Square Buys Tidal from Jay Z for $297 Million | The Joe Budden Podcast

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[@grinchoi1]

Mal’s reasoning is baffling. Dude is 40 yet still views the world as a 15 year old.

[@rellysunshine9665]

That's because he's never jumped off the porch.

[@jonlosius7939]

What you see is a man child.

[@anduin1]

It really is wild listening to him talk about things because you realize how immature he is in his thinking. He was around some of the most successful people but somehow didn’t learn anything along the way.

[@damian999x7]

@@jonlosius7939 💯

[@macxavier168]

Care to elaborate? I'm not disagreeing, I'm just curious in what instance you're actually talking about.

[@tedgramz1905]

Mal critiquing ppl online for doing exactly what he does when he doesn’t agree with something is f boi shhh

[@ineedya123]

He loves Jayz so much. I don't think he realizes how deep his bias goes.

[@fatherbewithme]

Tsssss wrd

[@662chillin]

@@ineedya123 Like Joe, he doesnt wanna mess up his 1-2 times a year brunch/times when Jay actually acknowledges their existence giving them a reason to live lol

[@soniagonzalez2549]

This show is sponsored by cashapp, Cashapp is owned by square. I don't expect a honest opinion

[@raheemharris26]

This need to be said more

[@MelMelx365]

Fair point

[@mckickz665]

Fair enough

[@vincenttooles1415]

Fiz-acts lol

[@CaneBigMad9]

Lol

[@RaBBy1875x]

Akademiks is the only person in media who isn’t scared to say it... Jay-Z has consistently done the ‘black-owned bait and switch’ and his power means it consistently goes unchallenged.

[@CaneBigMad9]

Jay : you see this problem ☝️I need you to make that go away.

[@pandabear1576]

Bait and switch lol? He owned the shit for half a decade. The black artists who made up the board are still the 2nd largest group of co-owners.

[@gandalftheghetto1172]

Facts

[@trillj8636]

@@pandabear1576 - you just said it the second ! Homie had control he was number one and then he gave it away you really think the number two or the board have any say?

[@pandabear1576]

@@trillj8636 depending on the split of course they do. Any majority owner can be voted out bro. Do you know how boards work lmao?

[@43VirginiaSlim]

Jay been told you he was a business , man . Don’t let the dreads fool you .

[@CaneBigMad9]

I'm about a dollar what the fuck is 50 Cent

[@Ichsukatanuka]

And unlike Hammer 50 mill cant hurt him

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

The Mike Jordan of rap. Outside J working. Now watch how quickly I drop 50.

[@PierceTheThird]

All that shit literally is a front lmao that nigga don’t give af about black owned nothing

[@heffechico]

Tidal is a failed company

[@ttl53va48]

Y’all be so scared to say anything about Jay z 😂😂😂

[@donyeez]

Straight up smh.

[@cybertutorials5609]

He might make one call to KZbin and get this podcast shut down 😭😭

[@Opiumloner]

@@cybertutorials5609 yoooo😭

[@daysoffleadtooffdays1814]

You should, they don’t talk shit about Elon they don’t talk shit about Jeff bezos who got hundreds of billions we get somebody with 1 billion and shred every move he makes

[@colliscrews3727]

Correction, "yall be so scared to say anything negative about Jay Z" lol

[@whayes8084]

“First Daft Punk breaks up and everyday I wake up” underrated joke from Rory.

[@masavoy0228]

What's that mean

[@whayes8084]

@@masavoy0228 It’s a Jay Z bar from the song Heart of the City

[@whayes8084]

But Jay Z says first the Fat Boys break up. He basically flipped it to make it fit a recent current event.

[@masavoy0228]

@@whayes8084 thanks

[@khartoumlavage4253]

That shit is classic. Omg. How apropos and witty, Rorschach Taylor?!!!?

[@Omilloadams]

This nigga Jay Z built tidal up just so he can flip it for more than it’s worth and still a own a portion of his company...a real Hustler(genius) 💯

[@lavelle3000]

Nothing about this sale was genius and it was a fire sale at best tidal was struggling

[@crimsondragon18]

@@lavelle3000 😂💯

[@theman9048]

@@lavelle3000 he bought it for 56 million and sold a portion of it for 256 million. It was an incredible deal.

[@Benjamin-hp8mw]

He lost money lol don’t let the media fool you Jay z’s whole thing is built on being on successful black entrepreneur

[@theman9048]

@@Benjamin-hp8mw how? Where are you getting this info from?

[@dlmoney11]

Didn't joe kill charlemagne for doing the same thing with his podcast network

[@SuperSouthchick]

Jay z is different, he is there daddy.

[@Imichaelperry]

Is Charlemagnes podcast publicy traded?

[@dlmoney11]

@@Imichaelperry I said network. Read nigga

[@grinchoi1]

Facts. Killed him for giving up ownership, even though Charlamagne has 51% stake in the company.

[@Imichaelperry]

@@dlmoney11 its still not publicly traded inside of this deal 1. Tidal pays 4 times what any other streaming platform does 2. Because its publicly traded you cant criticize it the same way because its not the same as trading an idea of a network its a tangible entity thats like comparing Joe's network to Apple

[@ruvilakazi4237]

So Mal doesn't know how big ADIDAS is, it's also telling that he doesn't understand what Kanye owning Yeezy means.

[@MrHoJo]

Thought I was the only one ❗❗

[@PhillyDjHook]

Nobody in America wears Adidas. And nobody outside of of NY and NJ wears Yeezy's.

[@notorious408sj5]

@@PhillyDjHook lol u r a clown

[@-Anonymous-.]

@@PhillyDjHook you’re living under a rock. Everyone has always worn Adidas. & West Coast is hypebeast central... everyone there wears Yeezys.

[@brandon1942]

@@PhillyDjHook ur wrong

[@eliminator173]

"If somebody woulda told em that Hov would sell Tidal, not in this lifetime wasnt in my right mind,thats another difference between me and them, i smarten up open the market up"

[@CaneBigMad9]

1 million 2 million 3 million 4

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

🤣🤣🤣 how you you flipping Hov's bars on him like that

[@Old_World_Tartaria]

@@CaneBigMad9 in just 6 months 297 million more/ now add that number up with the one I said before/ you are now looking at one smart black boy/

[@CaneBigMad9]

@@TheAlkebulanTrust lol it worked for him When the Remy's in the system

[@weeklyissues4424]

True to this day

[@Psych86_]

Mal is biased. Nobody will call Jay-Z out on it but he did preach that black empowerment stuff then sold it to a white guy

[@Rich_iam]

Was there a black buyer who was bidding for Tidal? That's a dumb argument unless there was

[@devondivine1083]

Fuck that. I seen a pic of the staff once it was launched.... ALL WHITE PPL. Jay been lost his shine once ppl learned he only had a 1% share in tha nets. And that NFL b.s. and his homegirl bein a bonafide snitch, I'm a day one, but I'm cool on Jay

[@cmartin1005]

@@devondivine1083 💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@Psych86_]

@@Rich_iam Keeping something black owned isn't a dumb argument. He claimed that's what he was interested in. He didn't have to sell it he has money, he could have kept it

[@justinhearst]

@@devondivine1083 you realized that the company that became Tidal was a company he bought that already existed in Sweeden. It makes sense that when it first started, there's all white people. They could've hired more black people in the years since. And now that square owns it, they may hire more.

[@user-qd6im2hp2e]

The 10 year Gap partnership with Yeezy is still on. The CEO came out last week and said they’re still working together.

[@jd5188]

Rory saying ‘cryptic currency’ for the last few weeks kills me 🤣

[@alipia561]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kombe971]

This is about Crypto. Square just got into the game. They will probably use the NFT with the major artists on Tidal

[@coolreg6395]

These guys are afraid of losing their pod cast! Jay is full of it

[@a_bb_a6356]

Kanye isn’t on the Board of Adidas because he’s way too reckless with his utterances.

[@ptpanashe9]

True

[@medhii5873]

If I make u 10 billions, me being reckless is the Last thing u should worry bout

[@coreybrown6739]

@@medhii5873 Right!!! As long as them checks clear they don't care how he act.

[@dmc1571]

Adidas would not be shit without kanye dude frfr

[@masavoy0228]

Adidas: *biggest shoe company in the world* Mal: "Kanye saved Adidas! Nobody was wearing Adidas." Joe, Rory, and Parks: 😕😕😕

[@karlsylvain]

mal is an idiot! he thinks adidas are just yeezys and the shoe game is calculated with basketball player deals!! ever heard of europe? ever heard of soccer shoes? walking shoes?foh

[@masavoy0228]

@@karlsylvain 😂😂😂 rs

[@brandon1942]

@@karlsylvain Nike is still bigger though and it wasn't close it's still not

[@masavoy0228]

@@brandon1942 I stand corrected, but mal made it seem like adidas was Fila

[@FSamuels20]

He didn’t know Messi was an adidas athlete. Mal has to relax

[@rickyrunks510]

Jay z talked that black ish. Anytime he wants us to come flockin he plays the black card. Really he spends most of his time talking down to us and hanging around white guys.

[@mrdavidashley6892]

This is dumb. Your comprehension skills are awful, if that's what you get out of it. I bet you didn't/don't even have Tidal.

[@christopherayettey4390]

You'll only see it being talked down to if you're a looser that doesn't make progressive moves

[@darrowolykos8468]

@@mrdavidashley6892 when you hurt a stans feelings lol.truth hurts.sad part is you wasted a comment to say you dont agree with literally nothing but your hurt feelings to back it up

[@tuanx]

This man has given millions to serve his people. From bailing out protestors, to helping manage black athletes so they don’t go broke like the athletes he grew up watching, to hiring lawyers for 21 Savage, to Tidal donating 1.5m to BLM, to setting up trusts for Sean Bells family, to posting bail for fathers so they could go home to their families for Fathers Day to helping to have a case against a 6th grader dismissed. That’s just the top of the iceberg. Folk like you don’t understand how chess works & only love to criticize when it helps fit the narrative you want to paint. GTFOH He still has minority ownership in Tidal like the other artists. Now he has more money to leverage into other ventures. You people don’t understand how investing works. Was he supposed to ride Tidal to the ground until it became worthless because our people didn’t subscribe; yet would complain if he sold it? You lack critical thinking & business acumen. It was a dying service. A service that will likely still die under Jack Dorseys ownership. Out of that dying service he got $300M’s & a seat at the table of an ever growing company in Square. He won. Now he can take that money & find other ways to reinvest & continue building the culture through black ownership. But you just don’t get it do you?

[@marqicewalker1766]

@@tuanx Just because people give doesn’t mean people care. I don’t think people understand why some give especially when people like you eat up the image portion of it. There’s currently an athlete who’s been exposed for hating his own skin and saying if his unborn baby is dark skin he wouldn’t want him and that’s ugly. PR is a field of work for a reason.

[@leokizzo3515]

Why does Mal act like he’s done anything except be on Joe’s podcast and be Biggs Burke’s brother?

[@ash7324]

fax

[@Freshness0009]

Mal is literally the only one on the pod without a side hustle... he better start rollin dice and slanging rock forreal 😂

[@alksdlkasdaklfklasfkasjkld8985]

Mal has no knowledge or expertise on anything lol

[@jonlosius7939]

@@alksdlkasdaklfklasfkasjkld8985 He knows how to cop the hottest Js with just two phone calls.

[@soda8736]

@@Freshness0009 His side hustle is hanging with Griselda and Julius Randel

[@marckristian81]

Shout out to the first time listeners, the last time listeners and the G's that couldn't pick a jam to start the dutch with so they decided to see what the click's talking bout.

[@JayR-io5uz]

Joe u better keep that same “Ownership” energy , I ain’t even watch yet but I’m just saying

[@Nico-sm4gs]

He folded, any Jay conversation comes up he folds

[@JayR-io5uz]

@@Nico-sm4gs Awh man 🤡 😭

[@dlmoney11]

He didn't keep the energy unfortunately. But I think we all knew this would be the case

[@justmy5984]

Naw they compromised

[@BIG_A.B.]

Yea joe on that sucka shit...

[@jtrix34]

I will never understand how we believe that rich people are for the people even after they consistently do stuff to show otherwise. Not saying Jay Z hasn't done some good stuff but let's not forget that he will always be business first.....that's the problem. But maybe I'm the asshole for commenting on this shit in the first place.

[@gregmanfe3627]

And you right 💯. It’s business first

[@anduin1]

It’s just what’s put out there at the most. I’m sure there are people living around you who are coming up but because they’re not famous you don’t hear about the moves they’re making. Celebrity worship in general is some weird shit but Jay’s tactic has been using the plight of black America as an advantage in the deals he makes. He’s not the only one though

[@dawb86]

Like the man himself said "you was who you was before you got here" and "I ain't a rapper, I'm a hustler who knows how to rap." He's NEVER going to be culture first, it's not in his makeup, unless there's a profit in it. You know, like suddenly becoming a "conscious" rapper at damn near 50.....

[@coreybrown6739]

Right!! Jay has ZERO obligation to the Black community or anyone else with the exception of his family. He's done a lot for our people and of course that is never enough, but anywho I digress.

[@nvm7191]

@@dawb86 exactly lol When 444 came out Nas should’ve asked him “what you tryna kick knowledge?” 😆

[@whatsowhatnot]

How tf does Mal work for Rock Nation but not know jack shit about Jay Z.

[@daris7909]

Do you know everything about the CEO that you work for at your job if you work

[@whatsowhatnot]

@@daris7909 I also don't discuss my CEO every week on a podcast.

[@Jus-Tin]

@@whatsowhatnot GOT EM

[@SouthBayLA1310]

@@daris7909 He got you there lol

[@Quis1989]

Rory said he knows Hov talked to all of them before selling. Did Hov talk to Dame before selling his portion of Roc-a-fella? Didn't he just leave Dame? Lol.

[@vintagelauren625]

Um yes he actually spoke to him lol watch beef 4 dame says it him self

[@hakshustletv]

He actually did, Bigg, Dame & Jay all said they discussed & agreed on selling both rocafella and rocawear

[@Strawberryfearsforever]

@@hakshustletv But Jay kept the name “Rocafella” and he made that deal behind their backs.

[@hakshustletv]

@@Strawberryfearsforever Not true at all, go and listen to what Biggs said, after Jay went to Def Jam as a CEO, they agreed to sell off the rest of rocafella and go into their own business ventures.

[@dpowell468]

@@hakshustletv they just want to hate jay it's the cool thing to do. I bet u ain't even change her mind or made her research. Hating others is real easy

[@lorenzoburton3974]

This hurts to say...but our level of conversation is rudimentary compared to other cultures. We are emotional people and it holds YOU back.

[@dekexz19]

I agree that the range of conversation holds the JBP and other groups back, but to say that is a thing specifically in our culture is reductive for Black people. Definitely an individual issue

[@CaneBigMad9]

Truth

[@MalikRhasaan]

You people say anything

[@iamking_nell]

Nah the folks on here conversation is rudimentary.

[@CaneBigMad9]

@@iamking_nell "on here conversation"? Or In this conversation?

[@randymcduffie4122]

Love these clips because most of the time my listening time gets cut short due to kids house or anything I be needing these lol

[@j.ogummybear2981]

Geeze I feel that lol

[@TheReelRapNerd]

Facts bro lol being home more, this definitely happens.

[@anduin1]

I just can’t wait to hear the spin about how this was done to help Black people in America.

[@keezus624]

He has enough accolades bro where he has helped the “culture”

[@mexicandeicide1459]

@@keezus624 what you mean? He showed niggas how to package the product hahaha

[@waynealfred3858]

It HELPED WHOM EVER INVESTED IN TIDAL ESPECIALLY SOME ARTISTS

[@keezus624]

@@mexicandeicide1459 honestly it’s more than what most of us did anyway judging others for their achievements when we have none speaks volumes for your character . Hope one day you, I and whoever reading will be in the position can make the same packages where everyone will admire to make someday lol

[@mexicandeicide1459]

@@keezus624 you a sheep.

[@ttl53va48]

You know they can’t say anything bad about the BOSS Jay z but if it was another artist they’ll be ripping them apart 😂😂

[@markbrito21]

What’s so bad about making money? The ones not making any would find something wrong with it 😂 😆 😝

[@sergioramos3437]

I wish I had enough time to listen to all the full episodes like before but I'm grateful you guys make these clips so I can still catch parts of it

[@dabobthorton6169]

MAL is completely wrong from the jump. The people that are mad at Jay for selling tidal, saying it's for us are completely justified. Jay-Z has always marketed "building the culture" and "black ownership" so much that he got most black artists on the ship that was markets to be us "for the culture and artists" But then he sells the ships he stocked to the "white man" wouldn't any other time we would call this a culture vulture.

[@christopherayettey4390]

He still owns it though... So what's ya problem lol

[@BL-ic4xs]

You’re wrong Because you don’t know the bigger play

[@tuanx]

Says the person who probably doesn’t have a Tidal subscription. And he still has minority ownership in Tidal like the other artists. Now he has more money to leverage into other ventures. You people don’t understand how investing works. Was he supposed to ride Tidal to the ground until it became worthless because our people didn’t subscribe yet would complain if he sold it? You lack critical thinking & business acumen. It was a dying service. A service that will likely still die under Jack Dorseys ownership. Out of that dying service he got $300M’s & a seat at the table of an ever growing company in Square. He won. Now he can take that money & find other ways to reinvest & continue building the culture through black ownership. But you just don’t get it do you?

[@dabobthorton6169]

@@tuanx you see how you have to guess about me to try to invalidate my point like a female? You acting like a female. Are your a female? You must be a female...

[@poudijr692]

Mal shoulda added “in America” when he was talking about Kanye saving adidas. Adidas is HUGE worldwide, As someone who isn’t from America I can guarantee you that.

[@GodBody-BodyofGod]

If it’s not popping in America, does it matter?

[@Barney-ii1no]

@@GodBody-BodyofGod The arrogance of you americans

[@RandyJ85]

U.K. > US

[@Gino565]

@@GodBody-BodyofGod it does because the United States isn’t the only country in the world.

[@GodBody-BodyofGod]

@@RandyJ85 USA>UK and it’s been that way for a very long time

[@emperfectfamily7690]

Joe hate this deal u can see it when he talking to mall at the beginning joe would sell them for 70. Million right now and the crib if Spotify offered it to him 😂😂😂😂

[@karlsylvain]

joe wanted that deal for the pod lol!

[@emperfectfamily7690]

😂😂

[@rod8706]

Jay had to buy back 33% from sprint before selling 66% to Jack for $297m. So how much did he pay to repurchase the shares from sprint. These guys never have their facts ready just blind praise although I think Jay still profited off the deal.

[@DBoYAcExX]

Of course he did.

[@rellysunshine9665]

Exactly. Where are the REAL numbers.

[@wallstreetvazy151]

his initial invesment in tidal was 56million. he`ll be alright. now go listen to whats free & plot on a billion

[@shynepo6296]

No one knows the percentage he owned

[@Benjamin-hp8mw]

@WorldFlex I doubt he even broke even tbh

[@kailismith]

Joe had a very different energy for charlamange...

[@tronskee32]

@Gina Thompson it’s really not lmao

[@erickinsey7268]

Jov is a boss . Charlemagne is skilled labor , fronting like a boss . apple and oranges .

[@grindface100]

@@erickinsey7268 dagod came at him

[@AntyeStudios]

Would be different if Cthagod had a board seat at iHeart or sum like that..

[@jcalrissian]

I can name a few reasons why a company wouldn’t want Kanye on their board of directors 😂

[@sharonmoten5406]

My applauds to HOV!! Keep making those business moves!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@brooklyngyaljohnson1439]

And we bykkkeee! Heyy JBP Fam!!! Have a great week! ♥️🙏🏾

[@pettymurphy2243]

Same to you 💪🏾

[@koolking_4k]

I knew they was gon dance around this shit😂😂😂

[@Chopin93]

Smh y'all being safe af. Call this shit for what it is.

[@colliscrews3727]

I want to see someone on this podcast who disagrees with their takes on Jay-Z's business dealings.

[@rellysunshine9665]

Don't hold your breath. I really think Jay Z pays for this blind loyalty. The JBP, the Breakfast Club, Wayno lol

[@BiznessBoog]

I really thought Joe was onto something when he said he appreciates the so called “trolls” calling Jay out but he went no where with it.

[@colliscrews3727]

@@rellysunshine9665 lol their payment is invites to the RocNation brunches and collaborations. I mean I get it, Hov is a great connection to have in the all that the music industry encompasses, but come on, just for the sake of argument, we need some balance.

[@colliscrews3727]

@@BiznessBoog 🤣🤣 I was hoping Joe would take it there too, but nope...smh.

[@662chillin]

Joe might die if he misses out on Jay-Z acknowledging his existence 1-2 times a year

[@Pharmacists2Key]

And Joe was trying to sell one show to Spotify for $200M.

[@eruptsales5807]

Love the analysis🙌🏽

[@HighiamDave]

This seems to be where the beef started or a least the beginning of the breaking point.

[@christianwilliams7861]

Love the podcast but they are too compromised to give an honest opinion about Jay

[@pierrecheetham9872]

Where's the lies though? 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@MisterMoreno10457]

Im just mad i didnt invest when i should. Ima call a spade a spade. (no pun intended) Jay aint for the culture no more, now he just selling shit. Hes a hustler for real. Im sick of giving my dollars to these rappers.

[@pandabear1576]

No more? Hov has always bought or created shit with the goal of selling shit. They always intended to sell Rocafella among his other ventures lol

[@CaneBigMad9]

The fact that people are still buying music I'm still moving like it's 2008 and blank CDs are the shit. I got all jays music never spent a buck What the fuck.

[@jasonjohnson7213]

Hes not for the culture because he's a smart business man? lol And you wonder why the wealth gap is as prominent and wide as it is.

[@CaneBigMad9]

@@jasonjohnson7213 Facts At this point what type of culture are supporting? One moment people what u lock up for false accusation (t.i.) Next minute they want to ask for pardons.

[@ItsCasterGreen]

I'm subscribed to Tidal(have been for a grip now) and i'm on Tidal as an artist. This needed to happen, I can't get no royalties out of HOV so, thank you for selling.

[@nvme9335]

Tidals the highest paying dsp fuck You talking bout

[@yaboi-ru4532]

Mal is clowning others for advocating for ownership as entrepreneurs while being an employee working for an entrepreneur.... I spoke prematurely when Joe initially supported the non-sheep but he later folded like everyone else who can't see anything wrong with Jay...

[@lewjones3]

It's a good deal for Jay, but what about having the ownerships for the black people?..

[@CaneBigMad9]

Huh 🙄

[@ihateflatbunz]

For Jay that's all you need to know that's how its always been.

[@danieljenkins7951]

@ I've had Todal for years. I prefer it to Spotify and Apple. But seen small changes immediately since deal not sure what I'm going to do

[@Theshortshowpodcast]

"It's parks" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@TheFilmAdelphia]

lmao

[@arejays6701]

🤣🤞

[@bmathesh]

I wouldn't be shocked if Jack Dorsey and Jayz together buy an NFL team

[@SmokinAcesProd]

The same people that are yelling about Hov selling Tidal to the “white man” are avid Apple Music and Spotify users......

[@rellysunshine9665]

Yeah but Spotify and Apple don't preach Black ownership lol

[@6thbr871]

@@rellysunshine9665 how y’all mad about the selling of a app you ain’t support in the first place 😂😂😂

[@rellysunshine9665]

@@6thbr871 Why can't we be upset that Jay is a selfish hypocrite?

[@kingdavid5932]

What about the ones that were riding with Jay.. they can say something

[@wallstreetvazy151]

@smokingaces FACTS!. whats even worse ,watch they support it now that master bought it. hov realize our community aint ready for change like we claim online!

[@eruptsales5807]

“I don’t even look at $300 million in this at all” most important line by Rory

[@christopherayettey4390]

What does that mean

[@joemoneymondays]

And why exactly is that?

[@karlsylvain]

@@christopherayettey4390 nothing. rory thinks jay is a bilionaire already because he made a deal with a real bilionnaire jack dorsey. relax rory

[@Scorpion-dn8ju]

@@karlsylvain he is a billionaire his net worth is 1.4 billion to be exact he's a real billionaire

[@Mrderful]

It's really simple. Ye isn't on the board because he can't be controlled.

[@hakshustletv]

Because he doesn't think and can't control his outbursts or doesn't know how to handle his his feelings appropriately. Jay will feel some type of way and get the same results if not better without looking like a fool or damaging his rep

[@JWandoe]

Agreed with Joe. There’s dislike amongst every aspect of life you can think of and I feel it motivates more people than making them second guess their decisions. The balance is important

[@quadirmayfield]

Joe hat game be on point every pod lol

[@oliviakennedy9997]

People make waaay to many comments about what a person should do with money they ain’t EVER touched...watch the move. Learn what to do. And apply it to add value to yourself...sheesh...too many teachers that ain’t never left the bleachers 🙄

[@anduin1]

So what’s the lesson here? Use your name to hype your product out, have equity in it and then sell it off to a larger corporation looking to get (in this case) into the streaming space relatively cheaply. So it’s just flipping a brick with some extra sauce.

[@Zilla12]

I have Tidal and I don't like this. I got Tidal because it was black owned and black invested. I like Jack, seems like a cool cat, but I don't like this, not his space. And Mal wild for dismissing commentary as "trolls"

[@spikespiegel323]

But it’s not surprising Mal is a simple Simon ass dude. He doesn’t actually know anything about anything facts or not his takes are routinely terrible.

[@KingBerry23]

that 297 can turn to a B in the marijuana industry, which he’s in. game set match

[@EXPERIPRINTS2024]

At 11:05 Joe starts starring into space! Virgos do this when they don't want to say what should be said! I do it all the time!😂😂 Either way, I would love to hear what Joe really feels!

[@bbegonebtw51680]

Jay Z in business for himself not for black people and lets not forget

[@RWarrior777]

Did you watch the karceno Video? Its interesting

[@mykingdom252]

Are y’all really surprised that Jay-Z sold Tidal?

[@KnowsysDaSleuth]

Y'all believe anything.

[@mykingdom252]

@@KnowsysDaSleuth Explain?

[@CaneBigMad9]

@@ianwest1624 before you know it? it's been 5 years

[@josephkanu2778]

@@ianwest1624 black people didn’t really support tidal so why are we complaining because he sold it? The company was probably struggling financially,maybe he was funding it with his own money we just don’t know exactly why he sold the company Nobody I know owns tidal including myself so I can never blame him for selling his company when I didn’t support it. If we supported tidal the company could have been bigger and could have been able to at least compete with Spotify and apple

[@darrowolykos8468]

@@josephkanu2778 what numbers do you have to backup whether black people supported tidal or not?or is that just what you think?

[@KyngKy502]

Great content

[@kingll690]

Joe shitted on charlamagne for giving 50% of the black effect network to iHeart but now they’re praising Hov for doing the exact same thing. I really hate how biased and phony these guys get when it’s certain topics. I’ll rather they just not talk about it then not keep the same energy

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Did Charlemagne sell 50% and receive millions?

[@kingll690]

@@ArtisanWindchimes Literally yes.

[@Del_116]

He sold half a controlling shares .. these things happen in business all the time . He still on all the boards still get a share of profits and someone else does all the hard work ..:

[@elijaharvinger8711]

But he loses control and power in the process. Ownership is power and power is more valuable than money. Being on a board means you get a vote but depending on how many shares you own you have no say in what gets voted on. In most cases it's better to own than to rent. Being on a board means you're a renter, you're in the building but can't remodel without permission from the owner.

[@Del_116]

@@elijaharvinger8711 bill gates , warren buffet ...,, they all do the same shit . It’s just regular business .

[@raheemharris26]

@@Del_116 Bill gates and warren buffett still own controlling share in their companies. It may be a low percentage share, like 20% if it's a publicly traded company, but that 20 % is still the majority share. Jay z sold his majority share in his failing company.

[@tye1939]

@@raheemharris26Why would any smart business man want majority controlling interests in a failing company? Y'all speak of selling businesses as if it's bad. Any savvy CEO always has exit strategy for his company so whether it's a success or failure - he can still make a return on his investment. Many of the biggest business titans have all sold off and bought companies repeatedly, including black men like Reginald Lewis who specialized in leveraged buyouts using very little of his own capital to own companies. Sadly, ignorant black people who don't know shit about business would've demonized men like him today even though every other ethnic group exercises the same business practices to increase their wealth...Buy-Hold Position - Sell - Repeat.

[@raheemharris26]

@@tye1939 It failed because jay z was pretentious and arrogant when he started the company. Also, don't black guilt trip people into your product, especially if your product is less innovative and cost more than your competition.

[@thaneros]

I can't be the only gamer who thought Square Enix when reading the title.

[@alec123456789capps]

1000% I was so confused

[@RenStampede]

I fasho did, lmao

[@mont-doggBeats]

Ultraboost is what kept adidas relevant and attracted Kanye to bring his talents to adidas. Kayne is the reason why adidas is relevant in the hip hop community .

[@heyousrew6458]

20:02 LML random and wild. That’s Crazy

[@godofthisshit]

Rent aint debt but cool if people use their good history to improve their fico.

[@JonSnowsGhost]

Jay bought back the shares he sold to sprint before he sold Tidal to Jack Dorsey. So JB is off on his assessment.

[@pierrecheetham9872]

💯

[@ddelsur2694]

Mal, Adidas HAS BEEN RELEVANT & STILL IS RELEVANT around the world! It's looked at as a luxury brand in some countries for crying out loud. He's really got to stfu

[@samlovexo]

I haven’t heard about tidal in yearssss lol

[@honorable5730]

Master P is really the only black owned guy🤷🏾‍♂️IFYKWIM

[@patrickmartin2689]

What no J Prince...😑😑😑✌✌✌

[@ricandro1354]

It’s a good deal for jay z but it’s bad for the artists that become shares holders

[@theflyent7106]

All the artists got 8.9 million a piece... Carry on!!!

[@decepticonk2908]

Hov saw M’s and was like shiiiiiiid 😂

[@mansdem9463]

Everyone on the podcast: “Hovengerrrrs!!!!!” Comments: “oh my gosh wow I can’t believe they are so biased”

[@solodz7477]

Thought Mal was doing a Vlad interview

[@Hizzoner21]

I can't un-see it now lol

[@KingBeastBDE]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Jelaniwaters]

Your not trolling if its true MAL

[@mpjdu2425]

Mal looks like a proud dad on the thumbnail

[@joka5345]

Should of took that Spotify money. Haha hahah

[@travishaywood1477]

AS A BLACK MAN WHO HAS A UPCOMING BUSINESS MYSELF I DONT BELIEVE BLACK INDIVIDUALS SHOULD SELL THEIR COMPANY TO ......WELL U KNOW THEMMMM🤣🤣🤣 U DONT SEE APPLE ....TELSA...SONY BEING FOR SALE

[@CapnDGAF]

As another black man Please stop. Everything is for sale under the sun. You need capital, and you dont got it. But maybe, just maybe, Hov does.

[@lukecimino40]

I understand what you are saying but to compare those 2 companies to Tidal is well......not really accurate or fair tbh

[@Gino565]

I don’t understand. I’m black. And I just don’t understand why so many black people seem to have an issue with white people. It’s just weird segregation.

[@menacemini4894]

They are for sale everyday on the stock market lol

[@natejones8539]

Nobody gets hated on more than a wealthy black man. Economic power is freedom.

[@MrAfriKa]

How about the black man that says something is for black excellence then sells it to white people.

[@CaneBigMad9]

@@MrAfriKa everybody else gets away with it. Nike got away with it for years your point

[@darrowolykos8468]

This is only if you ignore context.jayz has made a bunch of business decisions that he claims are for the people when in reality they are for him.if he wants to make these decisions he should stop hiding behind this stance

[@natejones8539]

@@MrAfriKa It’s not just Jay Z, it’s Obama, Jordan, Lebron, Robert Smith etc... All these wealthy black men are consistently hated on. It’s a crab in barrel mentality that too black people have. You can’t be a rich and only do business with black people. Billionaires control the world so we need as many black billionaires as possible.

[@natejones8539]

@@kikijackson9646 Poor black folks aren’t hated on because they don’t have anything anybody wants. When they gain any kind of wealth that’s when the haters start targeting them.

[@662chillin]

Jay-Z is about Jay-Z uplift not black upliftment as a whole But it's not surprising seeing people stan for him with the "since he made we all made it"/"why you hating on a black man doing well" excuses People fail to skim over how he did his OWN people with the Brooklyn Nets deal only to find out he he barely got a free parking spot with the amount of ownership stake he had

[@blackreactz]

They don’t don’t sell there franchises to us. Period

[@ArchangelsBeats]

so y'all just gonna skip Jay's oakie doke especially when Joe is always preaching "black ownership"? Got it...

[@MrNigeriaboy]

All these artists selling up their assets and shit. Lawsuits coming hard on alllllll these celebs this yr watch.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Y'all said that last year

[@CaneBigMad9]

And the year before that

[@gregmanfe3627]

They all got a payout of about 8.6 Millions each. So I don’t think they will cry 😂

[@coughdrop435]

Everybody saying that Jay made a good move. Jack made a good move he now owns the One of the biggest Social media Apps, Money apps and now Music apps.

[@TheAlphawolf6]

I was thinking cash app is trash compared to venmo but then I realized the cash app logo in the bottom left corner and realized why they hypin it 😂

[@KingTv312]

Jay using us as equity.. he start a company we support “black own” he then sell it but he don’t support everybody shit lik we do his . Never seen him in yeezys lol

[@jonlosius7939]

If you’re going to support “black owned”, support your local businesses. Not some fucking celebrity. Come on, bro...

[@KingTv312]

@@jonlosius7939 I do sir lol

[@johnnyblingg]

Do you have a subscription to Tidal?

[@anduin1]

100%, I respect the hell out of his business moves but it always has that added message of “helping black people” when it’s only he and his who are profiting.

[@KingTv312]

@@johnnyblingg I used to .. deleted it last month

[@myob94]

Damn tidal worth half a patty Mahomes deal 😂😂😂 that’s insane.

[@masavoy0228]

Patty gotta play 10 years to live down that deal

[@soda8736]

Patty Mahomes deal aint guaranteed . Dak got more gaurnteed money

[@ADWillio2]

When searching for board members I'm not looking for someone who makes a trend hot. Board members have to govern the growth, management and revenue with a set of short, mid and long term goals. Kanye hasn't shown he is capable of that skill set.

[@MichaelCobbs]

This is a great video.

[@savinay4812]

2 billi is coming real soon. Hov is a giant!

[@kalpha4364]

Kanye is richer 🙃

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@kalpha4364 people dont really care that Kanye's a billionaire because he not from the hood

[@kalpha4364]

@@ArtisanWindchimes Kanye lived a double life, his mom in the suburbs and his pops was in the trenches of south side Chicago as a black Panther. He lived in both worlds growing up.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@kalpha4364 dont matter where he lived, he's not considered a "hood nigga" the way Jay-Z is who was selling crack rocks and living "that life"

[@InMahdWeTrust]

@@ArtisanWindchimes you must ain listen to “Drive Slow” Ye from the hood might not have sold crack but he black & was livin where they were clappin at

[@communityvibes]

Man! Reading these comments are hilarious 🤣.... as history shows entertainment is a wide net. You can say anything for shock value but actions speak volumes. The fact that we should believe a celebrity would lead us to a valley of truth is actually even more hilarious. I don’t want poor or poverty leadership. But I damn sure don’t want fame to rule a poverty struck community. It’s to easy to pimp! Y’all thinking is way off. If a man been about the bag, why we ever gonna think he gives a shit about the consumer outside the money YOU generate for him. Stop idolizing these idiots. I see jay as a hostile takeover businessman- foh with this venture capital shit. His hostile relationship is YOU just like the rest of them. Ya he sounds good on wax and sells you an idea manages to fix it like it’s culture based then sells you to the house. It’s casino. It ain’t just race baiting, it’s mob ties Sam rostien type shit. He think he running shit but he runs the look. But I would lie if I think I’d do anything different. Every race on the planet do it. The difference is blacks don’t have institutional opinions- meaning more able to buy with his complexion. People merge every day. The reason it’s so hard to take from us is.... u ready? 1.We look cool doing it while being hated for looking cool doing it. And 2. He (jigga man) needs to look cooler being the guy who can push the button making it appear like his perception is the influence over the culture. In other words he still selling crack. It’s a wholesale bust down. He hangs with puff for god sake. 😂 this why I love 50 cent no mogul shit and he goes at all these weirdos necks. ((((Still)))) with that said when’s the next jay album coming out 😆 😆 😂

[@hakshustletv]

Jay's playing private equity lol I'm just waiting to see what his end goal is. He must be going for a huge purchase/acquisition which is why he's stacking his chips like crazy.

[@hakshustletv]

@WorldFlex I know how valuations work lol you're right most of the people reading forget that's gross and not net. My point is the way he's unloading from his portfolio, when we see this it's typically because someone either sees the market taking a turn to where it will damage those investments beyond what will be recoverable or they've got their eyes on something bigger. He's on the board of square, he's also looking to get into the insurance and loan space, he's invested in tech as well, he's definitely trying to make a move to more than double up his net worth very quickly off of paper value alone which will give him crazy leverage & access to resources going into future deals.

[@hakshustletv]

@WorldFlex Lol the purchase he made, made sense, he added value to it and sold it for more than he paid for it by far probably including things like operational costs considering it was a profitable business. In terms of his business history we've seen him make great investment after great investment, of course it's not on the level of a Buffett but that's because they're making 10-11 figure acquisitions. In terms of net worth, it has been determined that Jay is a billionaire. That doesn't mean he has a billion liquid, it means if you take all his assets minus his liabiliities and you were the liquidate everything it would equate to 1B or more. When anyone else does what someone like Jay does it's a great business move because of the entry and exit point but when he makes the move "it was bleeding him dry" you can never win with everyone

[@firstname2022]

Y’all thought they wasn’t gone slurp the Malcolm X of our generation? 🤣

[@communityvibes]

“Every body knows jay ain’t shit... he always goes for the bag- Dame dash. He Brooklyn businessman. Y’all keep giving him passes. This is why I “roc” wid 50 cent. Jay a cool punk 4 real.

[@Bigquonn]

Facts

[@raymondmcclure1360]

Hov💪🏾💪🏾💯💯💯💯

[@anttoz4989]

why would you sell title when the whole point he opened it was for artist freedom now he just hold it to another company that can control

[@thabolefleur9655]

the people who said selling part of your company is bad business was y'all though