamsClub427
@SamsClub427 4 жыл бұрын
BETS COD he’s a sports agent for Roc Nation.
@LouieV6
@LouieV6 4 жыл бұрын
He’s an industry plant, period.
@Vmh1717
@Vmh1717 4 жыл бұрын
Lolololo
@willpower3317
@willpower3317 4 жыл бұрын
His brother is Biggs
@WowShooting
@WowShooting 4 жыл бұрын
they called it.
@FrancoisDressler
@FrancoisDressler 4 жыл бұрын
On paper, this seems like it could be the Guns N Roses' Chinese Democracy of Hip Hop. But I trust Jay Elec to deliver.
@Kratos-bf2jg
@Kratos-bf2jg 4 жыл бұрын
I understand that reference lol
@TheBryans005
@TheBryans005 4 жыл бұрын
He wasnt lying 😅😅😅.. Budden 💯
@ouncesthebasssnatcher5255
@ouncesthebasssnatcher5255 4 жыл бұрын
I would rather hear a Jay Elect and Nas album! Their conscious rap schemes would go together better.
@Rich_iam
@Rich_iam 4 жыл бұрын
Nas is tired.
@sounddealer1421
@sounddealer1421 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rich_iam Nas doesn't have great beat selection. I've never heard of a rapper that couldn't pick a good kanye beat (referring to NASIR)
@jermaineyoung3193
@jermaineyoung3193 4 жыл бұрын
@@sounddealer1421 Life Is Good and Lost Tape 2 kills this argument that Nas can't pick good beats it's old and tiring. As far Nasir album Kanye gave Nas alright beats, the album was rushed and not flushed out.
@sounddealer1421
@sounddealer1421 4 жыл бұрын
@@jermaineyoung3193 it may be old and tiring but its fact. Let me ask you this: do you actually go back and listen to those albums? and if you don't, do you think its a writing/performance issue or production? If you do listen to it great, but you're in the minority on that.
@mikee3261
@mikee3261 4 жыл бұрын
Cocaine Papi Beats I bet your beats trash
@parkerhammer6054
@parkerhammer6054 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Electra is beyond the rap game
@TheReggaecy
@TheReggaecy 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with Joe. If Jay Electronica doesn't get the f outta here with this cheat code
@DC-xp4bl
@DC-xp4bl 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Electronica is at Roc Nation ghostwriting for Jay Z.
@majorboi500
@majorboi500 4 жыл бұрын
Kris Kross lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's funny yo !
@kaineshigaraki5253
@kaineshigaraki5253 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Elec can do whatever he wants. He's never been a "traditional artist" ( +)
@TheRealJoeKewl
@TheRealJoeKewl 4 жыл бұрын
Joe in his ✌🏾iWasnt afforded that luxury✌🏾 bag on this take!!! 🤣😂✊🏾
@graywolf2107
@graywolf2107 4 жыл бұрын
Joe that album hard B. LOL
@onelove8445
@onelove8445 4 жыл бұрын
Joe is Right! 😂 Can't wait until the next show
@MB-mw6mv
@MB-mw6mv 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Electronica doesn't owe us anything. if you choose to compare him against other rappers that's your own problem.
@kaineshigaraki5253
@kaineshigaraki5253 4 жыл бұрын
I love that Joe gave Lupe Fiasco props. (+)
@willpower3317
@willpower3317 4 жыл бұрын
Every time Parks speaks ..nevermind lol
@TheSomnambule
@TheSomnambule 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Budden, shuffle and press play on my playlist of over 150 Jay Electronica songs and features and whatever plays first is better than your entire discography - guaranteed.
@williedynamite9369
@williedynamite9369 4 жыл бұрын
Mic Geronimo 2nd album was dope too
@parkerhammer6054
@parkerhammer6054 4 жыл бұрын
Your right Joe, it’s not normal. Jay Electra is not normal. He’s a legend even outside of hip hop.. on a deep spiritual level. He’s beyond the “rap game”
@blackbrucewayneaj
@blackbrucewayneaj 4 жыл бұрын
iconic.
@iamkingmarlo
@iamkingmarlo 4 жыл бұрын
Well Joe now that we've heard the album I can't wait to hear your opinion, I was waiting for a Jay Electronica album. The album is good but I need a solo Jay Electronica album. I don't want a 3 stacks album with cee lo, it'll be good but I need a full 3 stacks album. It's a bit disappointing it not being just him with a few features.
@ddelsur2694
@ddelsur2694 Жыл бұрын
Why do you feel you need a full Andre album?
@yalredyno4726
@yalredyno4726 4 жыл бұрын
What everyone fails to realize is that...... Jay elec first album was M.C.H.G.
@hollywoodstray5787
@hollywoodstray5787 4 жыл бұрын
Explain
@yalredyno4726
@yalredyno4726 4 жыл бұрын
Hollywood Stray let me start by saying that I’m a huge hov fan. I just think his whole style changed when he signed jay elec. I feel like he at least helped.
@HangmanHorror
@HangmanHorror 4 жыл бұрын
Kris Kross is nothing to joke about, their 3rd album in '96 was fucking HARD
@aphilly2158
@aphilly2158 4 жыл бұрын
Give me a nasty nas and Jay z album just don't let nasty pick the beats
@ohlilrodney
@ohlilrodney 4 жыл бұрын
People have remember. Ghost was high jacking all Rae beats Only Builtz for Cubans is a powerhouse classic & that album isn’t same without Ghost. All albums are collaborations don’t let that make you go into it
@axeffect2293
@axeffect2293 4 жыл бұрын
came back here 3 weeks later after hearing Jay Electronica's album Rory and Mal don't have a clue on what is going on in the music industry! Joe Buddens is spot on here!!
@ondray29
@ondray29 4 жыл бұрын
I love Exhibit C....but Joe on point with his argument.
@nnis75
@nnis75 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this after the album dropped😂😂😂
@GhostD0G8
@GhostD0G8 4 жыл бұрын
ik it sounds weird but Jay electronicas exhibit a and c better than a lot of rappers whole discography
@Santana_Art
@Santana_Art 4 жыл бұрын
I really don’t give a shit how he drops new music as long as it’s good.
@Djbiginf
@Djbiginf 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Electronica always trolling us. Joe making some good points.
@reamonmapp4475
@reamonmapp4475 4 жыл бұрын
We haven't had Andre 3000 solo rap album but niggas claim he top 5
@yohannes1663
@yohannes1663 4 жыл бұрын
There is no watch the throne without ye there is no watch the throne without jay z
@parkerhammer6054
@parkerhammer6054 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all trippin jay Electra got like 100 songs
@UnicornBountyHunters
@UnicornBountyHunters 4 жыл бұрын
rory made great great points,and lupe is the goat lyrically period,also jay elect is def a mystical beast
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